New here

March 1, 2007

Also, we often recommend that you detox your system before becoming

pregnant. In Denver, the Naturopathic Doctor who helped me detox was

Todd , N.D.

Lynda

At 01:28 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:

>Oh - I have such hope. I am just beaming. Thank you.

>

>Even if I can't get pregnant, I will be happy to start getting my

>health back.

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > >straight

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > >button). My

> > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me is

> > >that

> > > > >my

> > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

>stories

> > > > > > related

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Lynda,

Does he have a website. Is there a file on exactly what " detoxing "

means?

I will do whatever it takes to get my health back. I do not want to

lose my house, job and especially not my husband.

Thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

months

> > > >straight

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > >button). My

> > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

me is

> > > >that

> > > > > >my

> > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> >stories

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Try his website: http://www.nrnetsolutions.net/

Lynda

> > At 01:28 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:

> >

> > >Oh - I have such hope. I am just beaming. Thank you.

> > >

> > >Even if I can't get pregnant, I will be happy to start getting my

> > >health back.

> > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

>months

> > > > >straight

> > > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > > >button). My

> > > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

>me is

> > > > >that

> > > > > > >my

> > > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> > >stories

> > > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

>life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

We have a lot of detoxing programs in our archives too . . . Some of them cost next to nothing. . . Epsom Salt baths Clay baths Fasting Lifer Flushes Ionic foot baths (if you want to see my photos, let me know) FAR infrared sauna The Maker's Diet - Rubin The Yeast Connection Fresh, crushed, raw garlic Oil of Oegano, Olive Leaf extract Calcium/Magneisum/Vitamin D Insititol coffee enemas drinking at least 1/2 ounce of water per pound of body weight daily Strict avoidance of sugar and refined grain (especially sugar) Avoiding as many chemical products as possible .. . cleaning, cosmetic, foods, etc. No microwaving Sea Salt insead of table salt Coconut oil Massage Stree and anger

management Yoga Rebounder Moderate exercise Kefir (and other probiotis) Take note of any products you are using that may contain silicone or silicone dioxide. . . If you feel worse after using them, you may be hypersensitive to silieone . . .If so, avoid these products. The list goes on and on . . . Truthfully NOBODY can tell you exactly why you are getting sick from your implants. Not the doctor's and not us! There are a number of possiblities that will vary by the individual. . . Implants contaminated on insertion . . .valve failure - leading to contaminated implants . . . deteriorating implants - allowing material to pass between body and implant . . . allergy to materials . .. rupture - allowing implant materials to spill into your body . . . silicone hypersensitivity . . . Implant material leaching -

like ionized platinum (very potent neurotoxin). It may be thta your body is just worn out trying to get rid of a foregin object. Each of us has to take responsibility for figuring out what works, or doesn't . . . I'd suggest keeping journal of what you do and how you feel. We don't seem to get better steadily . .. Symptoms wax and wane.. . When you are detoxing, you may experience a temporary worsening of symptoms. . .Not to worry. This is normal . .. but you have to know when it's herx, or when you're actually sick. . . You''ll start figuring it out soon. This group is wonderufl about helping with questions on all of this stuff. . . If you have any questions, someone will be happy to share their experience with you. Hugs, Rogene

March 1, 2007

We need a name for you! You appear to be moving though this really fast! . . .That's wonderful! It's often hard to get through the denial stage and ready to consider explant! . . . Please don't get overwhelmed with all this . . It's one step at a time. If you try to do too many things at once, it will be very difficult .. . Pick the things you feel comfortable doing . .. note if they help . ..and try new things when you're ready. Hugs and prayers, Rogene spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Wow! Thanks Rogene & Patty! I have spent oodles of money on trying to get pregnant! Nothing!! I am sure God has a plan. I need to get these out now ASAP! I suspected they were making me feel horrible over a year ago, but my husband has been a nay sayer... Recently my health has been declining and I just feel horrible. We want a baby so bad but at the same time I was thinking to myself - how could I care for a baby with my health? I have so many joint problems, aches/pains, memory loss, brain fog... you name it. I would be a horrible mother right now. I sure hope Dr. Huang has a cancellation soon - hopefully it is some young, unknowing girl who is seeking implants. Thanks again. > > > > >

>> > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months > straight> > > > now.> > > > > Had> > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly > button). My> > > > docs> > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me is > that> > >my> > > > ANA> > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and stories> > > > related> > > > > to> > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!> > > > > > >> > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.> > > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

March 1, 2007

Sorry about that, you can call me Lynn.

