Re: dyslexia/math

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In a message dated 11/29/2007 2:34:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,

fightingautism@... writes:

Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is what you're looking for Debi. It's called dyscalculia, and I only

ever had one student who had it in 15 years of teaching math. It was so

unmistakably worse than standard math difficulties. Every lesson was like the

movie " Fifty First Dates " , the next day it was as though he'd never seen it

before.

_Dyscalculia.org_ (http://www.dyscalculia.org/)

Would you want to consider a private evaluation?

When my daughter had problems with reading, well I may be a good math

teacher but I just don't know how to teach reading.... I took my daughter to a

good tutoring company for a formal evaluation. I chose Huntington Learning

Centers because I'd seen their work with students at my school, just excellent.

I paid, I think, about $150 for a 3-4 hour detailed evaluation.

Afterward, they were able to tell me exactly what the holes were in her

reading skills, and the tools and methods they would be able to use to fix

them.

They really considered everything, even Irlen Syndrome and other conditions

outside the norm.

I wish you luck!

Sandi (Allie's mom)

Houston

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In a message dated 11/29/2007 2:34:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,

fightingautism@... writes:

Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is what you're looking for Debi. It's called dyscalculia, and I only

ever had one student who had it in 15 years of teaching math. It was so

unmistakably worse than standard math difficulties. Every lesson was like the

movie " Fifty First Dates " , the next day it was as though he'd never seen it

before.

_Dyscalculia.org_ (http://www.dyscalculia.org/)

Would you want to consider a private evaluation?

When my daughter had problems with reading, well I may be a good math

teacher but I just don't know how to teach reading.... I took my daughter to a

good tutoring company for a formal evaluation. I chose Huntington Learning

Centers because I'd seen their work with students at my school, just excellent.

I paid, I think, about $150 for a 3-4 hour detailed evaluation.

Afterward, they were able to tell me exactly what the holes were in her

reading skills, and the tools and methods they would be able to use to fix

them.

They really considered everything, even Irlen Syndrome and other conditions

outside the norm.

I wish you luck!

Sandi (Allie's mom)

Houston

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products.

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Debi,

Abby is in 5th grade and I will tell you that last year was the first year

that Abby really started to " get it " as far as math is concerned. She pulled

her math grade up from a C- at the end of last year, to a B this past semester.

We did a lot of flash cards and things like that over the summer. Also, Abby

started playing the viola last year. Music equals brain power, cant began to

tell you the difference that it has made with her math comprehension and all

other subjects.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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Debi,

Abby is in 5th grade and I will tell you that last year was the first year

that Abby really started to " get it " as far as math is concerned. She pulled

her math grade up from a C- at the end of last year, to a B this past semester.

We did a lot of flash cards and things like that over the summer. Also, Abby

started playing the viola last year. Music equals brain power, cant began to

tell you the difference that it has made with her math comprehension and all

other subjects.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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products.

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Have you heard of Touch Math. It has worked with my daughter. She loves it. It

starts with basic addition and subtraction and goes up through multiplication

and division. You can go online to check it out. Just google Touch Math. My

school purchased it, but you can also buy it online.

Sara

dyslexia/math

I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

[Guest guest]

Have you heard of Touch Math. It has worked with my daughter. She loves it. It

starts with basic addition and subtraction and goes up through multiplication

and division. You can go online to check it out. Just google Touch Math. My

school purchased it, but you can also buy it online.

Sara

dyslexia/math

I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

[Guest guest]

Yes, we have the kit here at home. I don't think they used it very

long, that's one of my concerns. Thanks for the suggestion.

Debi

>

> Have you heard of Touch Math.

[Guest guest]

Yes, we have the kit here at home. I don't think they used it very

long, that's one of my concerns. Thanks for the suggestion.

Debi

>

> Have you heard of Touch Math.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sandi. I think I'm really freaking out because my now 38 yr old

brother, who I'm convinced has Asperger Syndrome, had the EXACT same

math problems Allie is showing. I want to talk to him about it, but he

quit talking to me when I told him Allie had autism. My mother is no

help either, she waited until he was a junior in high school to get

outside help and even then said it was " math anxiety. " I'm sorry, it

was far more than math anxiety.

