Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 You are experiencing a quirk in the details of service provision. The mandate in the schools is, essentially, to facilitate students' access to the school system. But that leaves a lot of room for interpretation, and there are obviously two directions to go. First, clinicians, used to the clinical environment, see a clinical problem and envision a therapeutic solution---one that often results in an IEP that mimics an outpatient treatment plan, e.g. therapy 3X/week. The other interpretation (you might call it a school-board interpretation) says that it cannot possibly be a school system's responsibility to ameliorate the medical/developmental problems of each student, but rather to make reasonable attempts to facilitate education given the realities of each student's situation. The two interpretations lead to very different educational planning. In our pediatric school-based services we generally play a consultative role. Whenever possible, aides and teachers are instructed in techniques and programs. This is far from illegal, and certainly not resultant of someone trying to " get away with something. " It merely recognizes that a therapy professional can act in a consultative fashion, and that there are realities in the payment system---that is to say, it would be crazy to saddle a school system with correcting all the myriad issues that students bring to the classroom. Your school system does seem to be overreacting (especially in regard to attendance at IEP meetings), but my guess is that they have long been paying for a clinical, rather than an educational, model of delivery, and the financial lid blew off. Other providers utilizing a clinical model in the schools can expect the same in these days of increasing financial pressures. By the way, in one of the school districts we serve we are working with the Special Ed Director to remake the delivery system, concentrating our efforts on early detection of minor delays (at the kindergarten and first grade levels) through classroom screening, and then incorporating group programs (for the entire classroom) which can eventually be taken over by teachers. The hope is that students will benefit, and in the long run, schools will save intervention dollars. Dave Milano, Director of Rehab Services S+SMH 32-36 Central Ave. Wellsboro, PA 16901 dmilano@... " Nobody ever forgets where he buried a hatchet. " Hubbard as Abe , 1930 School-based therapists I need help from the group concerning legal provision of therapy in schools. Our school therapists in Missouri are just being told by the school administrators that they will no longer be providing much therapy, but will be used primarily on a consultative basis. They are no longer to attend the IEP meetings or staffings to plan for the IEP. The teachers will be doing the therapy goals and also providing the therapy and following the therapists' instructions. According to everything that I have been able to locate in the state Practice Acts for OT, PT and Speech, this is not legal, but the schools seem to think that they can get away with it because the therapy is for " educational purposes " . The students that are receiving the therapy are not mildly involved, but very severe, with serious spasticity and tone issues, among other things. I would appreciate any input that anyone can give me concerning this. Thanks everyone. Diane P. Pickel, OTR/L President Therapy Associates, LLC 11900 W. 87th St. Parkway, Suite 200 Lenexa, KS 66215 fax This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately, destroy/delete all copies of this e-mail & any attachments. Any unauthorized copying/disclosure/distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Diane, This is often a difficult situation. As you know the schools will often try to do the MINIMUM required by IDEA. Many schools that I have worked at or been associated with try to do this until a parent slaps a law suit on them for denying appropriate therapy services. There are often broad interpretations of IDEA. Get to know it and know it well. Also, remember that in the school setting, we are part of a team which is supposed to form IEP goals together and decide whether PT, OT & SLP are educationally necessary for the student. That team, according to IDEA, must make the decisions together. If the school is excluding you from the IEPs or other multi-disciplinary team meetings, you should at least have your PLEP and goals presented for you by the teacher. I worked at a school where the admin. Did not want us wasting our expensive time at the meetings so, they asked us to submit our PLEP and goals to the teacher beforehand and, generally, the teachers were very pro-therapy. This worked out well. In another instance at another school, all therapists were excluded from the meetings and the goal making. That sped director didn't last long (she was gone the next year). As a contracted person, I believe we are responsible for educating the administrators as well as promoting our profession. Just some thoughts and ideas that will hopefully make your life easier. Your problems are shared by many! I hope to see more responses on the listserve. Chad Yoakam, MS, PT Chad W. Yoakam, MS, PT Manager of Rehabilitation Services Livingston HealthCare Orthopedic and Rehabilitation Institute School-based therapists I need help from the group concerning legal provision of