I know it seems that I am moving fast but I have been thinking about

getting them removed for a while now.

My arthritic pain started in my hip a little over a year ago. It

gets worse and worse every month/day. I have also had reoccuring

sinus infections (I take an antibiotic and within a week of being off

the RX it is back again).

I am oh so tired, fatigued. I used to be full of energy! Now it is

a chore to get me to want to leave the house.

The most recent bout of doctors visits were the kicker for me to

start researching they WHYs??? I couldn't bend my big toe. I

thought it could be Gout (ha ha, I am a 34 y.o. female who rarely

drinks). The labs came back showing an elevated ANA profile (this

was in December 06).

The doctor thought I had RA. They took more blood, froze it and sent

it to Mayo. Came back that it was being caused by a medication I am

on for my endometriosis (or so the doctors who are in denial about

the breast implants say). I did get a shot of Lupron in October to

help my endometriosis.

Seems I have a million things going on - I know. But during this

entire mess of doctors and a gamet of tests (MRI, ultrasounds, EKGs,

a bizillion labs) I have thought all along it could be my breasts!

I old my OB/GYN that I thought it was my breasts and he had some

excuse that there is no proof, etc. etc. etc. I did mention it to my

primary doctor and she did tell me that even though there isn't

concrete proof that she would recommend I get them taken out (it

wouldn't hurt the cause).

So here I am - doing research again because I am damn and determined

to find out why I went from an active, fun, hard working woman to a

shell of who I used to be. Thus, I found Beth's story. It lead me to

this support board.

PS... About 3 months ago I did google to find a story I had seen on

cosmetic surgeries called " True Life " on MTV. I e-mailed the girl

who got so sick but never received a response.

But now I am gung ho! It CAN'T be a coincidence!! More than 1/2 of

the symptoms that I am having are listed on this site and others. I

am not going to sit here and do nothing over vanity. I don't want to

die, I don't want to be disabled, I want my health back....

I hope that helps. Sorry I have been in such a rush. I just want to

be healthy. I have developed depression, anxiety and panic attacks

due to all these health issues.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > straight

> > > > > now.

> > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > button). My

> > > > > docs

> > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

is

> > that

> > > >my

> > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

stories

> > > > > related

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

-Lynn, I had a terrible time with endo before having children. I

had my children, but would have to go right back on the pill after

so it would not come back. I am doing great now, don't have any

problems, but I have to stay on the pill. It is soooo painful to go

through that. I moved VERY fast too when I found all this out, had

mine out within one week. It was very obvious for me because I

finally ended up with loss of feeling in one arm and hand and the

burning pain in the implants. But I had a lot of what you describe,

we all did. I am 7 weeks post explant now and still seeking tx for

getting it all out. But a lot of women here have recovered well. I

think I will too, but it is a slow process. Love and hugs Nan

-- In , " spinkscl " <spinkscl@...> wrote:

>

> Sorry about that, you can call me Lynn.

>

> I know it seems that I am moving fast but I have been thinking

about

> getting them removed for a while now.

>

> My arthritic pain started in my hip a little over a year ago. It

> gets worse and worse every month/day. I have also had reoccuring

> sinus infections (I take an antibiotic and within a week of being

off

> the RX it is back again).

>

> I am oh so tired, fatigued. I used to be full of energy! Now it

is

> a chore to get me to want to leave the house.

>

> The most recent bout of doctors visits were the kicker for me to

> start researching they WHYs??? I couldn't bend my big toe. I

> thought it could be Gout (ha ha, I am a 34 y.o. female who rarely

> drinks). The labs came back showing an elevated ANA profile (this

> was in December 06).

>

> The doctor thought I had RA. They took more blood, froze it and

sent

> it to Mayo. Came back that it was being caused by a medication I

am

> on for my endometriosis (or so the doctors who are in denial about

> the breast implants say). I did get a shot of Lupron in October

to

> help my endometriosis.

>

> Seems I have a million things going on - I know. But during this

> entire mess of doctors and a gamet of tests (MRI, ultrasounds,

EKGs,

> a bizillion labs) I have thought all along it could be my

breasts!

>

> I old my OB/GYN that I thought it was my breasts and he had some

> excuse that there is no proof, etc. etc. etc. I did mention it to

my

> primary doctor and she did tell me that even though there isn't

> concrete proof that she would recommend I get them taken out (it

> wouldn't hurt the cause).

