Re: Stay away from distilled water!

[Guest guest]

Stay away from distille dwater!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time it might

be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very serious detox and need

a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water that had balanced strace

minerals,

I drank about agallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period and threw

my body off balance so much through the loss of trace minerals, that may seizure

came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free and medicine free!

I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

Angie

Ringas wrote:

Warren Rekow wrote:

> Char, & all,

> I don't have a complete or satisfying answer to this matter of a

> " charge " in water, but suspect that it may have some relationship to

> the subtle energy mechanics that enable a homeopathic solution to

> demonstrate effect. The work of Dr. Masaru Emoto with the formation of

> ice crystals (book: " The Hidden Messages in Water " et al) may also be

> relevant. Wilhelm Reich's work showing Orgone's affinity to water may

> likewise be relevant. There is the work of Schauberger and others too.

> Seems like there may be some fascinating water research opportunities

> here for those who are willing and able to venture beyond the

> conventional electromagnetic spectrum perspective.

> Warren Rekow

This may all be true, but my understanding is that for these types of

" charges " to occur, you have to have some sort of " natural " water that

has minerals in it to be " charged " . Distilled water doesn't have any

minerals in it and the water molecules are ungrouped, so it doesn't seem

to me that it could be negatively " charged " as claimed.

Regards,

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

McGuire wrote:

> Stay away from distille dwater!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time it

might be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very serious detox and

need a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water that had balanced strace

minerals,

>

> I drank about agallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period and

threw my body off balance so much through the loss of trace minerals, that may

seizure came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free and medicine free!

>

> I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

>

> Angie

>

There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

right through you.

So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

be problematic.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

In commercial desalinization plants for human/commercial use, calcium

(carbonate?) is added to the water before it's sent out of the plant,

and the water is still far cleaner and more pure than what we'd normally

get. Distilled water is Very reactive, and will pull minerals out of

whatever it's in, our bodies included.. In commercial plants, they found

very rapidly that distilled water eats up the piping etc it's pumped

thru (having worked for a company who ran one of these plants!) unless

it was pH corrected first.. Also, Calcium can be a problem for those

with heart problems (been there..)

- Dave

Ringas wrote:

> McGuire wrote:

>

>>Stay away from distille dwater!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time it

might be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very serious detox and

need a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water that had balanced strace

minerals,

>>

>>I drank about agallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period and

threw my body off balance so much through the loss of trace minerals, that may

seizure came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free and medicine free!

>>

>>I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

>>

>>Angie

>>

> There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

> some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

> its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

> distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

> and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

> that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

> kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

> that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

> which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

> performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

> When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

> right through you.

>

> So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

> adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

> the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

> water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

> worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

> be problematic.

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi Dave:

when you say calcium in the water could be a 'problem' fro people with heart

problems, what did you mean by that, and what kind of problem would that be?

also, did you mean calcium in the 'distilled' water, or in any kind of water?

thanks,

v.

Dave wrote:

In commercial desalinization plants for human/commercial use, calcium

(carbonate?) is added to the water before it's sent out of the plant,

and the water is still far cleaner and more pure than what we'd normally

get. Distilled water is Very reactive, and will pull minerals out of

whatever it's in, our bodies included.. In commercial plants, they found

very rapidly that distilled water eats up the piping etc it's pumped

thru (having worked for a company who ran one of these plants!) unless

it was pH corrected first.. Also, Calcium can be a problem for those

with heart problems (been there..)

- Dave

Ringas wrote:

> McGuire wrote:

>

>>Stay away from distille dwater!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time it

might be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very serious detox and

need a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water that had balanced strace

minerals,

>>

>>I drank about agallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period and

threw my body off balance so much through the loss of trace minerals, that may

seizure came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free and medicine free!

>>

>>I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

>>

>>Angie

>>

> There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

> some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

> its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

> distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

> and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

> that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

> kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

> that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

> which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

> performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

> When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

> right through you.

>

> So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

> adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

> the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

> water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

> worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

> be problematic.

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and Dave,

Thanks for your replies about distilled water.

Does this imply that distilled water might be useful in pulling unwanted excess

minerals or metals from the body, similar to chelation? Or would it deplete the

good and necessary minerals first? Does anyone know if there's been any decent

research done on this? From the comments below, it would seem that if distilled

water is beneficial in this way, someone would maybe need to also use regular

water (perhaps at a different time of day?), and supplement with needed

minerals.

