Re: knowledge

June 30, 2005

hmm.... sorry for the new subject line. That must have been when a short person

standing next to me was grabbing the mouse

knowledge

, this is funny. For the life of me I could not figure out what you

were getting upset about with Deanna's claim to have some knowledge of the

system. You've clarified that now and I had to laugh.

I really have next to no knowledge of Ayurveda, as you can tell. I've taken a

couple of quizzes a few times and was confused by the results. Anyway....as to

symptoms, I'm not sure that I have any. I'm trying to lose a small amount of

weight which is proving somewhat difficult but I am sure a doctor would say I am

not overweight. Maybe my skin's a little dry and my nails are softer than they

could be. What else...I don't know.....

I've just started taking VCO, kefir a few weeks ago and trying to keep the

nasty evil carbs away from my mouth. Haven't got a problem with coffee or

alcohol.

I've been reading The Diet Cure and Dangerous Grains over the past two days.

Tell me what does this sound like....if there is ice cream in the house I must

eat it till it's gone. Very hard to resist. I can resist bread but find that

if I have one piece then I probably end up having many. Does this sound like an

addiction? to either sugar or wheat or just carbs in general? I successfully

avoided sugar and grains for three years up until I was several weeks pregnant.

Then feeling sick I ate anything and everything to feel better. Sometimes I

can't believe I got through more than one Easter without chocolate passing my

teeth.

>I recommend my friends and clients to take CLO for certain symptoms

and that can also get me in trouble with the law--would you take

offense to that?

How ridiculous is that? I saw on doctor on my television this morning giving

advice on how women can avoid heart disease. She said that 30-40% of our diet

should come from fats...ok....then said that these should be vegetable oils like

corn oil, canola, olive, etc and we should cut down on saturated fats. All I

could do was roll my eyes. Liability? Hah! She's only giving advice according

to what she knows. WHEN it is proven incorrect (hopefully in her lifetime) what

will she say then? Oops? Roll of eyes again.

And here I am run out of VCO yesterday. Still a bit hard for me to stick in

my mouth. It's the texture more than anything. So sometimes it goes in the

coffee.

Well little boys are getting sick of me " playing " on the PC.

Cheers

June 30, 2005

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<Tell me what does this sound like....if there is ice cream in the house I

must eat it till it's gone. Very hard to resist. I can resist bread but

find that if I have one piece then I probably end up having many. Does this

sound like an addiction? to either sugar or wheat or just carbs in

general?>

You've mentioned two good ways to begin to evaluate a possible addiction:

1) food that you can't resist, and/or 2) food you can't stop eating until

it's gone. There's also 3) food you can't imagine giving up for the rest of

your life.

Here's an approach that can also help: Imagine you are going to be stranded

long term on a deserted island with only three kinds of foods to eat. These

foods can be of any kind and they can be of the same kind (say, three

different kinds of cookies). Regardless of their normally weak nutritional

value or potential toxicity, these three foods have been magically imbued

with all the nutrients you need to keep you healthy and they can't do you

any harm -- so you choose only on the basis of the pleasure of eating them.

Which would you choose? Do they have ingredients in common?

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

July 9, 2005

--- In , " " <harringtonwa@b...>

wrote:

I'm trying to lose a small amount of weight which is proving

somewhat difficult but I am sure a doctor would say I am not

overweight. Maybe my skin's a little dry and my nails are softer than

they could be. What else...I don't know.....

>

> I've just started taking VCO, kefir a few weeks ago and trying to

keep the nasty evil carbs away from my mouth. Haven't got a problem

with coffee or alcohol.

>

> I've been reading The Diet Cure and Dangerous Grains over the past

two days. Tell me what does this sound like....if there is ice cream

in the house I must eat it till it's gone. Very hard to resist. I

can resist bread but find that if I have one piece then I probably end

up having many. Does this sound like an addiction? to either sugar

or wheat or just carbs in general? I successfully avoided sugar and

grains for three years up until I was several weeks pregnant. Then

feeling sick I ate anything and everything to feel better. Sometimes

I can't believe I got through more than one Easter without chocolate

passing my teeth.

....And here I am run out of VCO yesterday. Still a bit hard for me to

stick in my mouth. It's the texture more than anything. So sometimes

it goes in the coffee.

> ,

Sorry for the delay, I've been out of town for a while.

Since you asked, I'd suggest you take the dosha quiz two times: once

very *objectively* answering according to how you've been long term,

since childhood, or even have someone else who knows you very well

fill in the answers for you. Then, take a second time and answer

according to your current symptoms.

Still, it can be tricky, and one must be very careful with these things.

What your symptoms appear to be are food/taste addictions. Read

Ross' book thoroughly--she does a beautiful job of explaining things

and offering feasible strategies to overcome obstacles.

If/when you figure out your predominant dosha and your imbalance, you

might consider eating more of the foods/tastes appropriate to your

constitution, combined with those good for pacifying any aggravated

condition(s).

