Re: Oh, poop!

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In a message dated 2/18/2006 8:01:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

shyquietsue@... writes:

No sugars? No flours? Just meat and eggs and cheese?

Thanks,

Sue

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I finnd eating popcorn helps the BM situation. Other than that chronic poop

problems in the morning are a way of life. Tater chips and other greasy stuff

are toxic, I eat bread and pretty much what I want, and not much changes.

Marta swears by the sprouted grain bread, but it is hard to get here and my

family hates it so I use regular wheat bread. Some have found that basically a

atkins type diet helps. Anyway, this is my 2 cents worth.....

Mel in Alabama

(Hoping for snow)

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No advice from me, Sue. For three years + I have had chronic diarrhea. I

haven't have more than 5 solid BMs in all that time it's always like

pudding-watered down pudding. It doesn't matter what I eat, it's all the

same. Dr.K is puzzled by it. I always have a change of clothes with me - all

the time, because I never know when it will strike, and if I'm not close to

the bathroom, well, you get the pic.

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Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:01 PM

To: DS_Friends_Keshishian

Subject: Oh, poop!

Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can eat

(at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties for

my choices.

I don't want to start each day with an Immodium. So WHAT should I try

to eat such that I am not producing...well... " novelty feces? " Suffice

it to say that I am delighted that I got my American Biffy installed

as a pre-op. http://www.biffy.com/viewdoc.asp?cat=0

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No sugars? No flours? Just meat and eggs and cheese?

Thanks,

Sue

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Hi Sue,

I can no longer tolerate dairy so milk products (some of them) give me the worst

diarhea. If I over do it on the sugars I will also get diarhea. Some people

have a really hard time with fried foods. I don't eat too much fried foods but

I can put ranch on my salad with out any consequences. I guess I am lucky

because basically it is only some milk products and too much sugar that gives me

the problem. Now, gas is a whole other issue, lol.

--

Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirthis heaviness.

Proverbs 13:14

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Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can eat

(at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties for

my choices.

I don't want to start each day with an Immodium. So WHAT should I try

to eat such that I am not producing...well... " novelty feces? " Suffice

it to say that I am delighted that I got my American Biffy installed

as a pre-op.

[Guest guest]

Sue... There are some of us who continue to have difficulties. I am 4

years post op and it is just a part of my life. Without a doubt, the

greatest improvement in my life was when Marta strongly suggested to me that

I start using bread made from sprouts rather than flour. (BTW, I tried

going no flour and ended up in the most distress of all!) Some people will

say no fat, but I tried no fat... the diarrhea remained the same... only my

intestinal tract was massively enflamed. It appears that some fat in my

diet is less distressing to my intestines.

So what's wrong with immodium? I don't take it everyday, but I do carry it

with me. The other thing I use... which Dr. K is not in favor of... is

Lomotil. I don't take it everyday, but then there are days where it appears

like my intestines want to spasm all day long! A lomotil is a MIRACLE

WORKER for that kind of spasm. Again, I don't use it all the time, but I

carry it with me for " one of those days. " For travel, I usually will take

flagyl with me.

My greatest success though is to allow sufficient time in the morning for my

intestinal tract to do its thing. I take a crossword book into the bathroom

and just take my time. I find that usually if I give myself enough time to

get most of the " work through " that I am not running back and forth to the

bathroom in a crisis.

Anyway, that's my routine. Hope somewhere in that digest there is some help

for you.

Elle

----- Original Message -----

From: shyquietsue

Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can eat

(at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties for

my choices.

I don't want to start each day with an Immodium.... -- Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue!

Definitely stay away from the flour. It's something we really need

to avoid, especially at your point post-op. You didn't mention if

your poops are oily or just super soft. If they are oily, that's

pretty simple. Avoid oily and fried foods. If they are super soft,

try taking some fiber. I take one Metamucil capsule every morning.

It's a lot less than they suggest, but I find it works for me at

four years out. You may need a few more. Also, Marta swears by

Ezekial bread for making your poop more firm. Also, try cutting

back to what you were eating before this happened and then adding

one food at a time for a week at a time and see how your body reacts.

