Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well our family has completed the first 29 days of the Maker's Diet and raw goats milk made it successful. I have lost 11.5 lbs., DH lost 22 lbs. Ate all we wanted of the foods that were allowed. Finally reading the Nourishing Traditions book and implementing as much as I can. Learning slowly. Interesting points here we are eating just as much fat as we ever did we just switched the types. My husbands asthma is doing better and we both have more energy. I can hardly wait for our Jersey to freshen or some more goats though because I am out of kefir and not enough milk to make any. I always feel more like me when I drink it plus we are addicted to lacto-fermented roasted red peppers. We have been drinking raw milk for over 5 years now and we always amaze people. So many think we should be sick instead of healthy and our children are doing wonderful. Just thought I would share. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Congrats Deb! I am interested in learning more about this maker's diet. I hear lots of good opinions on it. Where did you find out about it? Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Debbie I have just bought the Maker's Diet book but have not read thru it. I am trying the Coconut Diet off and on. Are you also taking the products he sells also? We have switched to the coconut oil and hope to get the raw goat milk in the spring. Let us know more about what you have done. I am very interested. The coconut diet does low carb. You and your husband have done great. We are in our early 60's and want to be as healthy as we can be as we continue to age. We do not take any medicines and have no major alements. I do have 20 lbs I need to get off. My husband is very lean and in good shape. He is more diciplined than me. Hope to hear more about your new way of eating. in Mississippi -- In RawDairy , " & Debbie Chikousky " wrote: > > Well our family has completed the first 29 days of the Maker's Diet and raw goats milk made it successful. I have lost 11.5 lbs., DH lost 22 lbs. Ate all we wanted of the foods that were allowed. Finally reading the Nourishing Traditions book and implementing as much as I can. Learning slowly. Interesting points here we are eating just as much fat as we ever did we just switched the types. My husbands asthma is doing better and we both have more energy. I can hardly wait for our Jersey to freshen or some more goats though because I am out of kefir and not enough milk to make any. I always feel more like me when I drink it plus we are addicted to lacto- fermented roasted red peppers. > We have been drinking raw milk for over 5 years now and we always amaze people. So many think we should be sick instead of healthy and our children are doing wonderful. > Just thought I would share. > Debbie Chikousky > Manitoba, Canada > gdchik@... > http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 A lot of talking about it on the kefir list I was on last winter was what got me really curious about this book. I have had issues with unbalanced hormones and candida but had gotten a lot of it under control. When we read the book, Organza in Winnipeg had them for $9.00, we decided to try it. I cannot believe how much like me I am getting to feel. Always did feel better with lots of veggies though. I am very surprised some of my children like the lacto-fermented peppers too though. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things you can use in changing your diet. I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things he was saying, so got off. K.C. RE: sharing good news Congrats Deb! I am interested in learning more about this maker's diet. I hear lots of good opinions on it. Where did you find out about it? Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 What is the link? I am not sure that I agree with all he says either but I would like to check it out. I am really liking this Sally Fallon book. Really straightforward and informative with lots of documentation. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Re: sharing good news You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things you can use in changing your diet. I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things he was saying, so got off. K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't remember. I just typed Maker's Diet into a search engine and the web site came up as one of the choices. K.C. Re: sharing good news You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things you can use in changing your diet. I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things he was saying, so got off. K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 tiny neighbor lady has lost 30 pounds in one month on makers diet. curious, what things did you disagree with that were in makers diet? katrina > > I don't remember. I just typed Maker's Diet into a search engine and the web site came up as one of the choices. > > K.C. > Re: sharing good news > > > You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things you can use in changing your diet. > > I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things he was saying, so got off. > > K.C. > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 hello, for makers diet info try www.generationhealth.com and www.themakersdiet.com and www.thelivingspring.com katrina > > What is the link? I am not sure that I agree with all he says either but I would like to check it out. I am really liking this Sally Fallon book. Really straightforward and informative with lots of documentation. > Debbie Chikousky > Manitoba, Canada > gdchik@... > http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ > Re: sharing good news > > > You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things you can use in changing your diet. > > I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things he was saying, so got off. > > K.C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 can't speak to the diet thing cause i'm skinny and wish i could gain some weight. but i can't get with you on the pork thing. i've read that pigs and shellfish are the garbage collectors of the animal kingdom on too many different websites (read that pigs have microscopic larvae that don't die even in 500 degree ovens - ewww!). so i had no problem accepting that tidbit along with his raw milk testimony. katrina > >> > >> I don't remember. I just typed Maker's Diet into a search engine > > and the web site came up as one of the choices. > >> > >> K.C. > >> Re: sharing good news > >> > >> > >> You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and > > gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things > > you can use in changing your diet. > >> > >> I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things > > he was saying, so got off. > >> > >> K.C. > >> > >> > >> > >> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > >> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > >> > >> Archive search: http://onibasu.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 i don't know guys. go to yahoo and type in dangers of eating pork and click on the article by that name and written by j.h. kellogg. kinda gross. i know that the internet is full of lies as well as truth but i've read these things in books and heard them before as well so i'm inclined to roll with that line of thought. tell me what you think about the article though especially the person that raises the pigs, do you agree with any of the article. thanks katrina > > I've never raised them, but what you are saying is what I've heard from > everyone that does raise them for their families each year. The only > problem now is the price at sale. My friend usually raises 3 like she did > this year. It costs her about $200 each to raise from baby to ready for the > butcher. She figured she would sell one or two and have the last for her > and her family. The problem is, she could only get $60 max at sale so I > told her to have the two butchered and that way she wouldn't have to get > babies next time. She agreed and figured she would get a couple half grown > from the farmer next time and just have to raise it to finish. That way it > wouldn't cost so much. She has goats and mini cattle, so they get the good > milk and all the veggies and a little grain at the end. > > K.C. > > RE: Re: sharing good news > > > >I have raised pigs for 20 + years and they are not garbage collectors > >unless > > you fee them the crap! > > They are very clean animals and usually hate a dirty pen. they defecate in > > one corner only usually and sleep in another and feed in another area here > > at our farm. They forage like chickens in the ground for goodies and love > > fresh veggies and fruits, milk, whey. > > > > Now commercial pig farms are a different ballgame all together and raised > > the same as other factory raised animals, cheapest feeds, pushed meds and > > feed and out the door usually sick in health. This does not mean all > > factory > > farms but lets say all the ones I have had the displeasure to have seen. > > The > > bottom line is the reason for having them not raising good meat. it's > > quick > > and cheap. > > > > > > Regards, > > Bev & > > Miskin Meadows Farm > > http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html > > Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: > > 16/02/2006 > > > > > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Pork is one of those things people will eat regardless of the dangers. All sorts of rationalization will be used for why an animal created as a garbage disposal is ok to eat. Even if not fed " perceived " bad things, a pig is designed to retain poisons. They don't sweat. You'll have to make up your own mind as the rest of us have, but why risk it? Also, you may want to read the food laws in Lev. 11. For me, that alone is enough, regardless of how churches try to explain it away. Cheyenne > > i don't know guys. go to yahoo and type in dangers of eating pork > and click on the article by that name and written by j.h. kellogg. > kinda gross. i know that the internet is full of lies as well as > truth but i've read these things in books and heard them before as > well so i'm inclined to roll with that line of thought. tell me what > you think about the article though especially the person that raises > the pigs, do you agree with any of the article. > > thanks > > katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Got to come out of lurkdom for this one. If you are looking to avoid " garbage collectors " or " bottom feeders " then stop eating chicken. In the time we have raised hogs we've never had them start eating one that has died but chickens, now there's a bunch will go after anything that doesn't move! The little darlings are digusting but still considered " health food " beats me how they do that but it might be the magic of TYSON. Belinda in TN > > I have raised pigs for 20 + years and they are not garbage collectors unless > you fee them the crap! > They are very clean animals and usually hate a dirty pen. they defecate in > one corner only usually and sleep in another and feed in another area here > at our farm. They forage like chickens in the ground for goodies and love > fresh veggies and fruits, milk, whey. > > Now commercial pig farms are a different ballgame all together and raised > the