>

> So here I am - doing research again because I am damn and

determined

> to find out why I went from an active, fun, hard working woman to

a

> shell of who I used to be. Thus, I found Beth's story. It lead me

to

> this support board.

>

> PS... About 3 months ago I did google to find a story I had seen

on

> cosmetic surgeries called " True Life " on MTV. I e-mailed the girl

> who got so sick but never received a response.

>

> But now I am gung ho! It CAN'T be a coincidence!! More than 1/2

of

> the symptoms that I am having are listed on this site and others.

I

> am not going to sit here and do nothing over vanity. I don't want

to

> die, I don't want to be disabled, I want my health back....

>

> I hope that helps. Sorry I have been in such a rush. I just want

to

> be healthy. I have developed depression, anxiety and panic

attacks

> due to all these health issues.

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

months

> > > straight

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > button). My

> > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

me

> is

> > > that

> > > > >my

> > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> stories

> > > > > > related

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

I really wish I could move as quickly but the PS can't even see me

for a consult until the end of next month

I have been asked to be put on a waiting list and I will call several

times a week to see if there have been cancellations.

I am glad to hear that you were able to gave children with the endo.

Best of luck to you on a steady recovery. My consult & explant can't

come soon enough.

Take care of yourself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

> months

> > > > straight

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > > button). My

> > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

> me

> > is

> > > > that

> > > > > >my

> > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> > stories

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

I also had all your symptoms... Had mine removed and I was correct.... Follow your gut, get them removed by a skilled explant surgeon. You are for sure in the right place.

God Bless

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March 1, 2007

-I had 3 miscarriages while implanted, and after I got sick I had 0

testosterone I was told I was perimenopause at age 35, I haven't had

a period for 3 months now I am 44 They say now I am in full

menopause, I question the whole thing. Seems young to me I think it

is all hormone related.

Terri P

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> A lot of women have reported problems getting pregnant, and with

miscarrying while implanted.

>

> I'd suggest that you take some time to detox after having your

implants removed before trying for a child. . .

>

> I started a group for the families of affected children. . Some

of the problems are horrendous!

>

> Support Group SiliconeKids.

>

> One of the things they are supposed to track with the " new "

cohesive gel implants is reports of women having difficulty getting

pregnant, miscarrying, and birth defects.

>

> By the time they figure out what's going on, it's going to be too

late for many.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

> spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote:

> Will do. Thanks again.

>

> One question, I have been reading through the files and posts but

> haven't found an answer yet... do you think my implants could be a

> reason why I am not getting pregnant? My husband and I have been

> trying for over 4 years now. I ovulate just fine, my tubes are

> clear. I do have endometriosis but nothing obstructing.

>

> Just a thought? Hoping somebody has an insight.

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> straight

> > > > now.

> > > > > Had

> > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> button). My

> > > > docs

> > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me is

> that

> > >my

> > > > ANA

> > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and stories

> > > > related

> > > > > to

> > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Hi Terri,

I had a Lupron shot in October but that was to wear off in January.

Still no period. Prior to this I have had three surgeries to remove

the endometriosis. Each time they say my tubes are clear, my

husband's sperm is fine and I ovulate every month (I have one of

those $200+ electronic kits). We have even underwent interuterine

inseminations 3 times w/ no baby... I have had my implants for

almost 8 years now. I just wonder if that could be the reason?

Lynn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > straight

> > > > > now.

> > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > button). My

> > > > > docs

> > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

is

> > that

> > > >my

> > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

stories

> > > > > related

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Lynn, We can't prove it, but the odds are that your implants play a role in infertility. Hopefully you'll be able to conceive a very healthy baby in a year or so. One of our members put herself on the fast track to get healthy so she could have a child before the clock ran out . . . She followed watched her diet religiously and detoxed thoroughly. She had a very healthy baby a couple years after her explant . . . I'm sure she'd be happy to talk to you . . . jewels75@... . If I remember right, she saw Dr. Mercola. Rogene spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Hi Terri,I had a Lupron shot in October but that was to wear off in January. Still no period. Prior to this I have had three surgeries to remove the endometriosis. Each time they say my tubes are clear, my husband's sperm is fine and I ovulate every month (I have one of those $200+ electronic kits). We have even underwent interuterine inseminations 3 times w/ no baby... I have had my implants for almost 8 years now. I just wonder if that could be the reason? Lynn> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months > > straight> > > > > now.> > > > > > Had> >

> > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly > > button). My> > > > > docs> > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me is > > that> > > >my> > > > > ANA> > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and stories> > > > > related> > > > > > to> > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >

> >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

March 1, 2007

Terri~

I am so sorry for you heartbreaks.

