Hello

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

I have been lurking only as of late..I have to confess that I was down w/ the

flu and have not worked out in over 1week, this is the first lapse in my

routine since July..Although I enjoyed the break I also went thru some guilty

feelings and along with that the major fear that I was putting back on all

the weight and fat that I had lost..Imagine that..being able to put it all

back on in just a week..the mind is a funny thing..anyways the other thing I

noticed is my mood..especially since its winter and I'm already bummed and

tired of the cold..the lack of working out also depleted my energy even more

and I found myself being crabby..so anyways..long story short..I set my goal

to start getting back into my workout routine today (monday) so am hoping to

head to my workout room and just do a basic 30min so so I know I am back on

the right path again..I am also looking forward to getting back into my

better eating habits..although I didn't totally fall off the " eat right "

wagon..I definitely had moments..like last night where I almost polished off

a bag of toffee popcorn all by myself..ok, so there it is my " confession " ..I

hope I can get back into it now..especially w/ summer coming and especially

to help me feel better..so here goes..

Take care everyone..also, anyone else been in this position..what did you do

to remotivate yourself?

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hey Temera,

I wish you good luck with this, but you know, I think that you will

get your condition well very soon. Somebody told me once that muscles

have a memory and that they remember were you stopped training, so

that when you start again a couple of weeks later, it isn't so

difficult anymore.

Love, h

[Guest guest]

Tamera,

A few things - I have no clue what TOPS is but the scale is NOT an acurate judge

if you are doing TaeBo. I lost 12 pounds right away but have since GAINED back

8 of that. I KNOW I am not fatter - it's muscle. Have you measured yourself?

That's what I go by. I use centimeters also so the more minute changes are seen

:-)

As far as the stiffness - that will go away. I did TaeBo for a week, pulled a

muscle or something and couldn't walk so I waited 10 days. When I started again

I was stiff an had lost what I gained. After just a few days it was back! Don't

fret!

Amy M.

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Anyway, I am giving myself a new challenge and that is instead of a

> 21 day challenge, I am doing a 10 day challenge. So, Feb. 26th will

be the last day of that one

> Temera

Temera,

I am sorry you are having such a tough time right now! I think a 10

day challenge is a great idea. I have always had mixed feeling about

the 21 day challenge, even though I have done a few myself. On one

hand, I understand wanting to make exercise a habit. On the other

hand, I hate that some people tend to feel like " failures " if

they " only " make it to day 15, for example. I think setting smaller

goals is a great idea and will help you stay motivated!

[Guest guest]

>

> Take care everyone..also, anyone else been in this position..what

did you do

> to remotivate yourself?

Kathy,

I have been in that position four hundered million times, lol! I get

my motivation back slowly. Start with today. Do your workout. Don't

worry about tomorrow until tomorrow. That always helps me. I focus on

eating right and working out just for today. Then tomorrow, focus on

that day. Pretty soon you will be on a roll again

who is back on track after a week of being VERY off thanks

to a bunch of valentine's goodies!

[Guest guest]

> I am still doing much better

> than Jan. Anyway, I am giving myself a new challenge and that is

instead of a

> 21 day challenge, I am doing a 10 day challenge. So, Feb. 26th will

be the

> last day of that one.

Temera,

I'm sorry you had a rough week last week! Try not to get too down

about it, though! Things happen in our life that make it impossible

to workout sometimes. The important thing is that you got right back

into it! A week of not working out isn't going to hurt you in the

long run I know it SEEMS much harder this time around after

taking a week off, but it will get easier again much more quickly!

Hang in there! I'm sorry you are so discouraged with TOPS. If it is

making you feel more miserable than I would suggest you quit. But, if

it's helping you keep your eating in control, then I would stick with

it! I know it's frustrating when the scale doesn't cooperate with

us, but if you stick with it and keep doing what you are doing...you

WILL see changes! They just take longer to " see " with some people.

You can do it

[Guest guest]

> Although I enjoyed the break I also went thru some guilty

> feelings and along with that the major fear that I was putting back

on all

> the weight and fat that I had lost..Imagine that..being able to put

it all

> back on in just a week..the mind is a funny thing

Kathy,

I'm sorry you were sick! I wouldn't look at this as a lapse

necessarily! You were sick and you had to let your body heal! There's

a difference I know it's hard not to get stressed out about not

being able to workout, but you've just got to listen to your body and

not your mind sometimes! Good luck getting back into your routine

Take it easy and ease back into it! You'll do fine It's nice to

see you around here again....don't be a stranger

[Guest guest]

thanks shannon!!!