Hope some of this helps!

Tracey

>

> Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

>

> Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can

eat

> (at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties

for

> my choices.

>

> I don't want to start each day with an Immodium. So WHAT should I

try

> to eat such that I am not producing...well... " novelty feces? "

Suffice

> it to say that I am delighted that I got my American Biffy

installed

> as a pre-op.

[Guest guest]

> No sugars? No flours? Just meat and eggs and cheese?

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Sue...I love my novelty feces! Lol...I also love that I now have a

new term for them!

As for your question. I subscribe to the club that says " you can

have it all " . Ok, there IS a catch. You can have it all

in " limited " quantities. Your sensitivity to sugar or flour or fat

(all triggers for gas and Novelty feces) may be greater or less than

mine, soooo...you have to find YOUR personal balance. And that

balance can change over time.

The basic rules for losing and keeping the weight off...plus eating

a " healthy " diet is basically as follows.

Protein & Veggies should be the bulk of your diet. (fyi, for some

people lettuce will send them trotting in the first 2 years)

In limited amounts...Grains and fruits. The more complex you can

make the carbs the better. Whole grains over white flour, Whole

fruits over juice (Juice is denser in calories and doesn't contain

as much fiber).

Diet-wise, Nuts and beans are great....potty-wise, use caution and

add slowly. Too many nuts can cause oilslicks, too many beans can

cause gas.

Avoiding Sugars and simple carbs are KEY in losing weight and

keeping it off....but...we are human and don't have to NEVER

indulge. Just indulge in occasional small amounts. Have a candy

treat...perhaps a hershey kiss. Enjoy it then walk away. I

followed a 3 bite rule. Three bites of cake...done. Three bites of

ice cream...done. The first three bites of anything is what taste

the best...after that your just eating because it's there.

Eat your protein and veggies till your Full, nibble at the carbs.

Limit the FAT to avoid some potty issue. Don't drink empty calories.

Hugs

Jo

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Pudding Poop Jim

What is your calcium intake? Adding calcium can help to form your

stool. When I added the cal-100 (it has 1000 mg. per package) All

of a sudden I had consistent formed stools. At the other end of the

spectrum...Dee says when she gets above 10,000 mg of calcium she

gets diaper-rea. (Dee is now taking 8000 mg. a day). I take 2000-

3000 mg. a day.

Imodium would slow down the number of times I went potty but it

never had an affect on the consistency.

Just a thought.

To those who have a tendency towards constipation, fissures,

Roids...beware, use caution.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

caution with calcium? please do tell... i am having a horrendous bout of

fissures right now hoping they heal soon and on their own...but have caution

with what? Thanks!

Jenni

Jo wrote:

Pudding Poop Jim

What is your calcium intake? Adding calcium can help to form your

stool. When I added the cal-100 (it has 1000 mg. per package) All

of a sudden I had consistent formed stools. At the other end of the

spectrum...Dee says when she gets above 10,000 mg of calcium she

gets diaper-rea. (Dee is now taking 8000 mg. a day). I take 2000-

3000 mg. a day.

Imodium would slow down the number of times I went potty but it

never had an affect on the consistency.

Just a thought.

To those who have a tendency towards constipation, fissures,

Roids...beware, use caution.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

> caution with calcium? please do tell... i am having a horrendous

bout of fissures right now hoping they heal soon and on their

own...but have caution with what? Thanks!

>

> Jenni

=========================

Jenni

For some people Calcium can plug you up like cement. (Cause

constipation.) So...if your having fissure or roid problems be

careful with increasing calcium...do it slowly. Drink tons of water

and adding magnesium can help keep constipation under control. On

the other hand if your stool is loosey goosey, increasing calcium

can " sometimes " help.

I want it understood...taking at least 1500 mg of calcium is

MANDITORY. But...if...it is constipating you...try a different type

or brand, add Magnesium...increase fluids, eat fiber and EXERCISE to

keep the old plumbing moving along.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

I was starting to wonder where Jo was!!! All it takes is a little 'poop'

talk to get her back in the discussion!!!!!!!

