Re: another weird fasting poop

[Guest guest]

It was about a 8 inch string of mucous with disk like poop rings along it's

length. They seemed almost like accordian flaps, but not that flat. I looked

at it and hoped it wasn't indicative of the shape of my colon - pretty

scary. There was also a smallish light-colored round hard poop with it,

which reminded of my dog's stool when he consumes chicken necks. In any

case, there were a few small undigested pieces of...dunno..maybe nuts? in

the accordian section. I haven't eaten nuts in maybe a week or two.

Luckily, none of these hard things in my stool have the characteristic

tentacles of tumors so I'm not worried about that. But I find it interesting

that I'm passing undigested things that have been sitting in my intestines

for a minimum of a week, possibly longer. This doesn't speak to the crusty

colon phenomenon mentioned in another thread, but it's clear to me after

this personal experience that stuff can get stuck in intestines for some

time. Where is it when all the more recently eaten food passes it by and

gets eliminated??? In diverticuli?

Also, interestingly I felt really good after both of my eliminations today.

I felt like a weight had been lifted off me. This afternoon/evening I've had

increased energy too. Maybe 30-50% more than the first 4 days of the fast.

My only complaint is that I started to get sharp pains in my head starting

about 15 mins after doing the enema. It comes and goes.

Gosh, fasting is fun! :-/

[Guest guest]

Suze,

At one time or another, I've had " trophies " that sound very close to what

you've been describing -- the disks strung on mucus, the " crusty " flakes,

and the flat, transparent ribbons containing God-knows-what. So, you're

not alone. <g>

I have no idea where these things might be hiding out, but it occurs to me

that with all the looping around the small intestine does, it might not be

that hard for some things to stick to and/or simply settle where there are

loops or curves that are lower than others (much in the way drains begin to

clog).

One last thought. Someone -- maybe Robin -- mentioned lymph brushing

recently. I do this once a week, the only difference being I brush towards

the colon, not the heart. The first time I did it in this detoxing program,

I eliminated two stretches of what looked like a rubbery mucus, each at

least two feet in length. I feel this is an important thing for me because

the dark ring around my irises apparently points to a very sluggish

lymphatic system.

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

Whoops. Sorry for the re-post of Suze's material, which I meant only to

copy for response.

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

>One last thought. Someone -- maybe Robin -- mentioned lymph brushing

>recently. I do this once a week, the only difference being I brush towards

>the colon, not the heart. The first time I did it in this detoxing program,

>I eliminated two stretches of what looked like a rubbery mucus, each at

>least two feet in length. I feel this is an important thing for me because

>the dark ring around my irises apparently points to a very sluggish

>lymphatic system.

>

>

>http://www.taichi4seniors.com

>

>

>

Interesting. So, when you get to your stomach (and back), you brush

down instead of up? Is that the only difference?

Steph

[Guest guest]

Steph,

<Interesting. So, when you get to your stomach (and back), you brush

down instead of up? Is that the only difference?

Hm. Just to be sure I'm being clear: I start from the toes (one swipe only

on a given area, but it doesn't have to be continuous) and go up to the

colon area (incl. over the butt). Then I start from the fingertips, working

up to the shoulders, and from the shoulders down to the abdomen, on both the

front and the back. The brush I use is natural, but not one of those sharp

bristle kinds. It's fairly soft and I use it gently.

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

> Also, interestingly I felt really good after both of my eliminations today.

> I felt like a weight had been lifted off me. This afternoon/evening I've had

> increased energy too. Maybe 30-50% more than the first 4 days of the fast.

> My only complaint is that I started to get sharp pains in my head starting

> about 15 mins after doing the enema. It comes and goes.

>

> Gosh, fasting is fun! :-/

>

> Suze Fisher

Hi Suze, About the headache. Make sure you drink a lot of extra water

when you're doing these things? Could be dehydration?

Also, I was reminded by all the comments in this thread that my toilet

area looked like a lab when I first started performing these: I had a

jeweler's hand lens in there and a little jar to collect specimens.

