RB tube losing power

[Guest guest]

Will a tube lose light or gas after a few years? My tube is expecially

becoming less responsive to pulsing. It is run by f 100.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all

glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've

been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just

keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ?

Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that

which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and

use a flyback transformer.

You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even

when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may "

display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think

?

Regards,

Ken

Re: RB tube losing power

Hi, this depends on:

1. If you are using the electrodes to ignite plasma or if you have collars

on the tube.

2. If the tube has been subjected to extensive operating sessions and/or

temperatures.

3. If the tube has undergone any recent trauma such as shaking or banging.

1. Using the electrodes will eventually (sooner than you think) burn out the

electrodes and may well " dope " the noble gas with other polluting elements given

off by the electrodes themselves as they are stimulating the gas plasma.

Eventually the tlectrodes also become too short, physically, lacking the surface

area needed for efficient ignition and thus, become finicky. Also, if allowed

to burn too short they can provide a miniscule airway through the glass at the

point of electrode insertion that results in loss of noble gas or further

pollution of the noble gas by external elements.

I hope this has been of help.

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

P.S. If you are using collars, try moving them to a new part of the glass

wall on the tube and shortening the leads from your coil unit to the collar.

missourinaturegirl wrote:

Will a tube lose light or gas after a few years? My tube is expecially

becoming less responsive to pulsing. It is run by f 100.

[Guest guest]

Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse. As

I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of the

radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the plasma.

If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not connect a

low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF

transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell them

on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts.

Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn

them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also the

safety implications of HVAC from the secondary.

Nielsen

>What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They

>are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken,

We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much in fact that

we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us. These things are amazing!

As for life expectancy ... indefinite. Due to the simplicity of its " single

electrode " design and the fact that its electrode is steel wool (we are using a

copper wool at present even in the store bought models) which is easily

extracted and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this:

According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood of these

globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less than 35 years! It

all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon gas due to inevitable

contaminants let in during manufacturing and their detrimental effects on the

gas's ability to plasmate easily.

Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the

plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007

unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal

(30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even

with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects

are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in

biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell.

Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing "

the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our

evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically

when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to

write one heck of a white paper.

Best to All,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi Ian,

What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all

glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've

been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just

keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ?

Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and that

which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts and

use a flyback transformer.

You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass, even

when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this " may "

display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you think

?

Regards,

Ken

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[Guest guest]

,

You are on to it. So many people are so busy overcomplicating the mechanics

that they lose sight of the fact that the only complication is in the gathering

and interpretation of data and refinement of technique.

Yours,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Nielsen wrote:

Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse. As

I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of the

radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the plasma.

If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not connect a

low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF

transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell them

on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts.

Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn

them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also the

safety implications of HVAC from the secondary.

Nielsen

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[Guest guest]

Ian,

Most intriguing, thanks for posting this modification. Actually, I have long

been musing with the same idea, of directly connecting those " storm " plasma

globes as one would a rife plasma or phanotron tube. Strip the original company

electronics, I would just like to substitute it for a phanotron tube. I am

currently using a rife/bare machine. Are you saying all I have to do is

substitute one globe for the conventional rife tube, no other modifications,

needed?

any advice would be greatly appreciated,

doug

Re: RB tube losing power

Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the

plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007

unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal

(30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even

with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects

are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in

biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell.

Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing "

the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our

evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically

when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to

write one heck of a white paper.

Best to All,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

Your comments raise a bunch of questions...

* What differences do you observe with using larger globes?

* What voltage are you using to drive the globes?

* I've read that one should be careful not to drive the plasma globe

with too high of a voltage lest X-rays be produced. Have you any

observations regarding this?

* I've read that a plasma globe has a natural resonant frequency, and

deviating from this frequency yields inefficient operation. Since you

are driving the globes without modulating a carrier frequency have

you noticed any differences in heating of your driver electronics

depending on the frequency being run?

* To what cause do you attribute the 42% increase in effects? How was

this determined?

* What is the IM007 unit?