For me, when I switched to eating those foods, I lost twelve pounds in

three weeks with little-to-no effort. Some people on this list know

that I've been trying to lose five pounds for two years, instead

gained seven and have been very frustrated for a long time.

I now consider that if coconut oil is incompatible with one's unique

constitutional status it will not assist in weight loss.

B.

>

July 10, 2005

--- In , " downwardog7 "

> If/when you figure out your predominant dosha and your imbalance, you

> might consider eating more of the foods/tastes appropriate to your

> constitution, combined with those good for pacifying any aggravated

> condition(s).

,

What is Ayurveda and dosha?

Robin

July 10, 2005

>

> ,

>

> What is Ayurveda and dosha?

>

> Robin,

Nuh uh, no way, nope.

check your mail.

B.

July 10, 2005

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > What is Ayurveda and dosha?

> >

> > Robin,

> Nuh uh, no way, nope.

>

> check your mail.

> B.

Great. Thanks.

Robin

February 19, 2007

Sally..I would bet if we polled the group, we would find that many of us

actually got " sicker " shortly after we were TOLD that we were indeed

infected with something that has no cure. (some are continuing to do so)

If you take that information and hold it in your head, and focus on it

to the point where many people do, it will EXPAND, and you will make

your " DISease " worse.

I think its reckless and irresponsible to plant that seed in a person who

may be experiencing something quite normal in the case we are referring to.

Some say " knowledge is power " . Not if you can't apply it, and it certainly

has

the capacity to corrupt. This is exactly the way evil is perpetrated

anywhere you

find it. The medical community..although some well intentioned, have us

focusing

on the DIS ease instead of creating " ease " .

The folks in this group are said to be infected with a virus...ok

Viruses are parasites, they cannot exist without a host. (viruses get into

bacteria first)

As a host we need to figure out what the parasite wants, and either

find a way to cut off the supply, or live with it as harmoniously as we

can.

Has anyone here ever asked themselves these questions? or are we

just going to resign ourselves to the slow taking of whatever it is that this

parasite wants?

The professionals that we entrust ourselves to also have a limited body of

knowledge..they only know what they've been taught, and they pass it on to

us..if we have nothing to " buffer " it with, we believe it to be true as well.

A closed, non objective mind is a dangerous one...not only to other's, but

to ourselves as well.

February 19, 2007

I agree with everything you say.... still..... elevated enzymes, TEST..... that

is all I was saying and of course TRANSMISSION...... otherwise yes I gave up all

my lists and research to live and I am much healthier when I just unhep

myself.... but I feel like people have to know the truth. I am sorry, elevated

enzymes could mean hep a----z, B is horrible and moves fast.... then fatty

liver, drug induced, and many other liver ailments..... other than that I agree

with you 1 million percent and sorry if I was bitchy, but got putered out and

could not believe that someone would say ok but it is rare..... wowowowowow.

rare..... oh well you know my feelings..... oh sorry I rarely kill anyone.....

BS.... love you, and appreciate this post... will not be on computer today. I

did not take care of self at all because I was so upset with all of this

yesterday. Today, just me and my dog, blue... LOL, no just me, my Dog BEARdog

and my kitties and some errands, eat well, drink water and

not be sick....... love and thanks a lot. April, when I come down hard, it is

never at you. I think you are so great and knowledgeable just threw me for a

loop...... elevated enzymes... test for everything....... please!!!!! love and

thanks, sally

nmilover " ...and the beat goes on....... " Sonny Bono

I will say of the L-rd, He is my refuge andmy fortress: my G-d; in Him will I

trust.Psalm 91;2

Re: Re: knowledge

Sally..I would bet if we polled the group, we would find that many

of us

actually got " sicker " shortly after we were TOLD that we were indeed

infected with something that has no cure. (some are continuing to do so)

If you take that information and hold it in your head, and focus on it

to the point where many people do, it will EXPAND, and you will make

your " DISease " worse.

I think its reckless and irresponsible to plant that seed in a person who

may be experiencing something quite normal in the case we are referring to.

Some say " knowledge is power " . Not if you can't apply it, and it certainly

has

the capacity to corrupt. This is exactly the way evil is perpetrated

anywhere you

find it. The medical community..although some well intentioned, have us

focusing

on the DIS ease instead of creating " ease " .

The folks in this group are said to be infected with a virus...ok

Viruses are parasites, they cannot exist without a host. (viruses get into

bacteria first)

As a host we need to figure out what the parasite wants, and either

find a way to cut off the supply, or live with it as harmoniously as we

can.

Has anyone here ever asked themselves these questions? or are we

just going to resign ourselves to the slow taking of whatever it is that this

parasite wants?

The professionals that we entrust ourselves to also have a limited body of

knowledge..they only know what they've been taught, and they pass it on to

us..if we have nothing to " buffer " it with, we believe it to be true as well.

A closed, non objective mind is a dangerous one...not only to other's, but

to ourselves as well.

