Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Will a tube lose light or gas after a few years? My tube is expecially becoming less responsive to pulsing. It is run by f 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Hi Ian, What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ? Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and use a flyback transformer. You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think ? Regards, Ken Re: RB tube losing power Hi, this depends on: 1. If you are using the electrodes to ignite plasma or if you have collars on the tube. 2. If the tube has been subjected to extensive operating sessions and/or temperatures. 3. If the tube has undergone any recent trauma such as shaking or banging. 1. Using the electrodes will eventually (sooner than you think) burn out the electrodes and may well " dope " the noble gas with other polluting elements given off by the electrodes themselves as they are stimulating the gas plasma. Eventually the tlectrodes also become too short, physically, lacking the surface area needed for efficient ignition and thus, become finicky. Also, if allowed to burn too short they can provide a miniscule airway through the glass at the point of electrode insertion that results in loss of noble gas or further pollution of the noble gas by external elements. I hope this has been of help. Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. P.S. If you are using collars, try moving them to a new part of the glass wall on the tube and shortening the leads from your coil unit to the collar. missourinaturegirl wrote: Will a tube lose light or gas after a few years? My tube is expecially becoming less responsive to pulsing. It is run by f 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse. As I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of the radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the plasma. If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not connect a low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell them on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts. Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also the safety implications of HVAC from the secondary. Nielsen >What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They >are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hi Ken, We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much in fact that we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us. These things are amazing! As for life expectancy ... indefinite. Due to the simplicity of its " single electrode " design and the fact that its electrode is steel wool (we are using a copper wool at present even in the store bought models) which is easily extracted and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this: According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood of these globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less than 35 years! It all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon gas due to inevitable contaminants let in during manufacturing and their detrimental effects on the gas's ability to plasmate easily. Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell. Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. Best to All, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Ken Uzzell wrote: Hi Ian, What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ? Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and use a flyback transformer. You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think ? Regards, Ken ----- Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 , You are on to it. So many people are so busy overcomplicating the mechanics that they lose sight of the fact that the only complication is in the gathering and interpretation of data and refinement of technique. Yours, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Nielsen wrote: Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse. As I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of the radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the plasma. If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not connect a low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell them on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts. Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also the safety implications of HVAC from the secondary. Nielsen Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Ian, Most intriguing, thanks for posting this modification. Actually, I have long been musing with the same idea, of directly connecting those " storm " plasma globes as one would a rife plasma or phanotron tube. Strip the original company electronics, I would just like to substitute it for a phanotron tube. I am currently using a rife/bare machine. Are you saying all I have to do is substitute one globe for the conventional rife tube, no other modifications, needed? any advice would be greatly appreciated, doug Re: RB tube losing power Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell. Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. Best to All, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hi Ian, Your comments raise a bunch of questions... * What differences do you observe with using larger globes? * What voltage are you using to drive the globes? * I've read that one should be careful not to drive the plasma globe with too high of a voltage lest X-rays be produced. Have you any observations regarding this? * I've read that a plasma globe has a natural resonant frequency, and deviating from this frequency yields inefficient operation. Since you are driving the globes without modulating a carrier frequency have you noticed any differences in heating of your driver electronics depending on the frequency being run? * To what cause do you attribute the 42% increase in effects? How was this determined? * What is the IM007 unit? * Frequencies above the audio spectrum are indicated as being primary MORs (ie cancer MORs in the low MHz). How much higher in frequency have you tried operating? Have you tried running higher octaves of known effective frequencies? What biological reactions are you testing for? What sort of speculations as to why the drop in effectiveness beyond audio frequencies? Cheers, Warren Hi Ken, We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much in fact that we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us. These things are amazing! As for life expectancy ... indefinite. Due to the simplicity of its " single electrode " design and the fact that its electrode is steel wool (we are using a copper wool at present even in the store bought models) which is easily extracted and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this: According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood of these globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less than 35 years! It all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon gas due to inevitable contaminants let in during manufacturing and their detrimental effects on the gas's ability to plasmate easily. Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell. Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. Best to All, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Ken Uzzell wrote: Hi Ian, What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ? Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and use a flyback transformer. You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think ? Regards, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hi Ian, You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your instructions. * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit the bill ? * Pure sine waves only. * No modulation. * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au Frex - CHIamp Re: RB tube losing power Hi Ken, We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much in fact that we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us. These things are amazing! As for life expectancy ... indefinite. Due to the simplicity of its " single electrode " design and the fact that its electrode is steel wool (we are using a copper wool at present even in the store bought models) which is easily extracted and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this: According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood of these globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less than 35 years! It all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon gas due to inevitable contaminants let in during manufacturing and their detrimental effects on the gas's ability to plasmate easily. Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell. Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. Best to All, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Ken Uzzell wrote: Hi Ian, What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ? Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and use a flyback transformer. You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think ? Regards, Ken ----- Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Thanks , Does AF Transformer mean Audio Frequency Transformer ? Regards Ken > > Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse. As > I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of the > radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the plasma. > > If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not connect a > low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF > transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell them > on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts. > Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn > them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also the > safety implications of HVAC from the secondary. > > Nielsen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hi Doug, Alvin Rose from Canada drives these 8 inch novelty plasma globes straight from his EM7V, and has quite a bit of experience doing so. There would have to be in excess of 50,000 volts in the globe. Alvin says the E Field is pegged at 100% on the TriField, 10 feet from the globe. He just sticks the HV wire up the center electrode chamber, into the steel wool coil inside the electrode tip. Even the PMR should make a song and dance here. Regards, Ken Re: RB tube losing power Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell. Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. Best to All, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Yes, audio frequency. The response and linearity will vary depending on how it is built. Lots of steel is best to minimize saturation at lower frequencies. In valve circuits these couple the HV output of the amp to the 8 ohm speaker(s) by substantially lowering the signal voltage. To drive a tube, it is wired in reverse to step up voltage for ionization. Accordingly, you want as high a turns ratio as possible but within 4-8 ohms on the low side or the amp output will be reduced. The following ones currently at auction (not mine) are a perfect example. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-5k-Audio-Output-Transformer-for-SE-amplifier_W0QQitemZ9\ 715219588QQcategoryZ50593QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Do a search on eBay for " audio transformer " and you may find others. I have even used several inexpensive 100V PA line matching transformers with the HV windings wired in series. There are two advantages of these over auto coils. First, the 4-8 ohm primary side is already impedance matched to most commercial amps. Secondly, the frequency response curve will be flatter. Naturally, the secondary voltage rating must be adhered to within reason, ie. one would not put 100VAC on the primary and expect to draw 10KV at very much current. The windings will soon short out. If we attach importance to instantaneous rise times for higher harmonics, as in square waves, transformers are somewhat limiting however. They tend to soften the waveform and interact reactively with the amp output. A solid state switch would be faster. But then ionized gas tubes can impose their own non-linearities. Nielsen >Does AF Transformer mean Audio Frequency Transformer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Dear Polo, That is correct. Substitute the globe for your Phanatron or other plasma tube. Direct substitution and you have an excellent single electrode tube. Fact is, our tests have shown conclusively that the gas mixture (here goes the firestorm of replies) makes absolutely no difference whatsoever insofar as biological results are concerned. The argon used in the plasma globe works just as well as " E " Gas or any other " special " or " proprietary mixture " of gasses. Go forth and globe it. Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. polo wrote: Ian, Most intriguing, thanks for posting this modification. Actually, I have long been musing with the same idea, of directly connecting those " storm " plasma globes as one would a rife plasma or phanotron tube. Strip the original company electronics, I would just like to substitute it for a phanotron tube. I am currently using a rife/bare machine. Are you saying all I have to do is substitute one globe for the conventional rife tube, no other modifications, needed? any advice would be greatly appreciated, doug Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hi Warren, Good questions all: a. A larger globe is as easily ignited as the smaller ones. We notice that the larger globes give a much more " even " spread across any particular frequency set that we are transmitting. This is due to the increased active surface available from a larger plasma quantity. b. We are applying, typically, 20-30KV No Load Volts in a sinusoidal waveform. c. It is true that X-Ray production is possible at too high voltage or too low frequencies, but significant production of radiation in this spectrum has not been noted in any of our experiments ... although it has been sought out. d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas. e. Because our coils are both balanced for sinusoidal production and cooled with huge heat sinks and fans, there is no heating issue. Our coils do not reach saturation as we have managed to balance them pretty well these days through the use of a variable resistance " floating " core unit. f. The 42% increase is measured through a set of standardised biological reaction examinations in a fixed protocol that we have developed for such measurements in order to monitor our own progress. g. The IM007 is our analogue production unit, a product of our own engineering crew here in-house. h. Frequencies above the audio spectrum may be indicated as MOR's but are not from a credible laboratory testing environment and are anectdotal at best. We have run frequencies as high as 