* Frequencies above the audio spectrum are indicated as being primary

MORs (ie cancer MORs in the low MHz). How much higher in frequency

have you tried operating? Have you tried running higher octaves of

known effective frequencies? What biological reactions are you

testing for? What sort of speculations as to why the drop in

effectiveness beyond audio frequencies?

Cheers, Warren

Hi Ken,

We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much

in fact that we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us.

These things are amazing! As for life expectancy ... indefinite.

Due to the simplicity of its " single electrode " design and the fact

that its electrode is steel wool (we are using a copper wool at

present even in the store bought models) which is easily extracted

and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this:

According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood

of these globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less

than 35 years! It all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon

gas due to inevitable contaminants let in during manufacturing and

their detrimental effects on the gas's ability to plasmate easily.

Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback

transformer from the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly

to our HV output from our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and

it avoids modulating another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted

harmonics. We are having wonderful success even with the huge 18

inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects are

amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase

in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell.

Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really

hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency

spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological

reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know

why but there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper.

Best to All,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi Ian,

What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They

are all glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes

in the ball. I've been running them almost continuously for 3 months

now and no change, they just keep on keeping on. Will these type of

plasma balls break down some way ?

Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the

plasma and that which is on the body is very true, but they are only

about 15 to 20 watts and use a flyback transformer.

You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the

glass, even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a

while back this " may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma.

Could this be true do you think ?

Regards,

Ken

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will

be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

instructions.

* A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit

the bill ?

* Pure sine waves only.

* No modulation.

* wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

Frex - CHIamp

Re: RB tube losing power

Hi Ken,

We are having tremendous success with the plasma globes, so much in fact

that we have had some 12 and 18 inch models blown for us. These things are

amazing! As for life expectancy ... indefinite. Due to the simplicity of its

" single electrode " design and the fact that its electrode is steel wool (we are

using a copper wool at present even in the store bought models) which is easily

extracted and replaced if ever necessary with a pair of forceps. Know this:

According to our engineering staff there seems little likelihood of these

globes breaking down even under continuous heavy use in less than 35 years! It

all has to do with the eventual decay of the argon gas due to inevitable

contaminants let in during manufacturing and their detrimental effects on the

gas's ability to plasmate easily.

Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the

plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our IM007

unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal

(30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even

with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects

are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in

biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell.

Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really hearing "

the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as our

evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops dramatically

when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough speculation to

write one heck of a white paper.

Best to All,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi Ian,

What is the score on using the novelty plasma lamps from China. They are all

glass, one electrode, tesla type system. No metal electrodes in the ball. I've

been running them almost continuously for 3 months now and no change, they just

keep on keeping on. Will these type of plasma balls break down some way ?

Are you aware of these novelty lamps ? The signal coming out the plasma and

that which is on the body is very true, but they are only about 15 to 20 watts

and use a flyback transformer.

You can clearly hear the audio note in the plasma, tone against the glass,

even when the microphone can is removed. Someone suggested a while back this

" may " display the purity of the signal in the plasma. Could this be true do you

think ?

Regards,

Ken

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[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

Does AF Transformer mean Audio Frequency Transformer ?

Regards

Ken

>

> Current within a single electrode tube cannot be made to reverse.

As

> I understand it, this reversal has a bearing on the efficacy of

the

> radiation, due to the generation of a kind of shock wave in the

plasma.

>

> If you want a ready-made, audio frequency solution, why not

connect a

> low wattage fluorescent tube to your home stereo via a good AF

> transformer? People pull them out of old valve radios and sell

them

> on eBay. Wired in reverse, they can deliver a few hundred volts.

> Generate your signals with freeware, such as " GoldWave " , and burn

> them to CD. Watch the load rating and signal levels though. Also

the

> safety implications of HVAC from the secondary.

>

> Nielsen

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug,

Alvin Rose from Canada drives these 8 inch novelty plasma globes straight from

his EM7V, and has quite a bit of experience doing so. There would have to be in

excess of 50,000 volts in the globe. Alvin says the E Field is pegged at 100% on

the TriField, 10 feet from the globe. He just sticks the HV wire up the center

electrode chamber, into the steel wool coil inside the electrode tip.