Char

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave

In commercial desalinization plants for human/commercial use, calcium

(carbonate?) is added to the water before it's sent out of the plant,

and the water is still far cleaner and more pure than what we'd normally

get. Distilled water is Very reactive, and will pull minerals out of

whatever it's in, our bodies included.. In commercial plants, they found

very rapidly that distilled water eats up the piping etc it's pumped

thru (having worked for a company who ran one of these plants!) unless

it was pH corrected first.. Also, Calcium can be a problem for those

with heart problems (been there..)

- Dave

Ringas wrote:

> There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

> some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

> its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

> distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

> and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

> that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

> kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

> that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

> which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

> performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

> When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

> right through you.

>

> So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

> adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

> the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

> water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

> worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

> be problematic.

>

> Regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have three stills and have drank distilled water for many years.

Good minerals come from vegetables that take them from the ground and

convert them into something the human body can absorb. The minerals in

city water that may have come from ground water and been mixed with

everything in the world in their traverse through the city water pipes

are not nearly as good for you as something a plant handed you after

processing it from ground water. Water taken from a farm well out in

the middle of West Texas with nothing to contaminate it is a far cry

from what we drink from city water pipes.

If distilled water posed a problem, I am wondering if it produced a

detoxifying effect by starting to eliminate a substance stored in the

body that should not have been there. Given long enough and done with

moderation, I am wondering if the balance could have been restored where

your body would have felt great drinking distilled water.

Harvey

Stay away from distiller water!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time

it might be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very

serious detox and need a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water

that had balanced trace minerals,

I drank about a gallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period

and threw my body off balance so much through the loss of trace

minerals, that may seizure came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free

and medicine free!

I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

Angie

Ringas wrote:

Warren Rekow wrote:

> Char, & all,

> I don't have a complete or satisfying answer to this matter of a

> " charge " in water, but suspect that it may have some relationship to

> the subtle energy mechanics that enable a homeopathic solution to

> demonstrate effect. The work of Dr. Masaru Emoto with the formation of

> ice crystals (book: " The Hidden Messages in Water " et al) may also be

> relevant. Wilhelm Reich's work showing Orgone's affinity to water may

> likewise be relevant. There is the work of Schauberger and others too.

> Seems like there may be some fascinating water research opportunities

> here for those who are willing and able to venture beyond the

> conventional electromagnetic spectrum perspective.

> Warren Rekow

This may all be true, but my understanding is that for these types of

" charges " to occur, you have to have some sort of " natural " water that

has minerals in it to be " charged " . Distilled water doesn't have any

minerals in it and the water molecules are ungrouped, so it doesn't seem

to me that it could be negatively " charged " as claimed.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Certainly possible, although pure water (distilled) pulls everything

out, so there's no selectivity. Perhaps there are some chemists online

who can address this?

As example, what would pull non-soluble calcium (which promotes clogging

of the arteries) or lead, or mercury out selectively? Soluble calcium

is good for us, helps build bones etc, but the other version is bad

news, particularly for those with heart problems.

-Dave

CB wrote:

> Hi and Dave,

> Thanks for your replies about distilled water.

>

> Does this imply that distilled water might be useful in pulling unwanted

excess minerals or metals from the body, similar to chelation? Or would it

deplete the good and necessary minerals first? Does anyone know if there's been

any decent research done on this? From the comments below, it would seem that

if distilled water is beneficial in this way, someone would maybe need to also

use regular water (perhaps at a different time of day?), and supplement with

needed minerals.

>

> Char

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Dave

>

>

> In commercial desalinization plants for human/commercial use, calcium

> (carbonate?) is added to the water before it's sent out of the plant,

> and the water is still far cleaner and more pure than what we'd normally

> get. Distilled water is Very reactive, and will pull minerals out of

> whatever it's in, our bodies included.. In commercial plants, they found

> very rapidly that distilled water eats up the piping etc it's pumped

> thru (having worked for a company who ran one of these plants!) unless

> it was pH corrected first.. Also, Calcium can be a problem for those

> with heart problems (been there..)

> - Dave

>

> Ringas wrote:

>

> > There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

> > some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

> > its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

> > distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

> > and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

> > that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

> > kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

> > that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

> > which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

> > performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

> > When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

> > right through you.

> >

> > So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

> > adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

> > the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

> > water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

> > worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

> > be problematic.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No. Distilled weater does not have calcium in it. Things like meats,

dairy products etc have calcium. Dairy has non-soluble calcium, which

promotes clogging of the arteries ( see www.angioprim.com ). Have

recently been thru a several month course of cleaning arteries via

chelation, as opposed to to doing surgical arthroscopic unblocking and

the followup statin drugs. Chelation works, slowly, but doesn't bring

big (but risky for the patient) bucks to the hospitals.

Water isn't a particular problem unless it's full of toxic chemicals

like chlorine, florides, etc.. But, distilled water isn't that good

either because it leaches everything out of the system; just be aware of

it and use supplements wisely along with the distilled water.