1Ghz and as low as 1Hz and have determined that for reasons as yet not fully understood the audio spectrum is where we need to concentrate and in sinusoidal waveform only. Always, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. * Frequencies above the audio spectrum are indicated as being primary MORs (ie cancer MORs in the low MHz). How much higher in frequency have you tried operating? Have you tried running higher octaves of known effective frequencies? What biological reactions are you testing for? What sort of speculations as to why the drop in effectiveness beyond audio frequencies? Cheers, Warren Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Dear Ken, So many thanks for the praise, it is rare but appreciated. My guys here also send their thanks and gratitude as they have begun monitoring these emails really closely and are now discussing them in our meetings and brainstormings. For your HV Transformer, pick up an automotive " flyback style " coil with a 4 Ohm Resistor externally mounted. We have had much more luck with these than the canister types as far as " noise " and stability go. Also the saturation is less of a problem with the flyback style. I can help you balance it later. Best to you, keep up your good efforts and share, share, share. Yours, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Ken Uzzell wrote: Hi Ian, You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your instructions. * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit the bill ? * Pure sine waves only. * No modulation. * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Thanks for your clarity. I noticed Ian said 12.5kHz was the top limit, so it would be a pity not to be able to get there because the coil wouldn't go there. From Ian's hints to-date, it really appears he has found great value in focusing sine waves at certain frequencies to generate desired physiological responses. Ian may have well found the secret of fascia trauma management, thus turning the tide for so many illnesses. Jim Bare was hinting about this type of work several months back. Wow, we are living in exciting times. Regards, Ken Re: Re: RB tube losing power Yes, audio frequency. The response and linearity will vary depending on how it is built. Lots of steel is best to minimize saturation at lower frequencies. In valve circuits these couple the HV output of the amp to the 8 ohm speaker(s) by substantially lowering the signal voltage. To drive a tube, it is wired in reverse to step up voltage for ionization. Accordingly, you want as high a turns ratio as possible but within 4-8 ohms on the low side or the amp output will be reduced. The following ones currently at auction (not mine) are a perfect example. http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-5k-Audio-Output-Transformer-for-SE-amplifier_W0QQitemZ9\ 715219588QQcategoryZ50593QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Do a search on eBay for " audio transformer " and you may find others. I have even used several inexpensive 100V PA line matching transformers with the HV windings wired in series. There are two advantages of these over auto coils. First, the 4-8 ohm primary side is already impedance matched to most commercial amps. Secondly, the frequency response curve will be flatter. Naturally, the secondary voltage rating must be adhered to within reason, ie. one would not put 100VAC on the primary and expect to draw 10KV at very much current. The windings will soon short out. If we attach importance to instantaneous rise times for higher harmonics, as in square waves, transformers are somewhat limiting however. They tend to soften the waveform and interact reactively with the amp output. A solid state switch would be faster. But then ionized gas tubes can impose their own non-linearities. Nielsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hi Ian, This what me & Alvin were driving at:- Dr. Ian wrote, [ " We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output " ] This will sure help much better than with flyback board left inside. Healthy Regards, Gesi Re: RB tube losing power > Hi Ken, > > > Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from > the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from > our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating > another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having > wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even > an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing > an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is > impressive as hell. > > Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really > hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency > spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological > reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but > there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper. > > Best to All, > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hi, That's right. What they talk abt resonance must be that of flyback circuit resonance frequency. Globes do not hv resonance of their own, not in our range. gesi ================== Re: RB tube losing power > Hi Warren, > > Good questions all: > > > d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as > they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Depending on their construction, gas tubes, vapor lamps, etc. do have an acoustic resonance. This is a design consideration for 60Hz lighting in that it causes unwanted flickering. However, it is similar to a tuned radio antenna and has benefits for transmitted frequency effects. Nielsen >What they talk abt resonance must be that of flyback circuit resonance >frequency. > > d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as > > they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi Ian, Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool. Please Keep up the good work. > Hi Ian, > > You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. > > What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) > > I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your instructions. > > * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. > I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit the bill ? > > * Pure sine waves only. > > * No modulation. > > * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. > > I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > http://heal-me.com.au > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi, Yes, our 18 inch Plasma Globe unit is custom made for us by blowers in Tianjin, near Beijing. The 12 inch units are available at Spencer Gifts in the United States. As far as the automotive flyback style, it is the only style in use in modern automobiles, any made in the last 6 years or so. There are two types, can style and flyback. I am not familiar with MSD8227, probably and American number. A flyback style is a visible coil wrapped around part of a metal core. It will typically have one single HV output which goes to the distributor or ignition module and then an input consisting of 2 or three small terminals close together to fit a molex plug or spade connectors. These terminals will be your + and - terminals, plus a redundant -. On a can style coil, it is like it was on your father's car, depending on your age maybe grandpa's car too. It is shaped like a small canister with a single HV output on top and then on eitther side of that