Re: Mainstream doctors....grrrr

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Another thing to watch for is that some ear drops

have thimerisol in them. Lovely.

wrote:

Hi Kim,

Just a note on the ear drops, my son's ENT says that they only work

when the kid has tubes. My son is on his 3rd set so we can go that

route, but when they fell out in early Dec, she told me if he got an

infection before the new set went it he would have to go oral abx.

The tube pierces the membrane and allows the med to go straight to

the infection. Next time I will ask about injection and the gut.

Hope that helps a little.

> >

> > Okay, I have to vent and ask a question.

> >

> > I had to take to the local clinic this

> > morning, as we thought he might have another ear

> > infection, as well as pink eye.

> >

> > I can't stand the pediatrician there, but they're

> > a good place for walk in, you don't have to wait

> > forever.

> >

> > I always get into an argument about not-vaxing

> > with him. Today I just told the nurse his shots

> > were up to date to avoid the fight.

> >

> > My DAN advised anti-biotic ear drops for ear

> > infection, and a rocephin shot if the drops

> > didn't work.

> >

> > had an ear infection 2 weeks ago. We

> > started the drops on a Thurs and by Monday, when

> > his DAN checked his ear, the infection was gone.

> >

> > Dr. Hussein (the mainstream doc) said that abx

> > eardrops won't cross the timpatic membrane to

> > heal middle ear infection. He also said that

> > oral abx or injected abx would both affect the

> > gut.

> >

> > I told him that I'd always been given drops and

> > oral abx in the past for mid ear infection, and

> > he said whoever did this was wrong.

> >

> > He just drove me nuts, rolling his damn eyes

> > while I tried to explain why I wanted to avoid

> > abx. They're unnecessary anyways, as

> > doesn't have an ear infection.

> >

> > So, two questions: 1. when you were only doing

> > mainstream medicine and your kid had an ear

> > infection, were you prescribed oral and topical

> > abx? 2. Is it true that oral abx vs injected abx

> > are equal in their effect on the gut?

> >

> > Kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Another thing to watch for is that some ear drops

have thimerisol in them. Lovely.

wrote:

Hi Kim,

Just a note on the ear drops, my son's ENT says that they only work

when the kid has tubes. My son is on his 3rd set so we can go that

route, but when they fell out in early Dec, she told me if he got an

infection before the new set went it he would have to go oral abx.

The tube pierces the membrane and allows the med to go straight to

the infection. Next time I will ask about injection and the gut.

Hope that helps a little.

> >

> > Okay, I have to vent and ask a question.

> >

> > I had to take to the local clinic this

> > morning, as we thought he might have another ear

> > infection, as well as pink eye.

> >

> > I can't stand the pediatrician there, but they're

> > a good place for walk in, you don't have to wait

> > forever.

> >

> > I always get into an argument about not-vaxing

> > with him. Today I just told the nurse his shots

> > were up to date to avoid the fight.

> >

> > My DAN advised anti-biotic ear drops for ear

> > infection, and a rocephin shot if the drops

> > didn't work.

> >

> > had an ear infection 2 weeks ago. We

> > started the drops on a Thurs and by Monday, when

> > his DAN checked his ear, the infection was gone.

> >

> > Dr. Hussein (the mainstream doc) said that abx

> > eardrops won't cross the timpatic membrane to

> > heal middle ear infection. He also said that

> > oral abx or injected abx would both affect the

> > gut.

> >

> > I told him that I'd always been given drops and

> > oral abx in the past for mid ear infection, and

> > he said whoever did this was wrong.

> >

> > He just drove me nuts, rolling his damn eyes

> > while I tried to explain why I wanted to avoid

> > abx. They're unnecessary anyways, as

> > doesn't have an ear infection.

> >

> > So, two questions: 1. when you were only doing

> > mainstream medicine and your kid had an ear

> > infection, were you prescribed oral and topical

> > abx? 2. Is it true that oral abx vs injected abx

> > are equal in their effect on the gut?

> >

> > Kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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OMGosh! Are you kidding me? Thimerisol in drops

makes me think of all the years I put my contacts

in with thimerisol drops. Gotta make you wonder

what my body burden is.

--- " , Ind. Supervisor with Sensaria

Natural Bodycare " wrote:

> Another thing to watch for is that some ear

> drops have thimerisol in

> them. Lovely.

>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Kim,

> > Just a note on the ear drops, my son's ENT

> says that they only work

> > when the kid has tubes. My son is on his 3rd

> set so we can go that

> > route, but when they fell out in early Dec,

> she told me if he got an

> > infection before the new set went it he would

> have to go oral abx.

> > The tube pierces the membrane and allows the

> med to go straight to

> > the infection. Next time I will ask about

> injection and the gut.

> >

> > Hope that helps a little.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Okay, I have to vent and ask a question.

> > > >

> > > > I had to take to the local clinic

> this

> > > > morning, as we thought he might have

> another ear

> > > > infection, as well as pink eye.

> > > >

> > > > I can't stand the pediatrician there, but

> they're

> > > > a good place for walk in, you don't have

> to wait

> > > > forever.

> > > >

> > > > I always get into an argument about

> not-vaxing

> > > > with him. Today I just told the nurse his

> shots

> > > > were up to date to avoid the fight.