Kristy

[Guest guest]

Jenni,

My fissure had all but healed up and I started taking vita-4-life. I didn't

take it a 4 days before my poop became as hard as cement, which flared the

fissure right back up and you know the rest of my story.

I take oscal and I hate them, but it doesn't seem to do that to me.

Everyone is different, though.

I wish, wish, wish, that I could do the vita-4-life.

le

Gr-ds w/Dr. K on July 5, 2005

336/205/?????????

Re: Re: Oh, poop!

caution with calcium? please do tell... i am having a horrendous bout of

fissures right now hoping they heal soon and on their own...but have caution

with what? Thanks!

Jenni

Jo wrote:

Pudding Poop Jim

What is your calcium intake? Adding calcium can help to form your

stool. When I added the cal-100 (it has 1000 mg. per package) All

of a sudden I had consistent formed stools. At the other end of the

spectrum...Dee says when she gets above 10,000 mg of calcium she

gets diaper-rea. (Dee is now taking 8000 mg. a day). I take 2000-

3000 mg. a day.

Imodium would slow down the number of times I went potty but it

never had an affect on the consistency.

Just a thought.

To those who have a tendency towards constipation, fissures,

Roids...beware, use caution.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

The DS by its design is *pooping* surgery! For some it gets better,

others accept it as their new normal. I am almost 4 years out and it

is my new normal. I knew it was a pooping surgery when I signed up

for it. WHat has taken me by most surprise is the amount of gas I

produce each day. Pardon my frankness, but I fart more now in ONE day

than I did in 10 days pre-op. I am a farting machine. Hopefully

someone will offer advice that will help - for me - I am off all

wheat products, eat very little dairy, take lots of calcium and still

poop and fart like crazy. It is my new normal.

hugs, cindy lee

>

> Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

>

> Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can

eat

> (at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties for

> my choices.

>

> I don't want to start each day with an Immodium. So WHAT should I

try

> to eat such that I am not producing...well... " novelty feces? "

Suffice

> it to say that I am delighted that I got my American Biffy installed

> as a pre-op.

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all who have shared information! Really!

My issue is not gas, just a recent bout of diarrhea. I can handle the

loose-ish stools, but this was more " insistent. "

I'm buying some Ezekial bread this afternoon, although I've just been

avoiding bread. I'll try to remember to take my second acidophilus

tablet every day. I already have lactaid. I thought that yogurt and

cheeses were, by virtue of their processing, already very low in

lactose. Sweets, huh? Well, that might be more of a

challenge...especially in the evening.

But I'll try all of this stuff!

Sue

[Guest guest]

I was beginning to wonder where YOU were, Kristy! How are things down

under? How's the hotel business going?

Hugs!

Tracey

>

> I was starting to wonder where Jo was!!! All it takes is a

little 'poop'

> talk to get her back in the discussion!!!!!!!

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

have you tried using dairy care .I have been using it for about 3 years now

and I can eat dairy with no problems. even before the surgery I could not

eat any dairy . and this is the only product that has work for me . take

care amber

Re: Oh, poop!

> Hi Sue,

>

> I can no longer tolerate dairy so milk products (some of them) give me the

> worst diarhea. If I over do it on the sugars I will also get diarhea.

> Some people have a really hard time with fried foods. I don't eat too

> much fried foods but I can put ranch on my salad with out any

> consequences. I guess I am lucky because basically it is only some milk

> products and too much sugar that gives me the problem. Now, gas is a

> whole other issue, lol.

>

>

>

> --

> Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirthis

> heaviness. Proverbs 13:14

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> Yup, that's my issue. Poop.

>

> Anybody want to share information? Now that I want to eat and can eat

> (at least on the INput side), I have encountered potty-penalties for

> my choices.

>

> I don't want to start each day with an Immodium. So WHAT should I try

> to eat such that I am not producing...well... " novelty feces? " Suffice

> it to say that I am delighted that I got my American Biffy installed

> as a pre-op.