Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

January 5, 2009

Beezly shot himself?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did

> > it!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com

> > <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%

> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge,

> > took my

> > > > > > > > > pulse.

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said

> > they have

> > > > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up

> > whatever

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > lacking.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets

> > depleted and

> > > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > > > building

> > > > > > > > > > > > up.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every

> > seven

> > > > > > > days. I

> > > > > > > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting

> > with

> > > > > > > complete

> > > > > > > > > > > > impotence,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made

> > very slow

> > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only

> > needed

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have

> > > > > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so

> > good,

> > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are

> > your

> > > > > > > expereinces?

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January 5, 2009

he said he will.. and he hasn't posted in a long time

Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 4:39 AM

Beezly shot himself?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did > > it!!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, > > took my> > > > > > > > > pulse.> > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > told> > > > > > > > > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said > > they have> > > > > > > caused> > > > > > > > > > an> > > > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up > > whatever> > > >

> > > was> > > > > > > > > > lacking.> > > > > > > > > > > > Jing> > > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets > > depleted and> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > > > > building> > > > > > > > > > > > up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every > > seven> > > > > > > days. I> > > > > > > > > > > noticed> > > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i

suffered for 2.5 years starting > > with> > > > > > > complete> > > > > > > > > > > > impotence,> > > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made > > very slow> > > > > > > > > progress> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only > > needed> > > > > > to> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have> > > > > > > recovered> > > > > > > > >

> maybe> > > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so > > good,> > > > > > feel> > > > > > > > > normal> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are > > your> > > > > > > expereinces?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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January 5, 2009

that doesn't mean he's dead. he could be fine, just not posting to the group.

somebody should email him to see if he's ok. he may even have recovered for all

we know...

vornan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did

> > > it!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com

> > > <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%

> > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge,

> > > took my

> > > > > > > > > > pulse.

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said

> > > they have

> > > > > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up

> > > whatever

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > lacking.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets

> > > depleted and

> > > > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > > > > building

> > > > > > > > > > > > > up.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every

> > > seven

> > > > > > > > days. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting

> > > with

> > > > > > > > complete

> > > > > > > > > > > > > impotence,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made

> > > very slow

> > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only

> > > needed

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have

> > > > > > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so

> > > good,

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are

> > > your

> > > > > > > > expereinces?

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January 5, 2009

i don't know what happened to brianbeezly, last i heard he was

talking about living on the streets and seemed quite suicidal, but i

don't think we should jump to any conclusions just because we havent

heard from him. looking back at posts from as little as a couple of

years ago there seem to be many people who simply do not post

anymore. what has happened to all of them? some of them were in

desperate states. surely they can't have all just given up hope. some

of them must have recovered or seen improvements and this is the

reason that they have all but dissapeared. i hope that this is the

case, but it would be nice to know. i have tried e-mailing a couple

of them but got no response. this suggests to me that the e-mail

addresses are no longer in use. its one thing not posting anymore,

but another leaving the group completely. why would someone that

still has severe problems with pssd do such a thing when this group

is pretty much the only group of its kind and if anyone finds a

solution to this problem it is going to be discussed here. leaving

the group simply suggests that help is no longer needed. maybe i am

being too optimistic, a rarity these days believe me, but there are

just so many names that simply don't appear here anymore, not just a

handful of names, but loads. i cannot think of any other reason other

than things getting much better for them to stop them from posting on

the site. let's face it, even those that tell us about their

recoveries usually post a final couple of messages and then

dissapear - chris wells, dex, fritz, ben fleer to name but a few.

biologic occasionally posts an update and all credit to him, but i

really do think that many who recover or see dramatic improvements

that seriously affect the quality of their lives just want to put the

whole horrific experience behind them and that may include not

visiting this forum anymore. i am not saying that this is the

likelihood with brianbeezly but who knows? i sincerely hope that he

did not take his own life even though i know how he felt and am

suffering pretty much the same torment myself much of the time.

