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Hi,

I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife and I

don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health risks we

read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier

since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening emergency? My

wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she won't use the

epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to have given to

you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she said that those

drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

Josh

RE: Fw: [bCT] Alternative Medicine is dangerous

>

>

Posted

complex & controversial topics, you take your chances either way. also off

topic for a rife list.

cheers,

bobL

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homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/

> vaccinations

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring

> up. My wife and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because

> of all the bad health risks we read about being related to

> vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier since we're

> choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

> them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

> emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives

> birth she won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they

> or you can choose to have given to you. I'm not sure where she

> got the information from but she said that those drugs can have

> bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

>

> Josh

>

> RE: Fw: [bCT] Alternative Medicine is dangerous

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

Posted

vaccinations

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife and

I don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health risks we

read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier

since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening emergency? My

wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she won't use the

epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to have given to

you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she said that those

drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

>

> Josh

Josh,

If it were my kids, I'd never vaccinate them. You might want to look into:

National Vaccine Information Center

512 West Maple Avenue, #206

Vienna, Virginia 22180

phone: 800-909-SHOT/

website: www.909shot.com

Also see:

http://www.westonaprice.org/children/autism.html

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial\

& channel=s & hl=en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search

A great book on vaccines is by Walene . Also see:

http://whale.to/vaccines/james1.html

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsylver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness,

including Transfer Factor and VIBE

Posted

my wife and I have decided not to vaccinate any of them.

Josh

vaccinations

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife

and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health risks

we read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier

since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening emergency? My

wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she won't use the

epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to have given to

you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she said that those

drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

>

> Josh

Josh,

If it were my kids, I'd never vaccinate them. You might want to look into:

National Vaccine Information Center

512 West Maple Avenue, #206

Vienna, Virginia 22180

phone: 800-909-SHOT/

website: www.909shot.com

Also see:

http://www.westonaprice.org/children/autism.html

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial\

& channel=s & hl=en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search

A great book on vaccines is by Walene . Also see:

http://whale.to/vaccines/james1.html

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsylver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness,

including Transfer Factor and VIBE

Posted

Josh,

Your wife is totally correct, in fact, beyond correct. Read in the Nov 2006

Discovery

Magazine the article about epigenetics called DNA IS NOT YOUR DESTINY.

Peace, deenie P.S. Happy Holidays to all!

Posted

Vaccinations have been one of the greatest advances in the last century.

Without them, not only would millions of children be sick or dead but also

our livestock industry would be devastated. This did not come without risk.

We have seen a massive increase in autoimmune disease in people and animals

because of them and suspect many other maladies not seen in the previous

centuries as well. I lost a kidney to whooping cough, having been born

before there was a vaccine.

Then you have the increase in autism, supposedly linked to the mercury in

some of the vaccines.

However, in spite of this, I would not vaccinate my children either if I

could do it over again. (They are all grown.)

But I would look into other methods to protect them.

One would be colloidal silver. Another would be Transfer Factor. Both, if

used consistently would probably prevent all diseases.

Dr. Dave

_____

From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of Josh

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:18 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: vaccinations

my wife and I have decided not to vaccinate any of them.

Josh

vaccinations

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife

and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health

risks we read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be

healthier since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any

drugs into them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she

won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to

have given to you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she

said that those drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's

health also.

>

> Josh

Josh,

If it were my kids, I'd never vaccinate them. You might want to look into:

National Vaccine Information Center

512 West Maple Avenue, #206

Vienna, Virginia 22180

phone: 800-909-SHOT/

website: www.909shot.com

Also see:

http://www.westonap <http://www.westonaprice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html

http://www.google.

<http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

icial & channel=s & hl=en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search>

com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial & channel=s & hl=

en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search

A great book on vaccines is by Walene . Also see: http://whale.

