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hello.. im from the Philippines and I want to get my son started on Chelation.

Can you refer a doctor who can get us started on the process because I really

want to or If there's no doctor who is willing to do that will It be wise to

wait til I migrate to the US which is in 2 or 3 years. <BR>

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Any tips on how to get started with the process..

Leirs (Manila) & Philbert (US)- 07.15.00

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Read the FAQs of this list. If the individual to be chelated has any mercury

amalgam dental fillings those need to be removed according to proper protocol by

a mercury-free dentist before beginning chelation.

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> Have there been cases where the child was chelated for 2 years and

has still not improved..

My son needed much more than just chelation to show major improvement.

He also needed anti-virals and several supplements.

Dana

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Hi, -Clare -

Love it! Isn't it wonderful when the words come out - you just are so

happy, excited, proud of our kids! Josh doest the " fart " thing, too, only when

he does it, we look at him and says " Clyde-o farted! " (the dog) or " Mommy

farted " then finally laughingly fesses up to being the one to pass the gas.

What a jokester!

Sherry

mcdalzell@... wrote:

Hi to All, With all the hard work our son does to speak sometimes the words

just flow. Last night I said I love you as I tucked him in. He said " love

you too mommy " now I know I may not hear those words for a long time but I

hold them close in my heart:) Just thought I would share. Now for the

humor side of life for us. We were all seated down at the dinner table and we

heard a gassy sounding noise. Lee says as clear as a bell Who farted?! My

husband and I looked at each other and said did he say what we think he just

said? As our older son said not me! I tell you never a dull moment here.

This too I hold close to my heart. LOL Wishing everyone a great week.

-Clare

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You need a DAN Dr.!!!

[ ] hi

My name is sue and I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter named Cameren she

only has about 12 words so far and looking for other mothers who have

been through this process, we are already enrolled in our early on

program here in Michigan...looking for support and tips

thanks

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Hi Sue and welcome!

I'm not sure who talltex99 is -but doesn't look like they read your

post that well (since you say in the first sentence your name is

Sue)

If your child is a two and a half year old late talker with 12

words -just want to let you know that the first step is not a DAN

doctor, or any doctor other than your child's pediatrician! The

first step if not done yet is a thorough speech and hearing

evaluation. What are the 12 words your child can say -and does he

or she ever attempt to string any words together?

Your child is also entitled by Federal Law (if you live in the US)

to Early Intervention through your state -up till the age of three,

and through your town's school from three up. Is your child in

Early Intervention, and has your child been diagnosed with any

disorder of speech or do they suspect it may be a simple delay?

If it ends up that your child has just a simple delay in speech, the

sessions of speech therapy will be fun and stimulating for your

child and may even encourage the speech to come in sooner -if it

ends up the reason for the delay is an impairment of speech vs. a

simple delay -the Early Intervention you can provide now is

priceless!

Private exams recommended after a speech and hearing could be an OT

(occupational therapy) exam, and 'then' if something like

apraxia is suspected -a visit with a neuroMD (pediatric neurologist

or developmental pediatrician)

There are many great parents and medical, speech and education

professionals in this group -and even though many of them lurk -hope

some of them email you to welcome you and provide you with new

member support and advice!

Have you read The Late Talker?

Oh -and PS -if you decide to see a DAN doctor -please know not all

are medical doctors and some are not doctors at all. If I ever took

Tanner to a DAN doc, I would make sure they were a medical doctor. In our large

in person

support group half felt it was a waste of money. (Now that I

think of it -perhaps because only half saw DAN MDs and the other saw

DAN " Dr.s " ?)