January 5, 2009

man guys there is still hope. I have every single symptom and I still got my head up. Just because my emotions are numb and I can't get laid does not mean I'm gonna chew on a bullett. If you want hope go to church find God and put your faith and trust in him instead of a chinese doctorSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "phon_71" Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:12:41 -0000To: <SSRIsex >Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!! i don't know what happened to brianbeezly, last i heard he was talking about living on the streets and seemed quite suicidal, but i don't think we should jump to any conclusions just because we havent heard from him. looking back at posts from as little as a couple of years ago there seem to be many people who simply do not post anymore. what has happened to all of them? some of them were in desperate states. surely they can't have all just given up hope. some of them must have recovered or seen improvements and this is the reason that they have all but dissapeared. i hope that this is the case, but it would be nice to know. i have tried e-mailing a couple of them but got no response. this suggests to me that the e-mail addresses are no longer in use. its one thing not posting anymore, but another leaving the group completely. why would someone that still has severe problems with pssd do such a thing when this group is pretty much the only group of its kind and if anyone finds a solution to this problem it is going to be discussed here. leaving the group simply suggests that help is no longer needed. maybe i am being too optimistic, a rarity these days believe me, but there are just so many names that simply don't appear here anymore, not just a handful of names, but loads. i cannot think of any other reason other than things getting much better for them to stop them from posting on the site. let's face it, even those that tell us about their recoveries usually post a final couple of messages and then dissapear - chris wells, dex, fritz, ben fleer to name but a few. biologic occasionally posts an update and all credit to him, but i really do think that many who recover or see dramatic improvements that seriously affect the quality of their lives just want to put the whole horrific experience behind them and that may include not visiting this forum anymore. i am not saying that this is the likelihood with brianbeezly but who knows? i sincerely hope that he did not take his own life even though i know how he felt and am suffering pretty much the same torment myself much of the time.

January 6, 2009

Not sure if everyone got the message from the Chinese doctor. Turns

out we need an appointment before he can deliver meds.

Now Im sure the formula he uses is replicated by other doctors. So it

would be a great service to the group if whoever was able to see him

was able to get the formula name.

Mo said something about Jin Ying but I could not find a formula with

that name.

January 6, 2009

This morning I received a response from the TCM guy Renji. He cannot send out the herbs.

You must first see the doctor. Apparently rules have tightened up in the UK. He suggests waiting to see how more of the people on this site who live in the UK and do who see the TCM doctor before planning a trip to the UK. He also mentioned trying a certified TCM doctor in the US who has success treating SSRI induced sexual imbalances. Also the herb

only 25 lbs.

Judy

co

Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

About TCM:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

> >> > > > I agree chris jack.It does sound a bit too good to be true. > > > > There was a chinese doctor who had this site called actionlove > which> > claimed to have the answer for PSSD and that turned out to be a > scam.> > In any case we just have the one testimony. Hopefully others will be> > able to corroborate.> > > > SSRIs are powerful drugs and while I believe herbs are able to help > a> > complete cure sounds too good to be true! In any case chinese > medicine> > is unlikely to make things worse unlike some of the novel > medications> > like antipsychotics, wellbutrin and the other shit people are taking> > and for a hundred or so it is worth a try.> > > > I like to think to myself that the Chinese population would not be a> > couple billion if their medicine didn't work, so if this stuff does> > help the PSSD I may well decide to see a Chinese doctor about my> > residual depression and insomnia> >>

January 6, 2009

ok guys,

i managed to speak with the doctor,

and he told me that for a 28 year old, i should not be having this problem.

he says it is more of a relaxation problem, and that i need to really destress

and take a holiday. also he said some stuff about (from what i decipher from the

thick accent) not having a 'peak sexual experience' (since ssris i presume) ...

and that if i have a few, i should be ok.

i asked the names of the herbs and here it goes :

sen yong bian wang & lu yong wang are for sexual dysfunction

jia wei xiao yao wan & zhu gang wang is for relaxation...

the names are in chinese and have a chinese pronounciation... but if you give it

to a tcm doctor he/she should know what they are (i hope!)

so his recommendation is for me to take this for a couple of months and see how

it goes.

cheers

'brent'

January 6, 2009

Today I received an email from the Chinese traditional doctor in

the UK who helped Mo.

He said that he can not post any herbs due to UK restrictions,

and that only people in the UK can be treated by him.

However, I never asked him to post any herbs to me, I just

emailed asking him what herbs they were so that my local herbalist could give

me the same herbs. Hopefully, he’ll read my reply more thoroughly and be able

to identify the herbs.