I would consider a private eval, but the Sylvan centers here don't

even have sped teachers!!! I have heard similar from Huntington

Centers, but I should recheck. And at the end of the day, just so the

teachers they do have can teach I don't care about a piece of paper,

but I don't know how they would work with a child with autism.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sandi. I think I'm really freaking out because my now 38 yr old

brother, who I'm convinced has Asperger Syndrome, had the EXACT same

math problems Allie is showing. I want to talk to him about it, but he

quit talking to me when I told him Allie had autism. My mother is no

help either, she waited until he was a junior in high school to get

outside help and even then said it was " math anxiety. " I'm sorry, it

was far more than math anxiety.

I would consider a private eval, but the Sylvan centers here don't

even have sped teachers!!! I have heard similar from Huntington

Centers, but I should recheck. And at the end of the day, just so the

teachers they do have can teach I don't care about a piece of paper,

but I don't know how they would work with a child with autism.

Debi

[Guest guest]

My daughter Kailyn is in 5th grade now and still struggles with addition and

subtraction but that's because she's barely functioning at a 1st/2nd grade

level. She regressed horribly about 2 years ago and we've had to start over. It

depends on where Allie is developmentally. She might be exactly where she should

be developmentally. Also, have you ever seen the leap frog movies? My daughter

loves them!!! They have one for math called math circus. My daughter is a

visual learner and she learns so much better from a video vs a teacher telling

her. Maybe that would help Allie. Here's a link to one...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3322075

I hope that helps you.

Debi wrote:

I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

[Guest guest]

My daughter Kailyn is in 5th grade now and still struggles with addition and

subtraction but that's because she's barely functioning at a 1st/2nd grade

level. She regressed horribly about 2 years ago and we've had to start over. It

depends on where Allie is developmentally. She might be exactly where she should

be developmentally. Also, have you ever seen the leap frog movies? My daughter

loves them!!! They have one for math called math circus. My daughter is a

visual learner and she learns so much better from a video vs a teacher telling

her. Maybe that would help Allie. Here's a link to one...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3322075

I hope that helps you.

Debi wrote:

I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

only math skills?

I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

TIA,

Debi

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Allie is struggling...I had trouble with

math at that age too, numbers didn't make as much

sense as letters.

A friend of mine has dyscalcula, the school district

should be able to test for that (assuming they don't

say " oh it's just autism " .

Is she seeing the page ok? Because seeing the numbers

wrong can make a difference...does changing the

lighting or color of the paper or trying sunglasses

make a difference? Does using manipulatives make a

difference? Can she memorize the basic addition facts

like back in the day? That's how I had to learn a

whole lot of math.

If the computer helps, it could be written into her

IEP that math concepts are presented on the computer

first...that's a reasonable accomodation, I'd think...

Kassiane

who had everything on green paper

--- Debi wrote:

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade.

> She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very

> frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of

> testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much

> about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters

> backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count

> well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could

> dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you

> all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can

> answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see

> performance better on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some

> things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

>

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I'm sorry Allie is struggling...I had trouble with

math at that age too, numbers didn't make as much

sense as letters.

A friend of mine has dyscalcula, the school district

should be able to test for that (assuming they don't

say " oh it's just autism " .

Is she seeing the page ok? Because seeing the numbers

wrong can make a difference...does changing the

lighting or color of the paper or trying sunglasses

make a difference? Does using manipulatives make a

difference? Can she memorize the basic addition facts

like back in the day? That's how I had to learn a

whole lot of math.

If the computer helps, it could be written into her

IEP that math concepts are presented on the computer

first...that's a reasonable accomodation, I'd think...

Kassiane

who had everything on green paper

--- Debi wrote:

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade.

> She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very

> frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of

> testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much

> about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters

> backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count

> well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could

> dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you

> all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can

> answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see

> performance better on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some

> things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

>

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Hi --

My son had an awful time with math until about the middle of second

grade. He's in a regular classroom -- HFA. He couldn't understand even

+1, you know, like 2+1, 3+1. We tried manipulatives of every sort,

number lines, flashcards -- everything. He finally got it after about a

year. I couldn't tell you if it was all the extra work we did or just

that his brain was developmentally ready. He could read fine, he could

count, but he sure couldn't add. Now he's 11 and in GATE -- go figure.

