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Discretion is one of my best attributes!!!!!! HEY EVERYONE DAVE AND HIS WIFE ARE GOING HONEYMOON SOON!!!! LOL........See Diane I do behave.......Good to have you back...It's true about the south having such horsepatility.......Weez famous fer it!!!!! Yall come on down now ya hear and git ya some of it!!!! I wish all of you could come down here...Dave you already have gotten a good taste of it.Like myself more of a taste than you needed huh??? LOL..I can laugh now of my past but I sure did want to cry at one time..My side still bothers me and I stay tired all the time!!!! I though being off the meds would have made me pick up a little but it seems it hasn't yet.......

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Hi Diane

Good to have you back!!!!!!!

We're going way up the coast of Maine (Bar Harbor) today for 3 days. The

weather should be nice.

Hi DZ and everyone.

Dennis

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>

> HELLO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!

>

> I'M HOME!!!! ;o

> First I want to Welcome the newcomers to the group! Glad to have you

> here. My name is Diane and I am sure you will enjoy this circle of

> friends that we have here... Sending a big warm welcome to you

> all........

>

> Terri,

> I am sorry to hear about your newest health issue. Be strong, and you

> know that we are here for you.... I know exactly how you feel... Every

> time we turn around there is something else.... Hang in there

> sweetie.....

>

> Hi Jan, S.J., Dennis, -dz-, , , and everyone else....... I

> have jet lag.... Felt a lot better in Florida.... As soon as I got off

> the plane here in N.J. I started having breathing problems and pain....

> I have 300 e-mails to catch up on.... Most will just be deleted.......

> Missed you guys a lot.... No one had a computer so I was lost... LOL...

> I also left my phone numbers home and couldn't call anyone!!! My sister

> showed up early and I was being rushed.... Talk with everyone a bit

> later.....

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

>

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Welcome back! We've missed you. Glad you had a nice

trip. -dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

>

> HELLO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!

>

> I'M HOME!!!! ;o

> First I want to Welcome the newcomers to the group!

> Glad to have you

> here. My name is Diane and I am sure you will enjoy

> this circle of

> friends that we have here... Sending a big warm

> welcome to you

> all........

>

> Terri,

> I am sorry to hear about your newest health issue.

> Be strong, and you

> know that we are here for you.... I know exactly how

> you feel... Every

> time we turn around there is something else.... Hang

> in there

> sweetie.....

>

> Hi Jan, S.J., Dennis, -dz-, , , and

> everyone else....... I

> have jet lag.... Felt a lot better in Florida.... As

> soon as I got off

> the plane here in N.J. I started having breathing

> problems and pain....

> I have 300 e-mails to catch up on.... Most will just

> be deleted.......

> Missed you guys a lot.... No one had a computer so I

> was lost... LOL...

> I also left my phone numbers home and couldn't call

> anyone!!! My sister

> showed up early and I was being rushed.... Talk with

> everyone a bit

> later.....

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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Sounds like fun. Keep an eye out for the meteor

showers this weekend. They're supposed to be visible

from Saturday through Monday. We're expecting a little

better weather this weekend, too. It's been quite cool

the past few days. -dz-

--- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote:

> Hi Diane

>

> Good to have you back!!!!!!!

> We're going way up the coast of Maine (Bar Harbor)

> today for 3 days. The

> weather should be nice.

> Hi DZ and everyone.

>

> Dennis

>

> Re: [ ] Hi

>

>

> >

> > HELLO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!

> >

> > I'M HOME!!!! ;o

> > First I want to Welcome the newcomers to the

> group! Glad to have you

> > here. My name is Diane and I am sure you will

> enjoy this circle of

> > friends that we have here... Sending a big warm

> welcome to you

> > all........

> >

> > Terri,

> > I am sorry to hear about your newest health

> issue. Be strong, and you

> > know that we are here for you.... I know exactly

> how you feel... Every

> > time we turn around there is something else....

> Hang in there

> > sweetie.....

> >

> > Hi Jan, S.J., Dennis, -dz-, , , and

> everyone else....... I

> > have jet lag.... Felt a lot better in Florida....

> As soon as I got off

> > the plane here in N.J. I started having breathing

> problems and pain....

> > I have 300 e-mails to catch up on.... Most will

> just be deleted.......

> > Missed you guys a lot.... No one had a computer so

> I was lost... LOL...

> > I also left my phone numbers home and couldn't

> call anyone!!! My sister

> > showed up early and I was being rushed.... Talk

> with everyone a bit

> > later.....

> >

> > Angel Hugs,

> > Diane

> >

> > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love,

> Hope, Peace & Unity

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hey Jan,

Have you been behaving while I was gone? I was going to ask Cajun if

she was a coon ass, but she was covered in tatoo's so I figured I was

safer not to ask!!!!! LOL..

Dennis:

Have a good time on your trip. Does a soul good to get away....

Thank you all for the Welcome back.... ;o -dz-: Have you kept Jan in

line? ;o

Happy Friday Everyone!!!!!!!

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

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Good plan. Discretion is the better part of valor!

Although you can't underestimate good old southern

hospitality. Diane & I (that's my Diane, we don't want

to start any rumours) are going out of town for a

couple of days, too. It's our 1st anniversary, we're

going up on the peninsula, it's actually considered an

island now, since they dug a canal from Sturgeon Bay

through to Lake Michigan. I'm looking forward to a

little time away, too. -dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hey Jan,

> Have you been behaving while I was gone? I was

> going to ask Cajun if

> she was a coon ass, but she was covered in tatoo's

> so I figured I was

> safer not to ask!!!!! LOL..