I am 30 and about the age and menopause thing it varys I know cause

5 years ago I started to get premenopausal symptoms.(according to my

gyn)

And I would have clumped it in with the implant problems BUT!!!!!

My Grandmother started to go through this in her late 20s and my mom

now 52 has been going through meno. since she was about 32.

Is menopause set on early in your Family??

What about the women before you?

Like mom ,sisters, aunts and Grandmas??

I hope this is not upseting you, what I say.

Cause that does not mean a baby is not in your future for there has

been many miracles of women going through it and still conciving a

child.Actually have heard stories of women who believed because they

were going through MENo. they could not get pregnant so in turn had

unprotected sex and ended up with a bundle of joy when they were not

ready for it.

So keep heart and faith believing Gods will in your life.

Also the detox thing is huge for any one!!Ecspecially for some one

with implants or just out of explant.MAY God bless you ,JEN

-

-- In , " Peake "

<peaketeresa@...> wrote:

>

> -I had 3 miscarriages while implanted, and after I got sick I had

0

> testosterone I was told I was perimenopause at age 35, I haven't

had

> a period for 3 months now I am 44 They say now I am in full

> menopause, I question the whole thing. Seems young to me I think

it

> is all hormone related.

> Terri P

>

> -- In , Rogene S <saxony01@> wrote:

> >

> > A lot of women have reported problems getting pregnant, and with

> miscarrying while implanted.

> >

> > I'd suggest that you take some time to detox after having your

> implants removed before trying for a child. . .

> >

> > I started a group for the families of affected children. .

Some

> of the problems are horrendous!

> >

> > Support Group SiliconeKids.

> >

> > One of the things they are supposed to track with the " new "

> cohesive gel implants is reports of women having difficulty

getting

> pregnant, miscarrying, and birth defects.

> >

> > By the time they figure out what's going on, it's going to be

too

> late for many.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > spinkscl <spinkscl@> wrote:

> > Will do. Thanks again.

> >

> > One question, I have been reading through the files and posts

but

> > haven't found an answer yet... do you think my implants could be

a

> > reason why I am not getting pregnant? My husband and I have been

> > trying for over 4 years now. I ovulate just fine, my tubes are

> > clear. I do have endometriosis but nothing obstructing.

> >

> > Just a thought? Hoping somebody has an insight.

> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > straight

> > > > > now.

> > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > button). My

> > > > > docs

> > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

is

> > that

> > > >my

> > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

stories

> > > > > related

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Terri,

I think the implants definitely affected this for me. I stopped

suddenly....with no real symptons of menopause to speak of. That

was when I was probably 46/47. Then I became very sick very

quickly....from the implants. I am now 51.

I thought it was young too...and I also didn't believe it at the

time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > straight

> > > > > now.

> > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > button). My

> > > > > docs

> > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

is

> > that

> > > >my

> > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

stories

> > > > > related

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Thank you so much. I will contact her.

If nothing else, this will get my husband on board. He wants a baby

so badly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > > straight

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > button). My

> > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

> is

> > > that

> > > > >my

> > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> stories

> > > > > > related

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

--Jen,

I really appreciate your concern, I have two beautiful children 9

year old daughter and 17 year old son, I just had also had

miscarriages in between them, Believe me at 44 and as sick as I am

you couldn't pay me to have any more kids LOL. I was just trying to

give some advice that it does somtimes affect hormones. What ever you

do don't get pregnant and breast feed with implants, Both mine were

and both had problems, luckily they are just sinus related now.

Youare sweet to offer me encouragement.

Terri P

- In , " jensbugaboos " <jensbugaboos@...>

wrote:

>

> Terri~

> I am so sorry for you heartbreaks.

> I am 30 and about the age and menopause thing it varys I know cause

> 5 years ago I started to get premenopausal symptoms.(according to

my

> gyn)

> And I would have clumped it in with the implant problems BUT!!!!!

> My Grandmother started to go through this in her late 20s and my

mom

> now 52 has been going through meno. since she was about 32.

> Is menopause set on early in your Family??