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> My name is sue and I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter named Cameren she

> only has about 12 words so far and looking for other mothers who have

> been through this process, we are already enrolled in our early on

> program here in Michigan...looking for support and tips

>

> thanks

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HI,

My Thank you for your response I guess he came up with from

our email its my husbands name...We have had Cameren in an ISD program

here in michigan she goes to class an hour a week and then the teacher

comes to the house for a hour a week...I took Cami to the ped. nero

this week at the U of M...she did some blood and wrote a script for

speech theapy .Cami also has low muscle tone but she has great fine

motor and gross motor skills the Isd did some test on rated her at

about a 15 mth level in Jan her speech was in 5th precentile...The

words she has now are like uh oh and dora hank you ...but very few I

am having her tested Monday for hearing....I am unsure what a DAN dr

is ...Cami is my 4th child and all my other talked early so needless

to say this has been a changle for us...Thank you for your reply any

help would great

Sue

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Below is a link that describes the DAN protocol. It will take an hour to

complete. Not all children on this list have needed a DAN protocol, but

those that have seeked the biochemical procedures, like myself, have seen my

child come out of the " fog " .

http://www.talkautism.org/video/df/index.asp?id=3#

Maureen McDonnell is a registered nurse, nutritionist who helped my son

immensely.

all the best,

Joanne

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>> My name is sue and I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter named Cameren she

>> only has about 12 words so far and looking for other mothers who have

>> been through this process, we are already enrolled in our early on

>> program here in Michigan...looking for support and tips

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>> thanks

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Welcome, Pinar !

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" When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know

peace. "

-- Jimi Hendrix

( ) Hi

Hi,I am the mother of 5 years old sweet boy, Mehmet Selman, who has Autism.

I think I'll learn so many thinks from you.

Thanks.

Pinar.

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Pinar Bahceci <pinar_bahceci@...> wrote:

Hi,I am the mother of 5 years old sweet boy, Mehmet Selman, who has Autism. I

think I'll learn so many thinks from you.

Thanks.

Pinar.

Pinar,

WELCOME to our list! Feel free to jump in anytime you like!

Roxanna

Look alive. Here comes a buzzard.

-- Pogo

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I wish I could help you. Best of luck. Terryfowlereagles2004 <fowlereagles2004@...> wrote:

I have a ? does anyone else have friends that get scared of getting HCV? If so what do you do?__________________________________________________

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People are generally not well-informed about Hep C, and therefore are

scared of it.

For the most part, the better informed they become, the less

apprehensive they will be.

It's just whether or not they 'want' to take the time to find out, is

all.....

> I have a ? does anyone else have friends that get scared of getting

> HCV? If so what do you do?

[Guest guest]

Those who didn't understand after I gave them all the

info, are no longer around.

Sharon

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wrote:

> I have a ? does anyone else have friends that get

> scared of getting

> HCV? If so what do you do?

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Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:

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Kick 'em to the curb.

My wife hasn't caught my hep-c in over 32 years. Almost all cases are blood to blood contact. A good friend passed away a few months ago. She got it from a blood transfusion many, many years ago. She was 77.

HCV is not easily transmitted. That is not to say it is totally safe, but as we all know, casual contact (kissing, etc.) will *not* pass it and it would appear that normal sex does not either.

If someone is that hung up over HCV, it would spare your nerves to simply forget that person until that individual comes around to his/her senses.

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

[ ] hi

I have a ? does anyone else have friends that get scared of getting HCV? If so what do you do?

[Guest guest]

> I have a ? does anyone else have friends that get scared of getting

> HCV? If so what do you do?

At first I was afraid of giving hep c to people But knowing more about

how it is transmitted to other people Just dont share razors

toothbrushes combs or brushes And of course covering up cuts right away

with bandages. there is very little chance of transmitted it through

sex. I learned that no worry about it from someone drinking after you

either. Annita

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Hi

I am so pleased for you to have got so far with your Son. You give me great

hope, thank you for posting.

Re the restricted diet - know how you're feeling, dealing with that now! I was

thinking J my son might well turn out this way. He will only eat chips/organic

chicken and organic locks sausages and fruit at the moment. Odd bit of yoghurt

when he can cope with the texture. Spoke to other ASD Mums - apparently I am

lucky! There is a brilliant writer/psychologist in US who deals with food

issues, I've just read her book (borrowed) with loads of hints but I can't

remember her name! I'll know on Tues when I see my friend and will post.

It would be easy to say " Your Son's in recovery, don't worry " but food

definitely has a major impact on life both socially and physically; I understand

how you feel, keep the faith, look at how far you have come.

