Steroid study

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,I'm kind of with you on the liver thing, the oral agents pose unique risks.Still, on the lipid stuff, I think over all, this is a concern.  "Male sex" is an independent risk for coronary vascular disease, and native testosterone is probably the culprit.   I doubt that various anabolic steroid preparations are significantly different in terms of possible cardiovascular problems, and certainly,  as you suggest, more studies are needed.Many, like you, are more than capable of following your individual results, and making appropriate life style adjustments.  A "negative" study may still promote health, by encouraging men to follow their blood lipid, and PSA, carefully when on anabolics.I went back on a month ago, after two years off.  We'll see.On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:45 PM, PozHealth wrote:Grunfeld  says the adverse effects of the steroids were clear-cut within the  first 12  weeks. "HDL plummets. LDL goes up. This predisposes people to an  increased  risk of heart attack. Furthermore, we found grade III and grade IV  liver  toxicity in some men, which means a very significant risk of serious liver   damage." The men's testosterone levels were also depressed. These effects  were  not seen in men taking placebo, according to Grunfeld. Barrowpozbod@...