Annette

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Adderall was a nightmare with Maddie too. I only had her on it for three

days, but it was so awful, I stopped immediately. Meanwhile, it is the

wonder drug for my son with adhd.

Donna

Adderall helps , 19 ds and other issues. We also have the butt touching

issue off and on. Much of it depends on how the behavior is addressed.

Unfortunately some people think that giving a kid a lecture on inappropriate

behavior is going to discourage the behavior. Not for . He needs a lack of

reaction combined with intolerance for the behavior.

Karyn

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Adderall was a nightmare with Maddie too.   I only had her on it for three

days, but it was so awful, I stopped immediately.    Meanwhile, it is the

wonder drug for my son with adhd.

Donna

Annette

<<This would be many backsteps in his social and academic

education. We don't want him to become part of the juvenile justice

system.>>

Hi, Everyone....Annette....welcome to the group. My son is 20 y/o with the

DS/Autism/OCD dx. One of the drugs that is on, the Adderall, made my

kid schizo. Many of us have found that the stimulant drugs do the opposite

for our kids. You are questioning whether he has autism.....is he also DS? If

so, I don't think you have to worry about him being put in the JJS. It

sounds like he needs an IEP update and behavioral program.

Take care, Everyone.

Margaret

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Adderall was good for only one thing for Elie - he lost 20 lbs while on it -

and for him this was great. Didn't affect behavior however.

As to butt touching. We did a social story - actually a few social stories

which were read to him with words and PECS. We shake hands and give high

fives. Butts are not for touching :`(

Apples are for touching and eating. But butts are not for touching! :~(

And so on - over and over. Eventually it worked - but approval is a big

need of Elie's. We were about to go to his big contingency - Jr Frosty.

But he finally got it and could tell other kids - Butts are not for

touching.

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> Adderall was a nightmare with Maddie too. I only had her on it for three

> days, but it was so awful, I stopped immediately. Meanwhile, it is the

> wonder drug for my son with adhd.

> Donna

>

> Adderall helps , 19 ds and other issues. We also have the butt

> touching

> issue off and on. Much of it depends on how the behavior is addressed.

> Unfortunately some people think that giving a kid a lecture on

> inappropriate

> behavior is going to discourage the behavior. Not for . He needs a

> lack of

> reaction combined with intolerance for the behavior.

>

> Karyn

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Hi Margaret, thanks for your 2cents. Later in the day, after the

steam faded, I realized that I acted unfairly. I got a call late in

the school day from the psych that she put a copy of his BIP in his

backpack and also that he was having some issues. She didn't get

specific, was within earshot, but he was making threatening

remarks. She didn't call me later to fill me in on what was going on

so I guess I will find out later. I called today and got an

appointment tomorrow with a pedi. neurol. Someone had cancelled - I

hope this is a prayer being answered, not sure if he will actually

get EEG or whatever tomorrow. I am not sending him to school, we will

just chill and go out for breakfast before appointment. He was very

oppositional and defiant about not getting on the bus and going to

school, I hope he is better in the morning. At least, for the most

part our evening was not too stressful. Thanks for your comment. I

appreciate this group and all the info - I will also be checking

posts from a while back also. Thanks, Annette

>

> << So I followed through with what I told him I would do. I went

to his room

> and got the monkeys

> and put the whole game in the trash. He is smart enough to know

that if the

> game is still there or even goes away for a while and appears,

that I did not

> do what I said I was going to do. >>

>

> Hi, Annette.....I think you are wrong on this. It is not a matter

of how

> smart your kid is or whether he is lying. If your kid has Autism,

too, there

> may be NO control over what he wants to do and what you tell him

to do. I

> sincerely doubt your son is purposely trying to lie and make you

angry. I am

> not saying that there shouldn't be consequences, but to throw away

a game that

> your child obviously enjoys is a bit harsh in my thinking. There

are many

> down sides to the autism behaviors and one is

defiance......through no fault of

> your son. Just my two cents worth.

>

> Take care, Everyone.

> Margaret

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Hi Annette,

I am trying not to compare because all kids are different, however, if something

isn't right at school Zeb will refuse to go and rant and rant. You really need

to ask lots of questions and read between the lines. Zeb's school is not the

most honest when issues arise and have escalated situations that could have been

diffused with ease. I just get red flags when I read this post. You call it

oppositional, I call it as asking for help in an uncomfortable situation.

Charlyne

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Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:01 AM

Hi Margaret, thanks for your 2cents. Later in the day, after the

steam faded, I realized that I acted unfairly. I got a call late in

the school day from the psych that she put a copy of his BIP in his

backpack and also that he was having some issues. She didn't get

specific, was within earshot, but he was making threatening

remarks. She didn't call me later to fill me in on what was going on

so I guess I will find out later. I called today and got an

appointment tomorrow with a pedi. neurol. Someone had cancelled - I

hope this is a prayer being answered, not sure if he will actually

get EEG or whatever tomorrow. I am not sending him to school, we will

just chill and go out for breakfast before appointment. He was very

oppositional and defiant about not getting on the bus and going to

school, I hope he is better in the morning. At least, for the most

part our evening was not too stressful. Thanks for your comment. I

appreciate this group and all the info - I will also be checking

posts from a while back also. Thanks, Annette

>

> << So I followed through with what I told him I would do. I went

to his room

> and got the monkeys

> and put the whole game in the trash. He is smart enough to know

that if the

> game is still there or even goes away for a while and appears,

that I did not

> do what I said I was going to do. >>

>

> Hi, Annette..... I think you are wrong on this. It is not a matter

of how

> smart your kid is or whether he is lying. If your kid has Autism,

too, there

> may be NO control over what he wants to do and what you tell him

to do. I

> sincerely doubt your son is purposely trying to lie and make you

angry. I am

> not saying that there shouldn't be consequences, but to throw away

a game that

> your child obviously enjoys is a bit harsh in my thinking. There

are many

> down sides to the autism behaviors and one is

defiance.... ..through no fault of

> your son. Just my two cents worth.

>

> Take care, Everyone.

> Margaret

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<<He was very oppositional and defiant about not getting on the bus and

going to

school, I hope he is better in the morning. >>

Hi, Everyone....Annette....I was only trying to give you info that I

received from a child psych back when Gareth was between the ages of 6-10.

Like

, he had the ODD label, too, and I was going nuts with his behaviors.

After I was told that he had NO control over them, it was when I took the step

back and realized that * I * had to control my own behaviors/reactions since I

was the one who wasn't autistic. I thank God for the Risperdal that turned

our lives around.....I am only sorry that it doesn't work for all kids. Like

Charlyne said, why doesn't he want to go to school? We were in a horrible

district at one point and the lies that came from them broke my heart when I

realized I was punishing Gareth (at home) for something he didn't do (or they

over exaggerated the situation).

Take care, Everyone.

Margaret

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