So, I guess my advice is -- keep working on it, try lots of different

things, ask lots of folks what helped them, but don't worry too much for

now. Her brain is going to develop a lot over the next few years.

-- Cassie

Debi wrote:

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi --

My son had an awful time with math until about the middle of second

grade. He's in a regular classroom -- HFA. He couldn't understand even

+1, you know, like 2+1, 3+1. We tried manipulatives of every sort,

number lines, flashcards -- everything. He finally got it after about a

year. I couldn't tell you if it was all the extra work we did or just

that his brain was developmentally ready. He could read fine, he could

count, but he sure couldn't add. Now he's 11 and in GATE -- go figure.

So, I guess my advice is -- keep working on it, try lots of different

things, ask lots of folks what helped them, but don't worry too much for

now. Her brain is going to develop a lot over the next few years.

-- Cassie

Debi wrote:

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would love to have her tested for Irlen Lenses. I need to research

that further. She does have glasses she loses more than wears. She

seems to enjoy them, then hides them in the most unusual places, takes

us weeks to find them.

I have felt if she could just memorize basic facts, like " 3+4=7... "

then she would have no problem, she's got rote memory out the wazzoo.

I don't know if they keep throwing math equations at her so fast she's

not getting time to learn them or what. Her writing is better when

they highlight block areas for her to write the letter/no in, and have

begun marking off blocks for each letter/no on all her work. Her

teacher last year used a highlighter to show her the area she was

expected to write within. And we have noticed that when she reads she

tends to want to speak the first & last words in a sentence & not say

the other words. You think that is indicating anything? Maybe she's

just looking for the markers of a capital letter & punctuation?

So far I've tried the colored teddy bears, My Little Ponies, Dora

pics, etc, and tried to show her " 3 Doras plus 4 Doras...now we put

them together, how many do we have " and count them with her. She

doesn't seem to get it. I think they've tried similar at the school.

We've also tried making lines for her to count, they've tried a number

line & hopping up & down it. She seems to be getting that a little for

subtraction, but not for addition. Go figure, I always thought

subtraction was more difficult! THey have also tried Touchmath, she

seemed to be picking up on that some, I don't know why they quit. I'm

of the notion it's because it's not the standard curriculum, but that

might be my paranoia.

Last year she did math on the computer. I don't know why they aren't

doing it this year. Part of the problem is that there's a new teacher

and I've been bad about fighting for every single letter laid out on

the IEP; that's something I need to figure out how to do without

alienating them so bad. We have a good IEP, but it doesn't lay out

exactly how the skill is to be taught; I wanted to show them I'm

willing to give them some wiggle room. As I write this I'm feeling

I've let her down by trying this.

I know a lot of people don't get math, but I'm a math lover. It's so

difficult for me to comprehend not getting it, so I feel even more

incompetent at knowing how to approach it differently so she can get it.

Debi

-

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I would love to have her tested for Irlen Lenses. I need to research

that further. She does have glasses she loses more than wears. She

seems to enjoy them, then hides them in the most unusual places, takes

us weeks to find them.

I have felt if she could just memorize basic facts, like " 3+4=7... "

then she would have no problem, she's got rote memory out the wazzoo.

I don't know if they keep throwing math equations at her so fast she's

not getting time to learn them or what. Her writing is better when

they highlight block areas for her to write the letter/no in, and have

begun marking off blocks for each letter/no on all her work. Her

teacher last year used a highlighter to show her the area she was

expected to write within. And we have noticed that when she reads she

tends to want to speak the first & last words in a sentence & not say

the other words. You think that is indicating anything? Maybe she's

just looking for the markers of a capital letter & punctuation?

So far I've tried the colored teddy bears, My Little Ponies, Dora

pics, etc, and tried to show her " 3 Doras plus 4 Doras...now we put

them together, how many do we have " and count them with her. She

doesn't seem to get it. I think they've tried similar at the school.

We've also tried making lines for her to count, they've tried a number

line & hopping up & down it. She seems to be getting that a little for

subtraction, but not for addition. Go figure, I always thought

subtraction was more difficult! THey have also tried Touchmath, she

seemed to be picking up on that some, I don't know why they quit. I'm

of the notion it's because it's not the standard curriculum, but that

might be my paranoia.