therapy in schools. Our school therapists in Missouri are just being told by the school administrators that they will no longer be providing much therapy, but will be used primarily on a consultative basis. They are no longer to attend the IEP meetings or staffings to plan for the IEP. The teachers will be doing the therapy goals and also providing the therapy and following the therapists' instructions. According to everything that I have been able to locate in the state Practice Acts for OT, PT and Speech, this is not legal, but the schools seem to think that they can get away with it because the therapy is for " educational purposes " . The students that are receiving the therapy are not mildly involved, but very severe, with serious spasticity and tone issues, among other things. I would appreciate any input that anyone can give me concerning this. Thanks everyone. Diane P. Pickel, OTR/L President Therapy Associates, LLC 11900 W. 87th St. Parkway, Suite 200 Lenexa, KS 66215 fax This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately, destroy/delete all copies of this e-mail & any attachments. Any unauthorized copying/disclosure/distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Thanks so much for your input. We have gotten great help from others as well. The bottom line, I'm sure, is money. Our therapists are working hard at communicating with the parents at this point. I don't think the parents realize this is happening, and that their severely handicapped students will not be getting therapy from a professional therapist. Hopefully, we can change this. At one school, the administrator is a former SLP, so I know this is not coming from her. School-based therapists I need help from the group concerning legal provision of therapy in schools. Our school therapists in Missouri are just being told by the school administrators that they will no longer be providing much therapy, but will be used primarily on a consultative basis. They are no longer to attend the IEP meetings or staffings to plan for the IEP. The teachers will be doing the therapy goals and also providing the therapy and following the therapists' instructions. According to everything that I have been able to locate in the state Practice Acts for OT, PT and Speech, this is not legal, but the schools seem to think that they can get away with it because the therapy is for " educational purposes " . The students that are receiving the therapy are not mildly involved, but very severe, with serious spasticity and tone issues, among other things. I would appreciate any input that anyone can give me concerning this. Thanks everyone. Diane P. Pickel, OTR/L President Therapy Associates, LLC 11900 W. 87th St. Parkway, Suite 200 Lenexa, KS 66215 fax This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately, destroy/delete all copies of this e-mail & any attachments. Any unauthorized copying/disclosure/distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Diane - here is the Federal Register link to answer part of your question. See Part 300.343 and 300.344 which discuss the IEP Team and who must be a part of it. Related services are not specifically identified as required participants, but the parent always has the option to invite others who may have relevant information to the IEP process. http://www.ed.gov/legislation/FedRegister/finrule/1999-1/031299a.pdf " 300.344 IEP Team (a) General. The public agency shall ensure that the IEP team for each child with a disability includes - (6)At the discretion of the parent or the agency, other individuals who have knowledge or special expertise regarding the child, including related services personnel as appropriate.... " There is also no reference to who develops the IEP goals, other than stating that the IEP team is responsible. While professionally I wholeheartedly support the use of the PT, OT and ST developing the goals and benchmarks related to their areas of expertise, nothing in the special education laws requires this that I can find. Lori Dominiczak, PT, MS Cedar Haven Rehabilitation Agency West Bend WI School-based therapists I need help from the group concerning legal provision of therapy in schools. Our school therapists in Missouri are just being told by the school administrators that they will no longer be providing much therapy, but will be used primarily on a consultative basis. They are no longer to attend the IEP meetings or staffings to plan for the IEP. The teachers will be doing the therapy goals and also providing the therapy and following the therapists' instructions. According to everything that I have been able to locate in the state Practice Acts for OT, PT and Speech, this is not legal, but the schools seem to think that they can get away with it because the therapy is for " educational purposes " . The students that are receiving the therapy are not mildly involved, but very severe, with serious spasticity and tone issues, among other things. I would appreciate any input that anyone can give me concerning this. Thanks everyone. Diane P. Pickel, OTR/L President Therapy Associates, LLC 11900 W. 87th St. Parkway, Suite 200 Lenexa, KS 66215 fax This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately, destroy/delete all copies of this e-mail & any attachments. Any unauthorized copying/disclosure/distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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