Re: Showing Affection/Sondra?

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Thanks everyone for your contributions to this topic.

Melinda, you do indeed seem to know exactly how i'm feeling...I too am happy

knows enought to set limits now (as opposed to acting out aggressively in

this area) She will always say " bye bye " almost the minute someone walks into

her room...unless of course she needs something then she waits for the bye bye

till after she's been served :-) How funny about the cold and being wrapped in a

blanket thing....that sounds so familiar. When gets sick she also will

allow me to hold her, or lean her head on my shoulder and fall asleep. My

husband always knows I am in heaven on those rare occasions and will give me a

special look (even though I am usually bent into some horribly contorted

position and ruining my back- I would not disrupt it for all the pain or money

in the world.)

Carol...it's funny you mention the inability to kiss the booboos and make them

go away. For some reason still believes I hold some magic power when it

comes to this and she will shove her foot in my face so that I can kiss her

stubbed toe. Hey! it works for her. I love your comment about hugging horses

being preferable to hugging boys...Amen!

and - we too get the backward hugs and the top of the head kisses

permitted. But we need to be cautious when offered the backward hug as it

sometimes used to lead to a surprise headbutt. And Debi!!!! bad breath????

Sounds like a logical reason to me. 's hypersensitive to smell so perhaps

my delightful refreshing breath (ha ha) smells like old shoes to her.

re:....it does seem that is now allowing hugs and kisses as part of

a routine. For example for her whole life we have always said prayers before bed

and right after " Amen " comes the kiss. It's just part of the ritual. I also

confess I put a recording of " I love you " on her GoTalk communication device

(just to make my neurotic self happy) so now when she pushes a button for

" juice " or " hot dogs " and then follows it with the " I love you button " she gets

the reward of my immediate attention and I get to pretend it's spontaneous

(rather than a bribe).

Maybe this is bad I don't know. But I figure she has trained me for 18 years

with her funny little demands (the toilet seat must always be up; all doors must

always be open and on and on) that I think I can sneak in a little " I love you "

training. When I say " I love you " to her she always responds " thew " aka " love

you " but she echoes the last word of nearly every request (unless it's something

she doesn't want and then we hear NO big time).

This is how ridiculous I can be....in the middle of the night she always

switches beds with dad and is in the bed next to me, or sometimes when he is

gone alot she will sleep in that bed and in the process of rolling over while

still asleep will actually place an arm or leg over me. I will lay there for two

hours if need be, absolutely dying because I need to pee but unwilling to break

the physical connection with her. I know I know....showing a strong need for

psychotherapy here, spawn of an absent mom and dad and all that. Hey somebody's

got to support the antidepressant industry LOL.

Sherry, so happy to have rediscovered this group

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smells make of me sick much so to especially heavy coffee

drinkers. it makesof me think smelling a baby diaper instead. I

toalso not like of purfumes and womans things because it is of too

strong for me much of the time and or smokers make of me want to gag

and be sick. so I to avoid of the social hugs most of the time but if

asked will toelrate to give one but not really have an internal feel

of emotional feelings to a hug.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , cathylynn2

wrote:

>

> My daughter does the exact same thing, but only with men

(including

> Dad and Grandpa) and unfamiliar women. Everyone else gets bear

hugs

> all day long. At school she is the only girl in her autism

classroom

> and she hugs these boys constantly, and also her teachers and

aides.

> Some of the kids don't like to be touched so her teachers have

told

> her to give high fives instead. She does the " backwards " thing

with

> kisses, too. I am the only one she lets kiss her face. With

> everyone else she bends over and gives them the top of her head,

even

> her Dad, who has a beard and she can't stand facial hair.

>

>

>

>

>

> > My daughter LOVES hugs, but only with Mom and dad. For anyone

else

> > she

> > immediately turns her back on them, and " backs in " to the hug.

Our

> > family

> > is used to it, and we call them 's backwards hugs.

> >

> >

> >

>

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=I will lay there for two hours if need be, absolutely dying because I

need to pee but unwilling to break the physical connection with her. I

know I know....showing a strong need for psychotherapy here, spawn of

an absent mom and dad and all that. Hey somebody's got to support the

antidepressant industry LOL.