And how did I get close enough to examine the stuff? I kept a pair of

chopsticks right near the base of the toilet. I refered to the

specimens as chop sewage.... :-)

~Robin Ann

[Guest guest]

>Also, I was reminded by all the comments in this thread that my toilet

>area looked like a lab when I first started performing these: I had a

>jeweler's hand lens in there and a little jar to collect specimens.

>And how did I get close enough to examine the stuff? I kept a pair of

>chopsticks right near the base of the toilet. I refered to the

>specimens as chop sewage....

>~Robin Ann

My Mom used to work in a lab, and she said after awhile they

got so used to examining " lab specimens " that they would

have a sandwich in one hand while fiddling with the " sample "

in the other. Ok, nowadays they would be wearing masks!

Anyway, I guess one adapts.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

> It was about a 8 inch string of mucous with disk like poop rings along

> it's

> length. They seemed almost like accordian flaps, but not that flat. I

> looked

> at it and hoped it wasn't indicative of the shape of my colon - pretty

> scary. There was also a smallish light-colored round hard poop with it,

> which reminded of my dog's stool when he consumes chicken necks. In any

> case, there were a few small undigested pieces of...dunno..maybe nuts? in

> the accordian section. I haven't eaten nuts in maybe a week or two.

Suze,

Sounds like what came out is known as a " mucoid plaque " .

Try searching under Google images to see if this is the same thing.

P.

[Guest guest]

I gather from some recent posts that there are people here who are

angry/disdainful/unbelieving about the current discussion on poop and such.

I have no problem with their responses, especially since one of the people

is , the list owner, and he should be able to comment on, or even

control, the discussion in any way he sees fit.

Right now, though, there may be people on the list who are curious about

enemas or fasting, or who need support as they try these things, and these

folks may want a place to talk and ask questions without feeling shamed or

attacked. So, I'm offering to set up a group for that purpose -- if there's

interest -- or to simply to correspond off list with the one or two who

might want that interaction.

Please contact me off list about these possibilities. Or, if there is

already an existiing group out there, let me know. <g>

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From:

>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of West

>

>

>Suze,

>

>At one time or another, I've had " trophies " that sound very close to what

>you've been describing -- the disks strung on mucus, the " crusty " flakes,

>and the flat, transparent ribbons containing God-knows-what. So, you're

>not alone. <g>

Thanks . After reading 's post, I see that my poop is what is

referred to as " mucoid plaque " . I know the term itself is controversial and

I don't know enough about it to form an opinion, but my poop is exactly what

some folks term as mucoid plaque. It looked a lot like the first picture on

this page: http://www.rawesome.com/mucoid_plaque_exp.htm

I only had one poop like that. On day six (the day after that poop) I had

two good bowel movements but they looked pretty normal, although one

appeared to have undigested nuts or seeds in it.

>

>I have no idea where these things might be hiding out, but it occurs to me

>that with all the looping around the small intestine does, it might not be

>that hard for some things to stick to and/or simply settle where there are

>loops or curves that are lower than others (much in the way drains

>begin to

>clog).

Right. It still blows my mind that I'm pooping out stuff that I ate at

minimum a week ago if not longer.

>

>One last thought. Someone -- maybe Robin -- mentioned lymph brushing

>recently. I do this once a week, the only difference being I

>brush towards

>the colon, not the heart. The first time I did it in this

>detoxing program,

>I eliminated two stretches of what looked like a rubbery mucus, each at

>least two feet in length. I feel this is an important thing for

>me because

>the dark ring around my irises apparently points to a very sluggish

>lymphatic system.

Thanks for the tip :-)

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

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[Guest guest]

>

> After reading 's post, I see that my poop is what is

> referred to as " mucoid plaque " . I know the term itself is controversial

> and don't know enough about it to form an opinion, but my poop is exactly

> what some folks term as mucoid plaque. It looked a lot like the first

> picture on

> this page: http://www.rawesome.com/mucoid_plaque_exp.htm

I looked at the photo and mine looked like that too: In amongst the

regular poops were occasionally these things that were a very slick hard

consistency. mentioned that he thought it might be intestinal lining

and, heck, maybe that's what it is but the main thing for me is that it

happened only at the beginning of my so-called " cleansing " period and hasn't

happened since that time.