Temera

[Guest guest]

thanks shannon!!!

Temera

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/31/01 9:21:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

pat95471@... writes:

> Hi everyone,my name is Pat, and I am new to this group, and somewhat

> new to groups period. I have had Lupus/fibro for 23 years now. I

> started a website last year, and it has proved to be one of the best

> treatments I have found. Unfortunately the upkeep on the site has

> taken most of my computer time so I have not explored groups, lists,

> etc.

Pat,

welcome~

What is your web site address? My wife has also had Lupus/Fibro/Leg

Ulcers/Lumphasema/you-name it -

It has been soooooooooooo tough for her.

I have Fibro and Lymphadema.

My wife did the same thing in creating a web page it is located at -

http://members.aol.com/gini4jesus/index.html

I pray it is a blessing to you.

4Logos

In the begining was the Word (Logos) and the Word (Logos) was with God and

the Word (Logos) was God.

[Guest guest]

Hi ... I have same things and more! Too long a list! I can say for certain,

" I feel for you! "

Always,

cloud

Hello,

My name is . I was just told I tested positive for RA. I also have OA

of the spine. I welcome and hope to give support to anyone in my situation.

Sincerely,

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Welcome, I have FM and Osteo. All who are here can be of help in some way so

you too take all the support you want.

Terry M

[Guest guest]

Dear Annie,

take a look at this website:

http://www.stressdynamics.com

they have a page on pain management which might be of

use to you. Additionally, they sell products which

might help decrease you perceptions of pain and

augment your pain medicine's effectiveness.

Good luck!

--- ann harcleroad wrote:

> Hello,

> My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as a

> school bus driver for 21 years. I have been

> suffering

> with chronic pain for several years now. I had disc

> surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds

> of

> my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which I

> have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery has

> created degenerative arthritis. Because of my

> stomach

> and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> medications that are used for arthritis. The doctor

> started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works but

> my pain has been increasing. I have read some of

> your

> letters on the bulletin board and there are so many

> people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need

> to

> share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't gain

> much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that it

> won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor

> are

> working with me so that I can safely drive. I am an

> optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but

> there

> are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> understands what it is like. Thank you for

> listening. Annie

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The bacteria is called Helicobacter Pylori. It found in some but not all ulcers.

If you go to the Reader's Digest site and do a search, They had an article about

it several years ago. (I do research on horse stomach ulcers. No such thing as

H. Equii though)

Jami

" dianne hayter " wrote:

>ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO, they discovered that ulcers were caused by

>bacteria(forget the name, but you can have a blood test to see if you have

>it, and then take a long course of antibiotics,) it has nothing to do with

>stress,etc. like they thought.

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Dear Annie,

I don't know if I posted here about my recent break through but

your letter reminded me. I am a teacher but stopped teaching when my

X left me with 4 little ones five years ago then three years ago I

was in a car crash and my foot was crushed and have chronic pain

since then, the accident that is. I have wanted to get back to

teaching but being on pain meds made me nervous but this list and Ray

the list manager have helped me overcome some of that.

Three weeks ago I subbed. It was my first time in the classroom in

4 years. It went great. And it was a good day pain wise. A week later

I was called again but was having a not so good day but still I

managed the class while using my meds. I don't advertise my medical

condition and get more consideration as a single parent than a

disabled one. Sometimes they ask me how do I do it and I have to

smile inside since they only know half the story. Welcome aboard. Al

> Hello,

> My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as a

> school bus driver for 21 years. I have been suffering

> with chronic pain for several years now. I had disc

> surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds of

> my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which I

> have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery has

> created degenerative arthritis. Because of my stomach

> and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> medications that are used for arthritis. The doctor

> started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works but

> my pain has been increasing. I have read some of your

> letters on the bulletin board and there are so many

> people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need to

> share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't gain

> much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that it

> won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor are

> working with me so that I can safely drive. I am an

> optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but there

> are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> understands what it is like. Thank you for listening. Annie

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

dianne ,

Thank you for answerering my e-mail. The doctors

have traced my ulcers back to taking alot of headache

medications,aspirin to my ulcers. I,m not really

depressed. I just get tired of dealing with it . When

I lost the weight from the stomach surgery, I became

anemic. My iron would have to be replaced with inferon

infusions. I get very tired but I have learned to pace

myself and take naps. A lady I know started me on km.

