: Re: Grants

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Capitals are used

for emphasis. In emails and IM’s it is particularly emphatic. However, it

is also harder to read to use NO caps. This should not be a topic for

discussion.

Facts:

Fire, police

protection, infrastructure and considerably different from monies given to

private entities for improvement of their business enterprises.

And while you may feel it is a good thing to have funds

distributed to offer specialized computer experience for a select few, unless it was private money

I do not agree.

If you “ need EQUIP

money to purchase trees to extend my grove and create a create a wind buffer

for our livestock please don't criticize me about it” I certainly do feel within parameters to be critical of

a program that takes my money and my children’s and neighbor’s and

parents’ money and gives it to you. ESPECIALLY if it is helpful in

creating propaganda to facilitate the growth of support for the NAIS. The

invasive government control that is growing is part and parcel of the whole

system where people are given something for “nothing” and vote for

legislators on the basis of “gimmees” and the legislators allow

themselves, in turn, to be bought off by the bigger and more powerful to do

things like, well, um, outlaw raw milk…..

A democracy cannot exist as a

permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters

discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.

When buying and

selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold

are legislators. " P.J. O'Rourke

" Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car

keys to teenage boys. " P.J. O'Rourke

If you

love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the

animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your

counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your

chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our

countrymen.

, 1776

See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas

when the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they do

with it. Bake it into pies, probably. Anything to avoid creating jobs. -- Dave Barry

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of

chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may

take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!- Henry

www.MajestyFarm.com

" The average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths

imaginary. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty --

and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies. " -- H.L. Mencken

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Tramar Farms

Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006

11:07 AM

To: RawDairy

Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re:

Re: Grants

a local fire

department in a very small town near me just got a grant to help buy a new fire

truck. our ag instructor received a grant (don't know who from) to

purchase a $15,000 laser cutting machine. It engraves in plastic, wood

glass etc. He got this to enable the kids to have experience with

the computer programs. these are all good things. And if I need

EQUIP money to purchase trees to extend my grove and create a create a wind

buffer for our livestock please don't criticize me about it. i'm here to

talk about dairy issues and the one issue that i originally addressed was that

there are monies available to put in fencing and watering systems etc.

The intent was to inform not start a discussion about what is right or wrong

about government spending.

your opinion and

displeasure, bob, has been dulely noted to the group. If

you don't like the programs then take it up with your

congressman. and that wasn't said maliciously.

oh, a side note to the

group: if you use capital letters while talking on the internet (unless

you are in a group that requires it for easier reading) those words in all caps

are considered to be shouted. please use emoticons to express

feelings. need to know more?? talk to any teenager who in on MSN!

Re: Grants

And as I said before, anybody who buys ANYTHING, uses the roads or

sends their child to a public school (oh I forgot police & fire, so

if you've ever needed or called the police department or fire

department too) -- is a hipocrit for saying that small farmers are

thiefs for being willing to accept government grants because they are

thiefs too.

So can we all just play nice.

" Tramar Farms " wrote:

ok. so you don't like farming grants? what about other grants?

From: Bob Hayles

There is NOTHING positive about farming grants...they are theft of

taxpayer money for the benefit of a farm, be it large or small...and

as for you telling me what I can abd cannot post here, I don't believe

you are a moderator or list owner.

Bob

" Charity " <Charity@> wrote:

First, Please do not make this post-topic political. That is getting

very old. The raw dairy group specifically has a NO POLITICS policy.

If you don't have anything positive or useful in the context of

farming grants then just DON'T POST!

This is the best index I found today.

www.sba.gov/services/financialassistance/grants/index.html

Trivia andra <trivia@> wrote:

If anyone knows that there is help for small farmers, grants,

subsidies, you name it.....please post where to apply, so I can

apply.....thanks,

Trivia andra

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