He wanted to note though that the cost for 2 months is 25 UK

Pounds. Not 250! I think Mo made a typo. So, about 60 Canadian Dollars, or

50 US dollars. Of course, since he can’t post any to Canada or the US, that

doesn’t really matter. I will continue to investigate what the herbs are. HOPEFULLY

when someone n the UK gets the herbs, if the labels are in Chinese, they can

ask a Chinese friend to translate, or to take some photos and post them online,

and if the labels are in English or another European language, you can simply

tell us what the herbs are!

That way, we international PSSD sufferers can get to our local

herbalists and at least try this potential treatment avenue out.

Here’s to us!

January 6, 2009

If I can get my hands on I willing to try right away.

Adil

Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 1:30 AM

No, I haven't. I will call or email him some time this week. It would be great if this were a cure-all for PSSD, but as others have pointed out, just because this worked for Mo, doesn't mean it will work for everybody else. It could turn out to be something important, but we won't know until more people have tried it.Vornan>> Vornan I'm curious if you talked to the chinese doctor?>

January 6, 2009

Requip is also for treating parkinson's.

Adil

Subject: Re: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:13 PM

Yes, and also someone else reported success with Requip? I am not certain of the spelling, I think it is a drug prescribed for Restless Leg Syndrome. I should know this as I had RLS until I had a Chiropractic adjustment to my C1 3 years ago and the RLS disappeared.

Am I correct? Is this the drug that cured someone's PSSD ReQuip ?

Judy

Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

About TCM:

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Traditional_ Chinese_medicine

> >> > > > I agree chris jack.It does sound a bit too good to be true. > > > > There was a chinese doctor who had this site called actionlove > which> > claimed to have the answer for PSSD and that turned out to be a > scam.> > In any case we just have the one testimony. Hopefully others will be> > able to corroborate.> > > > SSRIs are powerful drugs and while I believe herbs are able to help > a> > complete cure sounds too good to be true! In any case chinese > medicine> > is unlikely to make things worse unlike some of the novel > medications> > like antipsychotics, wellbutrin and the other shit people are taking> > and for a hundred or so it is worth a try.> > > > I like to think to myself that the Chinese population would not

be a> > couple billion if their medicine didn't work, so if this stuff does> > help the PSSD I may well decide to see a Chinese doctor about my> > residual depression and insomnia> >>

January 6, 2009

Mo

I would be interested to know what is the herb for depression as well.

Adil

Regards

From: mo_attif <mo_attifyahoo (DOT) co.uk>Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comDate: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:45 AM

He did say he has the herbs to sort out depression in TCM and undo anti depressant related effects on mind, but the libido was helped by this one he gave. I have taken the other antidepressant TCM herbs and they work. What works best though is resolving issues, Inner conflicts, Cognitive Behavioural Theraphy and herbs combined, roots out depression and anxiety. The anti-depressant herbs calm you down, cut out circular arguments, make you content and peaceful. The libido one he said needs to be ideally combined but i took only the libido one first. Then i did the whole lot. look, email and tell him what you want and he will post out in first instance, then if problems persist he will arrange to see you, he cant be doing appointments with everyone. He claims that for these symptoms, its the same herbs.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did > > it!!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, > > took my> > > > > > > > > pulse.> > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > told> > > > > > > > > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said > > they have> > > > > > > caused> > > > > > > > > > an> > > > > > > > > > > >

> imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up > > whatever> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > lacking.> > > > > > > > > > > > Jing> > > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets > > depleted and> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > > > > building> > > > > > > > > > > > up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every > > seven> > > > > > > days. I> > > > > > > > > > > noticed> > > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting > > with> > > > > > > complete> > > > > > > > > > > > impotence,> > > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made > > very slow> > > > > > > > > progress> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only > > needed> > > > > > to> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would

have> > > > > > > recovered> > > > > > > > > > maybe> > > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so > > good,> > > > > > feel> > > > > > > > > normal> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are > > your> > > > > > > expereinces?> > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

January 6, 2009

Can someone confirm the email? is tcm.ringi@...? because the email is see it has some characters in it.

