Re: Question re SSRIs & smart alek mouth

[Guest guest]

I haven't seen smart alek mouth due to a SSRI but my son did develop that

over about a 4-5 week period on Valtrex. I can say that my husband's sarcasm

and

smart alek comments have reduced since he started Paxil so maybe an imbalance

can increase them.

Bill, my son was non-verbal until around age 5 and barely verbal at age 6 and

now can smart-mouth like the best of them at age 12. I have to keep

reminding myself of that when I get tired of his constant need to chat. Here's

hoping

you'll be posting a smart-mouth message or talking about your motor-mouth

child in a few years .

Barb, your message about your son's comment makes me think he'd fit in

perfectly with others his age. I spent the afternoon at a gathering with kids

age

10-14 and their moms and heard many " exhibits of independence " like that .

The more time I spend with kids my son's age, the more I realize that some of

what I thought was special-needs behavioral issues is really pretty typical for

his age group.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Thanks - Actually he does do pretty well at telling us

how he feels lately, too. And he told his teachers,

his grandmothers, and the kids at school that his

mommy isn't nice! So he's a bit mad at me for

cracking down on the smart mouth lol.

I appreciate your other input too on finding the right

balance. I do get frustrated and discouraged, but

most of the time I'm a long way from feeling hopeless.

It's a hard road to find those balances sometimes,

but then many times things will click so abruptly my

head swims. But it sure helps to vent - if I don't

have someone to vent to, I'm liable to blow. But I

just went to tuck him in and he actually gave me a

hug. That hasn't happened (willingly) in a long time.

(For some people it doesn't happen at all).

Hanging in there,

--- Shenko <jankevus@...> wrote:

> It is so tough especially because he is so young and

> can not tell you how he feels. When they get seven

> they can somewhat communicate with you and tell you

> how they feel. Keep on keeping on, we will keep our

> fingers crossed for you.

> Kev and Jan

> --- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> > Paxil was 2.5 mg in the a.m. for a 4 1/2 yr old 39

> > to

> > 40lb boy. Celexa is also 2.5mg in the a.m. Those

> > are

> > only one step up on the beginning doses, but I

> > wouldn't be shocked if he couldn't handle much.

> In

> > fact, the one time I tried an SSRI, I felt pretty

> > angry towards the entire world myself. However,

> my

> > dh

> > is doing fabulous on Zoloft. Maybe that will be a

> > better match. We have a consult next Tues, so I

> > guess

> > we'll spend a lot of time on the SSRI subject.

> >

> > I don't totally mind - I see good things happening

> > as

> > well, but this must go.

> >

> > Thanks-

> >

> >

> > --- jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > >

> > > was very difiant when his Zoloft was

> > > high(75mg), he would talk

> > > back to teachers, and get in trouble with

> > classmates

> > > in school. After

> > > reduced to 50 mg, all those disappear after a

> > week,

> > > and his language

> > > is very good right now. What is your paxil dose,

> > and

> > > what is your

> > > celexa dose? It maybe a wrong dose for your son.

> > >

> > > Jin

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi all -

> > > >

> > > > My son started Paxil for a couple of weeks,

> had

> > a

> > > lot

> > > > of angry outbursts (but he's had them as well

> > > prior to

> > > > SSRIs) but also had other improvements. Dr G

> > > switched

> > > > him to Celexa about 2 weeks later, and MAN

> this

> > > child

> > > > (4 1/2) has developed the smartest mouth and

> > > nastiest

> > > > attitude I have ever seen in him. At times,

> > > > everything that comes out of his mouth is ugly

> > and

> > > he

> > > > argues with every single thing anyone says to

> > him.

> > > He

> > > > has been on the Celexa about 11 days now, and

> > last

> > > > night was the worst, and the teachers @

> > preschool

> > > > reported that he was very sarcastic and

> > > smart-mouthed

> > > > with them all day as well (not typical of him

> at

> > > all).

> > > > They said it's a good thing there are two of

> > them

> > > to

> > > > relieve each other (that's how nasty he can be

> -

> > > it

> > > > really makes you mad-lol!)

> > > >

> > > > I just want to know if anyone else has had

> this

> > > > 'symptom' and if it passed after a little

> while

> > or

> > > > not. I'm concerned about other potential

> > triggers

> > > as

> > > > well, and will have to work his diet a bit to

> be

> > > sure

> > > > he's not reacting to some foods, but the

> timing

> > is

> > > > like the day after the swap from Paxil to

> > Celexa.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, just wanting to know others'

> experience

> > > w/the

> > > > smart mouth. I really don't want it to get

> > stuck

> > > this

> > > > way haha. In the meantime, I will continue to

> > > > exercise MONUMENTAL patience.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Don't worry our problems are all different - we also have a non verbal six year

old and when I saw your post I had a little giggle and thought yes that would do

us as well - but then again no-one likes a smart mouth kid so I feel for you -

just hopefully its a phase that can be worked on since this is not his usual

self - so don't regret posting it as others may have had that reaction to SSRI's

as well and we all need to know about it.