My latest guess is that some of us have a combination of especially crooked

colons (because of genetics or because of years of inflammation) and,

although the interiors of these pockets might not show up in a colonoscopy,

when the colon is hydrated or maybe the diet has changed, these things are

flushed out. I'm also still guessing that they are some kind of debris,

whether human or other..

But, y'know... I really have no clue what they are. (But I really did see

them with my own eyes -- just like in the picture -- so I know people are

not making this stuff up..)

:-)

~Robin Ann

[Guest guest]

> But, y'know... I really have no clue what they are. (But I really did see

>them with my own eyes -- just like in the picture -- so I know people are

>not making this stuff up..)

>:-)

>~Robin Ann

>

Well, come on gals. I know you saved your samples <g>. Have them

analyzed. I've seen the ads for Ejuva Cleanse ($369 US) in the Nature's

First Law catalog. Their mucoid plaque photo looks like a tar cast of a

length of colon. What is this stuff? It may vary I'm sure, but Jafa

and (?) say colonoscopies show clean bowels.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

>Right. It still blows my mind that I'm pooping out stuff that I ate at

>minimum a week ago if not longer.

Suze:

I've been thinking about that, and clean colonoscopies not

withstanding, just about everyone has an appendix and they

are noted for holding onto stuff (and then getting infected,

though obviously the only time anyone CHECKS is when

they are infected ...). Diverticuli can do that too.

I'm not sure on the mucoid stuff ... I've been wondering if,

in the absence of food, the gut starts producing more

mucous, or if the mucous just SITS there because there

isn't as much food moving through, or if it's somehow

a combination of mucous plus psyllium, gall, or whatever

that gloms onto the gut the comes loose as a unit.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

>Their mucoid plaque photo looks like a tar cast of a

>length of colon. What is this stuff? It may vary I'm sure, but Jafa

>and (?) say colonoscopies show clean bowels.

>

>Deanna

Have you ever seen myconium, the first stool of a baby? It's

a lot like that ... really tarry and black. I don't know what

myconium is " made of " ... ingested amniotic fluid, bile,

saliva? Would a fasting grown up make something similar?

(only laced with bits of psyllium/bentonite or vegie broth or

whatever).

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

> Have you ever seen myconium, the first stool of a baby? It's

> a lot like that ... really tarry and black. I don't know what

> myconium is " made of " ... ingested amniotic fluid, bile,

> saliva? Would a fasting grown up make something similar?

> (only laced with bits of psyllium/bentonite or vegie broth or

> whatever).

>

> -- Heidi

That's a very interesting thought! hmmm... I'll have to get my sample

off the wall and out of its picture frame...

~Robin Ann

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

>Have you ever seen myconium, the first stool of a baby? It's

>a lot like that ... really tarry and black. I don't know what

>myconium is " made of " ... ingested amniotic fluid, bile,

>saliva? Would a fasting grown up make something similar?

>(only laced with bits of psyllium/bentonite or vegie broth or

>whatever).

>

Wool yeah, I had babies!

But ya know what? You are a thinker, a seeker, a solver. I don't know

what that mucoid plaque is either, but the fact that you make damn good

educated guesses (from whence?) ... and how you obsess about particular

problems until they solved or all channels exhausted ... well, I'm

married to someone kinda like that! :-)

Goddess if I had your way of thinking... So do tell your secrets in

this regard. Pray tell, what connections went through your mind from

mucoid plaque to myconium?

merci,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Deanna-

Maybe these pictures were taken before an enema, thus

the tar looking stuff. I'm only guessing though.

