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Posted

Do you know if it is possible to switch to HCS later when the person's name

comes up if you get CLASS services before a person turns 18?

Also, as a person who has worked with the HCS program, can you offer any tips

or advice on how to organize or present need requests to help them move

through the system easier?

Gaylen

Posted

Thank you so much for taking the time to share all that. Invaluable. So

many parents are asking me about this stuff - and I have no idea since my son's

still on the list!

Please - ya'll post your experiences with these programs, what you are

learning, researching as you make your choices!

This is so valuable for the rest of us for when our children's names come up.

Thanks so much!

Sincerely,

Guppy

Hi a,

We chose HCS because the annual spending caps are significantly

higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000, while HCS cap is as high

as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's Level of Need as

determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and Agency Planning). My

boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of need with about $20-30,000

more per year available for each child than on the CLASS program (remember

that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to intermediaries who are

your case managers, etc. - something like $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

starters). I may not be quoting these figures exactly right (can't lay my

hands on them right now), but when we looked at the numbers someone in

Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision. HCS pays for residential

care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my understanding that CLASS

assists with supporting an individual who lives independently in an

apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a check book, etc.), but

doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was significant for us, as I

don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would even want to live by

themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year for dental care (not sure

if CLASS does that).

FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to meet the individual's

needs and different services are paid at different rates (I think attendant

care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an idea of the quality of

service you may be able to receive). In other words, you don't get a lump

sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for services that may or may not

serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this step of the journey!

With all that said, not everyone who comes up on the

CLASS list has a choice between the programs. Apparently my boys were due

up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification letter, so MHMR was

allowed to offer us a choice. I know other individuals who have been

offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS list and haven't had the

option of this choice.

LHS

M. Guppy - What we do for ourselves lasts only a moment; but what we

do for others ~ lasts a lifetime...

Don't tell God how big your storm is, tell the storm how big your God is!

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Posted

We have HCS. If you chose you can receive Care and you are

actually paid x amount of dollars per day for the individual depending

on their level of independence. It does help to pay for his ABA along

with his SSI and my Social Security check.

Posted

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

,

Thanks so much for the detailed info. I'm learning all this stuff as I go

along! By the way, I can't believe your boys are 16 now--where has the time

gone? Thanks again, ~

a

HCS

Hi a,

We chose HCS because the annual spending caps are significantly

higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000, while HCS cap is as high

as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's Level of Need as

determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and Agency Planning). My

boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of need with about $20-30,000

more per year available for each child than on the CLASS program (remember

that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to intermediaries who are

your case managers, etc. - something like $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

starters). I may not be quoting these figures exactly right (can't lay my

hands on them right now), but when we looked at the numbers someone in

Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision. HCS pays for residential

care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my understanding that CLASS

assists with supporting an individual who lives independently in an

apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a check book, etc.), but

doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was significant for us, as I

don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would even want to live by

themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year for dental care (not sure

if CLASS does that).

FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to meet the individual's

needs and different services are paid at different rates (I think attendant

care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an idea of the quality of

service you may be able to receive). In other words, you don't get a lump

sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for services that may or may not

serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this step of the journey!

With all that said, not everyone who comes up on the

CLASS list has a choice between the programs. Apparently my boys were due

up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification letter, so MHMR was

allowed to offer us a choice. I know other individuals who have been

offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS list and haven't had the

option of this choice.

LHS

Posted

Hi Valarie. Are you a parent as well as an educator of special needs children?

My hat's off to you if you are spending time with the group learning more and

you are not a parent! If you are a parent, too, then my heart goes out to you

and I'm glad you are online now! I also ask alot of " basic " questions. Thanks

for asking this one!

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

No, I am not a parent of a special needs child, just an educator. My hat is off

to the wonderful parents who take such a profound interest in their child's

education and welfare. As an educator, I believe that parents do not always get

what they are entitled to and I would like to see some changes take place. I am

enjoying being in this group.

Thanks, Valarie

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

Hi Valarie. Are you a parent as well as an educator of special needs children?

My hat's off to you if you are spending time with the group learning more and

you are not a parent! If you are a parent, too, then my heart goes out to you

and I'm glad you are online now! I also ask alot of " basic " questions. Thanks

for asking this one!

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

oh my goodness, to hear you say our kids are not getting enough of what they are

entitled to is amazing to me! i am currently fighting our school district for

services for our three yr old and i have such a negative feeling about our

schools right now, you give me hope! any chance i could convince you to become

director of our special ed dept. some day?????

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

,

Where do you live? I am sorry that you are having the same problems that I see

on a daily basis. I stay so frustrated by the lack of concern and programs for

our precious students and children. Keep fighting and so will I!

Valarie

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

oh my goodness, to hear you say our kids are not getting enough of what they

are entitled to is amazing to me! i am currently fighting our school district

for services for our three yr old and i have such a negative feeling about our

schools right now, you give me hope! any chance i could convince you to become

director of our special ed dept. some day?????