Last year she did math on the computer. I don't know why they aren't

doing it this year. Part of the problem is that there's a new teacher

and I've been bad about fighting for every single letter laid out on

the IEP; that's something I need to figure out how to do without

alienating them so bad. We have a good IEP, but it doesn't lay out

exactly how the skill is to be taught; I wanted to show them I'm

willing to give them some wiggle room. As I write this I'm feeling

I've let her down by trying this.

I know a lot of people don't get math, but I'm a math lover. It's so

difficult for me to comprehend not getting it, so I feel even more

incompetent at knowing how to approach it differently so she can get it.

Debi

-

[Guest guest]

Learning disabilities come in every size and shape. Yes, your

daughter can read perfectly, but not be able to grasp math concepts.

I suggest that you visit the web site schwablearning.org. It is all

about learning disabilities. You might also need to go back to the

school and ask them to test her for problems in math. She might need

expert tutoring, which they will have to provide. A person can be

autistic and also have another specific learning disability.

Good luck,

Bea

>

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better

on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

Learning disabilities come in every size and shape. Yes, your

daughter can read perfectly, but not be able to grasp math concepts.

I suggest that you visit the web site schwablearning.org. It is all

about learning disabilities. You might also need to go back to the

school and ask them to test her for problems in math. She might need

expert tutoring, which they will have to provide. A person can be

autistic and also have another specific learning disability.

Good luck,

Bea

>

> I just got Allie's interim report for second grade. She has yet to

> comprehend basic addition. I'm growing very frustrated with how to

> help her. I'm wondering if there is any sort of testing we should

> consider, like dyslexia. I don't know that much about it, but she is

> reading well. She still writes some of her letters backward,

> struggles with fine motor skills, and can count well. She just can't

> figure out how to answer addition questions. Could dyslexia affect

> only math skills?

>

> I'm going to look back over the math software you all have suggested

> over time & get some. I'm wondering if she can answer math problems,

> but not verbally/written. Sometimes we can see performance better

on a

> computer than other ways, so that might answer some things.

>

> TIA,

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

She's up for her 3 yr re-eval, case manager just sent an email that

she would like to update testing. Hopefully this is a good start.

Thanks,

Debi

[Guest guest]

She's up for her 3 yr re-eval, case manager just sent an email that

she would like to update testing. Hopefully this is a good start.

Thanks,

Debi

[Guest guest]

Debi --

If using the computer worked before for her, you might want to try

software at home. Also, I know City Creek Press has " Addition the Fun

Way " http://www.citycreek.com/index.htm -- it uses fun stories to teach

the math facts -- on their multiplication set one of the stories is

about two sixes walking through the desert and they get thirsty --

thirsty sixes (6x6=36). We didn't use it for addition but we did for

multiplication and it really helped my kids. They have fun workbooks,

posters, audio tapes, and a book on word-problems too (which is another

area our kids often have a hard time with.) Good luck!

-- Cassie

Debi wrote:

> I would love to have her tested for Irlen Lenses. I need to research

> that further. She does have glasses she loses more than wears. She

> seems to enjoy them, then hides them in the most unusual places, takes

> us weeks to find them.

>

> I have felt if she could just memorize basic facts, like " 3+4=7... "

> then she would have no problem, she's got rote memory out the wazzoo.

> I don't know if they keep throwing math equations at her so fast she's

> not getting time to learn them or what. Her writing is better when

> they highlight block areas for her to write the letter/no in, and have

> begun marking off blocks for each letter/no on all her work. Her

> teacher last year used a highlighter to show her the area she was

> expected to write within. And we have noticed that when she reads she

> tends to want to speak the first & last words in a sentence & not say

> the other words. You think that is indicating anything? Maybe she's

> just looking for the markers of a capital letter & punctuation?

>

> So far I've tried the colored teddy bears, My Little Ponies, Dora

> pics, etc, and tried to show her " 3 Doras plus 4 Doras...now we put

> them together, how many do we have " and count them with her. She

> doesn't seem to get it. I think they've tried similar at the school.