Now, if a person was constipated, I could see that

happening, but I doubt that the feces is impacted or

stuck onto the colon. When his bowels finally move,

the feces will move down his track with nothing stuck.

jafa

--- Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote:

>

> > But, y'know... I really have no clue what they

> are. (But I really did see

> >them with my own eyes -- just like in the picture

> -- so I know people are

> >not making this stuff up..)

> >:-)

> >~Robin Ann

> >

> Well, come on gals. I know you saved your samples

> <g>. Have them

> analyzed. I've seen the ads for Ejuva Cleanse ($369

> US) in the Nature's

> First Law catalog. Their mucoid plaque photo looks

> like a tar cast of a

> length of colon. What is this stuff? It may vary

> I'm sure, but Jafa

> and (?) say colonoscopies show clean bowels.

>

>

> Deanna

>

>

>

>

>

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> removed]

>

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[Guest guest]

jafa,

>Maybe these pictures were taken before an enema, thus

>the tar looking stuff. I'm only guessing though.

>Now, if a person was constipated, I could see that

>happening, but I doubt that the feces is impacted or

>stuck onto the colon. When his bowels finally move,

>the feces will move down his track with nothing stuck.

>

You know, a thought occurred to me about Heidi's meconium idea: Do

breast fed babies and formula fed babies both expel meconium, and if so

equally well? I understand it is the colostrum (fore milk if you will)

that helps the baby get rid of this tarry goo. So if a baby never gets

that, I suppose theoretically some of that might not get removed from

the bowels. But I wouldn't know. I wonder how many folks with mucoid

plaque were formula fed from the get go.

I wonder if hydro therapists (isn't that what you call a colonic

professional?) see mucoid plaque often. I would think with the numbers

of stories out there, we would know more about it.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From:

>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Heidi

>

>

>>Right. It still blows my mind that I'm pooping out stuff that I ate at

>>minimum a week ago if not longer.

>

>Suze:

>

>I've been thinking about that, and clean colonoscopies not

>withstanding, just about everyone has an appendix and they

>are noted for holding onto stuff (and then getting infected,

>though obviously the only time anyone CHECKS is when

>they are infected ...). Diverticuli can do that too.

I don't recall if I've had my appendix removed or not. But diverticuli seem

like a likely culprit.

It seems to me that most folks probaby don't have encrusted stuff hanging

out in their colons (although I could be wrong) but that some apparently do.

Unless Bernard Jensen is lying. Here's a quote:

On page 23 of his [Jensen's] book, Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel

Management, he describes mucoid plaque. " The heavy mucus coating in the

colon thickens and becomes a host of putrefaction. The blood capillaries to

the colon begin to pick up the toxins, poisons and noxious debris as it

seeps through the bowel wall. All tissues and organs of the body are now

taking on toxic substances. Here is the beginning of true autointoxication

on a physiological level. " On page 27, he reveals his experience in this

matter. " One autopsy revealed a colon to be 9 inches in diameter with a

passage through it no larger than a pencil. The rest was caked up layer

upon layer of encrusted fecal material. This accumulation can have the

consistency of truck tire rubber. It's that hard and black. Another autopsy

revealed a stagnant colon to weigh in at an incredible 40 pounds. Imagine

carrying around all that morbid accumulated waste. "

And more...

" On page 42, Dr. Jensen talks about his old teacher Dr. Harvey Kellogg

at the Battle Creek Sanitarium, who " maintained that 90% of the diseases of

civilization are due to improper functioning of the colon. " On page 43, Dr.

Jensen explains that National College in Chicago performed over 300

autopsies. " According to the history of these persons, 285 had claimed they

were not constipated and had normal movements and only 15 had admitted they

were constipated. The autopsies showed the opposite to be the case,

however, and only 15 were found not to have been constipated, while 285

were found to have been constipated. Some of the histories of these 285

persons stated they had had as many as 5 or 6 bowel movements daily, yet

autopsies revealed that in some of them the bowel was 12 inches in diameter.