> Sherry, so happy to have rediscovered this group

Sherry not of need of mental health just in need to be as all moms want

to be close to their childrens in any fashions. I to love of it when

the grand baby of me lays her head on my chest and goes to sleep. it is

of the same feel not want to move to lose of that feel of the baby

smells and soft skin and comfort of her to lay there. ther eis no need

of intentions from her to me at all as she is of just the sweet baby

who wants close to me is all and for you the same is to be you

daughtermuch enjoyes of this time to be of close to you or she would

not seek out you bed to be near you. it is of a comfort and safe to

her. I to wish much so in life had of a love and nurture mom to me but

in life was not given that and still not. but due to the lack if care

and nurture by her I to feel this impacted to me my reactions to womans

and connecting to them and for me to see them as unsafe and

unpredictible in life to me. I to avoid of them unless they are of

from autism communities. then I to have a different level of allowing

self to be among them to a various degree.

Sondra

Sondra

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LOL!! I guess my breath is pretty sweet then!! )

>

>Reply-To: Autism_in_Girls

>To: Autism_in_Girls

>Subject: Re: Showing Affection/Sondra?

>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:09:14 -0000

>

>I often used to do this as a kid for one reason... I could smell

>everyone's bad breath a mile away. If your back is turned, you don't

>have to face the breath.

>

>Debi

>

>

> >

> > My daughter LOVES hugs, but only with Mom and dad. For anyone else she

> > immediately turns her back on them, and " backs in " to the hug. Our

>family

> > is used to it, and we call them 's backwards hugs.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Allie LOVES sleeping with us. Heck, all the girls do. After Allie came

along I would wake up in the middle of the night with Allie laying on

top of the covers between my legs, on one side of me, Craig on

the other, and the cat on my back. That's when I had it and we went

king size, lol. Dinah is a big-time cuddler, I wonder if it's because

I nursed her so long. I have to say, Allie is a great cuddler, I feel

for those of you who don't get that affection, must hurt sometimes.

We've been working on finishing a master suit for Craig and me. Last

weekend we got the carpet in and Allie loved being in there with her

toys and colors. I was moving all our stuff into the closet and we

were tired. Craig said, " Let's have a closet slumber party nap " and

went and got some pillows, Craig pulled the blinds to make it

dark. We were all laying there and Allie suddenly got up and went

downstairs. She came back a few seconds later with a pillow and

blanket and put the pillow under Craig's head and covered him up, then

came back over to me, laid down, and went to sleep. He had been the

only one without a blanket or pillow, he'd never said a word. Of all 3

of the kids, Allie seemed to enjoy that more than anyone. I think she

appreciated that we appreciated her fun spot.

Debi

>

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debi i to think you and the craig are of wonderful parents to play

where Allie is in her development. I too would be to like of the closet

and in one home it was of my favorite3 place to isolate and play

besides under the bed of me. The father of me before he to elft use to

make play houses and tents out of sheets and blankets he ties them up

all over the bedroom and maked it ever so stimmy fun..

He left of the home when I to be of age 7 it caused me great pains in

the life of me to have of him leave and yet was much oblivious to hims

violent rages although seen him as a scary powerful man who could break

of walls. he was though much a playful dad at times but he had that

other way of beign that was to confuse of me.

Sondra

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Our kids still do the tent thing out of blankets over chairs! They are teens.

Plus, Bob bought one of those tents that you throw and walla it opens.

She loves it outside on the carport during the summers. I think she loves the

cold of the concrete under her.

I am so sorry you lost such a wonderful father at a young age, Sondra. You are

such an inspiration to many. And your words bring us all comfort daily on this

list.

Debi, that is so awesome that Allie did that. That is so perceptive of her and

extremely considerate. I am sure that made your Craigs' day.

Shanna

sondra wrote:

debi i to think you and the craig are of wonderful parents to play

where Allie is in her development. I too would be to like of the closet

and in one home it was of my favorite3 place to isolate and play

besides under the bed of me. The father of me before he to elft use to

make play houses and tents out of sheets and blankets he ties them up

all over the bedroom and maked it ever so stimmy fun..

