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to in Dallas - I have not posted here for a long time as life

has just been so complicated but your post moved me to do so.

PLEASE do a search on this site for posts re: ativan.

My MIL for whom I caregive has been on Paxil now for agitation 5 mg

for about 2 years - it has not seemed to have any adverse effects

and when I talked to the Behavioral Neurologist Consultant about her

and meds it was not one he considered a problem. Also she takes

25mg Imipramine and 20 mg Geodon - the Geodon helps with

hallucinations. The Imipramine was originally started to help with

bladder leakage but it also has helped with aggitation. We had no

success with Seroquel but many have.

I found the agitation was helped dramatically by just reassuring her

that I knew she was scared but we'd get thru it together whatever

happens.

Hope some of this is a help

Sandy (OH)

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My dad is on Trazodone - 25 mg (I think...I forget the dosage now

that I'm no longer giving it to him). He takes it at 8 pm and it

presumably calms him down. Lately, he's been up and not able to

sleep but, to the best of my knowledge, he doesn't appear to be

agitated anymore.

Hope this helps.

Abby

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Hi, ,

I'm sure you realize that Ativan (lorazepam) is one of the

benzodiazepines that many have found to be a problem in combination

with LBD. Given that, you're instincts are probably right about

wanting your mother off of it, not just on a lower dose of it. Ativan

and Seroquel don't really mix very well anyway.

The dose of Seroquel seems quite high, yet depending on her symtoms,

age and weight it may well be appropriate, yet keep in mind that the

adverse reactions to it can look a lot like the symptoms you are

hoping to control. If she is in a controlled setting with a regular

routine, possibly the Seroquel dose could be titrated slowly downward

just to see whether or not her agitation is dose-related to her

Seroquel.

Desyrel (trazodone) is a good antidepressant yet it has side effects

that some of the newer ones don't and I believe the newer ones are

generally more compatible with LBD. I think antidepressants can be a

good addition to the drug regimen, especially for LO's who know they

have dementia and that " things are not right " - as my elderly mother

knows. This creates a feeling of great loss and depression. My mother

is also fearful when nothing looks or feels familiar and we have

found a low dose of Seroquel and Zoloft help this. Her hallucinations

are somewhat controlled but they don't seem to bother her or me or

the nh staff so it's not been one of my goals to have them eradicated.

Another factor that might be considered is the amount of caffeine she

might be ingesting via coffee, tea or cola. Caffeine is a stimulant

and can cause great agitation, especially for people like LBDer's who

are prone to it. So I do encourage you to remove caffeine as a

possible source of problems.

My mother has been on Namenda (memantine) for 8 months and I found

that she regained some control within her environment and this

alleviated some of her agitation, too. I titrated her up very, very

slowly to let her reach a good plateau at each dosage level.

She " landed " at 10 mg at bedtime and 5 mg in the morning and cannot

tolerate more than that.

If your mother happens to be taking any other medications, there may

be other factors to take in to consideration, too.

Sending a long, soothing hug to your mother and to you and hoping

some of this information is helpful.

Deb

> I talked to my Mother's doctor today and she has taken Mother off

of the Ativan. She said

> she had talked with the nurses and Mother has had Ativan 9 times

this month. She said we

> would try it for awhile and see how it goes, but the nurses may

need something to give her

> when Mother gets very agitated. She said she might want to allow

them to give her a

> smaller dose of Ativan.

>

> My questions to the group is: Is there a tranquilizer that is

acceptable for LBD? Is there

> something else that can be given for agitation?

>

> Mother is on 100 mg Seroquel twice a day. This has not stopped her

hallucinations. The

> doctor did suggest that they might change her dosage of Seroquel.

>

> I suggested antidepressants to the doctor, but she didn't seem to

think that would help.

> Mother says she is not so sad as she is scared. She is not scared

everyday, but I think the

> fear is what causes her to be agitated.

>

> Any suggestions that anyone has for helping with the agitation is

welcome.

