Re: How i recovered. I did it!!!

January 1, 2009

>OK -- we're all happy for you but tell us the details. What is a TCM

doctor? What specifically did he give you so we can all ask and try

it?

> Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I told

him

> about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an

> imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking.

Jing

> or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs building

up.

> I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I noticed

> within seven days changes taking place.

>

> Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete

impotence,

> took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but

always

> lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a

> specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe

> straightaway.

>

> BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and

> libido, erections natural.

>

> Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

>

January 1, 2009

To: Mo_attif

Could you direct us on what is the name of the medicine/herb and how to get it?

Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 7:28 AM

Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I told him about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking. Jing or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs building up. I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I noticed within seven days changes taking place.Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete impotence, took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but always lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe straightaway.BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and libido, erections natural.Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

January 1, 2009

Is this what you are taking?

http://www.the-fertility-acupuncturist.com/jing-in-chinese-medicine.html

I just did a search on google, "tcm doctor jing" and it looks like you went and saw a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor and are taking someting called Jing.

Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!To: SSRIsex Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I told him about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking. Jing or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs building up. I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I noticed within seven days changes taking place.Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete impotence, took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but always lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe straightaway.BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and libido, erections natural.Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

January 1, 2009

i dont know what i am taking its all in chinese writing but the

writing on tablets is english, the tablets are yellow and on one side

they say ying and on the other they say yin.

Whatever it is its made me feel normal. I look at a hottie and boom!.

like it used to be, natural and normal.

The chinese have a system of medicine 1000s of yrs old. I could not

understand exactly what the doctor was saying cos of his accent but i

recall him saying antidepressants mess your mind up and caused

imbalance which needs building back up which should be brought back

up quickly. I felt changes within seven days.

See, in china have western medicine universities and TCM

universities. They attend both to be a qualified doctor in china u

need to know herbalism as well or something like that i dont know for

sure what he was saying, the accent made it difficult, but he said

some things like this and he told me know about antidepressants and

all western drugs and can even prescribe them in china if need be but

also know the side effects etc and how to counter them, thats all i

picked up from him.

i suppose you can go to any chinese herbalist and you would be able

to find this medicine, if you explain anti-deprerssant side effects

on sexual ability.

>

> Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

>

> Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I told

him

> about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an

> imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking.

Jing

> or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs building

up.

> I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I noticed

> within seven days changes taking place.

>

> Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete

impotence,

> took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but

always

> lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a

> specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe

> straightaway.

>

> BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and

> libido, erections natural.

>

> Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

>

January 1, 2009

Mo,

Congratulations on your recovery and thanks for the information.

This is interesting and potentially very important. Is there any

chance you could take a picture of the box/packaging and post it to

the group so we could have a chinese person translate it?

Vornan

> >

> > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> > To: SSRIsex

> > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> >

> > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I

told

> him

> > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an

> > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking.

> Jing

> > or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs

building

> up.

> > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I

noticed

> > within seven days changes taking place.

> >

> > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete

> impotence,

> > took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but

> always

> > lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a

> > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe

> > straightaway.

> >

> > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and

> > libido, erections natural.

> >

> > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

> >

>

January 1, 2009

This " jing " sounds very interesting. Mo, can tell us exactly who you

saw and exactly what you got? I would be interested in trying what

you did. For now, here's a bunch of links I found related to this:

https://www.tcmassistant.com/symptoms/impotence.html

http://www.chineseherb.org.uk/index.php/impotence

http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/exam/specialties_menimpotence_understand.html

http://www.lcta.com/resources/dragonstale/documents/MaleSexualHealth.pdf

http://acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jing_(TCM)

http://www.backonyourfeet.com.au/blog/fertility-reproductive/libido-or-lack-of-i\

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> > >

> > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> > > To: SSRIsex

> > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > >

> > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I

> told

> > him

> > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an

> > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking.

> > Jing

> > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs

> building

> > up.

> > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I

> noticed

> > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > >

> > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete

> > impotence,

> > > took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but

> > always

> > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a

> > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe

> > > straightaway.