He left of the home when I to be of age 7 it caused me great pains in

the life of me to have of him leave and yet was much oblivious to hims

violent rages although seen him as a scary powerful man who could break

of walls. he was though much a playful dad at times but he had that

other way of beign that was to confuse of me.

Sondra

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shanna yes the father of me left when was of 7 due to divorce and he

now fromwhat i ot understand of spectrum fits ofthe profile of

Aspergers as he travels all over collecting rocks and has many

shelves in the basement all line with those rocks all labeld with

their scientific names and he will sit all day watching

documentaries.

Most of my good memories in life were over him coming to get of us

and take of us to hims moms for the weekend. I to loved of that

grandma much so and she to loved of me much so too. I to loved of her

farm place to play. the cousins of me always camed every weekend too

as their daddy andmom to breaked off too and so they comed every

weekend too. they were not of spectrum and so very typical so they

modeled to me odd play and words thatnot had exposures too before and

so in this learned of some things of their world but not able to put

it into my own world with any success. the grand mother of me also

had always new litters of kittens all feral and then had of elk

hounds [full bread]puppies and I to carried many of them at once into

my arms alays loved of them and the soft and noises they to maked.

she also had much garden and so learned of garden things mildly but

learend of how things grow and loved of all the flowers she to had

and her ability to know which flowers to bring in which birds like

she t ahve of much humming birds but it took me a long time to

discover of them clustering on the porch near the flowers. and fly

butters as I to use to call of them I to use to think they were of

moving flowers and so beautiful but later learned they were of little

critters. Some of the family who to did have exposure to me to say

was of a much beautiful baby girl and others to say of me was much

bad girl so never know but in me wonder if the mothers side was due

to lack of knwojg how to approach me and the fathers side had more

success in knowing how to help me learn and understood of the needs

of me more even though no lable to me back then. I to think approach

has much to do with how we react.

Anyways thanks to say you like of my words here and I to in return

share I to like this list because it is of safe. a few other lists I

to enjoy for a variety of reasons are of this:

me list which is an all ABAers list and i to found much good families

there and enjoy of them too. I to be of had a bully there once but

she is of now silent to me there now. I to be fo one who supports of

ABA if the program meets the childs needs in ways of teaching and

learning and does not degrade or take from the essence of who the

child is to be and there are many good programs out there that do

this. I to also find so many good parents there who do love of thems

kids like here.

Aspires is more of adult like list for relationships and such on

spectrum , it has changed much and has differnt sorts of words there

now and so cant keep up much so dont post as much now but still like

of it much so and found some old timers from the list to be as an

anchor in the life of me because in that list just being a part gave

meexposure to so many new words , views and ways of being that I to

gained in life from it but they also were of gentle to me in teaching

ways and it gave ofme a safe to discover self,

I to be to belong to another list for ASD in girls and it is more

over biomedical issues in realtion to autism and so find some value

to it and some mild connect but it is of often a silent list

I to belong to a list called ABAplusRDI list which is a combined

method of my two favorite approaches to children of spectrum. My most

top of list approach to me is of RDI for many reasons as it taps the

language in ways that I to feelmany with autism need and it is of

extrememly respectful to the developmental stages of where WE are AT

and does not have begin stages of intervention that is beyond our

developmental levels.

I to belong to several local to ohio list, some more biomedical lists

and some more educational lists and places such as those.

I to also belong to an adult woman on spectrum type lists and it can

be of chaty and then silent for many weeksand then when I to check on

it after a silent mode find it has become chatty and so when I to try

to catch up the list goes of silent again LOL.

I to not belong to any ALL spectrumlike lists tried of one in past

and many rejected ofme due tomy syntax issues and so felt outcasted

among my own and so never will be of brave to try another such lists.

But I to ahve of 13 lists and be to enjoy much of themfor various

reasons and as shared it is of my best time to be to feel relating

and connecting to peoples.

I to hope to have of allmy presentations posted to the gray center

web site for those to see where I to be of presenting and speaking

at.