> What about the women before you?

> Like mom ,sisters, aunts and Grandmas??

> I hope this is not upseting you, what I say.

> Cause that does not mean a baby is not in your future for there has

> been many miracles of women going through it and still conciving a

> child.Actually have heard stories of women who believed because

they

> were going through MENo. they could not get pregnant so in turn had

> unprotected sex and ended up with a bundle of joy when they were

not

> ready for it.

> So keep heart and faith believing Gods will in your life.

> Also the detox thing is huge for any one!!Ecspecially for some one

> with implants or just out of explant.MAY God bless you ,JEN

>

> -

> -- In , " Peake "

> <peaketeresa@> wrote:

> >

> > -I had 3 miscarriages while implanted, and after I got sick I had

> 0

> > testosterone I was told I was perimenopause at age 35, I haven't

> had

> > a period for 3 months now I am 44 They say now I am in full

> > menopause, I question the whole thing. Seems young to me I think

> it

> > is all hormone related.

> > Terri P

> >

> > -- In , Rogene S <saxony01@> wrote:

> > >

> > > A lot of women have reported problems getting pregnant, and

with

> > miscarrying while implanted.

> > >

> > > I'd suggest that you take some time to detox after having

your

> > implants removed before trying for a child. . .

> > >

> > > I started a group for the families of affected children. .

> Some

> > of the problems are horrendous!

> > >

> > > Support Group SiliconeKids.

> > >

> > > One of the things they are supposed to track with the " new "

> > cohesive gel implants is reports of women having difficulty

> getting

> > pregnant, miscarrying, and birth defects.

> > >

> > > By the time they figure out what's going on, it's going to be

> too

> > late for many.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > > spinkscl <spinkscl@> wrote:

> > > Will do. Thanks again.

> > >

> > > One question, I have been reading through the files and posts

> but

> > > haven't found an answer yet... do you think my implants could

be

> a

> > > reason why I am not getting pregnant? My husband and I have

been

> > > trying for over 4 years now. I ovulate just fine, my tubes are

> > > clear. I do have endometriosis but nothing obstructing.

> > >

> > > Just a thought? Hoping somebody has an insight.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months

> > > straight

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > button). My

> > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me

> is

> > > that

> > > > >my

> > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> stories

> > > > > > related

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Terri,

I am sorry, I am so lost. Did you mean that the implants can affect

hormones?

Thanks,

Lynn

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

months

> > > > straight

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > > button). My

> > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

me

> > is

> > > > that

> > > > > >my

> > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> > stories

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Wow Terri~

I am a dork...LoL

Sorry i misunderstood i feel like a fool now.But hey whats new?

I am glad that you were blessed with two kids.And now I will get out

of your buisness, please forgive my misunderstanding:o(

Jen

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

months

> > > > straight

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the

belly

> > > > button). My

> > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

me

> > is

> > > > that

> > > > > >my

> > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> > stories

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Lynn, Sometimes they treat sinus infections with antibiotics when they are really fungal infections. Antibiotics works short term, but they kill off the beneficial organisms our body need. . . Then sinus problems come back with a vengeance. See if your doctor will address your sinus problems a fungal and see if you get better. You can put an antifungal cream and swab it as far up your nose as possible. Eating garlic is a winner here too! Rogene -- In , "spinkscl" <spinkscl@...> wrote:>> Sorry about that, you can call me Lynn. > > I know it seems that I am moving fast but I have been thinking about > getting them removed for a while now. > > My arthritic pain started in my hip a little over a year ago. It > gets worse and worse every month/day. I have also had reoccuring > sinus infections (I take an antibiotic and within a week of being off > the RX it is back again). > > I am oh so tired, fatigued. I used to be full of energy! Now it is > a chore to get me to want to leave the house. > > The most recent bout of doctors visits were the kicker for me to > start researching they WHYs??? I couldn't bend my big toe. I