<http://whale.to/vaccines/james1.html> to/vaccines/james1.html

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsyl <http://www.nenahsylver.com> ver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness,

including Transfer Factor and VIBE

Posted

I read an interview with a large Pharma company retiree who was one of their

leading vaccine scientists, he said the state of health now is not really

due to vaccines but to the state of sanitation and cleanliness, much disease

had been eradicated in pre vaccine England by seeing that all children

received RAW milk in school, research I have studied said if you have been

vaccinated subtract, SUBTRACT, 20 years from your life, the largest

component of our immune system is our skin and when you circumvent the skin

by injection you cause confusion with the bodies immune system as the

different systems communicate, the Philippines is a good example hundreds

died there after mandatory vaccinations from diseases that were not a

problem there, evidence is showing the 1918 flu epidemic was probably caused

by mass vaccinations of troops returning home from the war, I for one am

tired of being experimented on, the flu vaccine is another example of Big

Pharma getting rich through scare tactics. A lot of the cancer is out there

now is being slowly tied back to immunizations done to children in the 50'.s

No one knows how many current problems are being caused by experimentation

with germ warfare, and wholesale vaccinations, nor will we probably ever

find out.

Terry

_____

From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of

W Kenney

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:41 AM

To: Rife

Subject: RE: vaccinations

Vaccinations have been one of the greatest advances in the last century.

Without them, not only would millions of children be sick or dead but also

our livestock industry would be devastated. This did not come without risk.

We have seen a massive increase in autoimmune disease in people and animals

because of them and suspect many other maladies not seen in the previous

centuries as well. I lost a kidney to whooping cough, having been born

before there was a vaccine.

Then you have the increase in autism, supposedly linked to the mercury in

some of the vaccines.

However, in spite of this, I would not vaccinate my children either if I

could do it over again. (They are all grown.)

But I would look into other methods to protect them.

One would be colloidal silver. Another would be Transfer Factor. Both, if

used consistently would probably prevent all diseases.

Dr. Dave

_____

From: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

[mailto:Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of

Josh

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:18 PM

To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

Subject: Re: vaccinations

my wife and I have decided not to vaccinate any of them.

Josh

vaccinations

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife

and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health

risks we read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be

healthier since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any

drugs into them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she

won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to

have given to you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she

said that those drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's

health also.

>

> Josh

Josh,

If it were my kids, I'd never vaccinate them. You might want to look into:

National Vaccine Information Center

512 West Maple Avenue, #206

Vienna, Virginia 22180

phone: 800-909-SHOT/

website: www.909shot.com

Also see:

http://www.westonap <http://www.westonap

<http://www.westonaprice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html

http://www.google.

<http://www.google.

<http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

> com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

icial & channel=s & hl=en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search>

com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial & channel=s & hl=

en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search

A great book on vaccines is by Walene . Also see: http://whale.

<http://whale. <http://whale.to/vaccines/james1.html>

to/vaccines/james1.html> to/vaccines/james1.html

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsyl <http://www.nenahsyl <http://www.nenahsylver.com>

ver.com> ver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness,

including Transfer Factor and VIBE

Posted

One of the theories behind the National ID Card is to eventually make it

mandatory that we all comply with vaccines or any other procedure that our

govt seems we need. " In our best interests. " , so to speak. If when scanned

and we have not complied.no job, no social security or in essence whatever

we have is taken away until we do comply. The New World Order is coming

where we will all be slaves to the Money & Power. Fortunate for those of us

that know and use Rife Therapy we can avoid most of the things probably

planned.

_____

From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of Terry

McClelland

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:50 AM

To: Rife

Subject: RE: vaccinations

I read an interview with a large Pharma company retiree who was one of their

leading vaccine scientists, he said the state of health now is not really

due to vaccines but to the state of sanitation and cleanliness, much disease

had been eradicated in pre vaccine England by seeing that all children

received RAW milk in school, research I have studied said if you have been

vaccinated subtract, SUBTRACT, 20 years from your life, the largest

component of our immune system is our skin and when you circumvent the skin

by injection you cause confusion with the bodies immune system as the

different systems communicate, the Philippines is a good example hundreds

died there after mandatory vaccinations from diseases that were not a

problem there, evidence is showing the 1918 flu epidemic was probably caused

by mass vaccinations of troops returning home from the war, I for one am

tired of being experimented on, the flu vaccine is another example of Big

Pharma getting rich through scare tactics. A lot of the cancer is out there

now is being slowly tied back to immunizations done to children in the 50'.s

No one knows how many current problems are being caused by experimentation

with germ warfare, and wholesale vaccinations, nor will we probably ever

find out.