Sondra

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Sondra,

I loved the answers here. Have a lot to digest in your beautiful words.

1st-Loved the " FLY BUTTERS " and that you thought they were flowers! Wow. I

never thought of them that way.

2nd-my , 12 yrs autism, loves animals and loves little babies. I can

relate to you explaining your experiences on the farm. It sounded like you had a

lot of social interaction that may have helped you a lot.

3rd-I was very close to my grandmother. I always said that I wanted to be like

her when I grew up. She was so loving and kind and had " big boobs " which I loved

to get hugged by. She made me feel like I belonged. She always gave to anyone

who was in need and prayed all the time. She was a great cook also. I believe

grandmothers are great influences and sounded like yours at that time helped you

a lot!

4th-I still have a lot to learn about more approaches than what we have done

with . I do agree with you that ABA and other approaches must be tested to

see if that is indeed the way the child is suppose to learn. There are more than

one approach. ABA seems to be what works with ours. She has had a lot of speech,

OT, & ABA over the years. I am not that familiar with RDI. I just heard about it

on here.

5th-How can you read all of these lists???? IT takes me an hour just to catch

up on this one daily. I never heard of some of the ones you mentioned.

6th- What is your book called? Do you have a website? That may catch me up

more on you personally. I think you are fascinating and the fact that you feel

safe and can share gives me and others so much hope here.

7th-I think it is sad when there is not enough grace on lists that allows

people to say how they feel and " agree to disagree " . I hope you understand what

I mean. I have people in my own family that I cannot have a normal conversation

with. Not even about the weather or what I am eating/drinking. Some people just

do not understand that. It is terribly sad that you have been treated badly by

others but maybe by that happening, it has made you a stronger person.

Shanna (mother, wife, friend, advocate, nurse, maid, etc., etc., etc., )

sondra wrote:

shanna yes the father of me left when was of 7 due to divorce and he

now fromwhat i ot understand of spectrum fits ofthe profile of

Aspergers as he travels all over collecting rocks and has many

shelves in the basement all line with those rocks all labeld with

their scientific names and he will sit all day watching

documentaries.

Most of my good memories in life were over him coming to get of us

and take of us to hims moms for the weekend. I to loved of that

grandma much so and she to loved of me much so too. I to loved of her

farm place to play. the cousins of me always camed every weekend too

as their daddy andmom to breaked off too and so they comed every

weekend too. they were not of spectrum and so very typical so they

modeled to me odd play and words thatnot had exposures too before and

so in this learned of some things of their world but not able to put

it into my own world with any success. the grand mother of me also

had always new litters of kittens all feral and then had of elk

hounds [full bread]puppies and I to carried many of them at once into

my arms alays loved of them and the soft and noises they to maked.

she also had much garden and so learned of garden things mildly but

learend of how things grow and loved of all the flowers she to had

and her ability to know which flowers to bring in which birds like

she t ahve of much humming birds but it took me a long time to

discover of them clustering on the porch near the flowers. and fly

butters as I to use to call of them I to use to think they were of

moving flowers and so beautiful but later learned they were of little

critters. Some of the family who to did have exposure to me to say

was of a much beautiful baby girl and others to say of me was much

bad girl so never know but in me wonder if the mothers side was due

to lack of knwojg how to approach me and the fathers side had more

success in knowing how to help me learn and understood of the needs

of me more even though no lable to me back then. I to think approach

has much to do with how we react.

Anyways thanks to say you like of my words here and I to in return

share I to like this list because it is of safe. a few other lists I

to enjoy for a variety of reasons are of this:

me list which is an all ABAers list and i to found much good families

there and enjoy of them too. I to be of had a bully there once but

she is of now silent to me there now. I to be fo one who supports of

ABA if the program meets the childs needs in ways of teaching and

learning and does not degrade or take from the essence of who the

child is to be and there are many good programs out there that do

this. I to also find so many good parents there who do love of thems

kids like here.