> thought it could be Gout (ha ha, I am a 34 y.o. female who rarely > drinks). The labs came back showing an elevated ANA profile (this > was in December 06). > > The doctor thought I had RA. They took more blood, froze it and sent > it to Mayo. Came back that it was being caused by a medication I am > on for my endometriosis (or so the doctors who are in denial about > the breast implants say). I did get a shot of Lupron in October to > help my endometriosis. > > Seems I have a million things going on - I know. But during this > entire mess of doctors and a gamet of tests (MRI, ultrasounds, EKGs, > a bizillion labs) I have thought all along it could be my breasts! > > I old my OB/GYN that I thought it was my breasts and he had some > excuse that there is no proof, etc. etc. etc. I did mention it to my > primary doctor and she did

tell me that even though there isn't > concrete proof that she would recommend I get them taken out (it > wouldn't hurt the cause). > > So here I am - doing research again because I am damn and determined > to find out why I went from an active, fun, hard working woman to a > shell of who I used to be. Thus, I found Beth's story. It lead me to > this support board. > > PS... About 3 months ago I did google to find a story I had seen on > cosmetic surgeries called "True Life" on MTV. I e-mailed the girl > who got so sick but never received a response. > > But now I am gung ho! It CAN'T be a coincidence!! More than 1/2 of > the symptoms that I am having are listed on this site and others. I > am not going to sit here and do nothing over vanity. I don't want to > die, I don't want to be disabled, I want my health back.... >

> I hope that helps. Sorry I have been in such a rush. I just want to > be healthy. I have developed depression, anxiety and panic attacks > due to all these health issues. > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3 months > > > straight> > > > > > now.> > > > > > > Had> > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly > > > button). My> > > > > > docs> > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell me > is > > > that> > > > >my> > > > > > ANA> > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and > stories> > > > > > related> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >what the

implants can cause!!!> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

March 1, 2007

The Mayo Clinic found that the majority of allergies and sinus

problems had a fungal basis. I know my allergies are bad when I have

fungal problems.

Lynda

At 10:26 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:

>Lynn,

>

>Sometimes they treat sinus infections with antibiotics when they are

>really fungal infections. Antibiotics works short term, but they

>kill off the beneficial organisms our body need. . . Then sinus

>problems come back with a vengeance.

>

>See if your doctor will address your sinus problems a fungal and see

>if you get better.

>

>You can put an antifungal cream and swab it as far up your nose as possible.

>

>Eating garlic is a winner here too!

>

>Rogene

>

>-- In

><mailto: %40> ,

> " spinkscl " <spinkscl@...> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry about that, you can call me Lynn.

> >

> > I know it seems that I am moving fast but I have been thinking

>about

> > getting them removed for a while now.

> >

> > My arthritic pain started in my hip a little over a year ago. It

> > gets worse and worse every month/day. I have also had reoccuring

> > sinus infections (I take an antibiotic and within a week of being

>off

> > the RX it is back again).

> >

> > I am oh so tired, fatigued. I used to be full of energy! Now it

>is

> > a chore to get me to want to leave the house.

> >

> > The most recent bout of doctors visits were the kicker for me to

> > start researching they WHYs??? I couldn't bend my big toe. I

> > thought it could be Gout (ha ha, I am a 34 y.o. female who rarely

> > drinks). The labs came back showing an elevated ANA profile (this

> > was in December 06).

> >

> > The doctor thought I had RA. They took more blood, froze it and

>sent

> > it to Mayo. Came back that it was being caused by a medication I

>am

> > on for my endometriosis (or so the doctors who are in denial about

> > the breast implants say). I did get a shot of Lupron in October

>to

> > help my endometriosis.

> >

> > Seems I have a million things going on - I know. But during this

> > entire mess of doctors and a gamet of tests (MRI, ultrasounds,

>EKGs,

> > a bizillion labs) I have thought all along it could be my

>breasts!

> >

> > I old my OB/GYN that I thought it was my breasts and he had some

> > excuse that there is no proof, etc. etc. etc. I did mention it to

>my

> > primary doctor and she did tell me that even though there isn't

> > concrete proof that she would recommend I get them taken out (it

> > wouldn't hurt the cause).

> >

> > So here I am - doing research again because I am damn and

>determined

> > to find out why I went from an active, fun, hard working woman to

>a

> > shell of who I used to be. Thus, I found Beth's story. It lead me

>to

> > this support board.

> >

> > PS... About 3 months ago I did google to find a story I had seen

>on

> > cosmetic surgeries called " True Life " on MTV. I e-mailed the girl

> > who got so sick but never received a response.

> >

> > But now I am gung ho! It CAN'T be a coincidence!! More than 1/2

>of

> > the symptoms that I am having are listed on this site and others.

>I

> > am not going to sit here and do nothing over vanity. I don't want

>to

> > die, I don't want to be disabled, I want my health back....

