Re: Jan....treating adrenals

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I told Dr Cohen I was on hydrocortisone and he seemed puzzled. Even though he was the one who did the adrenal saliva test. Then he told me the only way to really know is with an ACTH test??? ?Can you comment?>>

Steph

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Did you ever get an appointment with Dr. Ozan? Or is Dr. Marcos running these tests? Not very many folks have to have surgery for adrenal tumors. Most often adrenal fatigue is just that: fatigue. No physical change in the adrenal glands, no tumors, just fatigue. The 24-hour urine is not very good for detecting adrenal fatigue. It shows almost everyone to be normal. 8 am and 4 pm cortisol blood tests or even saliva tests will tell you more. Unless you are one of the very few who have tumors, the treatment is physiologic doses of hydrocortisone. If you want to learn more, get the book: The Safe Uses of Cortisol. There is a link to the publisher on our site. cowgirlgrams wrote: Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my

body), homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to treat the different adrenal issues?

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I know I'm not Jan but a salvia test is a better test. The blood is only

checking for Cushing's or 's. If you don't have those but have

adrenal fatigue they will miss it. Just my two cents.

Kate

At 08:44 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

>Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be

>in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal

>fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They

>took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein

>(because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my body),

>homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any

>tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but

>what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to

>treat the different adrenal issues?

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You are absolutely 100% right about the standard blood tests Kate! Those

ranges are ONLY geared for the most deadly end of either situation, and

that's why (when I DO get them done) it will be the saliva tests. From

everything I've read every single place, I would trust the saliva tests more

than any blood test for this.

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> I know I'm not Jan but a salvia test is a better test. The blood is only

> checking for Cushing's or 's. If you don't have those but have

> adrenal fatigue they will miss it. Just my two cents.

>

> Kate

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The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full amt of

what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's been going

on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and valleys at all.

I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this, but they

do.

Jan....treating adrenals

> Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be

> in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal

> fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They

> took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein

> (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my body),

> homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any

> tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but

> what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to

> treat the different adrenal issues?

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Exactly! If you are low in the am as most adrenal fatigue people are, you

will be told you are " normal " .

Kate

At 05:32 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

>The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full amt of

>what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's been going

>on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and valleys at all.

>I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this, but they

>do.

>

>

>

> Jan....treating adrenals

>

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> > Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be

> > in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal

> > fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They

> > took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein

> > (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my body),

> > homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any

> > tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but

> > what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to

> > treat the different adrenal issues?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I really do not know much about the ACTH test.sle816@... wrote: I told Dr Cohen I was on hydrocortisone and he seemed puzzled. Even though he was the one who did the adrenal saliva test. Then he told me the only way to really know is with an ACTH test??? ?Can you comment?>> Steph

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Not if the doc really knows what he is doing.Kate Guynn wrote: Exactly! If you are low in the am as most adrenal fatigue people are, you will be told you are "normal".KateAt 05:32 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:>The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full amt of>what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's been going>on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and valleys at all.>I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this, but they>do.>>>> Jan....treating adrenals>>> > Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be> > in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal> > fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They> > took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein> > (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my body),> > homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any> > tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but> > what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to> > treat the different adrenal issues?

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Great...I am doing the 24 hour urine collection right now. Had to

take it to the emergency room with me today and they put it on ice

for me since it had to be refrigerated. I didn't want to waste the

time in doing what I had already done so took it with me today incase

I had to stay in the hospital. And wanted to get the results back.

My head feels like it is so much full of air type feeling and wants

to explode. I think I am going to have quite a time with the

dizziness during the night. It's been hard trying to get up in the

middle of the night to use the bathroom without falling over. During

the day I am just light headed and not dizzy where the room is

spinning. I can hardly cope with this. More later....

> >The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full

amt of

> >what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's

been going

> >on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and

valleys at all.

> >I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this,

but they

> >do.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jan....treating adrenals

> >

> >

> > > Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I

won't be

> > > in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or

adrenal

> > > fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today.

They

> > > took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive

protein

> > > (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my

body),

> > > homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have

any

> > > tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the

tumors....but

> > > what other treatments are there and what do you find the best

way to

> > > treat the different adrenal issues?

>

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To me, this sounds like an inner ear problem. I've had all the

vertigo/dizziness/nausea/falling over and such from coming up from a lying

or sitting position only to hit the floor. The position changes are so

nauseating. I went on and one like that for weeks and weeks, can you

believe. It started one morning when I got out of bed, and I have the

permanent earringing. Do you have the earringing, can't remember whether

that was you or not?

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> Great...I am doing the 24 hour urine collection right now. Had to

> take it to the emergency room with me today and they put it on ice

> for me since it had to be refrigerated. I didn't want to waste the

> time in doing what I had already done so took it with me today incase

> I had to stay in the hospital. And wanted to get the results back.