Good luck,

Eileen

littlegirlcurls <littlegirlcurls@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am new to this group and am using pca-rx and af-x plus an

antioxidant/anti inflammatory drink that have greatly helped my son

who is almost four at the end of this month and diagnosed with

autism. I also for dietary benefit am adding a huge variety of

enzyme's like berry green, perfect food, fruits of life, goatein, o-

zyme, a digestive enzyme from baseline nutritionals as well as buying

organic fruits and really raw honey.

My biggest concern at this point as he has gone from many autistic

behaviors to almost completely typical is that he is barely trying

new foods and its a major struggle. he is eating either french toast

all organic and whole wheat bread for breakfast or peanut butter

sandwhich with goatein sprinkeled in it, vitamin c and a digestive

enzyme plus berry green, then for lunch is always a peanut butter

sandwhich with a little goatein, perfect food and fruits of life and

for dinner is sometimes boneless skinless chicken (not organic) a

table spoon of bbq sauce and a couple tiny bites of yellow potato.

His snacks are organice apples, pears or bananas, his diet is to say

at the very least frustrating. Everything else other than if we go

out to eat once every two weeks is a flat out refusal, fit and then

sleep. He drinks 100% straight carrot juice once a day and water the

rest and he take a viactiv supplement as well (caramel kind not

chocolate). AS we took him off of milk and yogurt a year ago with

great success to irritability mood swings.

He has come such a long way and am so proud of him but what the heck

do i do about his diet?

Thanks, littlgirlcurls

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Hi

I am so pleased for you to have got so far with your Son. You give me great

hope, thank you for posting.

Re the restricted diet - know how you're feeling, dealing with that now! I was

thinking J my son might well turn out this way. He will only eat chips/organic

chicken and organic locks sausages and fruit at the moment. Odd bit of yoghurt

when he can cope with the texture. Spoke to other ASD Mums - apparently I am

lucky! There is a brilliant writer/psychologist in US who deals with food

issues, I've just read her book (borrowed) with loads of hints but I can't

remember her name! I'll know on Tues when I see my friend and will post.

It would be easy to say " Your Son's in recovery, don't worry " but food

definitely has a major impact on life both socially and physically; I understand

how you feel, keep the faith, look at how far you have come.

Good luck,

Eileen

littlegirlcurls <littlegirlcurls@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am new to this group and am using pca-rx and af-x plus an

antioxidant/anti inflammatory drink that have greatly helped my son

who is almost four at the end of this month and diagnosed with

autism. I also for dietary benefit am adding a huge variety of

enzyme's like berry green, perfect food, fruits of life, goatein, o-

zyme, a digestive enzyme from baseline nutritionals as well as buying

organic fruits and really raw honey.

My biggest concern at this point as he has gone from many autistic

behaviors to almost completely typical is that he is barely trying

new foods and its a major struggle. he is eating either french toast

all organic and whole wheat bread for breakfast or peanut butter

sandwhich with goatein sprinkeled in it, vitamin c and a digestive

enzyme plus berry green, then for lunch is always a peanut butter

sandwhich with a little goatein, perfect food and fruits of life and

for dinner is sometimes boneless skinless chicken (not organic) a

table spoon of bbq sauce and a couple tiny bites of yellow potato.

His snacks are organice apples, pears or bananas, his diet is to say

at the very least frustrating. Everything else other than if we go

out to eat once every two weeks is a flat out refusal, fit and then

sleep. He drinks 100% straight carrot juice once a day and water the

rest and he take a viactiv supplement as well (caramel kind not

chocolate). AS we took him off of milk and yogurt a year ago with

great success to irritability mood swings.

He has come such a long way and am so proud of him but what the heck

do i do about his diet?

Thanks, littlgirlcurls

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Eileen, Thanks so much your post was very encouraging to read. And

yes I feel too he is in recovery. His teachers can not believe that

this is the same boy but of course getting the " its a blessing but

not the diet changes " (do you think anyone would be offended here if

I calld them idiots?! <-- just personal opinion)

I feel rather blessed of course, and am praying for the wisdom of the

right things to try and so far have been pretty lucky. Haven't wasted

a whole lot of things to try or time.

