Re: Bag balm in the NICU??

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Oh Jaye, you are KIDDING!!! Bag balm is very healing for nasty cracked old adult feet. My Aunt Betsy used it on her face and she had lovely skin. But on a baby's butt? No way.... Love to see the appropriate documentation on that one!

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Bag balm in the NICU??

Hi All,

You gotta tell me if I am nuts or they are. I just talked to a mom with a baby (born 7-5 at 34.5 wks gest) in NICU – he has anal fissures. He has had streaking of blood in his stools as a result of the fissures. He is ONLY breastmilk fed – sometimes at breast, sometimes on bottle. To help the fissures the NICU is putting Bag Balm (yes, Bag Balm in the square green tin can – the stuff they use on cow udders…) on his bottom. I was FLOORED.

Am I nuts in thinking this is totally inappropriate or not? Bag Balm is for cow udders…not premie baby rectums. I told mom that I was surprised and that I did not agree with such use and why. I also told her I would ask my colleagues to make sure I am not out of line…

Thoughts?

Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

Breastfeeding Network

Sacramento, CA

www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

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Here are the ingredientshttp://www.livestrong.com/article/135928-the-ingredients-bag-balm/ Dana Schmidt, BS, RN, IBCLCCradlehold, DirectorBreastfeeding Education & Supportwww.cradlehold.netwww.facebook.com/CradleholdBreastfeedingEducationandsupportProviding the minimum amount of intervention for the minimum amount of time for maximum benefit to mother and babyHow Were YOU Supported to Breastfeed?http://www.usbreastfeeding.org/LegislationPolicy/ActionCampaigns/SupportStories/tabid/198/Default.aspxFrom: "ibclc@..." To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: Bag balm in the NICU??

Oh Jaye, you are KIDDING!!! Bag balm is very healing for nasty cracked old adult feet. My Aunt Betsy used it on her face and she had lovely skin. But on a baby's butt? No way.... Love to see the appropriate documentation on that one!

http://www.motherofbridebyjan.blogspot.com

Bag balm in the NICU??

Hi All,

You gotta tell me if I am nuts or they are. I just talked to a mom with a baby (born 7-5 at 34.5 wks gest) in NICU – he has anal fissures. He has had streaking of blood in his stools as a result of the fissures. He is ONLY breastmilk fed – sometimes at breast, sometimes on bottle. To help the fissures the NICU is putting Bag Balm (yes, Bag Balm in the square green tin can – the stuff they use on cow udders…) on his bottom. I was FLOORED.

Am I nuts in thinking this is totally inappropriate or not? Bag Balm is for cow udders…not premie baby rectums. I told mom that I was surprised and that I did not agree with such use and why. I also told her I would ask my colleagues to make sure I am not out of line…

Thoughts?

Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

Breastfeeding Network

Sacramento, CA

www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

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I was told to use this on my nipples when I had my first baby over 20 years

ago!?

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> Hi All,

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> You gotta tell me if I am nuts or they are. I just talked to a mom with a

> baby (born 7-5 at 34.5 wks gest) in NICU - he has anal fissures. He has had

> streaking of blood in his stools as a result of the fissures. He is ONLY

> breastmilk fed - sometimes at breast, sometimes on bottle. To help the

> fissures the NICU is putting Bag Balm (yes, Bag Balm in the square green tin

> can - the stuff they use on cow udders.) on his bottom. I was FLOORED.

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> Am I nuts in thinking this is totally inappropriate or not? Bag Balm is for

> cow udders.not premie baby rectums. I told mom that I was surprised and

> that I did not agree with such use and why. I also told her I would ask my

> colleagues to make sure I am not out of line.

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> Thoughts?

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> Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

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> Breastfeeding Network

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> Sacramento, CA

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> www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

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[Guest guest]

Gosh, might as well just put some lansinoh on his butt! - at least there would

be carcinogenic chemicals (in bag balm)

Seriously though - it doesn't shock me since evidence based medicine doesn't

seem to find its way into the hospital very often, but if I was in your

position jaye - I would have told her to definitely question their treatment

plan.