The bowel walls were encrusted with material (in one case peanuts which had

been lodged there for a very long time). " On page 62, Dr. Jensen explains:

" As we work with eliminating the encrusted mucus lining, we must also

consider nourishing the new cells below it. " On page 67 Dr. Jensen suggests:

" Bowel cleansing is an essential element in any lasting healing program.

The toxic waste must be removed as quickly as possible to halt the downward

spiral of failing health. This is best done by 1. Removing accumulated fecal

material from the bowel; 2.... "

http://www.cleanse.net/mucoid_plaque.HTM

I'm trying to reconcile this with the reports from others (I think I read

one pathologist for instance) who say that colons are squeaky clean. Until

recently I pretty much thought squeaky clean was the norm, because a few

years ago my Chihuahua was impacted and I stuck my finger up there to get it

out, and was impressed with the fact that his colon was like a clean rubber

hose inside. Maybe that's because the bones in his food, which made very

hard poops, scraped it clean?

I really don't know. So, I'm very unclear on the discrepancy in reports of

encrusted impacted fecal matter and squeaky clean colons?

I also wonder if food gets stuck in the small intestine? Has anyone

autopsied small intestines to check? Certainly colonoscopies don't reach

that far up.

In the case of my " mucoid plaque " poop, I didn't get the impression that it

was impacted material, what concerned me about it was the odd shape. Mine

was even more sharply disc shaped than any of the photos I saw online.

<scratching head...>

>

>I'm not sure on the mucoid stuff ... I've been wondering if,

>in the absence of food, the gut starts producing more

>mucous, or if the mucous just SITS there because there

>isn't as much food moving through, or if it's somehow

>a combination of mucous plus psyllium, gall, or whatever

>that gloms onto the gut the comes loose as a unit.

Could be...

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From:

>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Robin Ann

>

>> Have you ever seen myconium, the first stool of a baby? It's

>> a lot like that ... really tarry and black. I don't know what

>> myconium is " made of " ... ingested amniotic fluid, bile,

>> saliva? Would a fasting grown up make something similar?

>> (only laced with bits of psyllium/bentonite or vegie broth or

>> whatever).

>>

>> -- Heidi

>

>That's a very interesting thought! hmmm... I'll have to get my sample

>off the wall and out of its picture frame...

Well, I'm outta luck cuz I bronzed mine.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

----------------------------

[Guest guest]

Deanna-

>What is this stuff? It may vary I'm sure, but Jafa

>and (?) say colonoscopies show clean bowels.

Yes, colonoscopies, performed after the administration of a laxative and

sometimes an enema, show clean, pink bowels -- except when they show red,

irritated intestinal linings, lesions, etc. But no feces glued to the

intestinal wall.

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[Guest guest]

Suze-

>On page 27, he reveals his experience in this

>matter. " One autopsy revealed a colon to be 9 inches in diameter with a

>passage through it no larger than a pencil.

Was the person administered a laxative before he died? If not, I don't see

why we should assume that he didn't just have some feces which would've

been vacated in the ordinary course of events if he hadn't died.

> The rest was caked up layer

>upon layer of encrusted fecal material. This accumulation can have the

>consistency of truck tire rubber. It's that hard and black.

I don't know what exactly happens in the colon after death, but I'm not

willing to generalize from a corpse to a living person. When was the

autopsy performed? Had the corpse been preserved? What did the person die

of? It's not like nobody ever develops serious gut problems, but while

these are supposed to be representative cases, I see no reason whatsoever

to believe they are.

>Another autopsy

>revealed a stagnant colon to weigh in at an incredible 40 pounds. Imagine

>carrying around all that morbid accumulated waste. "

The implication is that the colon was full of 40 pounds of waste, but is

that really true? Or were the intestines, including their contents,

weighed? How much do intestines ordinarily weigh?

> " According to the history of these persons, 285 had claimed they

>were not constipated and had normal movements and only 15 had admitted they

>were constipated. The autopsies showed the opposite to be the case,

>however, and only 15 were found not to have been constipated, while 285

>were found to have been constipated.