Aspires is more of adult like list for relationships and such on

spectrum , it has changed much and has differnt sorts of words there

now and so cant keep up much so dont post as much now but still like

of it much so and found some old timers from the list to be as an

anchor in the life of me because in that list just being a part gave

meexposure to so many new words , views and ways of being that I to

gained in life from it but they also were of gentle to me in teaching

ways and it gave ofme a safe to discover self,

I to be to belong to another list for ASD in girls and it is more

over biomedical issues in realtion to autism and so find some value

to it and some mild connect but it is of often a silent list

I to belong to a list called ABAplusRDI list which is a combined

method of my two favorite approaches to children of spectrum. My most

top of list approach to me is of RDI for many reasons as it taps the

language in ways that I to feelmany with autism need and it is of

extrememly respectful to the developmental stages of where WE are AT

and does not have begin stages of intervention that is beyond our

developmental levels.

I to belong to several local to ohio list, some more biomedical lists

and some more educational lists and places such as those.

I to also belong to an adult woman on spectrum type lists and it can

be of chaty and then silent for many weeksand then when I to check on

it after a silent mode find it has become chatty and so when I to try

to catch up the list goes of silent again LOL.

I to not belong to any ALL spectrumlike lists tried of one in past

and many rejected ofme due tomy syntax issues and so felt outcasted

among my own and so never will be of brave to try another such lists.

But I to ahve of 13 lists and be to enjoy much of themfor various

reasons and as shared it is of my best time to be to feel relating

and connecting to peoples.

I to hope to have of allmy presentations posted to the gray center

web site for those to see where I to be of presenting and speaking

at.

Sondra

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shanna the web list isof this www.thegraycenter.org and the place is

under perspectives or if you do a search on the name of me it will

bring of my work up from various places too. the name of me is of

Sondra I to live in columbus Ohio areas.

the one most respected and connected person in the life of me and if of

the reason I to be where I to be of now is of my Dr. Emilio Amigo who

is of a clinical psychologist I to be to go to him for much of 5 years

now and maked great gains inthe life of me. the group most supportive

of me in my work has been of Carol Gray and her staff at the Gray

center.

sondra

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Beth does the same things with hugs (will only hug Steve and I back) and with

kisses she only gives most people the top of her head.

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I know what you mean. My father died when I was 11. My parents were

getting a divorce when he died. He had very violent episodes, too. I

used to spend a great deal of time in my room, holding my cat, praying

him and my mother wouldn't kill each other. SOmetimes I would have ot

make a break for it and beg the police officer across the street to

help, I was so scared. Of course, the cop didn't do anything, but I

guess he couldn't.

Why do parents carry on this way? I told Craig when we started dating

if we couldn't be calm there was no future. Very, very few times have

we raised our voices at each other. Sure, we get frustrated and angry

with each other, but I refuse for my kids to grow up like that.

Debi

> He left of the home when I to be of age 7 it caused me great pains in

> the life of me to have of him leave and yet was much oblivious to hims

> violent rages although seen him as a scary powerful man who could break

> of walls. he was though much a playful dad at times but he had that

> other way of beign that was to confuse of me.

> Sondra

>

[Guest guest]

the father of me appeared less violent after he to leaved frommy

memory of it all back then he did be to have of hims days though and

did kidnapp of us away from themother.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , " Debi " wrote:

>

> I know what you mean. My father died when I was 11. My parents were

> getting a divorce when he died. He had very violent episodes, too. I

> used to spend a great deal of time in my room, holding my cat,

praying

> him and my mother wouldn't kill each other. SOmetimes I would have

ot

> make a break for it and beg the police officer across the street to

> help, I was so scared. Of course, the cop didn't do anything, but I

> guess he couldn't.

>

> Why do parents carry on this way? I told Craig when we started

dating

> if we couldn't be calm there was no future. Very, very few times

have

> we raised our voices at each other. Sure, we get frustrated and

angry

> with each other, but I refuse for my kids to grow up like that.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> > He left of the home when I to be of age 7 it caused me great

pains in

> > the life of me to have of him leave and yet was much oblivious to

hims

> > violent rages although seen him as a scary powerful man who could

break

> > of walls. he was though much a playful dad at times but he had

that

> > other way of beign that was to confuse of me.