Even the PMR should make a song and dance here.

Regards,

Ken

Re: RB tube losing power

Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from

the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from our

IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating another signal

(30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having wonderful success even

with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even an issue, but the effects

are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing an effectiveness increase in

biological reactions of nearly 42% which is impressive as hell.

Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really

hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency spectrum as

our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological reaction drops

dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but there is enough

speculation to write one heck of a white paper.

Best to All,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Yes, audio frequency. The response and linearity will vary depending

on how it is built. Lots of steel is best to minimize saturation at

lower frequencies. In valve circuits these couple the HV output of

the amp to the 8 ohm speaker(s) by substantially lowering the signal

voltage. To drive a tube, it is wired in reverse to step up voltage

for ionization. Accordingly, you want as high a turns ratio as

possible but within 4-8 ohms on the low side or the amp output will

be reduced. The following ones currently at auction (not mine) are a

perfect example.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-5k-Audio-Output-Transformer-for-SE-amplifier_W0QQitemZ9\

715219588QQcategoryZ50593QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do a search on eBay for " audio transformer " and you may find others.

I have even used several inexpensive 100V PA line matching

transformers with the HV windings wired in series.

There are two advantages of these over auto coils. First, the 4-8 ohm

primary side is already impedance matched to most commercial amps.

Secondly, the frequency response curve will be flatter. Naturally,

the secondary voltage rating must be adhered to within reason,

ie. one would not put 100VAC on the primary and expect to draw 10KV

at very much current. The windings will soon short out.

If we attach importance to instantaneous rise times for higher

harmonics, as in square waves, transformers are somewhat limiting

however. They tend to soften the waveform and interact reactively

with the amp output. A solid state switch would be faster. But then

ionized gas tubes can impose their own non-linearities.

Nielsen

>Does AF Transformer mean Audio Frequency Transformer ?

[Guest guest]

Dear Polo,

That is correct. Substitute the globe for your Phanatron or other plasma tube.

Direct substitution and you have an excellent single electrode tube. Fact is,

our tests have shown conclusively that the gas mixture (here goes the firestorm

of replies) makes absolutely no difference whatsoever insofar as biological

results are concerned. The argon used in the plasma globe works just as well as

" E " Gas or any other " special " or " proprietary mixture " of gasses.

Go forth and globe it.

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

polo wrote: Ian,

Most intriguing, thanks for posting this modification. Actually, I have

long been musing with the same idea, of directly connecting those " storm "

plasma globes as one would a rife plasma or phanotron tube. Strip the original

company electronics, I would just like to substitute it for a phanotron tube. I

am currently using a rife/bare machine. Are you saying all I have to do is

substitute one globe for the conventional rife tube, no other modifications,

needed?

any advice would be greatly appreciated,

doug

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unrelenting search.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Warren,

Good questions all:

a. A larger globe is as easily ignited as the smaller ones. We notice that

the larger globes give a much more " even " spread across any particular frequency

set that we are transmitting. This is due to the increased active surface

available from a larger plasma quantity.

b. We are applying, typically, 20-30KV No Load Volts in a sinusoidal waveform.

c. It is true that X-Ray production is possible at too high voltage or too low

frequencies, but significant production of radiation in this spectrum has not

been noted in any of our experiments ... although it has been sought out.

d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as they

are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas.

e. Because our coils are both balanced for sinusoidal production and cooled

with huge heat sinks and fans, there is no heating issue. Our coils do not

reach saturation as we have managed to balance them pretty well these days

through the use of a variable resistance " floating " core unit.

f. The 42% increase is measured through a set of standardised biological

reaction examinations in a fixed protocol that we have developed for such

measurements in order to monitor our own progress.

g. The IM007 is our analogue production unit, a product of our own engineering

crew here in-house.

h. Frequencies above the audio spectrum may be indicated as MOR's but are not

from a credible laboratory testing environment and are anectdotal at best. We

have run frequencies as high as 1Ghz and as low as 1Hz and have determined that

for reasons as yet not fully understood the audio spectrum is where we need to

concentrate and in sinusoidal waveform only.