This is a herbal potassium supplememt. That was 4

years ago. It helps alot. I don,t get as sick and I

haven,t had to have an infusion for 2 years. I have

been on zoloft but it would make me more tired. There

has been an advertisement for a chronic pain study

especially back pain. I was considering that. Please

let me know what you think. I am also looking for

something that will help me gain weight. I can,t drink

anything with milk. Thank you again. Annie

--- dianne hayter wrote:

> ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO, they discovered that ulcers were

> caused by

> bacteria(forget the name, but you can have a blood

> test to see if you have

> it, and then take a long course of antibiotics,) it

> has nothing to do with

> stress,etc. like they thought. second thought, i

> would recommend that you

> go to a pain clinic. you are taking short acting

> medications, and will soon

> xdevelop a tolerance. they won't work after awhile,

> or you have to take

> more. pain clinics usually order long acting meds,

> like oxycontin,

> morphycontin,duragesic patch etc. that last 8-12

> hours, and keep a steady

> level in your blood stream, so there are little or

> no peaks and valleys in

> your pain level. with the ulcer, you could take them

> by patch, pump, or

> rectally. you sound depressed(we are all after a

> decade or so of proloonged

> suffering). ssri anti-depressants helped me a lot.

> being anurse, i didn't

> want to take anything, even if i do have a " reactive

> depression " . prozac

> and paxil were the best for me. prozac gives me

> energy and less brain fog,

> and weight loss. paxil is somewhat sedating(depends

> on dose), but there are

> other new drugs that help. sorry if i sound like a

> drug pusher, but

> medication has given me back a quality of life(i

> spent 6 years in bed).

> presently going to college 2-3 hours/day, 4 days a

> work. i no longer stay

> in pajamas, i wear makeup, died my hair pink purple

> and wine(black

> underneath-was in the toronto star paper last

> saturday! my way of not

> wanting to turn 50. kids at school think i;m early

> 30's.

> thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, apart from

> the value of living a

> spiritually guided life, a good support system, of

> friends, ng, drs.

> therapist, physio,etc. it a definite must. " normie "

> get tired of hearing

> about pain and suffering and stop calling. hugs

> sunshine

> hello

>

>

> > Hello,

> > My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> > mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as

> a

> > school bus driver for 21 years. I have been

> suffering

> > with chronic pain for several years now. I had

> disc

> > surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds

> of

> > my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which

> I

> > have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery

> has

> > created degenerative arthritis. Because of my

> stomach

> > and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> > medications that are used for arthritis. The

> doctor

> > started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> > tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works

> but

> > my pain has been increasing. I have read some of

> your

> > letters on the bulletin board and there are so

> many

> > people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need

> to

> > share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> > about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't

> gain

> > much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that

> it

> > won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor

> are

> > working with me so that I can safely drive. I am

> an

> > optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but

> there

> > are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> > understands what it is like. Thank you for

> listening. Annie

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Al,

Thank you for your reply.ou are having a very bad

time and I commend you. I am glad you were able to try

working again. Good luck. I don,t advertise my health

very much but the people I work with know what I have

been going through and they are very supportive. Annie

--- al.rosenberg@... wrote:

> Dear Annie,

> I don't know if I posted here about my recent

> break through but

> your letter reminded me. I am a teacher but stopped

> teaching when my

> X left me with 4 little ones five years ago then

> three years ago I

> was in a car crash and my foot was crushed and have

> chronic pain

> since then, the accident that is. I have wanted to

> get back to

> teaching but being on pain meds made me nervous but

> this list and Ray

> the list manager have helped me overcome some of

> that.

> Three weeks ago I subbed. It was my first time in

> the classroom in

> 4 years. It went great. And it was a good day pain

> wise. A week later

> I was called again but was having a not so good day

> but still I

> managed the class while using my meds. I don't

> advertise my medical

> condition and get more consideration as a single

> parent than a

> disabled one. Sometimes they ask me how do I do it

> and I have to

> smile inside since they only know half the story.

> Welcome aboard. Al

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hello,

> > My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> > mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as

> a

> > school bus driver for 21 years. I have been

> suffering

> > with chronic pain for several years now. I had

> disc

> > surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds

> of

> > my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which

> I

> > have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery

> has

> > created degenerative arthritis. Because of my

> stomach

> > and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> > medications that are used for arthritis. The

> doctor

> > started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> > tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works

> but

> > my pain has been increasing. I have read some of

> your

> > letters on the bulletin board and there are so

> many

> > people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need

> to

> > share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> > about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't

> gain

> > much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that

> it

> > won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor

> are

> > working with me so that I can safely drive. I am

> an

> > optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but

> there

> > are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> > understands what it is like. Thank you for