> > Sondra

> >

>

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Sondra! Thank you so much for sending the link. I really am enjoying reading all

about you and a picture to put with a face! You look so young and beautiful. I

have never been to Columbus before. We have an uncle in Dayton, Ohio. I do wish

you well on your speaking engagements. I am sure you bring hope to a lot of

people daily at those and on this list.

Shanna

sondra wrote:

shanna the web list isof this www.thegraycenter.org and the place is

under perspectives or if you do a search on the name of me it will

bring of my work up from various places too. the name of me is of

Sondra I to live in columbus Ohio areas.

the one most respected and connected person in the life of me and if of

the reason I to be where I to be of now is of my Dr. Emilio Amigo who

is of a clinical psychologist I to be to go to him for much of 5 years

now and maked great gains inthe life of me. the group most supportive

of me in my work has been of Carol Gray and her staff at the Gray

center.

sondra

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OMG! Sondra, that must have been very traumatic (being kidnapped). How long were

you away from your mother?

Shanna

sondra wrote:

the father of me appeared less violent after he to leaved frommy

memory of it all back then he did be to have of hims days though and

did kidnapp of us away from themother.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , " Debi " wrote:

>

> I know what you mean. My father died when I was 11. My parents were

> getting a divorce when he died. He had very violent episodes, too. I

> used to spend a great deal of time in my room, holding my cat,

praying

> him and my mother wouldn't kill each other. SOmetimes I would have

ot

> make a break for it and beg the police officer across the street to

> help, I was so scared. Of course, the cop didn't do anything, but I

> guess he couldn't.

>

> Why do parents carry on this way? I told Craig when we started

dating

> if we couldn't be calm there was no future. Very, very few times

have

> we raised our voices at each other. Sure, we get frustrated and

angry

> with each other, but I refuse for my kids to grow up like that.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> > He left of the home when I to be of age 7 it caused me great

pains in

> > the life of me to have of him leave and yet was much oblivious to

hims

> > violent rages although seen him as a scary powerful man who could

break

> > of walls. he was though much a playful dad at times but he had

that

> > other way of beign that was to confuse of me.

> > Sondra

> >

>

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shannon that was of the day i to maked of my DVD in Michigan and so had

of help to get of dressed nice and teh husband to telled me I to looked

great that day too. I to not normally look of this fashion and not like

to dress up into dress like clothings and so was so happy to get out of

them LOL. But many to say I to be of to look younger than the age of

me. I to be fo 44 so not young the kids of me to say I to be of old.

Sondra

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I to lack awareness of the actual time away but know he to taked us to

a lack and left us there why he went to work and would come back in the

evening and we did not have of a cabin or tent or anythings but

blankets and sat of there I was to be of maybe 8 or so. I to remember

being feared of the dark and was of cold but loved eating potato chips

all day. It was of a hard time for the family of me back then. but no

bond to the mother at all eitehr so not had any internal missing of her

but wanted of my routine of things within the small home I to be of

born in, it was of a small 2 bedroom home that was very small the whole

home only had of 4 small rooms. It had no roof only flat ceramic things

for a roof of the home but it was of my most favorite home as a little

child.

it had of my trees and bushes and things I to loved.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

How funny! I am 45. I just wish I had the " fountain of youth " gene that you

inherited! My has an obsession with the fountain of youth. She must have

gotten it from the movie, Road to Eldorado. She really believes it exists and

has asked us quite a number of times to go and find it for her. She does not

want to age. She is 12 but looks like a five year old in her face. Very baby

faced and smooth. I wish someone would find that thing so she would stop asking

us! lol

Shanna

sondra wrote:

shannon that was of the day i to maked of my DVD in Michigan and so

had

of help to get of dressed nice and teh husband to telled me I to looked

great that day too. I to not normally look of this fashion and not like

to dress up into dress like clothings and so was so happy to get out of

them LOL. But many to say I to be of to look younger than the age of

me. I to be fo 44 so not young the kids of me to say I to be of old.

Sondra

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Sondra, Are you saying that you were homeless at one time? I can totally relate

to having a favorite home and even though it was not fancy or modern things,

being your favorite home.

