Re: Re: Oprah Message Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

April 12, 2007

you are very right. it is of most cultures to pick a certain type of people

and ensalve or repress them.

I wish we all could learn to accept people more.

>

>Reply-To: Autism_in_Girls

>To: Autism_in_Girls

>Subject: Re: Oprah Message Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:12:10 -0000

>

> while this is of true to america it is of also prevelant to all

>Societies, Black africans also enslaved other black africans as well,

>look at the Rawanda incident, Other cultures as well came to africa to

>steal of the people for the sole purpose of enslavement, but I to think

>America was the first to rectify and change that as a forbideden and

>many other countries and states followed suit. I toaso be to know in

>Cuba many are oppressed but the stigma of various cultures still are

>rampant there too. The jews are of a people many try to destroy and

>slaughter simply due to being born a jew sad to me. As I to see all

>Humans as an equal in life a no one is of greater or lesser but society

>of all lands try to dictate a beleif to certain cultrues that is of

>unfair. In some cultures babies are left to die as they are wrapped

>tightly and disgarded in the fileds to be to starve to death or be of

>eaten by beast of the land so the thinking that this is an american

>issus is not of complete a true thinking , yet we as americans do have

>our issues as all lands and cultures do. Right now my interest is cuban

>hisotry and so have been reading many books on the topic to learn of

>various cultures and the oppressions of various peoples due to teh life

>of the land in which they were of born.

>Sondra

>

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April 12, 2007

This is exactly it...and what I have gotten frustrated

trying to express (the language skills are only as

good as the complex echolalia). At least in the

country where I live, we are taught that " These truths

we hold to be self evident: all men (meaning people)

are created equal " .

It's taken a while for people to get with the program

about different ethnicities and even genders, but hey!

Humans learn. And we have learned. So now there's

disability rights. And there is disability culture,

both within individual disabilities and the general

clump of people considered disabled. As autistic

people, we have a right to be...autistic people.

And to services that allow us to be happy autistic

people, just as everyone else gets services that allow

them to be happy, successful ADHD, NT, Deaf, movement

disabled, whatever people. The important word there is

PEOPLE.

And the implied respect of our essence...who we are.

Kassiane

--- Penney wrote:

> That is true with everyone. When anyone does not

> feel accepted for who they

> are they feel less than or sad. The American

> society has done this with

> many types of people, look back in our

> history...Look what American society

> has done to black people, jewish people, gay people,

> etc...

>

> Honestly, it is my fear of what is going to happen

> if people do not REALIZE

> this point!

>

> Please to all of those reading this...just at least

> think about it. If you

> can accept your child for who they are you can end

> the pain in your

> heart....they will feel accepted....they will be

> happier and feel more

> love...and love heals all.

>

> I believe what it comes down to is the idea that

> your child will grow up and

> not lead a happy life....and what we all need to

> realize is that what makes

> your child happy and what makes you happy are

> different.

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Autism_in_Girls

> >To: Autism_in_Girls

> >Subject: Re: Oprah Message

> Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:26:13 -0000

> >

> > > Everytime I see those kids they seem pretty

> happy to me.... living

> >their

> > > lives the way they know how to live thier lives.

> >

> >Above comment: yes for the most part when we are

> allowed to be self we

> >are of happy and content it is when society forces

> us to be what we are

> >not that the emotional and internal crashes take

> palce and cause us to

> >feel out of sync and bad about selves.

> >Sondra

> >

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April 12, 2007

This is exactly it...and what I have gotten frustrated

trying to express (the language skills are only as

good as the complex echolalia). At least in the

country where I live, we are taught that " These truths

we hold to be self evident: all men (meaning people)

are created equal " .

It's taken a while for people to get with the program

about different ethnicities and even genders, but hey!

Humans learn. And we have learned. So now there's

disability rights. And there is disability culture,

both within individual disabilities and the general

clump of people considered disabled. As autistic

people, we have a right to be...autistic people.

And to services that allow us to be happy autistic

people, just as everyone else gets services that allow

them to be happy, successful ADHD, NT, Deaf, movement

disabled, whatever people. The important word there is

PEOPLE.

And the implied respect of our essence...who we are.

Kassiane

--- Penney wrote:

> That is true with everyone. When anyone does not

> feel accepted for who they

> are they feel less than or sad. The American

> society has done this with

> many types of people, look back in our

> history...Look what American society

> has done to black people, jewish people, gay people,

> etc...

>

> Honestly, it is my fear of what is going to happen

> if people do not REALIZE

> this point!