Always,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

* Frequencies above the audio spectrum are indicated as being primary

MORs (ie cancer MORs in the low MHz). How much higher in frequency

have you tried operating? Have you tried running higher octaves of

known effective frequencies? What biological reactions are you

testing for? What sort of speculations as to why the drop in

effectiveness beyond audio frequencies?

Cheers, Warren

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ken,

So many thanks for the praise, it is rare but appreciated. My guys here also

send their thanks and gratitude as they have begun monitoring these emails

really closely and are now discussing them in our meetings and brainstormings.

For your HV Transformer, pick up an automotive " flyback style " coil with a 4

Ohm Resistor externally mounted. We have had much more luck with these than the

canister types as far as " noise " and stability go. Also the saturation is less

of a problem with the flyback style. I can help you balance it later.

Best to you, keep up your good efforts and share, share, share.

Yours,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Hi Ian,

You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone here will

be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

instructions.

* A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil wouldn't fit

the bill ?

* Pure sine waves only.

* No modulation.

* wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more information.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your clarity.

I noticed Ian said 12.5kHz was the top limit, so it would be a pity not to be

able to get there because the coil wouldn't go there.

From Ian's hints to-date, it really appears he has found great value in focusing

sine waves at certain frequencies to generate desired physiological responses.

Ian may have well found the secret of fascia trauma management, thus turning the

tide for so many illnesses.

Jim Bare was hinting about this type of work several months back.

Wow, we are living in exciting times.

Regards,

Ken

Re: Re: RB tube losing power

Yes, audio frequency. The response and linearity will vary depending

on how it is built. Lots of steel is best to minimize saturation at

lower frequencies. In valve circuits these couple the HV output of

the amp to the 8 ohm speaker(s) by substantially lowering the signal

voltage. To drive a tube, it is wired in reverse to step up voltage

for ionization. Accordingly, you want as high a turns ratio as

possible but within 4-8 ohms on the low side or the amp output will

be reduced. The following ones currently at auction (not mine) are a

perfect example.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-5k-Audio-Output-Transformer-for-SE-amplifier_W0QQitemZ9\

715219588QQcategoryZ50593QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do a search on eBay for " audio transformer " and you may find others.

I have even used several inexpensive 100V PA line matching

transformers with the HV windings wired in series.

There are two advantages of these over auto coils. First, the 4-8 ohm

primary side is already impedance matched to most commercial amps.

Secondly, the frequency response curve will be flatter. Naturally,

the secondary voltage rating must be adhered to within reason,

ie. one would not put 100VAC on the primary and expect to draw 10KV

at very much current. The windings will soon short out.

If we attach importance to instantaneous rise times for higher

harmonics, as in square waves, transformers are somewhat limiting

however. They tend to soften the waveform and interact reactively

with the amp output. A solid state switch would be faster. But then

ionized gas tubes can impose their own non-linearities.

Nielsen

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

This what me & Alvin were driving at:-

Dr. Ian wrote,

[ " We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from the

plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output " ]

This will sure help much better than with flyback board left inside.

Healthy Regards,

Gesi

Re: RB tube losing power

> Hi Ken,

>

>

> Note: We totally eliminate all electronics and flyback transformer from

> the plasma lamp and connect its electrode directly to our HV output from

> our IM007 unit. It is incredibly effective and it avoids modulating

> another signal (30Khz) which causes unwanted harmonics. We are having

> wonderful success even with the huge 18 inch unit and ignition is not even

> an issue, but the effects are amazing. Anecdotally, we are experiencing

> an effectiveness increase in biological reactions of nearly 42% which is

> impressive as hell.

>

> Try exciting the globe directly as we do and get ready for " really

> hearing " the hum. Also remember to stay within the audio frequency

> spectrum as our evidence shows that the effectiveness in biological

> reaction drops dramatically when you leave it. Don't exactly know why but

> there is enough speculation to write one heck of a white paper.

>

> Best to All,

>

> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That's right.

What they talk abt resonance must be that of flyback circuit resonance

frequency.