>

> in Dallas

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Hi, ,

I'm sure you realize that Ativan (lorazepam) is one of the

benzodiazepines that many have found to be a problem in combination

with LBD. Given that, you're instincts are probably right about

wanting your mother off of it, not just on a lower dose of it. Ativan

and Seroquel don't really mix very well anyway.

The dose of Seroquel seems quite high, yet depending on her symtoms,

age and weight it may well be appropriate, yet keep in mind that the

adverse reactions to it can look a lot like the symptoms you are

hoping to control. If she is in a controlled setting with a regular

routine, possibly the Seroquel dose could be titrated slowly downward

just to see whether or not her agitation is dose-related to her

Seroquel.

Desyrel (trazodone) is a good antidepressant yet it has side effects

that some of the newer ones don't and I believe the newer ones are

generally more compatible with LBD. I think antidepressants can be a

good addition to the drug regimen, especially for LO's who know they

have dementia and that " things are not right " - as my elderly mother

knows. This creates a feeling of great loss and depression. My mother

is also fearful when nothing looks or feels familiar and we have

found a low dose of Seroquel and Zoloft help this. Her hallucinations

are somewhat controlled but they don't seem to bother her or me or

the nh staff so it's not been one of my goals to have them eradicated.

Another factor that might be considered is the amount of caffeine she

might be ingesting via coffee, tea or cola. Caffeine is a stimulant

and can cause great agitation, especially for people like LBDer's who

are prone to it. So I do encourage you to remove caffeine as a

possible source of problems.

My mother has been on Namenda (memantine) for 8 months and I found

that she regained some control within her environment and this

alleviated some of her agitation, too. I titrated her up very, very

slowly to let her reach a good plateau at each dosage level.

She " landed " at 10 mg at bedtime and 5 mg in the morning and cannot

tolerate more than that.

If your mother happens to be taking any other medications, there may

be other factors to take in to consideration, too.

Sending a long, soothing hug to your mother and to you and hoping

some of this information is helpful.

Deb

> I talked to my Mother's doctor today and she has taken Mother off

of the Ativan. She said

> she had talked with the nurses and Mother has had Ativan 9 times

this month. She said we

> would try it for awhile and see how it goes, but the nurses may

need something to give her

> when Mother gets very agitated. She said she might want to allow

them to give her a

> smaller dose of Ativan.

>

> My questions to the group is: Is there a tranquilizer that is

acceptable for LBD? Is there

> something else that can be given for agitation?

>

> Mother is on 100 mg Seroquel twice a day. This has not stopped her

hallucinations. The

> doctor did suggest that they might change her dosage of Seroquel.

>

> I suggested antidepressants to the doctor, but she didn't seem to

think that would help.

> Mother says she is not so sad as she is scared. She is not scared

everyday, but I think the

> fear is what causes her to be agitated.

>

> Any suggestions that anyone has for helping with the agitation is

welcome.

>

> in Dallas

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Hmmmmmm....maybe it's that large dose of Seroquel thats got your mom

agitated?

Courage

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>I talked to my Mother's doctor today and she has taken Mother off of the

Ativan. She said

>she had talked with the nurses and Mother has had Ativan 9 times this

month. She said we

>would try it for awhile and see how it goes, but the nurses may need

something to give her

>when Mother gets very agitated. She said she might want to allow them to

give her a

>smaller dose of Ativan.

>

>My questions to the group is: Is there a tranquilizer that is acceptable

for LBD? Is there

>something else that can be given for agitation?

>

>Mother is on 100 mg Seroquel twice a day. This has not stopped her

hallucinations. The

>doctor did suggest that they might change her dosage of Seroquel.

>

>I suggested antidepressants to the doctor, but she didn't seem to think

that would help.

>Mother says she is not so sad as she is scared. She is not scared everyday,

but I think the

>fear is what causes her to be agitated.

>

>Any suggestions that anyone has for helping with the agitation is welcome.

>

> in Dallas

>

>

>

>

>Welcome to LBDcaregivers.

>

>

>

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