Re: post-cult recovery... may be triggering

[Guest guest]

<<... I also question when others need to impose their values on us.

I see this as a totally personal thing and one of the basic reasons

the the USA exists in the first place. >>

Otwoma, I suppose everybody here knows by now that the USA is a BIG

trigger for me. The USA came into existance for freedom, equality,

human rights, and the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. This

is the very reason it is so triggering for me. These ideals, which

are very dear to me, have been betrayed by the USA I know and by the

USA that is now trying to impose its will, unilaterally, on the rest

of the world.

Sorry if this is triggering to others, but turn-around is fair play.

- Dan

[Guest guest]

Dan,

I have no problem with the feelings expressed in your post. As

always, I considered them to be YOUR thoughts and YOUR feelings - and

as such, they do not have to affect me if I feel differently.

Additionally, you have expressed yourself on this subject before in a

way that I have an understanding of why you feel the way you do - and

how you feel makes a lot of sense in light of what you have

experienced.

I do have a bit of a problem with your disclaimer though. The " Sorry

if this is triggering to others, but turn-around is fair play "

I even looked up the idiom to make sure I wasn't taking it the wrong

way. What I found is:

" turn about is fair play - you get what you give, what goes

around... If you give pain you'll feel pain. Turn about is fair

play. "

Are you saying you have been attacked - and are attacking back? It is

almost like the attack is IN the disclaimer.

To say - I am sorry if this is triggering - but I feel I have been

attacked and I need to express myself - is valid.

But to me - turn about is NOT fair play. Turn about is a counter-

attack.

Free

> <<... I also question when others need to impose their values on

us.

> I see this as a totally personal thing and one of the basic reasons

> the the USA exists in the first place. >>

>

> Otwoma, I suppose everybody here knows by now that the USA is a BIG

> trigger for me. The USA came into existance for freedom, equality,

> human rights, and the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.

This

> is the very reason it is so triggering for me. These ideals, which

> are very dear to me, have been betrayed by the USA I know and by

the

> USA that is now trying to impose its will, unilaterally, on the

rest

> of the world.

>

> Sorry if this is triggering to others, but turn-around is fair play.

>

> - Dan

[Guest guest]

Free,

I did not mean to attack anyone. It is OK with me if people post

things that are triggering to me. " Turn-around is fair play " means

that I also want the right to express my feelings even if they could

be triggering to others. I have gotten into bad trouble from this

before on this group, so I sort of put on my porcupine suit before I

replied.

- Dan