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mary,

We are both Gluten free and Dairy free (not completely Casein Free) and we

are going to soy free route little by little.

We noticed the biggest change with the gluten. Jake has always been dairy

free because he has some issues at birth. we were always on soy products

until recently. We just started switching to Almond milk and a few less soy

products mostly because my husband is having soy issues. Jake has not

seemed to care. We notice fewer agry outburst with being gluten free. Less

stimming and aimlessly in his own world. He does still have his moments.

he did start speaking words shortly after starting the diet but who knows if

that is just timing. I dont attribute everything to the diet. He seems

happier without the guten so we have stuck to it.

He had a teacher who was not on board when we first started. I kept

noticing that each day he would come home and be all out of sorts. I kept

asking her if she was giving him anything other than what I sent in. She

said no. Well, he comes home and is so unhappy and moody and angry. I

didn't understand and just knew he was getting something.

Later, I learned that she was using gold fish as rewards! She said well its

jut a few! I said absolutely NO! Nothing! If I dont give it to you, then

you can't give it to him! A few weeks later she called and apologized to

me. She totally saw the difference in his behaviors once SHE stopped giving

him the goldfish. She said " I didn't believe that diet could make a

difference, but you made a believer out of me. " I never had to worry after

that. Ever she would say to me later, " do you think he could have eaten

some gluten, or do you think such and such could have gluten in it? " when he

was not acting " normal " for Jake. It was a great moment. Validation! We

all need that sometimes, especially from the naysayers.

Holly

Oh, and I personally do NOT think it works for everyone. You have to give

it your best shot. Some people try it and see no difference. Some people

try it half way and see no difference because their kids are still getting

gluten in hidden thing. It is in just about everything. You have to start

small. It gets worse before it gets better. If your child has a gluten

issue, it is like taking them off a drug. They go through a kind of detox.

Depending on how bad it is, their behaviors can get crazy. Many give up

because they can't take it. We started small. Replacing things like

pretzels, crackers, they things he liked and would tolerate. Then as he got

used to the taste of those, we started replacing other things. It took

time. We did NOT do it all at once. We would have failed. I knew that

about myslef. Our entire family went gluten free. I also knew that about

myself. Cross contamination is just as bad as eating gluten for anyone who

is really sensitive. Do your research. It is truly a personal decision to

try or not try. It worked for us. That's all I can say. If you need help

or have questions, I will be happy to help. No pressure! LOL!

Holly

Re: more autistic?

>I think it is possible that our kids go through periods where their

>behaviors worsen for no apparent reason sometimes. I have found we go in

>cycles. He gets better for a few months and then maybe gets worse.

>Sometimes it is he is sick or change of meds or lack of sleep. I have a

>question anyone here use the gluten free diet and really feel that things

>got better? Anyone try it and found no change I am just curious. We tied

>it 8 years ago but stopped did not see a real difference but now it is

>easier with all the gluten free choices. Just curious:)

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> Zahn

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>> Is it possible to become MORE autistic?

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Research has shown the gfcf diet works for only 91%. we unknowingly had gluten

infractions before we knew all the sneaky ways manufacturers include gluten and

casein. Now, we are abreast of the terminology in a big way. For years, we

thought Rice Krispies were GF. Nope, the malt flavoring has gluten. Once

removed, because he ate it every morning, much changed.

For us, we gained intelligible speech within a couple of days with the removal

of casein. Most people remove the casein first because it leaves the body faster

than gluten and they see results faster.

For us, gluten caused the GI issues and casein caused the neurological issues.

We have become pros at gfcf nutrition.

After the first two months it really is not that hard but does have to be 100%.

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is gluten or casein disquised as any other names in food?

Zahn

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> Research has shown the gfcf diet works for only 91%. we unknowingly had gluten

infractions before we knew all the sneaky ways manufacturers include gluten and

casein. Now, we are abreast of the terminology in a big way. For years, we

thought Rice Krispies were GF. Nope, the malt flavoring has gluten. Once

removed, because he ate it every morning, much changed.

> For us, we gained intelligible speech within a couple of days with the removal

of casein. Most people remove the casein first because it leaves the body faster

than gluten and they see results faster.

> For us, gluten caused the GI issues and casein caused the neurological issues.

> We have become pros at gfcf nutrition.

> After the first two months it really is not that hard but does have to be

100%.

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> > >> Is it possible to become MORE autistic?

> > >> mom to DS-ASD 8 years old

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, there are a lot of disguises. When I first started I bought the book

Gluten Free for Dummies. It helped me in simplistic form. Some times the

web sites are so overwhelming with all their terminology and they also talk

about dyes and artficial sweetneres. I just needed to do things one step at

a time. There are times I find a new word and it just makes me so mad! It

really does pay to start being more " if it doesn't come straight out of the

grown " type person. " We do as much organic as possible (not easy here in

Idaho), and we that goes for our meats as well.

Holly

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> is gluten or casein disquised as any other names in food?

> Zahn

> mtzahn@...

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>> Research has shown the gfcf diet works for only 91%. we unknowingly had

>> gluten infractions before we knew all the sneaky ways manufacturers

>> include gluten and casein. Now, we are abreast of the terminology in a

>> big way. For years, we thought Rice Krispies were GF. Nope, the malt

>> flavoring has gluten. Once removed, because he ate it every morning, much

>> changed.

