Re: Magnesium and taking clay internally

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> Hi

> I'm a newbie with a metabolic problem. I have been taking a teaspoon

> of French Green Argilitz clay internally for around a year plus

> regular bentonite baths. No improvement. I have just increased that

> to 3 tablespoons of Argilitz clay daily. Can I increase it further?

> will I eventually get constipated? Is there a limit? Is this

> discussed anywhere on the web?

>

> According to www.mgwater.com most of us are magnesium deficient and

> one of the reasons for increasing my clay intake is to allow myself

> to take more magnesium supplements. I know there is mg in clay but I

> dont think its sufficient for my metabolic problem.

>

> Any thoughts gratefully recieved.

>

> Healing thoughts,

> Wallace

Wallace,

If your metabolic problem is a fast metabolism I suggest you read The

Metabolic Typing Diet by Wolcott. There's explanation of magnesium's

contraindication to fast metabolisms. Calcium is better.

Wanita

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> If your metabolic problem is a fast metabolism I suggest you read The

> Metabolic Typing Diet by Wolcott. There's explanation

> of magnesium's

> contraindication to fast metabolisms. Calcium is better.

>

Yes, I was having the same thoughts when I read Wallace's original post.

He may be dietarily sabotaging himself.

Ron

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Wallace,

> I'm a newbie with a metabolic problem. I have been taking a teaspoon

> of French Green Argilitz clay internally for around a year plus

> regular bentonite baths. No improvement.

What is your metabolic problem and what improvement are you looking for?

Why to you think that increasing your magnesium levels will help? How do

you know if your magnesium levels are too low?

Ron

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>> If your metabolic problem is a fast metabolism I suggest you read The

>> Metabolic Typing Diet by Wolcott. There's explanation

>> of magnesium's

>> contraindication to fast metabolisms. Calcium is better.

>>

>

> Yes, I was having the same thoughts when I read Wallace's original post.

> He may be dietarily sabotaging himself.

>

Ron,

Yup! Did calcium/mag/zinc, multi mineral, magnesium alone even over years,

thinking all along magnesium deficiency with little reward. Calcium and

zinc, walla! Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a separate 250mg.

supplement. SAD processed foods loaded with it added in. Any ideas?

Wanita

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Hi

I have a slow metabolism. Fatigue etc. Keep the answers coming.

thanks for the respone. I have a mg problem, no doubt about it. I

have had little response to a Sally fallon diet.

Healing thoughts,

Wallace

- In , " Wanita Sears " <wanitawa@b...>

wrote:

> >> If your metabolic problem is a fast metabolism I suggest you

read The

> >> Metabolic Typing Diet by Wolcott. There's explanation

> >> of magnesium's

> >> contraindication to fast metabolisms. Calcium is better.

> >>

> >

> > Yes, I was having the same thoughts when I read Wallace's

original post.

> > He may be dietarily sabotaging himself.

> >

> Ron,

>

> Yup! Did calcium/mag/zinc, multi mineral, magnesium alone even over

years,

> thinking all along magnesium deficiency with little reward. Calcium

and

> zinc, walla! Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a separate

250mg.

> supplement. SAD processed foods loaded with it added in. Any ideas?

>

> Wanita

>

>

>

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Improper diet for any metabolism or metabolic type can create one disorder

in a few people. Metabolic typing will find different diets between the few

that relieve the same disorder. The causes and cures are not the same.

Example of 3 women from Biobalance: The Acid/Alkaline Solution to the

Food-Mood_Health Puzzle by Rudolf A. Wiley

What are you doing out of (NT)Nourishing Traditions? There are many

variations and adaptations between the people on this list? What was your

prior diet and how have you changed that going to NT?

All food for thought if nothing else.

Wanita

> Hi

>

> I have a slow metabolism. Fatigue etc. Keep the answers coming.

> thanks for the respone. I have a mg problem, no doubt about it. I

> have had little response to a Sally fallon diet.

>

> Healing thoughts,

> Wallace

> - In , " Wanita Sears " <wanitawa@b...>

> wrote:

>> >> If your metabolic problem is a fast metabolism I suggest you

> read The

>> >> Metabolic Typing Diet by Wolcott. There's explanation

>> >> of magnesium's

>> >> contraindication to fast metabolisms. Calcium is better.

>> >>

>> >

>> > Yes, I was having the same thoughts when I read Wallace's

> original post.

>> > He may be dietarily sabotaging himself.

>> >

>> Ron,

>>

>> Yup! Did calcium/mag/zinc, multi mineral, magnesium alone even over

> years,

>> thinking all along magnesium deficiency with little reward. Calcium

> and

>> zinc, walla! Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a separate

> 250mg.

>> supplement. SAD processed foods loaded with it added in. Any ideas?

>>

>> Wanita

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Hi Wallace,

> I have a slow metabolism. Fatigue etc. Keep the answers coming.