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

I live in Katy, Tx. I am sure you have heard we have a " great school district

for special ed " because I get told that alot when I go to meetings, conferences,

etc... I think our school district did a good job marketing themselves but now

that I am dealing with them on the other end of it, services for autism are

disturbingly non-existent at the level that the kids are actually being taught

new things. My " regular ed " friends are shocked when I tell them the lack of

resources offered to my boys (ages 5 and 3) because they have seen my kids in

action! As one of my sweet friends put it, " if a nonverbal child doesn't

qualify for frequent speech therapy than I don't know who does! " I have learned

from those before me (yes , I mean you!) to not get emotional but to

try to get things changed. It's just so exhausting being in mama-bear mode all

the time. Thanks for asking,

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

I live in Katy, too. We moved here to get out of Lamar ISD. I have been very

pleased with the services they provide and the willingness of the staff to

listen and integrate ideas and input. I am curious to know which school your

children are attending?

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

I live in Katy, Tx. I am sure you have heard we have a " great school

district for special ed " because I get told that alot when I go to meetings,

conferences, etc... I think our school district did a good job marketing

themselves but now that I am dealing with them on the other end of it, services

for autism are disturbingly non-existent at the level that the kids are actually

being taught new things. My " regular ed " friends are shocked when I tell them

the lack of resources offered to my boys (ages 5 and 3) because they have seen

my kids in action! As one of my sweet friends put it, " if a nonverbal child

doesn't qualify for frequent speech therapy than I don't know who does! " I have

learned from those before me (yes , I mean you!) to not get emotional

but to try to get things changed. It's just so exhausting being in mama-bear

mode all the time. Thanks for asking,

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Posted

We live in the Grand Lakes subdivision and we are zoned to R. Elem.

Katy has an " ECAP " program started 2 yrs. ago that we are being denied access to

for my " severly autistic " (KISD's terms)

3 yr. old son. ECAP stands for Early Childhood Autism Program. The district

did not even bring up the program, I know families who are already in and

therefore knew to ask about my son's placement there. Three ARD's, an advocate

and one attorney later, we are going to the resolution/due process stage.

Actually, at this point we are very disgusted with the powers that be in KISD.

I have seen more political run-around than I ever thought possible when

discussing the welfare of a little three year old boy who we feel has alot of

potential. Where is your child at?

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

How do you apply for HCS?

Re: HCS

,

Where do you live? I am sorry that you are having the same problems that I see

on a daily basis. I stay so frustrated by the lack of concern and programs for

our precious students and children. Keep fighting and so will I!

Valarie

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

oh my goodness, to hear you say our kids are not getting enough of what they

are entitled to is amazing to me! i am currently fighting our school district

for services for our three yr old and i have such a negative feeling about our

schools right now, you give me hope! any chance i could convince you to become

director of our special ed dept. some day?????

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

If it makes you feel any better? Cy-Fair is suppose to be great. Awhile back

they let my son remove all his clothes and pee on the ground while the teachers

just observed. They told him to pick it all up but why would they get

themselves in that situation? Public school unfortunately is not the best for

our kiddos. If only ABA was affordable for all, that would be the answer for

them.

Re: HCS

I live in Katy, too. We moved here to get out of Lamar ISD. I have been very

pleased with the services they provide and the willingness of the staff to

listen and integrate ideas and input. I am curious to know which school your

children are attending?

" Dr. Graham-Garza " wrote:

I live in Katy, Tx. I am sure you have heard we have a " great school

district for special ed " because I get told that alot when I go to meetings,

conferences, etc... I think our school district did a good job marketing

themselves but now that I am dealing with them on the other end of it, services

for autism are disturbingly non-existent at the level that the kids are actually

being taught new things. My " regular ed " friends are shocked when I tell them

the lack of resources offered to my boys (ages 5 and 3) because they have seen

my kids in action! As one of my sweet friends put it, " if a nonverbal child

doesn't qualify for frequent speech therapy than I don't know who does! " I have

learned from those before me (yes , I mean you!) to not get emotional

but to try to get things changed. It's just so exhausting being in mama-bear

mode all the time. Thanks for asking,

Re: HCS

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and have no idea what CLASS

and HCS is. I am an educator, but of young children

with autism (PPCD). I don't know what is out there for

older children and adults with autism. I would

appreciate any information you can provide.

Thank, Valarie

--- Sostack wrote:

> Hi a,

>

> We chose HCS because the annual spending

> caps are significantly

> higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> while HCS cap is as high

> as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> Level of Need as

> determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> Agency Planning). My

> boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> need with about $20-30,000

> more per year available for each child than on the

> CLASS program (remember

> that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> intermediaries who are

> your case managers, etc. - something like

> $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> exactly right (can't lay my

> hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> numbers someone in

> Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> HCS pays for residential

> care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> understanding that CLASS

> assists with supporting an individual who lives

> independently in an

> apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> check book, etc.), but

> doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> significant for us, as I

> don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> even want to live by

> themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> for dental care (not sure

> if CLASS does that).