Adil Regards

From: zant808 <zant808yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 8:33 PM

What other symptoms besides PSSD were you experiencing mo? I know forme I have insomnia, lack of motivation, depression, blunted emotionsetc. Did the tablets also fix your other symptoms as well?> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did > it!!!> > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%> > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, > took my> > > > > > > > pulse.> > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > told> > > > > > > > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said > they have> > > > > > caused> > > > > > > > > an> > > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up > whatever> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > lacking.> > > > > > > > > > > Jing> > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something

i cant remeber gets > depleted and> > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > > > building> > > > > > > > > > > up.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every > seven> > > > > > days. I> > > > > > > > > > noticed> > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting > with> > > > > > complete> > > > > > > > > > > impotence,> > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made > very slow> >

> > > > > > progress> > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only > needed> > > > > to> > > > > > see> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have> > > > > > recovered> > > > > > > > > maybe> > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so > good,> > > > > feel> > > > > > > > normal> > >

> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are > your> > > > > > expereinces?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

January 6, 2009

Are you sure you typed out the names of the herbs correctly? Also I

don't really get the relaxation bit? Did the Dr prescribe four herbs

for mo? Two for relaxation, two for sexual dysfunction?

I do not have a car so Huddersfield is a mission so it would be great

if someone could find out the info.

January 6, 2009

Guys and girls

It would be AWESOME if someone who speaks Chinese could take a look at

Brent's post and correct the spelling so that we can all google these

herbs and order them online.

January 6, 2009

it's tcm.renji @ yahoo.co.uk

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did

> > it!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com

> > <mailto:SSRIsex% 40yahoogroups. com> <mailto:SSRIsex%

> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge,

> > took my

> > > > > > > > > pulse.

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said

> > they have

> > > > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up

> > whatever

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > lacking.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets

> > depleted and

> > > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > > > building

> > > > > > > > > > > > up.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every

> > seven

> > > > > > > days. I

> > > > > > > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting

> > with

> > > > > > > complete

> > > > > > > > > > > > impotence,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made

> > very slow

> > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only

> > needed

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have

> > > > > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so

> > good,

> > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are

> > your

> > > > > > > expereinces?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 6, 2009

Mo, Could you read what the packaging the herbs came in says and post

it for us, so some of us can track down this mystery herb? I'll fly

to the UK to see this doctor if necessary, but I'd really like to see

if something can be done for me in the USA.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > To: SSRIsex <mailto:SSRIsex%

> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge,

> took my

> > > > > > > pulse.

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they

> have

> > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up

> whatever

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > lacking.

> > > > > > > > > > Jing

> > > > > > > > > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets

> depleted and

> > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > building

> > > > > > > > > > up.

> > > > > > > > > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every

> seven

> > > > > days. I

> > > > > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > > > > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting

> with

> > > > > complete

> > > > > > > > > > impotence,

> > > > > > > > > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made very

> slow

> > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only

> needed

> > > > to

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have

> > > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > straightaway.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so

> good,

> > > > feel

> > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > libido, erections natural.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your

> > > > > expereinces?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 7, 2009

Hey guys, I have this secret chinese herb that will cure a horribly

debilitating condition, but I will be as ambiguous as possible despite

the hundreds of people depending upon and anxiously waiting for a cure

that is apparently dependent on some magic herb. Despite the fact that

it should take about 10 seconds to find out what it is with some basic

research, i will continue to be vague and refer you to a broad

profession of chinese medicine that could prescribe you a million

different fucking things. These threads are always such bullshit, it

gets peoples hopes up and it's really sad that people do this. The

fact that the guys abandoned the thread when he's pressed for specific

information is enough proof in itself to prove what a hoax this is!

>

> ok guys,

>

> i managed to speak with the doctor,

>

> and he told me that for a 28 year old, i should not be having this

problem.

>

> he says it is more of a relaxation problem, and that i need to

really destress and take a holiday. also he said some stuff about

(from what i decipher from the thick accent) not having a 'peak sexual

experience' (since ssris i presume) ... and that if i have a few, i

should be ok.

>

> i asked the names of the herbs and here it goes :

>

> sen yong bian wang & lu yong wang are for sexual dysfunction

>

> jia wei xiao yao wan & zhu gang wang is for relaxation...

>

> the names are in chinese and have a chinese pronounciation... but if

you give it to a tcm doctor he/she should know what they are (i hope!)