I love trees & flowers and always have.

Shanna

sondra wrote:

I to lack awareness of the actual time away but know he to taked us to

a lack and left us there why he went to work and would come back in the

evening and we did not have of a cabin or tent or anythings but

blankets and sat of there I was to be of maybe 8 or so. I to remember

being feared of the dark and was of cold but loved eating potato chips

all day. It was of a hard time for the family of me back then. but no

bond to the mother at all eitehr so not had any internal missing of her

but wanted of my routine of things within the small home I to be of

born in, it was of a small 2 bedroom home that was very small the whole

home only had of 4 small rooms. It had no roof only flat ceramic things

for a roof of the home but it was of my most favorite home as a little

child.

it had of my trees and bushes and things I to loved.

Sondra

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The fountain of youth would be lovely. I feel like I have aged 20 years in the

past 3. Is anyone else tired all the time. I am just so tired. My daughter

always tells me that she is never having babies and she is never moving out.

She may have a husband she says, but they will live with me. How lovely.

Tonight she told me that she hates when I go to work. (2 days a week) because

when I am not home she feels disappointed. She was so proud of herself for

coming up with a name for what she was feeling. She expected me to say wow

that's great I guess I'll quit my job then. I told her I was proud of her for

being able to know what she was feeling and thanked her for sharing it with me.

I also told her I am going to work tomorrow. Well, she was so thoroughly

disgusted with me. She couldn't believe I would have the nerve to do something

that doesn't please her. I think she really thinks she is the queen sometimes.

Remember now, she is very high functioning so sometimes I think she is playing

me. The trick is to know which times she is playing me and which times she is

just having a difficult time with life. I just love her little face though.

Sometimes I watch her sleep and I just can't help but touch her because I don't

get to do that much when she is awake. There is just such an innocence to her

that my other children don't have or maybe they had when they were younger.

OK, I am off to bed because Yes I am going to work tomorrow. (I work at a day

care center and she doesn't like me touching babies because they are yucky!)

Terri

Re: Re: Showing Affection/Sondra?

How funny! I am 45. I just wish I had the " fountain of youth " gene that you

inherited! My has an obsession with the fountain of youth. She must have

gotten it from the movie, Road to Eldorado. She really believes it exists and

has asked us quite a number of times to go and find it for her. She does not

want to age. She is 12 but looks like a five year old in her face. Very baby

faced and smooth. I wish someone would find that thing so she would stop asking

us! lol

Shanna

sondra wrote:

shannon that was of the day i to maked of my DVD in Michigan and so had

of help to get of dressed nice and teh husband to telled me I to looked

great that day too. I to not normally look of this fashion and not like

to dress up into dress like clothings and so was so happy to get out of

them LOL. But many to say I to be of to look younger than the age of

me. I to be fo 44 so not young the kids of me to say I to be of old.

Sondra

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[Guest guest]

I could sleep any time anywhere! I have not gotten more than 3 hours

of sleep per night for the past 7 years, usually quite broken sleep,

too. Just comes with the territory here. To counteract this, I eat

extremely well, meditate, do yoga and pilates and supplement

diligently. The buck stops here. I have no help, so I need to be

healthy and immortal.

> The fountain of youth would be lovely. I feel like I have aged 20

> years in the past 3. Is anyone else tired all the time. I am just

> so tired.

[Guest guest]

any suggestions on immune building supplements or such. I spend 3/4 of the year

sick. I got a really bad cold and sinus infection in September, lasted until

December and now I am sick again. It is like I don't have an immune system that

works properly. I would love suggestions.

Terri

Re: Re: Showing Affection/Sondra?

I could sleep any time anywhere! I have not gotten more than 3 hours

of sleep per night for the past 7 years, usually quite broken sleep,

too. Just comes with the territory here. To counteract this, I eat

extremely well, meditate, do yoga and pilates and supplement

diligently. The buck stops here. I have no help, so I need to be

healthy and immortal.

> The fountain of youth would be lovely. I feel like I have aged 20

> years in the past 3. Is anyone else tired all the time. I am just

> so tired.