Globes do not hv resonance of their own, not in our range.

gesi

==================

Re: RB tube losing power

> Hi Warren,

>

> Good questions all:

>

>

> d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as

> they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas.

>

[Guest guest]

Depending on their construction, gas tubes, vapor lamps, etc. do have

an acoustic resonance. This is a design consideration for 60Hz

lighting in that it causes unwanted flickering. However, it is

similar to a tuned radio antenna and has benefits for transmitted

frequency effects.

Nielsen

>What they talk abt resonance must be that of flyback circuit resonance

>frequency.

> > d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant frequency " as

> > they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with argon gas.

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious

about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is

that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is

meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be

clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool.

Please Keep up the good work.

> Hi Ian,

>

> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone

here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

>

> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

>

> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

instructions.

>

> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil

wouldn't fit the bill ?

>

> * Pure sine waves only.

>

> * No modulation.

>

> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

>

> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more

information.

>

> Regards,

> Ken Uzzell

> http://heal-me.com.au

>

> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of

answers through unrelenting search.

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Yes, our 18 inch Plasma Globe unit is custom made for us by blowers in

Tianjin, near Beijing. The 12 inch units are available at Spencer Gifts in the

United States.

As far as the automotive flyback style, it is the only style in use in modern

automobiles, any made in the last 6 years or so. There are two types, can style

and flyback. I am not familiar with MSD8227, probably and American number. A

flyback style is a visible coil wrapped around part of a metal core. It will

typically have one single HV output which goes to the distributor or ignition

module and then an input consisting of 2 or three small terminals close together

to fit a molex plug or spade connectors. These terminals will be your + and -

terminals, plus a redundant -. On a can style coil, it is like it was on your

father's car, depending on your age maybe grandpa's car too. It is shaped like

a small canister with a single HV output on top and then on eitther side of that

output will be a + screw terminal and a - terminal thusly marked.

Copper wool is quite common at chemists and at more discriminating hardware

vendors. Also, science supply shops will sell it.

Keep on keeping on, thanks for the good words,

Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D.

Xeender wrote:

Hi Ian,

Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious

about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is

that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is

meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be

clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool.

Please Keep up the good work.

> Hi Ian,

>

> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone

here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

>

> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

>

> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

instructions.

>

> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil

wouldn't fit the bill ?

>

> * Pure sine waves only.

>

> * No modulation.

>

> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

>

> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more

information.

>

> Regards,

> Ken Uzzell

> http://heal-me.com.au

>

> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of

answers through unrelenting search.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help

slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Uzo,

The industry name for these coils is " E-core " (the shape of the

iron core). These coils just happen to look like a TV or monitor

flyback. If the coil looks rather square it is an E-core type.

This does include the 8227.

According to my tests these don't seem to be any better than the

can shaped coils. This includes E-field (using a Trifield meter)

and frequency response from 10Hz to 10kHz (judging by the light

output of the tube), and heat.

Maybe I missed something.

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

mailto:magpulser@...

X> Hi Ian,

X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious

X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is

X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is

X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be

X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool.

X> Please Keep up the good work.

X>

>> Hi Ian,

>>

>> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone

X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

>>

>> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

>>

>> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

X> instructions.

>>

>> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

>> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil

X> wouldn't fit the bill ?

>>

>> * Pure sine waves only.

>>

>> * No modulation.

>>

>> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

>>

>> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more

X> information.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Ken Uzzell

>> http://heal-me.com.au

>>

>> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of

X> answers through unrelenting search.

>>

>> ---------------------------------

>> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help

X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

Are you sure you don't mean 0.4 ohms? (that's about what I'm

using with good results). 4 ohms will really cut the performance

at the very low end (a few Hz).

The primary resistance varies widely among coils. The exact

resistance should be tailored to the coil being used. I've seen

some coils with only 0.2 ohm windings and some with 1.5 ohms and

higher.

For people that want this more " plug and play " I recommend the

Blue Bosch coils (over one ohm resistance - resistor may not bee

needed).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

mailto:magpulser@...

X> Hi Ian,

X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious

X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is

X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is

X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be

X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool.