February 19, 2007

I think that you might be right. I remember when I was first diagnosed, shortly

after when family asked how I was, I replied that I was feeling perfectly fine

until I had a blood test and was diagnosed with hep C, now I feel sick. I've

had to remind myself that I was unaware of my condition for maybe 30 years or

more and in that time have had a child, worked full time and lived a normal life

including a few glasses of wine after work each night. OK, so maybe I have

replaced the wine with water and am eating a lot more fruit and vegetables. I

agree, you can actually feel sicker after test results, surfing the net and

visits to the dr. As you mentioned holding onto it and allowing it to expand in

your head is not the way to go. Making a few lifestyle changes is something

that I should have done anyway, I have now finally have started.

Aprilcupcake@... wrote: Sally..I would bet if we polled the group,

we would find that many of us

actually got " sicker " shortly after we were TOLD that we were indeed

infected with something that has no cure. (some are continuing to do so)

If you take that information and hold it in your head, and focus on it

to the point where many people do, it will EXPAND, and you will make

your " DISease " worse.

I think its reckless and irresponsible to plant that seed in a person who

may be experiencing something quite normal in the case we are referring to.

Some say " knowledge is power " . Not if you can't apply it, and it certainly

has

the capacity to corrupt. This is exactly the way evil is perpetrated

anywhere you

find it. The medical community..although some well intentioned, have us

focusing

on the DIS ease instead of creating " ease " .

The folks in this group are said to be infected with a virus...ok

Viruses are parasites, they cannot exist without a host. (viruses get into

bacteria first)

As a host we need to figure out what the parasite wants, and either

find a way to cut off the supply, or live with it as harmoniously as we

can.

Has anyone here ever asked themselves these questions? or are we

just going to resign ourselves to the slow taking of whatever it is that this

parasite wants?

The professionals that we entrust ourselves to also have a limited body of

knowledge..they only know what they've been taught, and they pass it on to

us..if we have nothing to " buffer " it with, we believe it to be true as well.

A closed, non objective mind is a dangerous one...not only to other's, but

to ourselves as well.

February 19, 2007

Hi, I'm Debra. I just joined this group and have been reading the

postings. I am a very good friend of Sally, and when she posts, she

does it from her gut and her heart. She loves soooo much that she

can get a bit enraged. When I was told I had Hep C in 1995, I was

shocked. Because I didn't even know it went up to " C " . I knew

about " A " and " B " but " C " ? Noooo. Yet it didn't scare me. But then

I got my CBC done (complete blood count)and my liver enzymes were in

the 500's. I thought to myself " Man, this is one rotten virus. " I'm

not as knowledgeable as many of you on Hepatitis C. I am probably in

Hep C denial. lol I just don't think about it. HOWEVER, I take

precautions in every measure--i.e., toothbrushes, nail files, even

sharing a soda with someone. I take no chances. Because it is a

silent killer and there are millions walking around with it not

knowing they have it, one must take precaution. There's always

that " if " . I'm not very good at expressing myself, especially being

brand new in the group. I just wanted to say hello to everyone and

be in a group that Sally is in. She knows quite a bit!

Sally..I would bet if we polled

the group, we would find that many of us

> actually got " sicker " shortly after we were TOLD that we were indeed

> infected with something that has no cure. (some are continuing to

do so)

> If you take that information and hold it in your head, and focus on

it

> to the point where many people do, it will EXPAND, and you will make

> your " DISease " worse.

>

> I think its reckless and irresponsible to plant that seed in a

person who

> may be experiencing something quite normal in the case we are

referring to.

>

> Some say " knowledge is power " . Not if you can't apply it, and it

certainly

> has

> the capacity to corrupt. This is exactly the way evil is

perpetrated

> anywhere you

> find it. The medical community..although some well intentioned,

have us

> focusing

> on the DIS ease instead of creating " ease " .

>

> The folks in this group are said to be infected with a virus...ok

> Viruses are parasites, they cannot exist without a host. (viruses

get into

> bacteria first)

> As a host we need to figure out what the parasite wants, and either

> find a way to cut off the supply, or live with it as harmoniously

as we

> can.

> Has anyone here ever asked themselves these questions? or are we

> just going to resign ourselves to the slow taking of whatever it is

that this

> parasite wants?

>

> The professionals that we entrust ourselves to also have a limited

body of

> knowledge..they only know what they've been taught, and they pass

it on to

> us..if we have nothing to " buffer " it with, we believe it to be

true as well.

>

> A closed, non objective mind is a dangerous one...not only to

other's, but

> to ourselves as well.

>

February 19, 2007

ahh Deborah honehy pie potato face.... flattery will get you everywhere my

friend..... I sure don't feel so smarty farty now....... I will call you

tomorrow morning. You guys this is one great lady!!!!! sally

nmilover " ...and the beat goes on....... " Sonny

Bono.....I will say of the L-rd, He is my refuge andmy fortress: my G-d; in Him

will I trust.Psalm 91;2