> listening. Annie

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO, they discovered that ulcers were caused by

bacteria(forget the name, but you can have a blood test to see if you have

it, and then take a long course of antibiotics,) it has nothing to do with

stress,etc. like they thought. second thought, i would recommend that you

go to a pain clinic. you are taking short acting medications, and will soon

xdevelop a tolerance. they won't work after awhile, or you have to take

more. pain clinics usually order long acting meds, like oxycontin,

morphycontin,duragesic patch etc. that last 8-12 hours, and keep a steady

level in your blood stream, so there are little or no peaks and valleys in

your pain level. with the ulcer, you could take them by patch, pump, or

rectally. you sound depressed(we are all after a decade or so of proloonged

suffering). ssri anti-depressants helped me a lot. being anurse, i didn't

want to take anything, even if i do have a " reactive depression " . prozac

and paxil were the best for me. prozac gives me energy and less brain fog,

and weight loss. paxil is somewhat sedating(depends on dose), but there are

other new drugs that help. sorry if i sound like a drug pusher, but

medication has given me back a quality of life(i spent 6 years in bed).

presently going to college 2-3 hours/day, 4 days a work. i no longer stay

in pajamas, i wear makeup, died my hair pink purple and wine(black

underneath-was in the toronto star paper last saturday! my way of not

wanting to turn 50. kids at school think i;m early 30's.

thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, apart from the value of living a

spiritually guided life, a good support system, of friends, ng, drs.

therapist, physio,etc. it a definite must. " normie " get tired of hearing

about pain and suffering and stop calling. hugs sunshine

hello

> Hello,

> My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as a

> school bus driver for 21 years. I have been suffering

> with chronic pain for several years now. I had disc

> surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds of

> my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which I

> have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery has

> created degenerative arthritis. Because of my stomach

> and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> medications that are used for arthritis. The doctor

> started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works but

> my pain has been increasing. I have read some of your

> letters on the bulletin board and there are so many

> people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need to

> share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't gain

> much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that it

> won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor are

> working with me so that I can safely drive. I am an

> optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but there

> are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> understands what it is like. Thank you for listening. Annie

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you Al! The less people know, the better. Just because you've become

ill doesn't mean you've forgotten everything you learned as a teacher. Even

well people need to rest now and again. But if you tell them you need to rest

or something because of an illness, you get labled as not being able to do the

job any longer--even though you can. Keep fudging as long as you can and enjoy

those kids(yours and the class).

Peggy

al.rosenberg@... wrote:

Dear Annie,

I don't know if I posted here about my recent break through but

your letter reminded me.

Today is the first day of the rest of my life.......

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

i would suggest some of the highprotein, or body building drinks(i am not

that knowledgeable. the idea is high calorie in a soft or fluid for.

hmm//sounds like hagaendaz time to me!(ice-cream). many health stores are

helpful, and your dr. will send you to a nutritionalist if you want. i live

in canada so this is covered. hugs sunshine

hello

> >

> >

> > > Hello,

> > > My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married and

> > > mother of 4 adult children. I have been worhing as

> > a

> > > school bus driver for 21 years. I have been

> > suffering

> > > with chronic pain for several years now. I had

> > disc

> > > surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have 2/3rds

> > of

> > > my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines which

> > I

> > > have had since I was a child. The spinal surgery

> > has

> > > created degenerative arthritis. Because of my

> > stomach

> > > and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't take

> > > medications that are used for arthritis. The

> > doctor

> > > started me on darvacet but later switched me to

> > > tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine works

> > but

> > > my pain has been increasing. I have read some of

> > your

> > > letters on the bulletin board and there are so

> > many

> > > people so much worse than I am. I just felt a need

> > to

> > > share a part of my problems with someone. I weigh

> > > about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I can't

> > gain

> > > much. I try to take my medicine carefully so that

> > it

> > > won't effect my driving. My employer and my doctor

> > are

> > > working with me so that I can safely drive. I am

> > an

> > > optimist and I don,t let it get to me often, but

> > there

> > > are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> > > understands what it is like. Thank you for

> > listening. Annie

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

H. piloria or something like that is the bacteria that causes some stomach

ulcers.

[Guest guest]

Dear Diane,

Thank you for your suggestions. My ulcers are

from excessive aspirin for migraines. I have tried the

protein drinks but most of them are terrible. I can,t

have milk products or I would have milkshakes all of

the time. I can eat alittle of yogurt ice cream. Thank

you again. Ann

--- dianne hayter wrote:

> i would suggest some of the highprotein, or body

> building drinks(i am not

> that knowledgeable. the idea is high calorie in a

> soft or fluid for.