output will be a + screw terminal and a - terminal thusly marked. Copper wool is quite common at chemists and at more discriminating hardware vendors. Also, science supply shops will sell it. Keep on keeping on, thanks for the good words, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. Xeender wrote: Hi Ian, Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool. Please Keep up the good work. > Hi Ian, > > You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. > > What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) > > I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your instructions. > > * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. > I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit the bill ? > > * Pure sine waves only. > > * No modulation. > > * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. > > I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > http://heal-me.com.au > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of answers through unrelenting search. > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi Uzo, The industry name for these coils is " E-core " (the shape of the iron core). These coils just happen to look like a TV or monitor flyback. If the coil looks rather square it is an E-core type. This does include the 8227. According to my tests these don't seem to be any better than the can shaped coils. This includes E-field (using a Trifield meter) and frequency response from 10Hz to 10kHz (judging by the light output of the tube), and heat. Maybe I missed something. Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... X> Hi Ian, X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool. X> Please Keep up the good work. X> >> Hi Ian, >> >> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. >> >> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) >> >> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your X> instructions. >> >> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. >> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil X> wouldn't fit the bill ? >> >> * Pure sine waves only. >> >> * No modulation. >> >> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. >> >> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more X> information. >> >> Regards, >> Ken Uzzell >> http://heal-me.com.au >> >> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of X> answers through unrelenting search. >> >> --------------------------------- >> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi Ian, Are you sure you don't mean 0.4 ohms? (that's about what I'm using with good results). 4 ohms will really cut the performance at the very low end (a few Hz). The primary resistance varies widely among coils. The exact resistance should be tailored to the coil being used. I've seen some coils with only 0.2 ohm windings and some with 1.5 ohms and higher. For people that want this more " plug and play " I recommend the Blue Bosch coils (over one ohm resistance - resistor may not bee needed). Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... X> Hi Ian, X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool. X> Please Keep up the good work. X> >> Hi Ian, >> >> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. >> >> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) >> >> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your X> instructions. >> >> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. >> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil X> wouldn't fit the bill ? >> >> * Pure sine waves only. >> >> * No modulation. >> >> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. >> >> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more X> information. >> >> Regards, >> Ken Uzzell >> http://heal-me.com.au >> >> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of X> answers through unrelenting search. >> >> --------------------------------- >> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi Bil, Actually, we are using a large 4 Ohm Resistor with ours. This is in order to balance our coil (equipped with balancing core unit) to the amplifier's output. Ours is a ceramic wirewound resistor. This actually enhances performance rather than hurting it as one might think just running the numbers. It seems to have a flattening effect on input but does require its own heat sink. " E " Core must be an American designation for this type of coil, works for me. Here it is called TJ Coil, or TJ series. Ours are rated at a constant output of 53KV with constant 13.8V input under optimal conditions and come equipped with a monstrous heat sink. Best, Ian MacLeod Bil Green wrote: Hi Ian, Are you sure you don't mean 0.4 ohms? (that's about what I'm using with good results). 4 ohms will really cut the performance at the very low end (a few Hz). The primary resistance varies widely among coils. The exact resistance should be tailored to the coil being used. I've seen some coils with only 0.2 ohm windings and some with 1.5 ohms and higher. For people that want this more " plug and play " I recommend the Blue Bosch coils (over one ohm resistance - resistor may not bee needed). Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... X> Hi Ian, X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool. X> Please Keep up the good work. X> >> Hi Ian, >> >> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts. >> >> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-) >> >> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your X> instructions. >> >> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz. >> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil X> wouldn't fit the bill ? >> >> * Pure sine waves only. >> >> * No modulation. >> >> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy. >> >> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more X> information. >> >> Regards, >> Ken Uzzell >> http://heal-me.com.au >> >> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of X> answers through unrelenting search. >> >> --------------------------------- >> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 What is the advantage of replacing and using copper wool over the steel wool in a plasma globe? Forgive me for being electronically illiterate here, but I am a bit confused. I would like to experiment with replacing my traditional phanotron tube (on rife/bare machine) with a store bought novelty globe. I don't quite understand how I should hook it up. I understand you connect the positive wire from my plasma tube impedance matcher (Bare's modified MFJ 949E antenna tuner) to the copper wool inside the globe, BUT how is the circuit completed with the negative wire? Does the negative wire need to be connected some where to the plasma globe? thanks, doug ps. I am also using Bare's OM-1 transmitter and his 300 watt PEP amplifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ian & all, My information regarding the resonant frequency of a plasma globe came from the article " Plasma Displays & Inert Gas Discharge Tubes " available at the link below. Resonance is discussed in the section starting on page 7 titled " The plasma display power supply " . In re- reading the article I see that the described resonance is a product of the entire circuit, plasma ball plus power supply. http://www.mnsi.net/~boucher/PlasmaDisplays.pdf Warren d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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