> We've also tried making lines for her to count, they've tried a number

> line & hopping up & down it. She seems to be getting that a little for

> subtraction, but not for addition. Go figure, I always thought

> subtraction was more difficult! THey have also tried Touchmath, she

> seemed to be picking up on that some, I don't know why they quit. I'm

> of the notion it's because it's not the standard curriculum, but that

> might be my paranoia.

>

> Last year she did math on the computer. I don't know why they aren't

> doing it this year. Part of the problem is that there's a new teacher

> and I've been bad about fighting for every single letter laid out on

> the IEP; that's something I need to figure out how to do without

> alienating them so bad. We have a good IEP, but it doesn't lay out

> exactly how the skill is to be taught; I wanted to show them I'm

> willing to give them some wiggle room. As I write this I'm feeling

> I've let her down by trying this.

>

> I know a lot of people don't get math, but I'm a math lover. It's so

> difficult for me to comprehend not getting it, so I feel even more

> incompetent at knowing how to approach it differently so she can get it.

>

> Debi

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>

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[Guest guest]

Debi --

If using the computer worked before for her, you might want to try

software at home. Also, I know City Creek Press has " Addition the Fun

Way " http://www.citycreek.com/index.htm -- it uses fun stories to teach

the math facts -- on their multiplication set one of the stories is

about two sixes walking through the desert and they get thirsty --

thirsty sixes (6x6=36). We didn't use it for addition but we did for

multiplication and it really helped my kids. They have fun workbooks,

posters, audio tapes, and a book on word-problems too (which is another

area our kids often have a hard time with.) Good luck!

-- Cassie

Debi wrote:

> I would love to have her tested for Irlen Lenses. I need to research

> that further. She does have glasses she loses more than wears. She

> seems to enjoy them, then hides them in the most unusual places, takes

> us weeks to find them.

>

> I have felt if she could just memorize basic facts, like " 3+4=7... "

> then she would have no problem, she's got rote memory out the wazzoo.

> I don't know if they keep throwing math equations at her so fast she's

> not getting time to learn them or what. Her writing is better when

> they highlight block areas for her to write the letter/no in, and have

> begun marking off blocks for each letter/no on all her work. Her

> teacher last year used a highlighter to show her the area she was

> expected to write within. And we have noticed that when she reads she

> tends to want to speak the first & last words in a sentence & not say

> the other words. You think that is indicating anything? Maybe she's

> just looking for the markers of a capital letter & punctuation?

>

> So far I've tried the colored teddy bears, My Little Ponies, Dora

> pics, etc, and tried to show her " 3 Doras plus 4 Doras...now we put

> them together, how many do we have " and count them with her. She

> doesn't seem to get it. I think they've tried similar at the school.

> We've also tried making lines for her to count, they've tried a number

> line & hopping up & down it. She seems to be getting that a little for

> subtraction, but not for addition. Go figure, I always thought

> subtraction was more difficult! THey have also tried Touchmath, she

> seemed to be picking up on that some, I don't know why they quit. I'm

> of the notion it's because it's not the standard curriculum, but that

> might be my paranoia.

>

> Last year she did math on the computer. I don't know why they aren't

> doing it this year. Part of the problem is that there's a new teacher

> and I've been bad about fighting for every single letter laid out on

> the IEP; that's something I need to figure out how to do without

> alienating them so bad. We have a good IEP, but it doesn't lay out

> exactly how the skill is to be taught; I wanted to show them I'm

> willing to give them some wiggle room. As I write this I'm feeling

> I've let her down by trying this.

>

> I know a lot of people don't get math, but I'm a math lover. It's so

> difficult for me to comprehend not getting it, so I feel even more

> incompetent at knowing how to approach it differently so she can get it.

>

> Debi

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll check it out. So far I got the Leap Frog video, is it

called " Math Circus? " She LOVES that, which tells me that she doesn't

like not understanding her math stuff. I also got the Reader Rabbit

first grade software that she's been playing. It has progress reports,

I'm about to check it. I told her case manager about it & plan on

using the progress reports during IEP meetings as a data source on my

end for how she's doing.

Debi

>

> Debi --

>

> If using the computer worked before for her, you might want to try

> software at home. Also, I know City Creek Press has " Addition the Fun

> Way " http://www.citycreek.com/index.htm --