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[Guest guest]

Hi, Sherri -

Phone the dairy licensing authorities at WSDA (WA State Dept of

Ag, Food Safety) and ask them; there is a website but they

haven't updated it since mid-December.... no matter how much I

nag them.... I know there are at least 4 more Grade A Raw

dairies licensed than are listed on their website....

(360) 902 - 1876; or go ahead and call Condon at (360)

902-1836, she is the person who is supposed to update the

website.

It sounds like you are looking for raw cow milk.... but if you want

raw goat milk, the Conway Grade A microdairy is in Camas,

which is on the Columbia River in line with the Cascade Mtns.

As far as licensed Grade A Raw cow milk in this state, the ones I

know about:

Grace Harbor Farms up near Bellingham mainly have goats, but

they also have 2 Guernseys

http://www.graceharborfarms.com/

Somewhere up near them is long-time Grade A cow dairy &

farmstead cheesemakers Pleasant Valley Dairy... in the last

couple of months, they split off about 25 of their cows into a

separate herd (with a different herd name that I don't know...)

under the grandson's ownership and those cows are licensed

for Grade A Raw; their herd consists of all 5 main breeds of dairy

cows which is neat. On the WSDA website under Raw Milk

Cheeses you can find their phone number.

http://www.agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/Dairy then I believe links on

the left will give a choice of Raw Milk and that will lead you to a

page with a link to the pdf file for Raw Milk Licensees.

I don't know if she is licensed yet, but also up north on the west

side of the state is a herd of Jerseys, " Jackie's jerseys " (I may

have misspelled her name).

Over in Sequim on the Olympic Peninsula, the Brown family have

about 50 purebred jerseys and I think they now have their Grade

A Raw license; Dungeness Valley Creamery.

Mother Therese of Our Lady of the Rock Monastery on Shaw

Island in the San s has been licensed to sell Grade A Raw

milk since 1981

http://www.rockisland.com/~mhildegard

the website doesn't mention the dairy, because they generally

milk only 1 - 3 cows and have all the customers they can serve

usually

Estrella Family Creamery in Montesano were licensed last

Oct/Nov for Grade A Raw milk; they have cows, goats and sheep

but I am not sure if all species were licensed for Grade A Raw

milk.

The Dilley family also in that SW corner of WA were considering

getting licensed, not sure what their status is; they too have been

a Grade A cow dairy of about 300 cows for decades, and were

planning on splitting off a few cows into another herd under the

daughter's ownership for Grade A Raw; I think those were

Holsteins and Holstein/Jersey crosses

I think that once word gets out amongst more long time Grade A

cow dairies that they can split off some (or all) of their herd and

go Grade A Raw, that more of that will happen. One big hurdle for

them has been their contracts with the big pasteurized

processors have huge penalties for quitting the contracts; but

now they have figured out that if they " sell " the herd to another

family member, and perhaps change that herd's name, it is a

way to do this. This is exactly why the big processors have been

lobbying against Grade A Raw milk for so long, they didn't want

their contracts to be broken.

Best wishes!

Debbie Higgins

Rainhaven Grade A Raw Goat Microdairy

Duvall, WA (30 miles NE of Seattle)

>

> Hi my name is Sherri. My husband and I live in southeastern

Washington state. I fondly remember drinking raw milk as a

child. When I was growing up we had a jeresy. My parents and

two older sisters milked Suzy. Dad did it most of the time. Dad

wouldn't let me milk, because I didn't get the hang of it. He said

he wasn't going to let me ruin a good milk cow. (I had

coordination problems.) Suzy was very grateful too.

>

> I can remember the delicious taste of the ice cold milk. The

ice cream and butter that we would make from the milk was

wonderful. My husband has never tasted raw milk and doesn't

understand the attraction I have to it.

>

> Does anyone know of any certified raw milk dairy in SE

Washington? I thought I would try an internet search, but if they

aren't online I won't find them.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, My name is Sam Foos. I now live in Redding, CA. A few years ago, I was living in Colorado Springs CO and I came down with a disease that I believe to be Chron's disease. I never found out the true label of my problem because the doctor already ran many expensive, yet inconclusive tests. He just wanted to stuff pharmacuetical drugs down my throat, and even at that time I knew this was not an answer. I tried many different types of remedies and found little value in many of the approaches to health I was taking. In the meantime, my weigth shrank from an already meager 135 at 6'0 tall all the way to 115. It was at that time I decided to go on a two week cleanse fast that pulled my weigth to 105 lbs!! I knew I was at death's door and needed a remedy quickly. I spent most of my time doing research on health and wellness during this period. Luckily, at