same as other factory raised animals, cheapest feeds, pushed meds and > feed and out the door usually sick in health. This does not mean all factory > farms but lets say all the ones I have had the displeasure to have seen. The > bottom line is the reason for having them not raising good meat. it's quick > and cheap. > > > Regards, > Bev & > Miskin Meadows Farm > http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html > Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 16/02/2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 K.C.: The farmer I get mine from gives them NO corn, and tons of dairy. I won't eat pig that's consumed any corn products because so much corn is GMO anymore. I never EVER eat pork from grocery stores..though it's easy to tell when it's irradiated: it turns bright pink/red and smells like a wet dog. I love shellfish too. I just had a lobster at a local restaurant the other day, and they even kept the roe intact for me to eat..it was absolutely delicious! Robin > > I know people who raise pigs and they are not garbage collectors. I know for a fact they are cleaner then cattle in the way they live. Now what mass producers feed them, I can't speak to, but then all pork and most meat in general is all irradiated for the market today. I have absolutely no problem with shellfish at all. Love almost all of it. > > K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I say, think for yourself, and don't get whipped up into too much of a froth over everything you read on the 'Net. The best thing is to find a farmer you TRUST, ask him to give you a tour, ask him questions about how he raises his pigs, and save up the money to get a half or more when they are butchered. That is exactly what I've done, and I've never worried about eating pork since then. When I eat meat out in restaurants, I do not eat anything but lamb and certain types of seafood most of the time (I go vegetarian all other times), but there are rare occasions when I will partake of a 'surf and turf' special..but pork? No way. I've gotten sick from the pork dishes at different Macaroni Grill restaurants not once but TWICE, and I refuse to eat chicken when I'm out dining with my dh, either. Robin > > i don't know guys. go to yahoo and type in dangers of eating pork > and click on the article by that name and written by j.h. kellogg. > kinda gross. i know that the internet is full of lies as well as > truth but i've read these things in books and heard them before as > well so i'm inclined to roll with that line of thought. tell me what > you think about the article though especially the person that raises > the pigs, do you agree with any of the article. > > thanks > > katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 People live in danger every day..plastic can make you sick, can stunt the growth of your beloved children. Raw soy can cause sexual development problems in children, the air is poisoned, the animals we eat are factory farmed to within an inch of their lives. Choose your issue. I choose to ride a motorcycle (a very fast sport bike), I climb frozen waterfalls, and I eat pork...talk about living on the edge! Katrina, I say, as I say to my friends, THINK FOR YOURSELF! If you want to use the Bible as a means to govern your eating habits, then do it. I choose a more holistic method that enhances the connection we have to our great Mother by ensuring the methods used to raise the animals I eat are harmonious to not only the farmer, but the ecosystem around the farm. People rationalize danger all the time..it's in some ways the human condition. I choose to eat what you so beautifully call 'garbage disposals'. A person who tries to live without risk in many ways accomplishes NEITHER. Robin > > > Pork is one of those things people will eat regardless of the > dangers. All sorts of rationalization will be used for why an animal > created as a garbage disposal is ok to eat. Even if not fed > " perceived " bad things, a pig is designed to retain poisons. They > don't sweat. You'll have to make up your own mind as the rest of us > have, but why risk it? > > Also, you may want to read the food laws in Lev. 11. For me, that > alone is enough, regardless of how churches try to explain it away. > > Cheyenne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 yes there's a wealth of info in the maker's diet which is why i asked the first question because it was he (rubin) and mercola that got me on the raw milk bandwagon. i had never heard of raw milk, weston price or sally fallon until i read the makers diet. katrina > > Well guys I know my uncle used to sleep in the barn at piglet time so the sows wouldn't lay on their young or eat them. So did my husbands aunt. This was not a isolated instance. the meat from factory barns is full of antibiotics due to the fact that they feed them low doses for growth and to keep illness at bay in overcroweded setting. No more healthy than the milk from a modern dairy. > there is a lot of good information in these publications other than the mans description of pork. That is such a tiny part of all that is there. Most of the recipes etc come from Nourishing Traditions which is what prompted me to buy it. I figure each to their own and you cannot believe all you read but there has been worse advise about nutrition given out to people. > This book is very much in favor, for all that haven't read it, of farming as we are all trying to do. There is even an advertising section to find products etc from people that grow things healthy. > Debbie Chikousky > Manitoba, Canada > gdchik@... > http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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