1st step should not be to put bag balm, but to find the Cause - with a capital C

(which I'm thinking is a combination of his prematurity and a trigger of some

sort - what type of diapers are they using? hopefully either 100% cotton or

nature babycare or some other non-toxic chemical free diaper)

2nd step would be to put something non carcinogenic on the little babe's bottom

until the cause is found and addressed.

good luck

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> Here are the ingredients

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> http://www.livestrong.com/article/135928-the-ingredients-bag-balm/

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> Dana Schmidt, BS, RN, IBCLC

> Cradlehold, Director

> Breastfeeding Education & Support

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> www.cradlehold.net

> www.facebook.com/CradleholdBreastfeedingEducationandsupport

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> Providing the minimum amount of intervention for the minimum amount of time

for maximum benefit to mother and baby

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> How Were YOU Supported to Breastfeed?

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http://www.usbreastfeeding.org/LegislationPolicy/ActionCampaigns/SupportStories/\

tabid/198/Default.aspx

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> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:22 PM

> Subject: Re: Bag balm in the NICU??

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> Oh Jaye, you are KIDDING!!!  Bag balm is very healing for nasty cracked old

adult feet.  My Aunt Betsy used it on her face and she had lovely skin.  But

on a baby's butt?  No way.... Love to see the appropriate documentation on that

one!

>

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> http://www.motherofbridebyjan.blogspot.com

>

>

> Bag balm in the NICU??

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> Hi All,

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> You gotta tell me if I am nuts or they are.  I just talked to a mom with a

baby (born 7-5 at 34.5 wks gest) in NICU †" he has anal fissures.  He has had

streaking of blood in his stools as a result of the fissures.  He is ONLY

breastmilk fed †" sometimes at breast, sometimes on bottle.  To help the

fissures the NICU is putting Bag Balm (yes, Bag Balm in the square green tin can

†" the stuff they use on cow udders…) on his bottom.  I was FLOORED. 

>  

> Am I nuts in thinking this is totally inappropriate or not?  Bag Balm is for

cow udders…not premie baby rectums.  I told mom that I was surprised and that

I did not agree with such use and why.  I also told her I would ask my

colleagues to make sure I am not out of line…

>  

> Thoughts?

>  

> Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

> Breastfeeding Network

> Sacramento, CA

> www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

>  

>

[Guest guest]

NEVER heard of this treatment. Crazy!

Gosh, might as well just put some lansinoh on his butt! - at least there would be carcinogenic chemicals (in bag balm)

Seriously though - it doesn't shock me since evidence based medicine doesn't seem to find its way into the hospital very often, but if I was in your position jaye - I would have told her to definitely question their treatment plan.

1st step should not be to put bag balm, but to find the Cause - with a capital C (which I'm thinking is a combination of his prematurity and a trigger of some sort - what type of diapers are they using? hopefully either 100% cotton or nature babycare or some other non-toxic chemical free diaper)

2nd step would be to put something non carcinogenic on the little babe's bottom until the cause is found and addressed.

good luck

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> Here are the ingredients

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> http://www.livestrong.com/article/135928-the-ingredients-bag-balm/

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> Dana Schmidt, BS, RN, IBCLC

> Cradlehold, Director

> Breastfeeding Education & Support

>

> www.cradlehold.net

> www.facebook.com/CradleholdBreastfeedingEducationandsupport

>

> Providing the minimum amount of intervention for the minimum amount of time for maximum benefit to mother and baby

>

> How Were YOU Supported to Breastfeed?

> http://www.usbreastfeeding.org/LegislationPolicy/ActionCampaigns/SupportStories/tabid/198/Default.aspx

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> To:

> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:22 PM

> Subject: Re: Bag balm in the NICU??

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> Oh Jaye, you are KIDDING!!! Bag balm is very healing for nasty cracked old adult feet. My Aunt Betsy used it on her face and she had lovely skin. But on a baby's butt? No way.... Love to see the appropriate documentation on that one!

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> http://www.motherofbridebyjan.blogspot.com

>

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> Bag balm in the NICU??

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> Hi All,

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> You gotta tell me if I am nuts or they are. I just talked to a mom with a baby (born 7-5 at 34.5 wks gest) in NICU â€" he has anal fissures. He has had streaking of blood in his stools as a result of the fissures. He is ONLY breastmilk fed â€" sometimes at breast, sometimes on bottle. To help the fissures the NICU is putting Bag Balm (yes, Bag Balm in the square green tin can â€" the stuff they use on cow udders…) on his bottom. I was FLOORED.Â

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> Am I nuts in thinking this is totally inappropriate or not? Bag Balm is for cow udders…not premie baby rectums. I told mom that I was surprised and that I did not agree with such use and why. I also told her I would ask my colleagues to make sure I am not out of line…

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> Thoughts?

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> Jaye Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

> Breastfeeding Network

> Sacramento, CA

> www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

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