Re: Re: OT Homeschool/Words again (was: Heidi's dunkers)

[Guest guest]

Hear! Hear! I grew up an only child also. I thank God that my mother

was my best friend. She may have had to work and put me into school,

being a single mom, but she made it a point to spend lots of time with

me and supplement my learning and experiences every way she could.

(Plays, concerts, museums...we lived in downtown Chicago.) But, I

spent more time teaching my friends how to be " social " . I didn't learn

social skills in school. (BTW, my dh has taught me how he learned to

" fight and makeup " too.... Yell at the top of your lungs, jump up and

down, and throw things to be heard, then ignore the whole thing when

you want to make up! LOL! Unfortunately he is not open to learning a

new way!)

As for sending my kids away for a few hours... does anyone want

them?...but just for a few hours! I need a nap! LOL

L.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:09:16 -0500, Steph <flybabysteph@...> wrote:

>

> Just wanted to agree with everything L. said. Socialization is

seriously over emphasized in our country. Most of my neighbor's kids spend at

least 10 hours a day away from home and with other kids their age. I think it's

more natural for kids to spend the bulk of their time with family and a little

time with peers.

>

> The main reason I decided to home school was when I worked at an after school

program years ago and I saw what the kids were talking about in elementary

school - 8 & 9 year olds talking about sex. And that was 12 years ago, now I

hear stories of 7 year olds being asked for sex! I want my children to get to

enjoy their childhood and not have to deal with such grown up things until

they're older.

>

> One other note. I grew up as an only child and I've read authors that I

respect say to stick your only child into daycare or preschool ASAP. I started

out in daycare from 6 weeks old and it never helped me with conflict resolution,

sharing, give and take, or any other issues that you learn from having siblings.

My parents could have taught me some of that, but that's a whole other issue.

:-) So, socialization in itself isn't necessarily helpful. (My husband had

to teach me how to argue and then make up with someone.) Even with all of my

" socialization " and time spent with kids my age, I still end up not getting

along with my peers all that well. My DH is 5 years older than me, and my

closest girl friends are all 10 years older than me. That's somewhat natural

for only children.

>

> I couldn't imagine sending my kids away from me for 8 hours a day either -

although there are days when it doesn't seem like such a bad idea! LOL. :-P

> Steph

[Guest guest]

>Just wanted to agree with everything L. said. Socialization is seriously

over emphasized in our country. Most of my neighbor's kids spend at least 10

hours a day away from home and with other kids their age. I think it's more

natural for kids to spend the bulk of their time with family and a little time

with peers.

I'd recommend renting the movie " Legends of the Fall " . Besides being a nice tear

jerker romance, it also shows something of life " as it was " ... a little clan in

the

middle of nowhere. A couple of kids, learning, but also mainly being with adults

and learning to be an adult. It takes 18 years for a kid to learn to be an adult

....

but if they are just being with other kids, what they are really learning is

" how to

be a kid " . And you get these incredibly childish adults as a result! This is

the

first time in history we've created a " kid culture " separate and apart from

" adult culture " ... the kids spend all their time learning about pop stars and

music and cartoons, and graduate school without ever having learned the

life skills of cooking, cleaning, raising kids, fixing a car, or balancing a

checkbook.

Personally I see zero value in kids spending most of their day with

a bunch of kids, esp. at preschool age when they should be bonding

to their family and learning to be " part of the clan " .

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Here, here !!! Heidi homeschooler for President !

Rebekah

Re: Re: OT Homeschool/Words again (was: Heidi's dunkers)

>Just wanted to agree with everything L. said. Socialization is

seriously over emphasized in our country. Most of my neighbor's kids spend at

least 10 hours a day away from home and with other kids their age. I think it's

more natural for kids to spend the bulk of their time with family and a little

time with peers.

I'd recommend renting the movie " Legends of the Fall " . Besides being a nice

tear

jerker romance, it also shows something of life " as it was " ... a little clan

in the

middle of nowhere. A couple of kids, learning, but also mainly being with

adults

and learning to be an adult. It takes 18 years for a kid to learn to be an

adult ...

but if they are just being with other kids, what they are really learning is

" how to

be a kid " . And you get these incredibly childish adults as a result! This is

the

first time in history we've created a " kid culture " separate and apart from

" adult culture " ... the kids spend all their time learning about pop stars and

music and cartoons, and graduate school without ever having learned the

life skills of cooking, cleaning, raising kids, fixing a car, or balancing a

checkbook.

Personally I see zero value in kids spending most of their day with

a bunch of kids, esp. at preschool age when they should be bonding

to their family and learning to be " part of the clan " .

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

bringing up a kid is a tough and complicated thing....moderation of course is

always a mainstay...

The networking that kids have with each other allows them to get to know each

other and understand how to deal with each other. Soething they will need when

they take over supplying the needs of the " clan "

Also adults instilling the fact of life as they know them doesnt do much for

creating new developments or discoveries... preaching the way things have always

been done doenst create an environment of questioning and thinking of new ideas.

Tough balacing act... new ideas that arent well based in sustainable tennets can

be disaters (ahem, what we have now)... but then always rebuilding ones village

on the same spot where cyclical floods wash it away , just because its always

been done that way may not be smartest thing either... look at china three

gorges dam project... the cost is estimated at what the damage is from one

yearly bad flood. From then on no more flooding. But then it may be over kill

answer that creates much more other issues...

dam if we do , damned if we dont. I like the pun. :-)

Kid culture can make things simpler and better in many ways. It can also help

promote new ideas, new imagination. And wouldnt it be fun to have amore relaxed

and more more playtime in our lives...elimnate some of the tiresome and

time-consuming ruts of jobs we sometimes get into that takes away joy of living?

Re: Re: OT Homeschool/Words again (was: Heidi's dunkers)

>Just wanted to agree with everything L. said. Socialization is

seriously over emphasized in our country. Most of my neighbor's kids spend at

least 10 hours a day away from home and with other kids their age. I think it's

more natural for kids to spend the bulk of their time with family and a little

time with peers.

I'd recommend renting the movie " Legends of the Fall " . Besides being a nice

tear

jerker romance, it also shows something of life " as it was " ... a little

clan in the

middle of nowhere. A couple of kids, learning, but also mainly being with

adults

and learning to be an adult. It takes 18 years for a kid to learn to be an

adult ...

but if they are just being with other kids, what they are really learning is

" how to

be a kid " . And you get these incredibly childish adults as a result! This

is the

first time in history we've created a " kid culture " separate and apart from

" adult culture " ... the kids spend all their time learning about pop stars

and

music and cartoons, and graduate school without ever having learned the

life skills of cooking, cleaning, raising kids, fixing a car, or balancing a

checkbook.

Personally I see zero value in kids spending most of their day with

a bunch of kids, esp. at preschool age when they should be bonding

to their family and learning to be " part of the clan " .

Heidi Jean