> hmm//sounds like hagaendaz time to me!(ice-cream).

> many health stores are

> helpful, and your dr. will send you to a

> nutritionalist if you want. i live

> in canada so this is covered. hugs sunshine

> hello

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > My name is annie. I am 54 years old,married

> and

> > > > mother of 4 adult children. I have been

> worhing as

> > > a

> > > > school bus driver for 21 years. I have been

> > > suffering

> > > > with chronic pain for several years now. I had

> > > disc

> > > > surgery over 20 years ago and I had to have

> 2/3rds

> > > of

> > > > my stomach removed. I suffer from migraines

> which

> > > I

> > > > have had since I was a child. The spinal

> surgery

> > > has

> > > > created degenerative arthritis. Because of my

> > > stomach

> > > > and because I have a bleeding ulcer, I can't

> take

> > > > medications that are used for arthritis. The

> > > doctor

> > > > started me on darvacet but later switched me

> to

> > > > tylenol #3. For the most part the medicine

> works

> > > but

> > > > my pain has been increasing. I have read some

> of

> > > your

> > > > letters on the bulletin board and there are so

> > > many

> > > > people so much worse than I am. I just felt a

> need

> > > to

> > > > share a part of my problems with someone. I

> weigh

> > > > about 106 pounds. Because of my stomach I

> can't

> > > gain

> > > > much. I try to take my medicine carefully so

> that

> > > it

> > > > won't effect my driving. My employer and my

> doctor

> > > are

> > > > working with me so that I can safely drive. I

> am

> > > an

> > > > optimist and I don,t let it get to me often,

> but

> > > there

> > > > are times. I would love to talk to someone who

> > > > understands what it is like. Thank you for

> > > listening. Annie

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

take care, and have a good holiday was supposed to be the last word

there...not sure what happened : )

> Just checking in, we are currently sans computer! I am using a

> friend's computer here and there until ours is fixed, a pricey

> proposition... we have a burned out mother board. The guy who is

> repairing it asked if we were struck by lightning it was so bad, but

> no, apparently it's due to DUST bunnies in our tower! The fan sucks

> the air in to cool the computer and we live in an old victorian

> building separated into apartments, it's very dusty. First that

virus

> now this larger issue. I was so surprised this happened because the

> biggest thing we were worried about was a virus and we had all the

> software updated. This is very common apparently oh well. Anyway we

> are getting a whole new board and also more memory. I am not sure

when

> we will be back online ourselves because the main concern right now

is

> paying for my doctor's appointment that is coming up in January.

Hope

> to see you all again soon regularly and read all that I've missed,

> I'll have alot of catching up.

[Guest guest]

I wondered where you'd disappeared to !! Good luck on getting your

computer fixed - we just went through this a couple of months ago. My

husband's computer finally bit the dust (and it was mostly because of the

same type of problems that you have, but he exacerbated his by taking the

cover off the tower to do something with it and then leaving it off in a

house full of dusty parrots and furry dogs!). We had to save up for

several months (and he had to go computerless for that time) to get

together the almost $500 it took to replace everything that was messed up

in it. It ended up needing a new motherboard, new floppy drive, his CD-ROM

was messed up, modem, he wanted a new bigger hard drive - we basically

ended up rebuilding the whole computer. It's a pain to be without one, but

I think he thinks that it's worth it now because he has a much better

computer now (and everything works!) than he did before. I hope it doesn't

take you as long as it took us to get his fixed, but we'll be here when you

do get back!

Good luck with your new doctor's appointment - I know how much this one

means to you!

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At 05:33 AM 12/19/01 -0000, you wrote:

>Just checking in, we are currently sans computer! I am using a

>friend's computer here and there until ours is fixed, a pricey

>proposition... we have a burned out mother board. The guy who is

>repairing it asked if we were struck by lightning it was so bad, but

>no, apparently it's due to DUST bunnies in our tower! The fan sucks

>the air in to cool the computer and we live in an old victorian

>building separated into apartments, it's very dusty. First that virus

>now this larger issue. I was so surprised this happened because the

>biggest thing we were worried about was a virus and we had all the

>software updated. This is very common apparently oh well. Anyway we

>are getting a whole new board and also more memory. I am not sure when

>we will be back online ourselves because the main concern right now is

>paying for my doctor's appointment that is coming up in January. Hope

>to see you all again soon regularly and read all that I've missed,

>I'll have alot of catching up. Take

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That's one cause. Overuse of NSAIDs is another cause.

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RE: hello

H. piloria or something like that is the bacteria that causes some stomach

ulcers.