Re: Casein and Osteoporosis

[Guest guest]

>Just finished reading " The Wellness Revolution " by Zane Pilzer.

>On page 81 he says, " Several studies have concluded that drinking milk is more

likely to cause than to prevent osteoporosis which is the result of calcium

leaching out of the bones and is not directly associated with calcium intake,

but because the amount and type of protein (casein) in milk results in a great

loss of calcium in the bones.

>having not heard this before, can anyone comment on the casein and osteo

relationship?

>

>

> S. Pritchard (VSP)

I can't say for casein exactly, but casein intolerance acts somewhat

like gluten intolerance, and in gluten intolerance, there is a VERY well

established connection with osteoporosis. In that case it isn't

a direct connection between gluten and calcium ... but the immune

reaction to gluten fouls up calcium usage big time, causing it to

leach from the bones, the enamel on the teeth to be thin,

and causing it to form calcium deposits in the wrong places

(like the brain, causing seizures). Since about 1/3 of the US probably

reacts to gluten, I suspect this is a BIG cause of osteo in this

country. And something similar might happen for casein, though

it hasn't been studied much. (soy, eggs, and yeast can have a similar

reaction too).

Protein in general seems to require calcium to be processed though,

that is a different issue. I don't think it's a good reason to

avoid protein: folks who eat lots of protein AND a lot of calcium

have better bones. It's just that carnivores are supposed to be

crunching the bones along with the meat ...

>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Thanks Heidi. Do you have any books or URL's you can recommend that I can read

more about this subject matter. vsp

Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

>Just finished reading " The Wellness Revolution " by Zane Pilzer.

>On page 81 he says, " Several studies have concluded that drinking milk is more

likely to cause than to prevent osteoporosis which is the result of calcium

leaching out of the bones and is not directly associated with calcium intake,

but because the amount and type of protein (casein) in milk results in a great

loss of calcium in the bones.

>having not heard this before, can anyone comment on the casein and osteo

relationship?

>

>

> S. Pritchard (VSP)

I can't say for casein exactly, but casein intolerance acts somewhat

like gluten intolerance, and in gluten intolerance, there is a VERY well

established connection with osteoporosis. In that case it isn't

a direct connection between gluten and calcium ... but the immune

reaction to gluten fouls up calcium usage big time, causing it to

leach from the bones, the enamel on the teeth to be thin,

and causing it to form calcium deposits in the wrong places

(like the brain, causing seizures). Since about 1/3 of the US probably

reacts to gluten, I suspect this is a BIG cause of osteo in this

country. And something similar might happen for casein, though

it hasn't been studied much. (soy, eggs, and yeast can have a similar

reaction too).

Protein in general seems to require calcium to be processed though,

that is a different issue. I don't think it's a good reason to

avoid protein: folks who eat lots of protein AND a lot of calcium

have better bones. It's just that carnivores are supposed to be

crunching the bones along with the meat ...

>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>Thanks Heidi. Do you have any books or URL's you can recommend that I can read

more about this subject matter. vsp

Dangerous Grains is my main source .. you can Google on " gluten osteoporisis "

for the gluten/osteo

link, or " gluten calcium " . The idea that casein IgA intolerance and gluten IgA

intolerance act

similarly is more speculative ... they have done some studies on kids where they

get

the same kind of villi damage from casein, and there is anecdotal evidence from

people

who seem to react to both, but the case in DG is that the IgA reactions are in

fact

very similar and one would expect than all the IgA reactions might act similarly

to the

one with gluten, which has been very well studied ... kind of like how if you

have

and IgE reaction to cats or an IgE reaction to dogs, both will cause sneezing

and

eye watering.

Heidi Jean