> thanks for the respone. I have a mg problem, no doubt about it. I

> have had little response to a Sally fallon diet.

>

I am _so_ not an expert here, but I do have experiences that are similar to

what you are describing. My guess is that your magnesium problem is a

symptom and that it is probably a waste of time to be trying to fix it with

supplements. For some reason your body is not processing magnesium

correctly and your best bet would be to find a nutritional path that will

help you heal along with a course of detoxes that will rid your body of the

accumulated toxicity you have accrued over the years. I have been detoxing

both involuntarily and by choice since September of 2001 and am just now

reaching a level of physical and mental health that I consider to be

tolerable. Knowing what I know now I'm sure that I could have increased the

speed of this process, but the fact is that it can take a fair amount of

time for your body to rid itself of past damage and heal up. There is a lot

of trial and error. If you aren't seeing change then you have to do

something different, right?

Ron

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Hi Wanita,

> Yup! Did calcium/mag/zinc, multi mineral, magnesium alone

> even over years,

> thinking all along magnesium deficiency with little reward.

> Calcium and

> zinc, walla! Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a

> separate 250mg.

> supplement. SAD processed foods loaded with it added in. Any ideas?

In a word, no. :-) But let me qualify that by saying that I've given up on

trying to balance my mineral levels with supplements for the time being.

My story is pretty long and involved and I don't have time to write up the

whole thing here but let me just summarize by saying that I got my first

indication that I had mineral deficiencies from a hair test ordered up by my

chiropractor in mid-2003. He put me on supplements that made no difference.

The next step in the process was a visit to Dr. Mercola's office in December

of 2003. He had me tested for my metabolic type (hard protein) and based on

his reading of a new hair test put me on some very high quality mineral

supplements that also made no difference after many months. For several

reasons I stopped working with Dr. Mercola and have been on my own path

since about May of 2004. I have been struggling somewhat with making and

eating the correct food choices since that time. I think my mineral

imbalances are a symptom of a more fundamental problem and have been trying

to figure out the nutritional and detox/cleansing path to correcting that

problem. That is what lead me to WAP and the NN/NT style of eating in the

fall of 2004.

So all of that to say that, for now, I'm not supplementing very much and am

really trying to do some heavy detoxing while finding the foods that are

correct for me and allowing my body to heal itself over the next year or so.

After I have gotten to some currently undetermined place of understanding I

will look again at my mineral levels and figure out where to go from there.

Ron

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> So all of that to say that, for now, I'm not supplementing very much

and am

> really trying to do some heavy detoxing while finding the foods that are

> correct for me and allowing my body to heal itself over the next

year or so.

Hey Ron,

If it's not too personal, and you have the time: what kind of heavy

detoxing are you doing, man, and/or what have you found to be the most

helpful?

B.

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There is a technique called Applied Kinesiology. Reportedly it allows

you to test substances such as foods, vitamins, minerals or anything

to find out if they are helpful or harmful to your well-being. It's a

simple test that uses your muscle strength as an indicator.

Here are some links to books on the subject. Take a look, it might

help.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446358479/myfacepage-20

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1557782814/myfacepage-20

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0934252688/myfacepage-20

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556433743/myfacepage-20

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892813288/myfacepage-20

> Hi Wallace,

>

> > I have a slow metabolism. Fatigue etc. Keep the answers

coming.

> > thanks for the respone. I have a mg problem, no doubt about it.

I

> > have had little response to a Sally fallon diet.

> >

>

> I am _so_ not an expert here, but I do have experiences that are

similar to

> what you are describing. My guess is that your magnesium problem

is a

> symptom and that it is probably a waste of time to be trying to fix

it with

> supplements. For some reason your body is not processing magnesium

> correctly and your best bet would be to find a nutritional path

that will

> help you heal along with a course of detoxes that will rid your

body of the

> accumulated toxicity you have accrued over the years. I have been

detoxing

> both involuntarily and by choice since September of 2001 and am

just now

> reaching a level of physical and mental health that I consider to be

> tolerable. Knowing what I know now I'm sure that I could have

increased the

> speed of this process, but the fact is that it can take a fair

amount of

> time for your body to rid itself of past damage and heal up. There

is a lot

> of trial and error. If you aren't seeing change then you have to do

> something different, right?

>

> Ron

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Wanita-

>Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a separate 250mg.

>supplement.

Sodium monophosphate, maybe? The Perfect Prescription tooth soap people

recommend it, anyway, at the rate of 1/4g per 40# body weight.

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,

>>Phosphorus is needed too. Can't find it as a separate 250mg.

>>supplement.

>

> Sodium monophosphate, maybe? The Perfect Prescription tooth soap people

> recommend it, anyway, at the rate of 1/4g per 40# body weight.

>

The phosphate part is kind of scary, thinking of phosphates in detergents.

Will look into it.

Wanita

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