Regards

Terri NZ

Re: Question re SSRIs & smart alek mouth

Bill - I know. I actually thought of that while I was

typing my post, and have thought that many times

tonight - to keep my sanity and realize how lucky I am

to be having this problem. A year ago I was terrified

that I would not experience this type of wilfulness,

communication, etc. While life is not so easy, I know

just how much more difficult it could be, how much

more difficult it was than it is now, and how far we

have to go to have what most parents take for granted.

I won't forget what other parents are suffering on

such a greater scale than I am. My heart goes out to

you, and to all the children who need so much help.

He still drives me crazy sometimes though. (to be

lighthearted).

Always with mixed emotions,

--- bill klimas <BristolY@...> wrote:

>

> Not to be negative but as the father of a non-verbal

> six year old I would

> love to have your problem.

> Bill K

> Question re SSRIs & smart alek mouth

>

>

> > Hi all -

> >

> > My son started Paxil for a couple of weeks, had a

> lot

> > of angry outbursts (but he's had them as well

> prior to

> > SSRIs) but also had other improvements. Dr G

> switched

> > him to Celexa about 2 weeks later, and MAN this

> child

> > (4 1/2) has developed the smartest mouth and

> nastiest

> > attitude I have ever seen in him. At times,

> > everything that comes out of his mouth is ugly and

> he

> > argues with every single thing anyone says to him.

> He

> > has been on the Celexa about 11 days now, and last

> > night was the worst, and the teachers @ preschool

> > reported that he was very sarcastic and

> smart-mouthed

> > with them all day as well (not typical of him at

> all).

> > They said it's a good thing there are two of them

> to

> > relieve each other (that's how nasty he can be -

> it

> > really makes you mad-lol!)

> >

> > I just want to know if anyone else has had this

> > 'symptom' and if it passed after a little while or

> > not. I'm concerned about other potential triggers

> as

> > well, and will have to work his diet a bit to be

> sure

> > he's not reacting to some foods, but the timing is

> > like the day after the swap from Paxil to Celexa.

> >

> > Anyway, just wanting to know others' experience

> w/the

> > smart mouth. I really don't want it to get stuck

> this

> > way haha. In the meantime, I will continue to

> > exercise MONUMENTAL patience.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Your dose is actually very low as you said. I remember always

takes about a month on a specific dose even at 2.5 mg to overcome

those sensory issues accompanied celexa. When he gets up to next

dose, he got worse again. I think it will pass after a month also, by

then you will be able to tell if it is worth stick to it.

He is doing well on Zoloft right now, It take much less time to

adjust after we got on right dose. But every child is different.

Take care

Jin

> > ,

> >

> > was very difiant when his Zoloft was

> > high(75mg), he would talk

> > back to teachers, and get in trouble with classmates

> > in school. After

> > reduced to 50 mg, all those disappear after a week,

> > and his language

> > is very good right now. What is your paxil dose, and

> > what is your

> > celexa dose? It maybe a wrong dose for your son.

> >

> > Jin

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[Guest guest]

, we are having these problems with our almost

13 y.o.. He used to be so sweet. Now he is also

smart mouthed and quite difficult to be around at

times. Dr. G says it is possibly that he is going

thru stages that he never did go thru developmentally.

Also he is nearing puberty, altho he is showing no

signs of it. That can also cause moodiness, etc. He

informed me tonight, that he was NOT going to bed. I

informed him that I was then going to throw his

nintendo gamecube away. That always works to make him

come around.

--- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Bill - I know. I actually thought of that while I

> was

> typing my post, and have thought that many times

> tonight - to keep my sanity and realize how lucky I

> am

> to be having this problem. A year ago I was

> terrified

> that I would not experience this type of wilfulness,

> communication, etc. While life is not so easy, I

> know

> just how much more difficult it could be, how much

> more difficult it was than it is now, and how far we

> have to go to have what most parents take for

> granted.

> I won't forget what other parents are suffering on

> such a greater scale than I am. My heart goes out

> to

> you, and to all the children who need so much help.

>

> He still drives me crazy sometimes though. (to be

> lighthearted).

>

> Always with mixed emotions,

>

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