My main concern is " and realize that I know they don't understand

enough about autistic children " that family and friends raising their

eyebrows that he would rather eat 3 organic peanut butter sandwhiches

a day with the supplements and even getting the french toast and

chicken in there is a major struggle.

I follow the body for life program for losing weight and toning body

and have dropped 30 pounds so far. I have been trying to have my kids

follow it as close as possible as It's the healthiest I have found

except that trying to get protien into a child you don't want on

dairy or soy is proving a big big problem. Like I said he will eat

egg in the french toast to which I had a table spoon of goatein so it

tastes like vanilla cake (i soooo know this is cheating lol) and a

few nights a week I have done the boneless skinless chicken (how in

the heck do I afford organic by the way on a family of 5 who has

chicken like 3-4 nights a week in different ways?) and so in his

peanut butter sandwhiches I am slipping in the whole foods like

perfect good and berry green and fruitoflife while also a few raw

organic fruits he will allow and the carrot juice ....so he is

following decently close but am more frustrated that my youngest

daughter who is typical will eat anything and my oldest daughter if

finicky but will eat like any other 5 year old but what do I do to

expand him eating something like tunafish once a week or more

preferably a small peice of chinook salmon, or i guess gfcf yogurt?

is this at any organic food store? are there any things I should

watch out for other than the red40 dye?

I figure I can bring in yogurt in with a half peice of fruit to get

the lean protien plus high fiber card for the balanced meal. I

personally dream of the day when he will eat organic veggies lol.

Thanks again, for such an encouraging post, I just feel so much

better and good about myself. Heavyness tends to run in my family and

my hubbies too but I think I am finding its all about how healthy you

eat, whether you are eating balanced meals so your body dosen't go

into a blood sugar rollercoaster, getting rid of build up in the

intestines and heavymetal poisoning that is hidden in fat that can

slow down metabolism, etc. etc. the more I learn the more I apply the

better I feel. I want that for my children as they grow up. If I

teach them responsible eating for body energy and health now then

they won't have the issues I am experiencing now. Its just so hard

with a child with these types of food restrictions mentioned in the

first post to feed him properly.

I appreciate your time,

littlegirlcurls

> Hi all, I am new to this group and am using pca-rx and af-x plus an

> antioxidant/anti inflammatory drink that have greatly helped my son

> who is almost four at the end of this month and diagnosed with

> autism. I also for dietary benefit am adding a huge variety of

> enzyme's like berry green, perfect food, fruits of life, goatein, o-

> zyme, a digestive enzyme from baseline nutritionals as well as

buying

> organic fruits and really raw honey.

>

> My biggest concern at this point as he has gone from many autistic

> behaviors to almost completely typical is that he is barely trying

> new foods and its a major struggle. he is eating either french

toast

> all organic and whole wheat bread for breakfast or peanut butter

> sandwhich with goatein sprinkeled in it, vitamin c and a digestive

> enzyme plus berry green, then for lunch is always a peanut butter

> sandwhich with a little goatein, perfect food and fruits of life

and

> for dinner is sometimes boneless skinless chicken (not organic) a

> table spoon of bbq sauce and a couple tiny bites of yellow potato.

> His snacks are organice apples, pears or bananas, his diet is to

say

> at the very least frustrating. Everything else other than if we go

> out to eat once every two weeks is a flat out refusal, fit and then

> sleep. He drinks 100% straight carrot juice once a day and water

the

> rest and he take a viactiv supplement as well (caramel kind not

> chocolate). AS we took him off of milk and yogurt a year ago with

> great success to irritability mood swings.

>

> He has come such a long way and am so proud of him but what the

heck

> do i do about his diet?

>

> Thanks, littlgirlcurls

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I know, don't you just LOVE the mental disconnect between change in diet and

change in bahaviour/outcome?

Re: Hi

His teachers can not believe that

this is the same boy but of course getting the " its a blessing but

not the diet changes " (do you think anyone would be offended here if

I calld them idiots?! <-- just personal opinion)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Eileen!!!

Eileen McLennan <eileen_mclennan@...> wrote:Yes right! Thanks

that has helped me too, its beautifullly put and has put into words exactly how

I feel

Eileen x

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Thanks!!!

ebrischoux <ebrischoux@...> wrote:Beautifully said.

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