- Dave

Vee K. wrote:

> hi Dave:

>

> when you say calcium in the water could be a 'problem' fro people with

heart problems, what did you mean by that, and what kind of problem

would that be?

>

> also, did you mean calcium in the 'distilled' water, or in any kind of water?

>

> thanks,

> v.

>

> Dave wrote:

> In commercial desalinization plants for human/commercial use, calcium

> (carbonate?) is added to the water before it's sent out of the plant,

> and the water is still far cleaner and more pure than what we'd normally

> get. Distilled water is Very reactive, and will pull minerals out of

> whatever it's in, our bodies included.. In commercial plants, they found

> very rapidly that distilled water eats up the piping etc it's pumped

> thru (having worked for a company who ran one of these plants!) unless

> it was pH corrected first.. Also, Calcium can be a problem for those

> with heart problems (been there..)

> - Dave

>

> Ringas wrote:

>

>

>> McGuire wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Stay away from distille dwater!!! It is dangerous stuff. The only time it

might be considered is if you are undergoing some sort of very serious detox and

need a rapid solution. Aside from that, drink water that had balanced strace

minerals,

>>>

>>>I drank about agallon and 1/2 of distilled water over a 2 week period and

threw my body off balance so much through the loss of trace minerals, that may

seizure came back. Prior to this, I was seizure free and medicine free!

>>>

>>>I don't know what else to say to get you to stay away from this stuff!

>>>

>>>Angie

>>>

>>

>>There is a way to make distilled water good again, but it would take

>>some work to do it. The main attractive feature of distilled water is

>>its purity, especially from things like fluoride. The problem with

>>distilled water though, is that all the good minerals are also removed,

>> and the grouping of the water molecules is destroyed. You'll find

>>that distilled water seems to go right through you. That's because the

>>kidneys excrete ungrouped water molecules. The way it should work is

>>that we drink grouped water molecules (the more grouped the better),

>>which is biologically active, and after it has gone through the body and

>>performed its functions, it is excreted as ungrouped water molecules.

>>When drinking distilled water, it is already ungrouped, so it just goes

>>right through you.

>>

>>So, how could distilled water be fixed? You could remineralize it by

>>adding something like ConcenTrace, and then freeze it solid to regroup

>>the water molecules, melted ice having the greatest amount of grouped

>>water molecules. This would all be a lot of work, but perhaps

>>worthwhile since fluoride and other toxic materials in regular water can

>>be problematic.

>>

>>Regards,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you drank distilled water and never ingested any minerals for long

periods of time, you could be flushing minerals but if you are

continuing to consume the minerals that you need, I cannot think of any

reason for distilled water to deplete the body. Major source of calcium

in body is bone structure and blood is trading calcium back and forth

with bones on a second by second balance.

Same is true of vitamins. If you never ingest any food that has a

vitamin in it (empty calories like pastas, etc) then you could deplete

your body but you are ingesting vitamins continuously to maintain the

balance.

If the body loses its ability to maintain the balance or if we deprive

it of what it needs to maintain the balance, then a problem can arise.

Otherwise, the balance will be maintained regardless of distilled or

water out of a tap or spring.

It is very difficult today to find a source of pure water unless it is

distilled.

I went to the distilled years ago to get away from fluoride and the rest

of what I saw in large city water mains when they were dug up for repair

and what I have seen in galvanized water pipes in houses when I have

replaced them.

Harvey

Dave wrote:

> Certainly possible, although pure water (distilled) pulls everything

> out, so there's no selectivity. Perhaps there are some chemists online

> who can address this?

>

> As example, what would pull non-soluble calcium (which promotes clogging

> of the arteries) or lead, or mercury out selectively? Soluble calcium

> is good for us, helps build bones etc, but the other version is bad

> news, particularly for those with heart problems.

> -Dave

>

> CB wrote:

>

> > Hi and Dave,

>

[Guest guest]

> Dairy has non-soluble calcium, which

> promotes clogging of the arteries

I disagree that milk calcium is problematic because all of the baby

mammals can use the calcium in milk, the only obligatory food of

mammals; in fact this form is more likely to be close to perfect

because evolution has honed it to be exactly what us mammals need and

in a very bioavailable form that requires little digestion.

I suspect other mechanisms are at fault for some people not being

able to get milk calcium into their cells, such as reduced ability to

make the mineral transporters (aspartic and orotic acid), or

interference by incorrect ionic charges/clouds at the cell membrane

wall.

Here's an excellent couple of articles by Dr. Steve Haltiwanger,

which deal with molecular conditions in bone building and cancer:

http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html

Duncan Crow