X> Please Keep up the good work.

X>

>> Hi Ian,

>>

>> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone

X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

>>

>> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

>>

>> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

X> instructions.

>>

>> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

>> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil

X> wouldn't fit the bill ?

>>

>> * Pure sine waves only.

>>

>> * No modulation.

>>

>> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

>>

>> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more

X> information.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Ken Uzzell

>> http://heal-me.com.au

>>

>> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of

X> answers through unrelenting search.

>>

>> ---------------------------------

>> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help

X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bil,

Actually, we are using a large 4 Ohm Resistor with ours. This is in order to

balance our coil (equipped with balancing core unit) to the amplifier's output.

Ours is a ceramic wirewound resistor.

This actually enhances performance rather than hurting it as one might think

just running the numbers. It seems to have a flattening effect on input but

does require its own heat sink.

" E " Core must be an American designation for this type of coil, works for me.

Here it is called TJ Coil, or TJ series. Ours are rated at a constant output of

53KV with constant 13.8V input under optimal conditions and come equipped with a

monstrous heat sink.

Best,

Ian MacLeod

Bil Green wrote:

Hi Ian,

Are you sure you don't mean 0.4 ohms? (that's about what I'm

using with good results). 4 ohms will really cut the performance

at the very low end (a few Hz).

The primary resistance varies widely among coils. The exact

resistance should be tailored to the coil being used. I've seen

some coils with only 0.2 ohm windings and some with 1.5 ohms and

higher.

For people that want this more " plug and play " I recommend the

Blue Bosch coils (over one ohm resistance - resistor may not bee

needed).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

mailto:magpulser@...

X> Hi Ian,

X> Excellent stuff. I am really impressed by your work. I am curious

X> about something though.You made mention of a 12 or 18inch unit. Is

X> that store bought or custom made. I would also like to know what is

X> meant by automotive " flyback style " transformer. Would the msd 8227 be

X> clasiffied as a " flyback style " . I didn't know there was copper wool.

X> Please Keep up the good work.

X>

>> Hi Ian,

>>

>> You knock my socks off with the work you are doing. I think everyone

X> here will be in great debt and priase of your efforts.

>>

>> What I would give to be a fly on the wall in your labourites :-)

>>

>> I've been closely following everything you say and will follow your

X> instructions.

>>

>> * A HV transformer capable to 12.5kHz.

>> I see you had one custom made. I guess a high quality motor coil

X> wouldn't fit the bill ?

>>

>> * Pure sine waves only.

>>

>> * No modulation.

>>

>> * wool replaces the stainless steel wool, easy.

>>

>> I can't wait until you are in a position to be able to share more

X> information.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Ken Uzzell

>> http://heal-me.com.au

>>

>> Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D., Liao Ning Research Group. In pursuit of

X> answers through unrelenting search.

>>

>> ---------------------------------

>> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help

X> slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

What is the advantage of replacing and using copper wool over the

steel wool in a plasma globe?

Forgive me for being electronically illiterate here, but I am a bit confused. I

would like to experiment with replacing my traditional phanotron tube (on

rife/bare machine) with a store bought novelty globe. I don't quite understand

how I should hook it up. I understand you connect the positive wire from my

plasma tube impedance matcher (Bare's modified MFJ 949E antenna tuner) to the

copper wool inside the globe, BUT how is the circuit completed with the negative

wire? Does the negative wire need to be connected some where to the plasma

globe?

thanks,

doug

ps. I am also using Bare's OM-1 transmitter and his 300 watt PEP amplifier.

[Guest guest]

Ian & all,

My information regarding the resonant frequency of a plasma globe

came from the article " Plasma Displays & Inert Gas Discharge Tubes "

available at the link below. Resonance is discussed in the section

starting on page 7 titled " The plasma display power supply " . In re-

reading the article I see that the described resonance is a product

of the entire circuit, plasma ball plus power supply.

http://www.mnsi.net/~boucher/PlasmaDisplays.pdf

Warren

d. Plasma Globes, in themselves, have no " natural resonant

frequency " as they are nothing more than a glass glove filled with

argon gas.