> > >

> > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and

> > > libido, erections natural.

> > >

> > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

> > >

> >

>

January 2, 2009

I wish I would have went straight into Chinese herbs in trying to

treat this instead of other experiments that left me worse off in some

ways.. But despite that, erections are much better with the Chinese

herbs.

There are different possible causes from impotence/libido issues in

chinese medicine - the whole jing deficiency or kidney yang deficiency

is one, but excess heat in the body causing stagnation is another.

My herbalist first used heat clearing herbs on me then included mostly

kidney yin herbs like (asparagus root aka tian men dong) - we have not

done too many yang type herbs yet (which are stuff like epimedium or

tongkat ali) because they can cause problems if the heat is not cleared.

Anyway, it's probably good to see a practitioner that can correctly

diagnose the pattern.

> > > >

> > > > From: mo_attif <mo_attif@>

> > > > Subject: How i recovered. I did it!!!

> > > > To: SSRIsex

> > > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM

> > > >

> > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I

> > told

> > > him

> > > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an

> > > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking.

> > > Jing

> > > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs

> > building

> > > up.

> > > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I

> > noticed

> > > > within seven days changes taking place.

> > > >

> > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete

> > > impotence,

> > > > took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but

> > > always

> > > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a

> > > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe

> > > > straightaway.

> > > >

> > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and

> > > > libido, erections natural.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 2, 2009

It would still be good to know which herbs he gave you, since there is trial and

error in any system. It sounds like this guy got the right ones for you on the

first attempt, but other TCM practitioners might not be as knowledgeable (or

lucky?). If there is any way you can fnd out what the herbs are, plase let us

know. Thanks.

Vornan

>

> regarding picture, im not too technically savvy but thats not really

> needed anyway.

>

> All people have to do is locate a genuine Traditional Chinese

> medicine practitioner and make an appointment and see them. Explain

> the full situation regarding your sexual problems and your prior

> antidepressant use. Let him work on you. Let him try to balance you.

> He is a professional in herbalism, we are not. He has had passed down

> 1000s of years of knowledge. We have not. The body can be healed. The

> body can be balanced. Its better he have a go at doing it than we

> self treat ourselves. The western medicne professionals are brain

> dead. They are more interested in chopping body parts off, treating

> symptoms and do not have real depth. Yes, western medcine does excel

> in some areas but in others it is way behind. TCM and other forms of

> medcine treat the causes and aim for balance. Clearly antidepressants

> put you in imbalance and it takes a professional to work out how to

> balance you back up and this can be done within a month, but maybe

> just time will heal you but if you get balanced you heal faster,

> maybe overtime you start to balance out anyway which is why people

> here have made recovery over the long term.

>

> TCM treats meantal problems as well as physical ailments, it views

> the mind and body as one. The mind effects physicality and vice versa.

> so when it balances you, it does so mentally and physically.

>

> What they call jing or chi or whatever does not matter, they are

> names just like dopamine is a name or testosterone is a name, the

> essence of TCM is that everything must be brought into balance and

> work in harmony mind and body for good health and they have

> discovered over 1000s of years various herbs to balance the body and

> mind. If you have been brought into too much heat there are certain

> herbs if tooo cold other herbs. He asked me if i slept well, how my

> hunger is, all sorts of questions on sex ability, checked my ntounge

> and pulse and then gave me some pills.

>

January 2, 2009

Vornan,

That is an excellent idea, my thought was to scan the label. If anyone remembers Cow Head pills,Tung Shueh Pills. They were outlawed in about 1993. FDA said they contained valium.

There was no Valium in the pills I would have know as I am allergic to Valium. Anyway, The CHPills totally arrested my Fibromyalgia and depression. Shortly after 1993 a barrage of fake CHPills were everywhere and of course they did not work . My 90 year old cousin who was bent over and using a walker was totally transformed by CHPills. A couple of days after starting them she stood strait up and was able to climb steps independently. Her cheeks had a rosy color and she looked 20 years younger. These pills had a translation to English that said it moves away poison black blood. Of course I would love to get my hand on the real pills but have read that the factory in China was closed. These were an arthritis sufferers dream as well as Fibromyalgia. I believe firmly in the Chinese medical system.

