On pleasure

[Guest guest]

So then it's not so much that pleasure = suffering, but that

pleasure--when we polarize it as the opposite of pain--creates

suffering.

Question: What *is* pleasure?

It's like the attachment Tom or or someone was responding to

me about after my effing worksheet the other day. When i'm attached

to wanting to be happy then it's painful. When i'm just happy it's

wonderful--no pain until a thought appears about wanting to hold on

to that. When i experience pleasure i'm not suffering, unless i'm

looking for pleasure and trying to hang onto it when i have it, out

of fear of experiencing the pain again.

Yes?

Heidi

> > >

> > > You see, the two opposites of Pain and Pleasure are tied

together

> > > like " light and dark " or " up and down " . They require one

another

> > > inorder to appear to exist. In reality, Level One, neither

one

> > > exists.

> >

> > I agree - great definitions Steve. But when you are living in a

> level

> > one reality which is the end of all suffering - for me I would

> define

> > that as the pleasure that has no opposite because by definition

it

> is

> > the end of all suffering - This is what I think is

referring

> to

> > when she says when you discover what lives inside you - no

person,

> no

> > dog, no thing outside will compare except serve as a _____

> (catalyst)

> > to take you deeper into that.