>

> so his recommendation is for me to take this for a couple of months

and see how it goes.

>

> cheers

> 'brent'

>

January 7, 2009

the spelling is correct, it's just that you have to say it in a specific

intonation... for e.g the word 'shui' can be said in 4 different tones and

different tones mean different words

i dont think you can get this herbs online easily from one place in a small

dose, it's better to just get them from a tcm herb shop.

im going over to the tcm shop sometime soon. if they have stock, i might

consider getting stock for those of you who want to try but do not have access

to tcm medicine in your country.

brent

>

> Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:04 PM

> Guys and girls

>

> It would be AWESOME if someone who speaks Chinese could

> take a look at

> Brent's post and correct the spelling so that we can

> all google these

> herbs and order them online.

January 7, 2009

better still, take a picture and post the pic on this newsgroup... i can read

chinese (basic) or know people who can read advanced words so that might be of

some help.

brent

>

> Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 12:48 AM

> Mo, Could you read what the packaging the herbs came in says

> and post

> it for us, so some of us can track down this mystery herb?

> I'll fly

> to the UK to see this doctor if necessary, but I'd

> really like to see

> if something can be done for me in the USA.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> To: SSRIsex <mailto:SSRIsex%

> > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge,

> > took my

> > > > > > > > pulse.

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they

> > have

> > > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up

> > whatever

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > lacking.

> > > > > > > > > > > Jing

> > > > > > > > > > > > or

> jin or something i cant remeber gets

> > depleted and

> > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > > building

> > > > > > > > > > > up.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> am now normal. I only took one tablet every

> > seven

> > > > > > days. I

> > > > > > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> within seven days changes taking place.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting

> > with

> > > > > > complete

> > > > > > > > > > >

> impotence,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> took herbals that gave me erections, made very

> > slow

> > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> lacked libido until now. To think it was only

> > needed

> > > > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> specialist in herbal medicine and i would have

> > > > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> straightaway.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so

> > good,

> > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> libido, erections natural.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your

> > > > > > expereinces?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

January 7, 2009

Hey Mo, its been about a week since you first saw improvements from the

herbalist, can

you update us on how you are doing, is everything still normal.

Alan

> >

> > Hi Mo,

> >

> > Great recovery. Do you plan on continuing treatment from him a little

> > longer. Maybe it would continue to smooth everything out.

> >

>

January 7, 2009

I don't want to crush anyone's hopes and dreams, but I tried to fix my

pssd with Requip and it just made me extremely nauseous. I had to

quit it after a few weeks because I couldn't tolerate the nausea and I

got no results. All of us have different symptoms and our bodies are

all different, so it may work for some people, but Requip will

definitely not work for everyone.

> > >

> > > I agree chris jack.It does sound a bit too good to be true.

> > >

> > > There was a chinese doctor who had this site called actionlove

> > which

> > > claimed to have the answer for PSSD and that turned out to be a

> > scam.

> > > In any case we just have the one testimony. Hopefully others

will be

> > > able to corroborate.

> > >

> > > SSRIs are powerful drugs and while I believe herbs are able to

help

> > a

> > > complete cure sounds too good to be true! In any case chinese

> > medicine

> > > is unlikely to make things worse unlike some of the novel

> > medications

> > > like antipsychotics, wellbutrin and the other shit people are

taking

> > > and for a hundred or so it is worth a try.