> > > >

> > > > My DAN advised anti-biotic ear drops for

> ear

> > > > infection, and a rocephin shot if the

> drops

> > > > didn't work.

> > > >

> > > > had an ear infection 2 weeks ago.

> We

> > > > started the drops on a Thurs and by

> Monday, when

> > > > his DAN checked his ear, the infection

> was gone.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Hussein (the mainstream doc) said

> that abx

> > > > eardrops won't cross the timpatic

> membrane to

> > > > heal middle ear infection. He also said

> that

> > > > oral abx or injected abx would both

> affect the

> > > > gut.

> > > >

> > > > I told him that I'd always been given

> drops and

> > > > oral abx in the past for mid ear

> infection, and

> > > > he said whoever did this was wrong.

> > > >

> > > > He just drove me nuts, rolling his damn

> eyes

> > > > while I tried to explain why I wanted to

> avoid

> > > > abx. They're unnecessary anyways, as

>

> > > > doesn't have an ear infection.

> > > >

> > > > So, two questions: 1. when you were only

> doing

> > > > mainstream medicine and your kid had an

> ear

> > > > infection, were you prescribed oral and

> topical

> > > > abx? 2. Is it true that oral abx vs

> injected abx

> > > > are equal in their effect on the gut?

> > > >

> > > > Kim

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Kim,

This is true. Antibiotic ear drops only work if there are tubes or a

perforation with drainage. I used to work for an ENT for years

before my son was born.

I would definitely prefer the Rocephin over the oral antibiotic. It

makes sense to me that since the antibiotic is injected into the leg

muscle instead of digested in the gut it would have to be easier on

an already leaky gut.

Bless your heart. You guys sure have had a time of it lately.

Tina

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, I have to vent and ask a question.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had to take to the local clinic

> > this

> > > > > morning, as we thought he might have

> > another ear

> > > > > infection, as well as pink eye.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can't stand the pediatrician there, but

> > they're

> > > > > a good place for walk in, you don't have

> > to wait

> > > > > forever.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get into an argument about

> > not-vaxing

> > > > > with him. Today I just told the nurse his

> > shots

> > > > > were up to date to avoid the fight.

> > > > >

> > > > > My DAN advised anti-biotic ear drops for

> > ear

> > > > > infection, and a rocephin shot if the

> > drops

> > > > > didn't work.

> > > > >

> > > > > had an ear infection 2 weeks ago.

> > We

> > > > > started the drops on a Thurs and by

> > Monday, when

> > > > > his DAN checked his ear, the infection

> > was gone.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Hussein (the mainstream doc) said

> > that abx

> > > > > eardrops won't cross the timpatic

> > membrane to

> > > > > heal middle ear infection. He also said

> > that

> > > > > oral abx or injected abx would both

> > affect the

> > > > > gut.

> > > > >

> > > > > I told him that I'd always been given

> > drops and

> > > > > oral abx in the past for mid ear

> > infection, and

> > > > > he said whoever did this was wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > He just drove me nuts, rolling his damn

> > eyes

> > > > > while I tried to explain why I wanted to

> > avoid

> > > > > abx. They're unnecessary anyways, as

> >

> > > > > doesn't have an ear infection.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, two questions: 1. when you were only

> > doing

> > > > > mainstream medicine and your kid had an

> > ear

> > > > > infection, were you prescribed oral and

> > topical

> > > > > abx? 2. Is it true that oral abx vs

> > injected abx

> > > > > are equal in their effect on the gut?

> > > > >

> > > > > Kim

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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The mainstream guy may be rude, but he is right about the

drops. They are only useful for otitis externa (an ear canal infection or

swimmers ear) or if your child has tubes in his ear. You have to have oral or

injectable antibiotics for middle ear infections. An injectable antibiotic

will still affect the gut in the long run but not near as much as an oral one.

What I was taught in med school though, is that most ear

infections are viral and not bacterial. So…you treat with fever and pain

reducers for 24 to 48 hours and if the problem is still there, then it is more

likely bacterial and then you go in for the antibiotics.

[Guest guest]

The mainstream guy may be rude, but he is right about the

drops. They are only useful for otitis externa (an ear canal infection or

swimmers ear) or if your child has tubes in his ear. You have to have oral or

injectable antibiotics for middle ear infections. An injectable antibiotic

will still affect the gut in the long run but not near as much as an oral one.

What I was taught in med school though, is that most ear

infections are viral and not bacterial. So…you treat with fever and pain

reducers for 24 to 48 hours and if the problem is still there, then it is more

likely bacterial and then you go in for the antibiotics.

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>

> What I was taught in med school though, is that

> most ear infections are

> viral and not bacterial. So.you treat with

> fever and pain reducers for 24

> to 48 hours and if the problem is still there,

> then it is more likely

> bacterial and then you go in for the

> antibiotics.

>

That's pretty much what he told me. He's just

not my favorite doc for a few reasons. Our

personalities don't click, we always argue about

vaccines, oh, and my personal favorite; he

slapped my daughter on the back with his

clipboard when he was checking her for scoliosis

because she wasn't " doing it right "

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