>

> Please to all of those reading this...just at least

> think about it. If you

> can accept your child for who they are you can end

> the pain in your

> heart....they will feel accepted....they will be

> happier and feel more

> love...and love heals all.

>

> I believe what it comes down to is the idea that

> your child will grow up and

> not lead a happy life....and what we all need to

> realize is that what makes

> your child happy and what makes you happy are

> different.

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Autism_in_Girls

> >To: Autism_in_Girls

> >Subject: Re: Oprah Message

> Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:26:13 -0000

> >

> > > Everytime I see those kids they seem pretty

> happy to me.... living

> >their

> > > lives the way they know how to live thier lives.

> >

> >Above comment: yes for the most part when we are

> allowed to be self we

> >are of happy and content it is when society forces

> us to be what we are

> >not that the emotional and internal crashes take

> palce and cause us to

> >feel out of sync and bad about selves.

> >Sondra

> >

>

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April 12, 2007

I agree with the point that every human has a purpose in life. I believe that

every good parent wants the best for their children. I for one would love for

my daughter to speak. I say this because I see how she gets when she cannot

tell me what it is that is hurting her. When she is sick for instance....she

cannot tell me what is going on and it hurts me. Or if something has happened

to her...she cannot tell me. Just a couple of weeks ago I found out that a

teachers assistant was scaring her with a spray bottle of water to keep her

" quiet " . My daughter vocalizes alot and can get loud. This teachers assistant

made my daughter scared of water by spraying her in the face. It took me three

years to help my daughter to not be afraid of water and now this person has done

this to my little girl. My point is that I would have never known if it didn't

come to light. I see the frustration in my daughter so much when she cannot

communicate. We have tried switches, voice communication boxes, pictures, and

now a PECS book. It just never seems to be enough. And this is just one of the

many things that goes on with her. I have to say that I do not see her living

her life fully. Its just not fair to her. She is so very different than she

was prior to three years old.

I don't think it is fair and I have to say that to me it seems rude and

insensitive to make the comment that parents cry about what their child cannot

do. I personally do cry....and as a great mother I don't take kindly to someone

telling us parents to suck it up and look at what your child can do. I mean of

course I celebrate what my Destiney can do....but she is functioning at a

18month and younger level....its not fair to her. And of course she is happy at

times...I always try my best to make her happy...but of course I cannot let her

stay in her ritualistic patterns...they lead to overstimulation and then she

goes off into a full blown overstimulated fit. I am only writing the tip of the

iceberg...no one can ever know what her life is like and what our family life is

like unless they lived here and went through it with us and even then you really

cannot know it all. I want so much more for her and I am sure that if she had a

choice she would chose the same. I know my daughter and no one can tell me any

different. I do everything for her because she cannot....I sit with her and I

see the look on her face at times when other children are engaged in different

activities...she looks at me and its like she is yearning to break out.

I think before people start to lash out, they need to be more sensitive to

others feelings....this is our children you are talking about and we as

parents...very good parents....take it to heart.

It is very obvious to me...as I am reading what Kassianne is writing, that she

is defiantly nothing like my daughter. I do not know who she is and I have

never met her, but based on what I see with my eyes, that she writes, she is

intelligent and she can use a computer and she can type and she can spell and

she can probably do a million other things that my Destiney will NEVER do. Do

not compare yourself with my daughter or anyone else's...its just not fair to

do. Every single person in life is different...no one is the same...no one.

No one has the right to tell someone else that their child is happy and that

they are fine the way they are....that would be called " just your opinion " .

Everyone has the right to state their opinion...not the right to tell someone

what to do or how to feel.

Re: Re: Oprah Message Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:39:43 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Oh like YOU know anything about me.

>

>Cure neurobigotry now.

>

>Kassiane,

>sick of people who are only her " friends " till this

>crap comes up, y'all know who you are

>

>--- " O. Boyd " wrote:

>

> > Here! Hear!!

> >

> > Re: Oprah Message

> > Board-PLEASE WRITE THEM!

> >

> > My point was that I don't think there can ever be

> > too much

> > awareness. As for the cancer comparison, don't

> > lecture me about it

> > killing. I know, my mother died from it a little

> > over a year ago.

> > For you, there may be enough awareness because

> > obviously you are able

> > to communicate and live a fulfilling life. I have

> > a child who still

> > wears diapers and has never said a word, so I'm

> > sorry but until she

> > has a chance at a somewhat normal and productive

> > life I will fight

> > for more funding and more awareness. Comparing

> > yourself to other

> > people with autism is like comparing apples to

> > carpet. They're all

> > totally different. I'm only addressing the

> > awareness, not anything

> > else.

> >

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