that time, my parents ran into a particular book at their church called "The Maker's Diet". As soon as I began reading this book, I realized that not only did it make sense, but it closely mirrored my situation. After quickly implementing the guidelines in the book, I noticed major improvements that the other diets had not produced. However, my weight was still very difficult to build even when I felt much better. The further I stretched, the more I realized a need for RAW dairy products. The pasturized organic products were just not enough. Fortunately, I was able to locate a local supplier of goats milk and began consuming it on a regular basis. It made me feel much better and I began building my weight back up. I ran into some hiccups and decided to take it a step further. I learned about the enormous value of turning raw milk into keifer. When I finally did that for several months, my weight

skyrocketed to almost 145 lbs which I had never weighed before in my life. Unfortunately, it became winter time quickly after that and I ran out of milk. I also had to travel across the country which made eating healthy out of the question. I quickly returned to 120lbs and had to eventually return back home. When milk season started again, the grains I had recieved at that time stopped working so well and I also recieved below par milk because the supplier's fringe was broken. I only built back to 130 and pretty much stayed that way for a while. Then my family decided to move to Redding CA. I wanted to leave, however, I didn't realize at the time how hard it would be to find good raw milk around my area. So when I got to CA, the first month or so was without a food supplier since it is practically my main source of food at this point. I have finally located suppliers and am at 137lbs and climbing everyday. I am

currently wanting to go to Los Angeles for 6 months to learn the lease financing business, but it will again force me to find a local supplier and it will be during the dry milk season. I realize that I can go to the store, but I have never matched the results I get from raw dairy milk straight from the farm. Plus, it is exceedingly expense because I drink at least a gallon per day. Anyways, I am here to say that I love RAW milk, I live on it and it has saved from death because I would have given up without it.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sam,

Thanks for your story. I am so inspired by

your story, which is also similar to mine that I would love to post your story

on my website, www.optimalhealthnetwork.com.

May I do that, with your first name only?

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From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Sam

Foos

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006

11:26 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Intro

Hi everyone,

My name is Sam Foos.

I now live in Redding, CA. A few years ago, I was living in Colorado Springs CO

and I came down with a disease that I believe to be Chron's disease. I

never found out the true label of my problem because the doctor already ran

many expensive, yet inconclusive tests. He just wanted to stuff

pharmacuetical drugs down my throat, and even at that time I knew this was not

an answer. I tried many different types of remedies and found little

value in many of the approaches to health I was taking. In the meantime,

my weigth shrank from an already meager 135 at 6'0 tall all the way to

115. It was at that time I decided to go on a two week cleanse fast that

pulled my weigth to 105 lbs!! I knew I was at death's door and needed a

remedy quickly. I spent most of my time doing research on health and

wellness during this period. Luckily, at that time, my parents ran into a

particular book at their church called " The Maker's Diet " .

As soon as I began reading this book, I realized that not only did it make

sense, but it closely mirrored my situation. After quickly

implementing the guidelines in the book, I noticed major improvements that the

other diets had not produced. However, my weight was still very difficult

to build even when I felt much better. The further I stretched, the more

I realized a need for RAW dairy products. The pasturized organic products

were just not enough. Fortunately, I was able to locate a local supplier

of goats milk and began consuming it on a regular basis. It made me feel

much better and I began building my weight back up. I ran into some

hiccups and decided to take it a step further. I learned about the

enormous value of turning raw milk into keifer. When I finally did that

for several months, my weight skyrocketed to almost 145 lbs which I had never

weighed before in my life. Unfortunately, it became winter time quickly

after that and I ran out of milk. I also had to travel across the country

which made eating healthy out of the question. I quickly returned to

120lbs and had to eventually return back home. When milk season started

again, the grains I had recieved at that time stopped working so well and I

also recieved below par milk because the supplier's fringe was broken. I

only built back to 130 and pretty much stayed that way for a while. Then

my family decided to move to Redding

CA. I wanted to leave,

however, I didn't realize at the time how hard it would be to find good raw

milk around my area. So when I got to CA, the first month or so was

without a food supplier since it is practically my main source of food at this

point. I have finally located suppliers and am at 137lbs and climbing

everyday. I am currently wanting to go to Los Angeles for 6 months to learn the

lease financing business, but it will again force me to find a local supplier and

it will be during the dry milk season. I realize that I can go to the

store, but I have never matched the results I get from raw dairy milk straight

from the farm. Plus, it is exceedingly expense because I drink at least a

gallon per day. Anyways, I am here to say that I love RAW milk, I

live on it and it has saved from death because I would have given up without

it.