Terry

_____

From: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

[mailto:Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of

W Kenney

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:41 AM

To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

Subject: RE: vaccinations

Vaccinations have been one of the greatest advances in the last century.

Without them, not only would millions of children be sick or dead but also

our livestock industry would be devastated. This did not come without risk.

We have seen a massive increase in autoimmune disease in people and animals

because of them and suspect many other maladies not seen in the previous

centuries as well. I lost a kidney to whooping cough, having been born

before there was a vaccine.

Then you have the increase in autism, supposedly linked to the mercury in

some of the vaccines.

However, in spite of this, I would not vaccinate my children either if I

could do it over again. (They are all grown.)

But I would look into other methods to protect them.

One would be colloidal silver. Another would be Transfer Factor. Both, if

used consistently would probably prevent all diseases.

Dr. Dave

_____

From: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

[mailto:Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of

Josh

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:18 PM

To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:Rife%40yahoogroups.com> com

Subject: Re: vaccinations

my wife and I have decided not to vaccinate any of them.

Josh

vaccinations

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife

and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health

risks we read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be

healthier since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any

drugs into them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she

won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to

have given to you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she

said that those drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's

health also.

>

> Josh

Josh,

If it were my kids, I'd never vaccinate them. You might want to look into:

National Vaccine Information Center

512 West Maple Avenue, #206

Vienna, Virginia 22180

phone: 800-909-SHOT/

website: www.909shot.com

Also see:

http://www.westonap <http://www.westonap

<http://www.westonap <http://www.westonaprice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html>

rice.org/children/autism.html

http://www.google.

<http://www.google.

<http://www.google.

<http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

> com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

> com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff

icial & channel=s & hl=en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search>

com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial & channel=s & hl=

en & q=vaccine+dangers & btnG=Google+Search

A great book on vaccines is by Walene . Also see: http://whale.

<http://whale. <http://whale. <http://whale.to/vaccines/james1.html>

to/vaccines/james1.html>

to/vaccines/james1.html> to/vaccines/james1.html

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsyl <http://www.nenahsyl <http://www.nenahsyl

<http://www.nenahsylver.com> ver.com>

ver.com> ver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness,

including Transfer Factor and VIBE

Posted

Kansas is the whooping cough capitol of the world , with some the highest

vaccinations and also some of the highest rate of the disease, by contrast

Germany doesn't inoculate for it and has some the lowest rates for this

disease, makes you wonder, when you are vaccinated you have no assurance

that it will work, it won't kill you, several have died in Israel from this

years flu inoculation, and we aren't hearing about that here either.

Terry

_____

From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of

W Kenney

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:18 AM

To: Rife

Subject: RE: vaccinations

One of the theories behind the National ID Card is to eventually make it

mandatory that we all comply with vaccines or any other procedure that our

govt seems we need. " In our best interests. " , so to speak. If when scanned

and we have not complied.no job, no social security or in essence whatever

we have is taken away until we do comply. The New World Order is coming

where we will all be slaves to the Money & Power. Fortunate for those of us

that know and use Rife Therapy we can avoid most of the things probably

planned.

Posted

Where do you get your news from? I haven't heard about these things on the news.

Do you listen to rbn, republic broadcasting network rbnlive.com ?

Josh

RE: vaccinations

One of the theories behind the National ID Card is to eventually make it

mandatory that we all comply with vaccines or any other procedure that our

govt seems we need. " In our best interests. " , so to speak. If when scanned

and we have not complied.no job, no social security or in essence whatever

we have is taken away until we do comply. The New World Order is coming

where we will all be slaves to the Money & Power. Fortunate for those of us

that know and use Rife Therapy we can avoid most of the things probably

planned.