>> For us, we gained intelligible speech within a couple of days with the

>> removal of casein. Most people remove the casein first because it leaves

>> the body faster than gluten and they see results faster.

>> For us, gluten caused the GI issues and casein caused the neurological

>> issues.

>> We have become pros at gfcf nutrition.

>> After the first two months it really is not that hard but does have to be

>> 100%.

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>> > >> Is it possible to become MORE autistic?

>> > >> mom to DS-ASD 8 years old

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YES! I am so glad you asked that question. :)

No dairy, no casein, no products containing either. Read *all* labels each time

you purchase (manufacturers change proprietary ingredients all the time),avoid

deli meats (we use Hormel All Naturals -lactic acid is NOT from milk in that

product-WalMart has it cheaper).

For casein, lookout for words such as lactose-free, as this does NOT mean milk

protein (casein) free. Other words to look for and avoid on labels (boxes,

meats, frozen items, and cans)are the following:

whey, whey solids, curds, milk and all words containing the word milk(including

dry milk and evaporated milk), milk solids, non-fat milk, low fat milk fat,

nougat, non-dairy (believe it or not, these products-like non-dairy creamer and

frozen non-dairy whipcream- have milk in them!), buttermilk solids, cream, half

& half, butter, milk chocolate, casein, caseinate, calcium caseinate, sodium

caseinate, magnesium caseinate, all other words with caseinate attached to them,

casein hydrosylate, lactalbumin & lactalbumin phosphate, lactoglobulin, lactose,

junket, custard, malt, malted milk, ghee, artifical butter flavor,butter ,

butter fat,butter oil, cheese, condensed milk, cottage cheese, goat & *ALL*

other mammal milks,lactic acid starter culture (check with manufacturer, may

contain milk), lactoferrin,lactulose, naturlose & tagatose(sugars derived from

whey), sodium lactylate (might contain casein, check with manufacturer or when

in doubt, don't), and any words containing *cream*.

A *D* on a Kosher label next to a *K* or *U* indicates the presence of milk

protein.

Watch out for hotdogs, yogurts,puddings, butters (we use Earth Balance Butter

Substitute), and flavorings (caramel coloring, brown sugar flavoring, bavarian

cream flavoring,coconut cream flavoring, and natural chcolate flavoring).

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For gluten, you can download/print a brochure at the following link, BUT

remember this is only for gluten free.You will have to disregard the *dairy*

portions. (Just so you know). The information is very hepful and what is handed

out at GI offices:

http://www.cdhnf.org/user-assets/documents/pdf/GlutenFreeDietGuideWeb.pdf

Hope this helps,

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As long as Sue mentioned D on Kosher products for those looking for dairy

free products, if you look for Kosher products labeled OU or O with a U

inside or those with a K for Kosher AND the letter P or the word PARVE -

this indicates NO DAIRY of any kind.

Of course you then need to look for dyes, chemicals and other unhealthy

things........

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:23 PM, agirlnamedsuess21 <

agirlnamedsuess@...> wrote:

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> YES! I am so glad you asked that question. :)

> No dairy, no casein, no products containing either. Read *all* labels each

> time you purchase (manufacturers change proprietary ingredients all the

> time),avoid deli meats (we use Hormel All Naturals -lactic acid is NOT from

> milk in that product-WalMart has it cheaper).

> For casein, lookout for words such as lactose-free, as this does NOT mean

> milk protein (casein) free. Other words to look for and avoid on labels

> (boxes, meats, frozen items, and cans)are the following:

> whey, whey solids, curds, milk and all words containing the word

> milk(including dry milk and evaporated milk), milk solids, non-fat milk, low

> fat milk fat, nougat, non-dairy (believe it or not, these products-like

> non-dairy creamer and frozen non-dairy whipcream- have milk in them!),

> buttermilk solids, cream, half & half, butter, milk chocolate, casein,

> caseinate, calcium caseinate, sodium caseinate, magnesium caseinate, all

> other words with caseinate attached to them, casein hydrosylate, lactalbumin

> & lactalbumin phosphate, lactoglobulin, lactose, junket, custard, malt,

> malted milk, ghee, artifical butter flavor,butter , butter fat,butter oil,

> cheese, condensed milk, cottage cheese, goat & *ALL* other mammal

> milks,lactic acid starter culture (check with manufacturer, may contain

> milk), lactoferrin,lactulose, naturlose & tagatose(sugars derived from

> whey), sodium lactylate (might contain casein, check with manufacturer or

> when in doubt, don't), and any words containing *cream*.

> A *D* on a Kosher label next to a *K* or *U* indicates the presence of milk

> protein.

> Watch out for hotdogs, yogurts,puddings, butters (we use Earth Balance

> Butter Substitute), and flavorings (caramel coloring, brown sugar flavoring,

> bavarian cream flavoring,coconut cream flavoring, and natural chcolate

> flavoring).

> *****

> For gluten, you can download/print a brochure at the following link, BUT

> remember this is only for gluten free.You will have to disregard the *dairy*

> portions. (Just so you know). The information is very hepful and what is

> handed out at GI offices:

> http://www.cdhnf.org/user-assets/documents/pdf/GlutenFreeDietGuideWeb.pdf

>

> Hope this helps,

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