How did they determine that the dead people had been constipated?

> Some of the histories of these 285

>persons stated they had had as many as 5 or 6 bowel movements daily, yet

>autopsies revealed that in some of them the bowel was 12 inches in diameter.

One thing I do know about the bowels after death is that bacterial action

continues. Gut biota don't magically perish at the same moment as their

host. And one thing that happens is that those organisms generate lots of

gas, which could very possibly be responsible for distending the intestines

whose abnormal width is reported here.

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[Guest guest]

Deanna wrote:

>You know, a thought occurred to me about Heidi's meconium idea: Do

>breast fed babies and formula fed babies both expel meconium,

>

Yes. It is the accumulation of nutrients digested during the prenatal

development.

>and if so

>equally well?

>

No. Nothing that the baby can ingest can equal breastmilk.

>I understand it is the colostrum (fore milk if you will)

>

>

As a former LLLL candidate, I want to specify that fore milk and

colostrum are two different things, though colostrum does indeed appear

before a woman's milk comes in.

>that helps the baby get rid of this tarry goo.

>

Ingested nutrition of any type will expel the meconium, but artificial

breastmilk substitutes won't be as efficient as mother's milk.

>So if a baby never gets

>that, I suppose theoretically some of that might not get removed from

>the bowels. But I wouldn't know. I wonder how many folks with mucoid

>plaque were formula fed from the get go.

>

>

>

Oh, well, lacking breastmilk as a nutritional foundation sets a person

up for all kinds of digestive havoc. Everyone is a fan of kefir here,

so we know how important good gut bacteria is. Well, breastmilk is the

very first opportunity to seed the intestines with the right kind of

bacteria. Not to mention that an infant's intestines are coated with an

additional (my materials are up in the attic, so I'd rather not scare

up my resource books to give a cite on this that stays intact as long

as the sole food source is mother's milk. When food other than mother's

milk is introduced, this lining begins to disappear. This seems to

imply that early introduction of solids, as well as artificial

breastmilk substitutes of any sort, would begin the slippery slope

toward potential intestinal hyper permeability.

You may well be correct that mucoid plaque could be prevented by

breastfeeding instead of artificial breastmilk substitutes. That's

probably true for a lot of the health problems that are so rampant in

our culture. Which is why I'm always astonished when people on WAPF

style lists post about " healthy " formulas.....

--s, who also has counterculture opinions on how long a nursling should

breastfeed.

[Guest guest]

Idol wrote:

>Deanna-

>

>

>

>>What is this stuff? It may vary I'm sure, but Jafa

>>and (?) say colonoscopies show clean bowels.

>>

>>

>

>Yes, colonoscopies, performed after the administration of a laxative and

>sometimes an enema, show clean, pink bowels -- except when they show red,

>irritated intestinal linings, lesions, etc. But no feces glued to the

>intestinal wall.

>

>

>

>

It might be important to note that a gastroenterologist will not even

perform a colonoscopy unless the laxative has effected complete and

total evacuation. I know at least one person who was scheduled to

undergo the procedure and was postponed because evacuation was

incomplete. So it might not be significant that colonoscopies show

clean pathways, since 1) they won't proceed unless they are indeed clean

and 2) for some people, they are only clean with aggressive purging that

isn't representative of standard elimination.

--s

[Guest guest]

Suzanne-

>It might be important to note that a gastroenterologist will not even

>perform a colonoscopy unless the laxative has effected complete and

>total evacuation.

Yeah, but my understanding is that this is very rare. A friend recently

had a colonoscopy and inquired about this and other things.

>So it might not be significant that colonoscopies show

>clean pathways, since 1) they won't proceed unless they are indeed clean

>and 2) for some people, they are only clean with aggressive purging that

>isn't representative of standard elimination.

The point isn't that there are no feces in the digestive tract, just that a

quick bit of diarrhea purges just about everyone's bowels, indicating that

the notion of widespread and common impactions and feces glued to the

intestinal walls is a myth.

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