> My head feels like it is so much full of air type feeling and wants

> to explode. I think I am going to have quite a time with the

> dizziness during the night. It's been hard trying to get up in the

> middle of the night to use the bathroom without falling over. During

> the day I am just light headed and not dizzy where the room is

> spinning. I can hardly cope with this. More later....

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Jan, we were talking about the 24 hour urine test. That test will not show

the highs and lows, just average. If you are low in the am and " normal " in

the afternoon the average will be normal. I'm talking about the majority

of doctors not the 1-2% that know what they are doing. Those won't use the

urine test.

Kate

At 09:51 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

>Not if the doc really knows what he is doing.

>

>Kate Guynn wrote:

>Exactly! If you are low in the am as most adrenal fatigue people are, you

>will be told you are " normal " .

>

>Kate

>

>

>At 05:32 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

> >The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full amt of

> >what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's been going

> >on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and valleys at all.

> >I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this, but they

> >do.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jan....treating adrenals

> >

> >

> > > Jan, What is the best way to go about treating adrenals so I won't be

> > > in the dark if I do have adrenal problems be it tumors or adrenal

> > > fatique? I am doing the 24 hour urine collection test today. They

> > > took blood work yesterday for cortisol levels, C-reactive protein

> > > (because of the heart pounding and burning sensation in my body),

> > > homosysteine, cbc. They said they are testing to see if have any

> > > tumors on my adrenals. Treating that is removing the tumors....but

> > > what other treatments are there and what do you find the best way to

> > > treat the different adrenal issues?

>

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I agree that the 24 hour urine test is useless. A doc who understands adrenal issues can use just an 8 am cortisol and information gathered by talking to the patient to diagnose and treat.Kate Guynn wrote: Jan, we were talking about the 24 hour urine test. That test will not show the highs and lows, just average. If you are low in the am and "normal" in the afternoon the average will be normal. I'm talking about the majority of doctors not the 1-2% that know what they are doing. Those won't use the urine test.KateAt 09:51 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:>Not if

the doc really knows what he is doing.>>Kate Guynn wrote:>Exactly! If you are low in the am as most adrenal fatigue people are, you>will be told you are "normal".>>Kate>>>At 05:32 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:> >The 24 hr urine test for this problem is only going to show a full amt of> >what's been going on, altogether, over a 24 hr period, not what's been going> >on at specific times. It won't show highs, lows, peeks, and valleys at all.> >I can't even believe that doctors still use this testing for this, but they> >do.> >> >

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I have tinnitis due to exposure to loud noises. She could very well have an inner ear problem. wrote: To me, this sounds like an inner ear problem. I've had all thevertigo/dizziness/nausea/falling over and such from coming up from a lyingor sitting position only to hit the floor. The position changes are sonauseating. I went on and one like that for weeks and weeks, can youbelieve. It started one morning when I got out of bed, and I have thepermanent earringing. Do you have the earringing, can't remember whetherthat was you or

not? Re: Jan....treating adrenals> Great...I am doing the 24 hour urine collection right now. Had to> take it to the emergency room with me today and they put it on ice> for me since it had to be refrigerated. I didn't want to waste the> time in doing what I had already done so took it with me today incase> I had to stay in the hospital. And wanted to get the results back.> My head feels like it is so much full of air type feeling and wants> to explode. I think I am going to have quite a time with the> dizziness during the night. It's been hard trying to get up in the> middle of the night to use the bathroom without falling over. During> the

day I am just light headed and not dizzy where the room is> spinning. I can hardly cope with this. More later....

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The trouble with the blood tests, though, is that if a doctor doesn't understand the difference between 's, adrenal fatigue, and Cushing's, then if that thing comes up in "normal" range, a person won't get treated. Dr. understands this, but soooo many see it only as an either or thing.

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I agree that the 24 hour urine test is useless.

A doc who understands adrenal issues can use just an 8 am cortisol and information gathered by talking to the patient to diagnose and treat.

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Most docs just flat will not Rx cortisone, because they are afraid of it. If they do not understand how to use it, it is better that they do not Rx it. wrote: The trouble with the blood tests, though, is that if a doctor doesn't understand the difference between 's, adrenal fatigue, and Cushing's, then if that thing comes up in "normal" range, a person won't get treated. Dr. understands this, but soooo many see it only as an either or thing. Re: Jan....treating adrenals I agree that the 24 hour urine test is useless.

A doc who understands adrenal issues can use just an 8 am cortisol and information gathered by talking to the patient to diagnose and treat.

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Which leads me to say it is the ONLY profession where the service giver doesn't have to know his/her stuff in order to make money. Plus it is the only profession where the customer generally accepts this, pays for the services they didn't get, and then turns around and goes back for more! Ridiculous, ALways ridiculous, I won't budge on this.

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Most docs just flat will not Rx cortisone, because they are afraid of it. If they do not understand how to use it, it is better that they do not Rx it.