[Guest guest]

Pnce de leon did be to search and cant remember if he found of it or

not but he did be to search for it and the tunny is in family tree

lines my Dr. Amigo was of directly realted to him and he is of 47 and

looks much young too so I to wonder if him family found it but does

not share of it to all? LOL. but many to say of htat to me when was

of 19 looked of 10-12.

Sondra

In Autism_in_Girls , Shanna Arnold

wrote:

>

> How funny! I am 45. I just wish I had the " fountain of youth " gene

that you inherited! My has an obsession with the fountain of

youth. She must have gotten it from the movie, Road to Eldorado. She

really believes it exists and has asked us quite a number of times to

go and find it for her. She does not want to age. She is 12 but looks

like a five year old in her face. Very baby faced and smooth. I wish

someone would find that thing so she would stop asking us! lol

> Shanna

>

>

> sondra wrote:

> shannon that was of the day i to maked of my DVD in

Michigan and so had

> of help to get of dressed nice and teh husband to telled me I to

looked

> great that day too. I to not normally look of this fashion and not

like

> to dress up into dress like clothings and so was so happy to get

out of

> them LOL. But many to say I to be of to look younger than the age

of

> me. I to be fo 44 so not young the kids of me to say I to be of old.

>

> Sondra

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

shanna the family of me was of not homeless but did move 17 times in 22

years so always moving .the step father of me did of that because he to

be to not liked of the school calling over my behaviors and I to get

into much torubles to that and soon boxes every where to move again.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Terri,

loves little babies! She is the opposite of that. She will obsess to

the point of being in public, we have to have the " eagle eye " out in case there

are any approaching and prepare accordingly. She has actually asked us for a

" little brother " . LOL

She also seems like she doesn't care if we are around some days but when one

of us leaves for the day, she obsesses about that one. Either my husband, my

kids or me. I think it is an OCD trait in . WE can tell her 10 times that

they are at work or on a trip but that does not seem to stop the obsessing.

Shanna

Theresa wrote:

The fountain of youth would be lovely. I feel like I have aged 20

years in the past 3. Is anyone else tired all the time. I am just so tired. My

daughter always tells me that she is never having babies and she is never moving

out. She may have a husband she says, but they will live with me. How lovely.

Tonight she told me that she hates when I go to work. (2 days a week) because

when I am not home she feels disappointed. She was so proud of herself for

coming up with a name for what she was feeling. She expected me to say wow

that's great I guess I'll quit my job then. I told her I was proud of her for

being able to know what she was feeling and thanked her for sharing it with me.

I also told her I am going to work tomorrow. Well, she was so thoroughly

disgusted with me. She couldn't believe I would have the nerve to do something

that doesn't please her. I think she really thinks she is the queen sometimes.

Remember now, she is very high functioning so sometimes I

think she is playing me. The trick is to know which times she is playing me and

which times she is just having a difficult time with life. I just love her

little face though. Sometimes I watch her sleep and I just can't help but touch

her because I don't get to do that much when she is awake. There is just such an

innocence to her that my other children don't have or maybe they had when they

were younger.

OK, I am off to bed because Yes I am going to work tomorrow. (I work at a day

care center and she doesn't like me touching babies because they are yucky!)

Terri

Re: Re: Showing Affection/Sondra?

How funny! I am 45. I just wish I had the " fountain of youth " gene that you

inherited! My has an obsession with the fountain of youth. She must have

gotten it from the movie, Road to Eldorado. She really believes it exists and

has asked us quite a number of times to go and find it for her. She does not

want to age. She is 12 but looks like a five year old in her face. Very baby

faced and smooth. I wish someone would find that thing so she would stop asking

us! lol

Shanna

sondra wrote:

shannon that was of the day i to maked of my DVD in Michigan and so had

of help to get of dressed nice and teh husband to telled me I to looked

great that day too. I to not normally look of this fashion and not like

to dress up into dress like clothings and so was so happy to get out of

them LOL. But many to say I to be of to look younger than the age of

me. I to be fo 44 so not young the kids of me to say I to be of old.

Sondra

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