> >

> > I hope that helps. Sorry I have been in such a rush. I just want

>to

> > be healthy. I have developed depression, anxiety and panic

>attacks

> > due to all these health issues.

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

>months

> > > > straight

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the belly

> > > > button). My

> > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can tell

>me

> > is

> > > > that

> > > > > >my

> > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials and

> > stories

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

Lynn,

It is just my opinion but I think they definitely affected mine, and

I have heard others describe that they do affect womens hormones.

Terri P

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

> months

> > > > > straight

> > > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the

belly

> > > > > button). My

> > > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can

tell

> me

> > > is

> > > > > that

> > > > > > >my

> > > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials

and

> > > stories

> > > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

> life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 1, 2007

-Jen,

You are welcome to ask me any questions you would like, that is why I

am here, I am not shy about any question I can help you with,,

Terri P

-- In , " jensbugaboos "

<jensbugaboos@...> wrote:

>

> Wow Terri~

> I am a dork...LoL

> Sorry i misunderstood i feel like a fool now.But hey whats new?

> I am glad that you were blessed with two kids.And now I will get

out

> of your buisness, please forgive my misunderstanding:o(

> Jen

>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I have been feeling just horrible for about 3

> months

> > > > > straight

> > > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > Had

> > > > > > > > > > >my implants put in 1999 (saline, through the

> belly

> > > > > button). My

> > > > > > > > docs

> > > > > > > > > > >have ran tons of tests and the most they can

tell

> me

> > > is

> > > > > that

> > > > > > >my

> > > > > > > > ANA

> > > > > > > > > > >level in elevated. They ruled out Lupus & RA.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am just devasted after reading testimonials

and

> > > stories

> > > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > >what the implants can cause!!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I am so sad. Feel like I have ruined my entire

> life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 30, 2007

HI and welcome na. Beautiful name, by the way!

It's good to have a name to what ails us, but it's hard sometimes when

others don't know or understand. I know what you mean about always having been

the

primary caretaker and now wanting to have a little consideration given to

YOU. We spoiled them and taught them how to treat us; or basically, what to

expect of us, and what is expected of them. I'm having the same problem (can

you

tell?). My family is slowly coming around. I had to explain things to them,

gently, rationally, and tell them what I needed and/or wanted them to do for

me (I did not assume they knew). And when I am not feeling up to doing

something, I say so (something I never did in the past). I had to get

accustomed to

my house not being PERFECT,...OK, so I'm not there yet. LOL! It still bugs

me sometimes, but I'm getting there.

Don't expect all of them to rush out to the bookstore to buy books on the

subject. None of mine did. They didn't even borrow the ones that I bought,

although one or two (hubby and one daughter) looked things up on the internet.

I

have multiple autoimmune diseases, and they flare or attack in tandem or in

layers. We seldom know which triggers what; I just muddle through. These are

my autoimmunes: MS, SLE (Lupus), 's, Psoriatic Arthritis, and

Psoriasis. I have not been diagnosed with RA (yet). <Grin> But with the way

things

have been going...you just never know!

Carol

In a message dated 4/30/2007 8:38:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

schnauzercloud1@... writes:

Good morning everyone.

I have had RA for probably 15 years but it was not diagnosed until

August of 05. I was tired all of the time, stiff and swollen, in so

much pain, was having problems remembering and no energy at all and

my Dr at the time said " It is depression caused from the stress of

work, your husband's illness, taking care of the house, etc " and he

put me on antidepressants. Needless to say they didn't work, I was

still in so much pain. This went on until 2003, when for some reason,

not related to RA I had a black out at work. I went to the ER and

they did a CT scan to check for a stroke, it came back negative and

they ordered an MRI, the MRI showed lesions on my brain and I was

sent to a neurologist. The neurologist did all of the standard tests

for MS and other neurological disorders, and found that I did have

impaired cognitive function so we did two further tests, a PET Scan

and another lumbar puncture and found I was a carrier of the

Alzheimer's Gene. This still didn't explain any of the other

symptoms, but I had a Doctor that cared. He set me up with a new

Internist, she worked with me and worked with me, ran pulmonary,

cardiac, every test you could imagine including RA, but everything

came back negative, then one day I called her because my fingers on

both hands were so swollen I couldn't bend them, she tested me again

for RA, then did x-rays, sent me to a Rheumatologist and he confirmed

the diagnosis. I was started on MTX and Remicade. Needless to say, I

feel almost a 100% better, but I still have bad days, still tired,

but nothing like in the past. I wish my family understood more. They

look at me like I am crazy when I say I am tired or I have problems

doing some things with my hands, or moving. It really hurts.