> > >

> > > I like to think to myself that the Chinese population would

not be a

> > > couple billion if their medicine didn't work, so if this stuff

does

> > > help the PSSD I may well decide to see a Chinese doctor about my

> > > residual depression and insomnia

> > >

> >

>

January 7, 2009

I have been on wellbutrin for 8 days and it has done nothing except make it impossible to sleep. Ill give it 3 more weeks to make sure its had time to affect me as it should then report back. Requip has so many potential severe side effects it sacred me away. I read reviews on it and not one person recommended it. A few years ago PSSD was denied by docs now it is not. Progress is being made. I think we should contact a lawyer as a group to get things done quickly. No amount of money would make me happy only a cure, but we need to make noise. The squeaky wheel gets the greaseSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "joetz1" Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:58:30 -0000To: <SSRIsex >Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!! I don't want to crush anyone's hopes and dreams, but I tried to fix my pssd with Requip and it just made me extremely nauseous. I had to quit it after a few weeks because I couldn't tolerate the nausea and I got no results. All of us have different symptoms and our bodies are all different, so it may work for some people, but Requip will definitely not work for everyone. > > > > > > > > > I agree chris jack.It does sound a bit too good to be true. > > > > > > There was a chinese doctor who had this site called actionlove > > which > > > claimed to have the answer for PSSD and that turned out to be a > > scam. > > > In any case we just have the one testimony. Hopefully others will be > > > able to corroborate. > > > > > > SSRIs are powerful drugs and while I believe herbs are able to help > > a > > > complete cure sounds too good to be true! In any case chinese > > medicine > > > is unlikely to make things worse unlike some of the novel > > medications > > > like antipsychotics, wellbutrin and the other shit people are taking > > > and for a hundred or so it is worth a try. > > > > > > I like to think to myself that the Chinese population would not be a > > > couple billion if their medicine didn't work, so if this stuff does > > > help the PSSD I may well decide to see a Chinese doctor about my > > > residual depression and insomnia > > > > > >

January 9, 2009

A lawyer wont’ take the case until there’s a study that

demonstrates the existence of PSSD. Right now there’s only anecdotal evidence

and a few published case histories. The best thing you can do right now to

help things move forward is go to your doctor and make him take a case history

for possible publication.

Most of the work on PSSD has been done by a PH.D., so not a

doctor. Any non medical research won’t matter too much in court, especially

when depression’s diagnostic criteria includes sexual dysfunction. Without

disentangling depression related sexual dysfunction from PSSD, there’ll be no

case.

My doctor has taken a case history and contacted a

psychopharmacologist in my city to discuss a possible study. But then there’s

grant applications, and post market trials to run. It’ll be a few years before

there’s enough hard evidence that a suit makes sense.

From:

SSRIsex [mailto:SSRIsex ] On Behalf Of camelfootball36@...

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:28 PM

To: SSRIsex

Subject: Re: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

I have been on wellbutrin for 8 days and it has done nothing except make it

impossible to sleep. Ill give it 3 more weeks to make sure its had time to

affect me as it should then report back. Requip has so many potential severe

side effects it sacred me away. I read reviews on it and not one person

recommended it. A few years ago PSSD was denied by docs now it is not. Progress

is being made. I think we should contact a lawyer as a group to get things done

quickly. No amount of money would make me happy only a cure, but we need to

make noise. The squeaky wheel gets the grease

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

From: " joetz1 "

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:58:30 -0000

To: <SSRIsex >

Subject: Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

I don't want to crush anyone's hopes and

dreams, but I tried to fix my

pssd with Requip and it just made me extremely nauseous. I had to

quit it after a few weeks because I couldn't tolerate the nausea and I

got no results. All of us have different symptoms and our bodies are

all different, so it may work for some people, but Requip will

definitely not work for everyone.

> > >

> > > I agree chris jack.It does sound a bit too good to be true.

> > >

> > > There was a chinese doctor who had this site called actionlove

> > which

> > > claimed to have the answer for PSSD and that turned out to be a

> > scam.

> > > In any case we just have the one testimony. Hopefully others

will be

> > > able to corroborate.

> > >

> > > SSRIs are powerful drugs and while I believe herbs are able to

help

> > a

> > > complete cure sounds too good to be true! In any case chinese

> > medicine

> > > is unlikely to make things worse unlike some of the novel

> > medications

> > > like antipsychotics, wellbutrin and the other shit people are

taking

> > > and for a hundred or so it is worth a try.

> > >

> > > I like to think to myself that the Chinese population would

not be a

> > > couple billion if their medicine didn't work, so if this stuff

does

> > > help the PSSD I may well decide to see a Chinese doctor about my

> > > residual depression and insomnia

> > >

> >

>

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January 9, 2009

Hey all,

I had a word on the phone to Mo's doctor. I have to say I was not very

convinced. His theory seemed to be that it was all connected to

stress, trouble relaxing and poor sleep and said that I should see a

chinese doctor to try and address the stress issues and that should

help the PSSD. He did however provide a recommendation for someone

local to me.

Certainly I did not get the impression that there is a specific

formula he has that we could get hold of.

Does anyone else have any more information or had the chance to speak

to the doctor?

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