>

> FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> meet the individual's

> needs and different services are paid at different

> rates (I think attendant

> care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> idea of the quality of

> service you may be able to receive). In other

> words, you don't get a lump

> sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> services that may or may not

> serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> step of the journey!

>

> With all that said, not

> everyone who comes up on the

> CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> Apparently my boys were due

> up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> letter, so MHMR was

> allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> individuals who have been

> offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> list and haven't had the

> option of this choice.

>

>

>

> LHS

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

Posted

Hi, . We are in KatyISD too. We are having the same problems

getting an appropriat setting for our eight year old son. I knew

about the ECAP, but what is the YCAP? I have been told that there is

no " program " for autistic school age kids. Is this correct? thanks,

a

>

> > Hi a,

> >

> > We chose HCS because the annual spending

> > caps are significantly

> > higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> > while HCS cap is as high

> > as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> > Level of Need as

> > determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> > Agency Planning). My

> > boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> > need with about $20-30,000

> > more per year available for each child than on the

> > CLASS program (remember

> > that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> > intermediaries who are

> > your case managers, etc. - something like

> > $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> > starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> > exactly right (can't lay my

> > hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> > numbers someone in

> > Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> > HCS pays for residential

> > care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> > understanding that CLASS

> > assists with supporting an individual who lives

> > independently in an

> > apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> > check book, etc.), but

> > doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> > significant for us, as I

> > don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> > even want to live by

> > themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> > for dental care (not sure

> > if CLASS does that).

> >

> > FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> > meet the individual's

> > needs and different services are paid at different

> > rates (I think attendant

> > care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> > idea of the quality of

> > service you may be able to receive). In other

> > words, you don't get a lump

> > sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> > services that may or may not

> > serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> > step of the journey!

> >

> > With all that said, not

> > everyone who comes up on the

> > CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> > Apparently my boys were due

> > up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> > letter, so MHMR was

> > allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> > individuals who have been

> > offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> > list and haven't had the

> > option of this choice.

> >

> >

> >

> > LHS

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

Posted

No that is not correct! As of @ two years ago, Audrey Bivens created the ECAP

and YCAP programs for autistic kids in KISD. The YCAP is " young childhood autism

program " and as far as I can tell, serves the elementary aged group. I do not

know what campuses they are at! My boys are 3 and 5 and we've been struggling

to get straight answers from the school district concerning placement for our

three yr old. The attorney we had to consult with said that it is a lack of

funding and lack of space issue so the district is careful to not give out any

info. on either program. I would email Audrey Bivens directly at

AudreyBivens@... (i think that's it-let me know if that doesn't work)

and simply ask her the what, where and how of YCAP. I'm curious to see what

response you receive. Good Luck!!

Re: HCS

Hi, . We are in KatyISD too. We are having the same problems

getting an appropriat setting for our eight year old son. I knew

about the ECAP, but what is the YCAP? I have been told that there is

no " program " for autistic school age kids. Is this correct? thanks,

a

>

> > Hi a,

> >

> > We chose HCS because the annual spending

> > caps are significantly

> > higher than for CLASS (CLASS cap is about $68,000,

> > while HCS cap is as high

> > as $178,000, or so, depending on the individual's

> > Level of Need as

> > determined by an ICAP, or Inventory for Client and

> > Agency Planning). My

> > boys were assessed at about a mid-range level of

> > need with about $20-30,000

> > more per year available for each child than on the

> > CLASS program (remember

> > that the spending cap includes all the funds paid to

> > intermediaries who are

> > your case managers, etc. - something like

> > $1,300-$1,800 a month, for

> > starters). I may not be quoting these figures

> > exactly right (can't lay my

> > hands on them right now), but when we looked at the

> > numbers someone in

> > Austin gave me, it was not a difficult decision.

> > HCS pays for residential

> > care in a group home. CLASS does not. It's my

> > understanding that CLASS

> > assists with supporting an individual who lives

> > independently in an

> > apartment (e.g.-assistants to help with balancing a

> > check book, etc.), but

> > doesn't pay for a residential placement. That was

> > significant for us, as I

> > don't imagine my boys will be living alone (or would

> > even want to live by

> > themselves). Also, HCS pays up to $1,000 per year

> > for dental care (not sure

> > if CLASS does that).

> >

> > FYI, the CLASS or HCS provider develops a program to

> > meet the individual's

> > needs and different services are paid at different

> > rates (I think attendant

> > care pays at $7.83 per hour, so that gives you an

> > idea of the quality of

> > service you may be able to receive). In other

> > words, you don't get a lump

> > sum to spend - it's all paid out directly for

> > services that may or may not

> > serve your child well --- can't wait to begin this

> > step of the journey!

> >

> > With all that said, not

> > everyone who comes up on the

> > CLASS list has a choice between the programs.

> > Apparently my boys were due

> > up on HCS within months of the CLASS notification

> > letter, so MHMR was

> > allowed to offer us a choice. I know other

> > individuals who have been

> > offered CLASS but are not near the top of the HCS

> > list and haven't had the

> > option of this choice.

> >

> >

> >

> > LHS

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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