I think this just might be the answer to our problem with PSSD.

Judy

How i recovered. I did it!!!> > To: SSRIsex > > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:28 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Went to a tcm doctor, he looked at my tounge, took my pulse. I told > him > > about ssri use and lack of libido. He said they have caused an > > imbalance. Gave me some tablets to build up whatever was lacking. > Jing > > or jin or something i cant remeber gets depleted and needs building > up. > > I am now normal. I only took one tablet every seven days. I noticed > > within seven days changes taking place.> > > > Previously i suffered for 2.5 years starting with complete > impotence, > > took herbals that gave me erections, made very slow progress but > always > > lacked libido until now. To think it was only needed to see a > > specialist in herbal medicine and i would have recovered maybe > > straightaway.> > > > BUT, is it going to be permanent? so far so good, feel normal and > > libido, erections natural.> > > > Anyone been to TCM practitioners? What are your expereinces?> >>

January 2, 2009

My hunch is that if you go to a chinese herbalist they will more than

likely prescribe you something else. If you tell them you want what

MO had they will most problably say it the wrong one for you as they

look at every person individually. Still, this is the best news yet,

and being a westerner, I have no doubt that ones that worked for Mo

are the ones for the rest of us.

To get my sexuality back would turn my whole life around; it's a

dream I can hardly believe. That would be amazing.

Kavy

> >

> > regarding picture, im not too technically savvy but thats not

really

> > needed anyway.

> >

> > All people have to do is locate a genuine Traditional Chinese

> > medicine practitioner and make an appointment and see them.

Explain

> > the full situation regarding your sexual problems and your prior

> > antidepressant use. Let him work on you. Let him try to balance

you.

> > He is a professional in herbalism, we are not. He has had passed

down

> > 1000s of years of knowledge. We have not. The body can be healed.

The

> > body can be balanced. Its better he have a go at doing it than we

> > self treat ourselves. The western medicne professionals are brain

> > dead. They are more interested in chopping body parts off,

treating

> > symptoms and do not have real depth. Yes, western medcine does

excel

> > in some areas but in others it is way behind. TCM and other forms

of

> > medcine treat the causes and aim for balance. Clearly

antidepressants

> > put you in imbalance and it takes a professional to work out how

to

> > balance you back up and this can be done within a month, but

maybe

> > just time will heal you but if you get balanced you heal faster,

> > maybe overtime you start to balance out anyway which is why

people

> > here have made recovery over the long term.

> >

> > TCM treats meantal problems as well as physical ailments, it

views

> > the mind and body as one. The mind effects physicality and vice

versa.

> > so when it balances you, it does so mentally and physically.

> >

> > What they call jing or chi or whatever does not matter, they are

> > names just like dopamine is a name or testosterone is a name, the

> > essence of TCM is that everything must be brought into balance

and

> > work in harmony mind and body for good health and they have

> > discovered over 1000s of years various herbs to balance the body

and

> > mind. If you have been brought into too much heat there are

certain

> > herbs if tooo cold other herbs. He asked me if i slept well, how

my

> > hunger is, all sorts of questions on sex ability, checked my

ntounge

> > and pulse and then gave me some pills.

> >

>

January 2, 2009

Mo_Attif, congratulations. I can only imagine how good you must be feeling in

having

your sexual function back.

i have been to a TCM doctor, he prescribed me a 2 months supply of chinese

medicine. It

however did nothing for me. It was different to what you have taken because i

had to take

these medicines every day, twice a day. The ones you took had to be taken less

often, so

they may be a difference in ingredients etcc....

We all need to try this medicine, the one you took, the Brand and the dose.

is it possible please, if you could ask your TCM doctor the name and brand,

maybe say to

him someone you know wants to try this exact medicine, and what he would ask for

to

get the exact same medicine.

Many Thanks and congratulations

alan