Sometimes I would like to just kick them (I know violence is not the

answer). Sometimes I really hate them. I know in the past I have

always done it all, did it for years when I didn't feel like it. Went

nonstop 90% of the time even when I felt I couldn't go on. They still

expect me to do it. My stepkids are the worst. Ages 33, 36, and 39,

but if they stub their toe I am expected to ohh and aww and think it

is the worst thing ever. I am not feeling sorry for myself, but would

just like some consideration. Sorry to ramble on, but needed someone

to vent to that might understand.

I am also praying for a job that will allow me one day off a month so

I can continue my remicade therapy. Finances are tight right now as

we are paying for our health insurance which is very expensive and I

know stress doesn't help RA.

Thanks for listening.

na

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April 30, 2007

I really have empathy for you. 90% of my family reacts the way you describe

yours does to you. I got so bad that i wound up in the hospital for almost

a month. I had to have 2 chest tubes, my hands were so swollen, i couldn't

put on a bra, my wedding ring was cutting off my circulation. The RA was

finally getting back at me for all the times I just kept going on and on

PLUS my husband died unexpectedly that same year before I was hospitalized.

I was quite a " mess " . My family for the most part has no clue what RA,

Fibro, depression amoung other chronic conditions I live with. I am made to

think it is all my fault because I am overweight and don't belong to a gym.

I get soooo frustrated....I pray and journal alot and I have a dog who is my

blessing from God. I only wish people could take lessons from the

unconditional love my little female Jack gives me. I must add she

is an exceptional back warmer. Hang in there na, and if you need to

vent you can always email me directly. I am new to the group, too.

Laurie

On 4/30/07, julrossfra <schnauzercloud1@...>

wrote:

>

> Good morning everyone.

>

> I have had RA for probably 15 years but it was not diagnosed until

> August of 05. I was tired all of the time, stiff and swollen, in so

> much pain, was having problems remembering and no energy at all and

> my Dr at the time said " It is depression caused from the stress of

> work, your husband's illness, taking care of the house, etc " and he

> put me on antidepressants. Needless to say they didn't work, I was

> still in so much pain. This went on until 2003, when for some reason,

> not related to RA I had a black out at work. I went to the ER and

> they did a CT scan to check for a stroke, it came back negative and

> they ordered an MRI, the MRI showed lesions on my brain and I was

> sent to a neurologist. The neurologist did all of the standard tests

> for MS and other neurological disorders, and found that I did have

> impaired cognitive function so we did two further tests, a PET Scan

> and another lumbar puncture and found I was a carrier of the

> Alzheimer's Gene. This still didn't explain any of the other

> symptoms, but I had a Doctor that cared. He set me up with a new

> Internist, she worked with me and worked with me, ran pulmonary,

> cardiac, every test you could imagine including RA, but everything

> came back negative, then one day I called her because my fingers on

> both hands were so swollen I couldn't bend them, she tested me again

> for RA, then did x-rays, sent me to a Rheumatologist and he confirmed

> the diagnosis. I was started on MTX and Remicade. Needless to say, I

> feel almost a 100% better, but I still have bad days, still tired,

> but nothing like in the past. I wish my family understood more. They

> look at me like I am crazy when I say I am tired or I have problems

> doing some things with my hands, or moving. It really hurts.

> Sometimes I would like to just kick them (I know violence is not the

> answer). Sometimes I really hate them. I know in the past I have

> always done it all, did it for years when I didn't feel like it. Went

> nonstop 90% of the time even when I felt I couldn't go on. They still

> expect me to do it. My stepkids are the worst. Ages 33, 36, and 39,

> but if they stub their toe I am expected to ohh and aww and think it

> is the worst thing ever. I am not feeling sorry for myself, but would

> just like some consideration. Sorry to ramble on, but needed someone

> to vent to that might understand.

>

> I am also praying for a job that will allow me one day off a month so

> I can continue my remicade therapy. Finances are tight right now as

> we are paying for our health insurance which is very expensive and I

> know stress doesn't help RA.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> na

>

April 30, 2007

na welcome!! You vent all you want we totally understand where you are

coming from,

since most of us are going through it or gone through it. I am sorry it took

so long for you

to find you dx doctors are suppose to help but I find only a handful understand.

Marsha

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