Posted

HI,

Vaccines contain thirmesol, which is a form of mercury and has been linked

to autism in children. I've heard that epidurals can cause undue pressure on

the baby's head because delievery is being forced and doesn't have the " natural

rhythmic contractions " . You picked a very intelligent wife.

Josh wrote:

Hi,

I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring up. My wife and I

don't want to get our child vaccinated because of all the bad health risks we

read about being related to vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier

since we're choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening emergency? My

wife also said when she goes into labor and gives birth she won't use the

epidural pain-relief drug thing that they or you can choose to have given to

you. I'm not sure where she got the information from but she said that those

drugs can have bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

Josh

Posted

Hi,

We can fight the national ID Card. Read the book, " Spy Chips " and check the

website www.spychips.com.

W Kenney wrote: One

of the theories behind the National ID Card is to eventually make it

mandatory that we all comply with vaccines or any other procedure that our

govt seems we need. " In our best interests. " , so to speak. If when scanned

and we have not complied.no job, no social security or in essence whatever

we have is taken away until we do comply. The New World Order is coming

where we will all be slaves to the Money & Power. Fortunate for those of us

that know and use Rife Therapy we can avoid most of the things probably

planned.

Posted

See the movie " America Freedom to Fascism " , the reason is to force us to be

RFID chip implanted, that is why Homeland Security got a law passed to force

us to undergo any procedure they deem necessary, this movie is well worth

watching, it is in Google videos

Terry

_____

From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of denise

jameson

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:17 PM

To: Rife

Subject: RE: vaccinations

Hi,

We can fight the national ID Card. Read the book, " Spy Chips " and check the

website www.spychips.com.

W Kenney <drdavemontrose (DOT) <mailto:drdave%40montrose.net> net> wrote:

One of the theories behind the National ID Card is to eventually make it

mandatory that we all comply with vaccines or any other procedure that our

govt seems we need. " In our best interests. " , so to speak. If when scanned

and we have not complied.no job, no social security or in essence whatever

we have is taken away until we do comply. The New World Order is coming

where we will all be slaves to the Money & Power. Fortunate for those of us

that know and use Rife Therapy we can avoid most of the things probably

planned.

Posted

You are right this was off topic, but this thread was one of the more useful.

bob Larson wrote: complex & controversial

topics, you take your chances either way. also off

topic for a rife list.

cheers,

bobL

myspace: http://www.myspace.com/bob021147

ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/bobLs-fine-flotsam

homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/

> vaccinations

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring

> up. My wife and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because

> of all the bad health risks we read about being related to

> vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier since we're

> choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

> them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

> emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives

> birth she won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they

> or you can choose to have given to you. I'm not sure where she

> got the information from but she said that those drugs can have

> bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

>

> Josh

>

> RE: Fw: [bCT] Alternative Medicine is dangerous

> >

> >

Posted

yeah...the video w/ dr. Ayoud (?) is most interesting & scary. i HOPE he

jumps a line from science to fantasy/paranoia somewhere.

cheers,

bobL

myspace: http://www.myspace.com/bob021147

ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/bobLs-fine-flotsam

homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/

> vaccinations

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I changed the subject to reflect the new topic I want to bring

> > up. My wife and I don't want to get our child vaccinated because

> > of all the bad health risks we read about being related to

> > vaccines. So will our child/children be healthier since we're

> > choosing to not have any of them vaccinated or put any drugs into

> > them unless it's absolutely necessary and it's a life-threatening

> > emergency? My wife also said when she goes into labor and gives

> > birth she won't use the epidural pain-relief drug thing that they

> > or you can choose to have given to you. I'm not sure where she

> > got the information from but she said that those drugs can have

> > bad effects on both the mother and baby's health also.

> >

> > Josh

> >

> > RE: Fw: [bCT] Alternative Medicine is dangerous

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

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