Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 I have a question regarding reevals also. Our PT biller went to a seminar yesterday where she was told that 97002 is not covered by Medicare and should not be billed to that payor. We can't find verification of this. Can anyone help clarify? Vicki Saunders Practice Administrator Mays and Schnapp Pain Clinic and Rehabilitation Center Medicare 30 day rule Hello all, My supervisor has asked me to post the following question (any documentation you can refer us to would be great): How is the following situation handled? The 30 day reassessment date (from date of eval) is for example, August 11, but the PT (due to scheduling problems, vacation, etc. ) cannot reevaluate the patient say until August 13. Can the patient be seen for treatment on Aug 12 (by a PTA) or do they have to lose treatment time until the reassesment actually takes place? My review of Transmittal 5 (January 2004), 220.3.1 (Physician's Certification and Recertification), Section D (Delayed Certification) shows: " Delayed certifications and recertifications are to include an explanation for the delay and any other evidence the clinic considers necessary in the case. The format of delayed certifications and recertifications and the method by which they are obtained is left to the individual facility and/or practitioner. " Does anyone have experience with documenting similar reasons for delayed recert's? Thanks for any help! Lorraine Tyner, MPT Phila, PA Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Lorraine, During my work in a SNF, where pt's had to be recertified every 30 days, each facility handled it a little differently. Sometimes the facility would require that all patients be recertified at the beginning of every month (a real pain for those pt's evaluated at the end of the month), while others required recert 30 days following eval. On occasion, if I knew that the recert fell during a time when I knew that it couldn't be completed (Sunday for example), I would simply complete the recertification early. To my knowledge there isn't a penalty for doing so. In my opinion, it's better to get it done early than to have it be late. I don't believe that any treatment can be provided after the certification period has lapsed. I wish that I could steer you in the direction of supportive documentation regarding what I've told you, but what I've shared is based on how our company handled situations similar to what you mentioned. Thanks, Curtis Marti, OTR/L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 In hindsight when we know this situation is going to occur due to a vacation, staffing issue etc. we go ahead and complete the re-certification early. If it occurs due to unexpected event (i.e. illness), the re-cert itself is completed and dated the day the therapist completes it, however, the recertification dates on the 701 still represent the original re-cert period for physician signature. Once again this is the clarification we have received from our local FI. As for treatment, if you have a physician order for treatment on a daily basis I would not skip the treatment due to state compliance issues with following physician orders. The completion of the 701/or 30 day re-certification really is indicative of reimbursement for services not actually limiting the delivery of services under our state practice act. Medicare 30 day rule Hello all, My supervisor has asked me to post the following question (any documentation you can refer us to would be great): How is the following situation handled? The 30 day reassessment date (from date of eval) is for example, August 11, but the PT (due to scheduling problems, vacation, etc. ) cannot reevaluate the patient say until August 13. Can the patient be seen for treatment on Aug 12 (by a PTA) or do they have to lose treatment time until the reassesment actually takes place? My review of Transmittal 5 (January 2004), 220.3.1 (Physician's Certification and Recertification), Section D (Delayed Certification) shows: " Delayed certifications and recertifications are to include an explanation for the delay and any other evidence the clinic considers necessary in the case. The format of delayed certifications and recertifications and the method by which they are obtained is left to the individual facility and/or practitioner. " Does anyone have experience with documenting similar reasons for delayed recert's? Thanks for any help! Lorraine Tyner, MPT Phila, PA Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 I do not bill re-evals as you are limited in what you can bill along with it the same day. I believe these edits are still in effect today. As with all other billing issues, this may be region specific depending on your FI so contact yours to find out. Matt Dvorak, PT Yankton, SD ________________________________ From: Vicki Saunders Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 10:12 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Medicare 30 day rule I have a question regarding reevals also. Our PT biller went to a seminar yesterday where she was told that 97002 is not covered by Medicare and should not be billed to that payor. We can't find verification of this. Can anyone help clarify? Vicki Saunders Practice Administrator Mays and Schnapp Pain Clinic and Rehabilitation Center Medicare 30 day rule Hello all, My supervisor has asked me to post the following question (any documentation you can refer us to would be great): How is the following situation handled? The 30 day reassessment date (from date of eval) is for example, August 11, but the PT (due to scheduling problems, vacation, etc. ) cannot reevaluate the patient say until August 13. Can the patient be seen for treatment on Aug 12 (by a PTA) or do they have to lose treatment time until the reassesment actually takes place? My review of Transmittal 5 (January 2004), 220.3.1 (Physician's Certification and Recertification), Section D (Delayed Certification) shows: " Delayed certifications and recertifications are to include an explanation for the delay and any other evidence the clinic considers necessary in the case. The format of delayed certifications and recertifications and the method by which they are obtained is left to the individual facility and/or practitioner. " Does anyone have experience with documenting similar reasons for delayed recert's? Thanks for any help! Lorraine Tyner, MPT Phila, PA Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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