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Hi ,

Nice to meet you!

Sandi

In a message dated 5/17/2007 5:23:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

sas80au@... writes:

Hi everyone,

I've been a member for a while but only just now remembered that I

was and thought I would introduce myself, and my daughter.

My name is . I'm a 26 year old single Mum from Australia. I

work in IT and am doing a triple major at university (not anything to

do with IT).

My daughter, Hannah, is 6.5 years old. She was born at 26 weeks, and

on March 8th this year was diagnosed with Asperger's..on March 8th this y

know has an ASD girl and I'm struggling to get her teachers to listen

to me because she doesn't act out in class and doesn't present like

most of the boys do.

She is highly intelligent and finds academics easy, she is also

brilliant at mimicry - but I've worked on that with her for a long

time and sometimes I wonder if I should have.

I have been told that I am probably on the spectrum myself, but I

refuse to go through all the tests for a diagnosis. I don't need to

know, but I have been teaching Hannah my own coping mechanisms ever

since I noticed that she was a little too much like me for comfort.

I really feel for her. She desperately wants friends, but can't

quite make a connection. She says she has friends but her

interactions are shallow and one-sided. Very difficult to explain to

her, but still...<sigh>

Anyway, that's us.

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In a message dated 5/17/07 6:23:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

sas80au@... writes:

My name is . I'm a 26 year old single Mum from Australia. I

work in IT and am doing a triple major at university (not anything to

do with IT).

My daughter, Hannah, is 6.5 years old.

welcome to the group.

eric abbys dad

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[Guest guest]

I would certainly pursue PANDAS and good for you for being proactive in getting

the whole family on antibiotics!

It's also great that you're doing titer tests. Just be aware that more than 1/3

of Pandas kids don't get rising titers, even after confirmed strep. So having

elevated titers will help you with being able to tie your daughter's sudden

onset to strep. But don't dismiss PANDAS if the titers come back in the normal

range.

You can find lots of information at www.pandasnetwork.org and

www.pandasresourcenetwork.org and if you email pandasnetwork.org, they may be

able to recommend a doctor in your area. If not, you may want to consider

traveling to Chicago, as one of the best is there and many parents wish they'd

started with him rather than wasting months and money trying to educate and

convince local doctors.

We struggled for 10 months locally until traveling 9 hours to the right doctor -

and that changed everything for the better.

You may also want to look into the Cunningham test, which tests your child's

blood for a CaM Kinase enzyme that only is thought to elevate in Pandas kids and

not kids with traditional OCD. It's not available thru commercial labs - only

from Dr Cunningham - an immunologist at the Univ of OK who is doing a research

study. She is one of the doctors/researchers who discovered the disease with Dr

Swedo in the 90s. It's $400 out of pocket, but the Pandas doctors give it a lot

of weight and is something to consider if you don't have elevated titers.

Keep an eye on your daughter's handwriting and urination patterns. Take note if

she needs to go more often, has more urges even if she just went, or if she

starts wetting the bed. Also note any rages, hyperactivity, loss of impulse

control, tics, or severe separation anxiety.

Another support group you may want to look into is www.latitudes.org, which has

a forum specifically for Pandas.

FYI - it can take weeks (6-8) for a Pandas episode to end once the strep is

eradicated. Prednisone can shorten the episode, but you have to be sure the

infection is gone first or the effects will be short-lived. Amoxicillin can work

for some, but other parents report better results with Augmentin or azithromicin

(just something to bear in mind - most doctors don't think kindly of patients

telling them what type of abx they want).

There are several Pandas parents on this site, so don't hesitate to ask if you

have other questions.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecily,

I am quickly trying to catch up on posts and wanted to say that your

story sounds very familiar! Our DD also had an abrupt onset at age 7

1/2 where before nothing was going on. She also had strep about 4 weeks

prior. And we also have a Dr. that doesn't believe in PANDAS. She did

treat her with amox. for 10 days at a strength that you would use for a

regular ear infection. It didn't do anything. Since then, I have read

that that isn't the antibiotic of choice and the dosages and length need

to be much higher for PANDAS. I hope you can find a great Dr. to work with!

Dina