>

> Dennis:

> Have a good time on your trip. Does a soul good to

> get away....

> Thank you all for the Welcome back.... ;o -dz-: Have

> you kept Jan in

> line? ;o

> Happy Friday Everyone!!!!!!!

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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I do think of you all when I'm out in nature.

Dennis

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Dennis have a great time ok!!!!! Think of the rest of us while you are gone! Yea right...We will be the farthest people from your mind while you have a chance to get away....WE DON"T BLAME YOU EITHER!!! Have a great trip!!

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Well, I don't think I could get too much of the

southern hospitality, just a little too much of

Bourbon St. Aside from a few people who had a natural

distrust of " yankees " , they have that down home

friendliness that makes you feel like you've known

them for years. Hang in there, I understand that it

takes a while for your system to get back to normal,

it seems to vary widely from one person to another.

-dz-

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> Discretion is one of my best attributes!!!!!! HEY

> EVERYONE DAVE AND HIS WIFE

> ARE GOING HONEYMOON SOON!!!! LOL........See Diane I

> do behave.......Good to

> have you back...It's true about the south having

> such

> horsepatility.......Weez famous fer it!!!!! Yall

> come on down now ya hear and

> git ya some of it!!!! I wish all of you could come

> down here...Dave you

> already have gotten a good taste of it.Like myself

> more of a taste than you

> needed huh??? LOL..I can laugh now of my past but I

> sure did want to cry at

> one time..My side still bothers me and I stay tired

> all the time!!!! I though

> being off the meds would have made me pick up a

> little but it seems it hasn't

> yet.......

>

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> > > >

> > > > The hair test can telll you enough whether your son is heavy

> > metal

> > > toxic.

> > > > You said his hair results showed extremely high aluminum,

> arsenic,

> > > > zirconium. That means he is heavy metal toxic. I don't know

> how

> > > old is you

> > > > son. Normally older kids do not show mercury high. That

doesnot

> > > mean they

> > > > are not toxic of mercury. The mercury may just deeply buried

> in

> > > system.

> > > > Young kids or recent exposure to mercury people will show up

of

> > high

> > > > mercury. My son is 3.5 year old now. We got high mercury data

> > from

> > > his

> > > > hair test.

> > > >

> > > > Ping

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > jwhite@m...

> > > > 19Oct2001 02:00 PM

> > > >

> > > > Please respond to @y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > @y...

> > > > cc:

> > > > Subject: [ ] Reply to Ping

> > > > Retain Until: 11/18/2001 Retention Category: G90 -

> Information

> > > and

> > > > Reports

> > > > Caterpillar Confidential: Green

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ping, thank you for your reply. I have another question for

> > you --

> > > > which test(s) did Pfeiffer use to determine your son was heavy

> > metal

> > > > toxic?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > His hair analysis also showed

> > > > > extremely high aluminum, arsenic, zirconium.

>

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,

Pfeiffer does help me treat the yeast, but I didn't absolutely follow them.

I gave my son nystatin for almost three month at beginning. I saw some

yeast die off reaction. But his yeast never went away. When I loaded him

on cilantro and the metal was stirred up and dumpped out, his yeast was

totally out of control. Later, I read some paper regarding the yeast.

Yeast is a big issue to our kids. If we always use drug to treat them, we

never can get rid of it. The problem with " killing the yeast " is that you

never kill all the yeast because a certain amount of yeast belongs in the

colon. Normal people also have yeast. Since just one candida can become

10 million in ten hours, it jsut comes back once the antibiotic is stopped.

The only way to get rid of yeast is to balance the gut environment which

is right now what we are doing to add more probiotics and recover the organ

normal function which is to get rid of the heavy metal toxicity.

Antibiotics only make yeast more resistantable and more difficult to treat

it.

I am right now not treating my son's yeast. I tolerate his hyper and over

energetic. I am doing the chelation and load him lots lots of strong

probiotics.

I know there are a lot of new kids joining the autism list, but I don't

know the AutismNews in Chicago land. I am living in west surburban of

Chicago. I may be too busy to run for my life here. My husband is a

consultant and traveling every week and I am a full time working mom with

this little autistic sweetheart. If you have some information or web

address, please pass to me.

Blesses!

Ping

" The Kramer

Family "

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<nmkramer@ent cc:

eract.com> Subject: [ ] Hi

11/20/01

10:36 AM

Please

respond to

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Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 12/20/2001

Retention Category: G90 -

Information and Reports

Ping,

I noticed that you are using the Pfieffer center. Do they help you with

yeast treatments? I wondered because a

neighbor may see them and her son may have a yeast problem.

Are you aware of the Chicago area list, AutismNews?

Kramer (Buffalo Grove)

sman may

understand fully the reasoning behind not treating the yeast and

klebsiella

with antibiotics, she may have to follow mainstream protocol (because

she

works for a clinic).

Anyway, Dr. Jossa asked me to tell you to please stop the antibiotic

treatments and zinc and to use a good probiotic (either kirkman's or

the Now

3-6-9) and to double or triple the dose of the probiotic for four or

five

days to help Victor's body recover from losing all the good bacteria in

his

gastrointestinal system (due to the antibiotics). If the antibiotics

are

continued, this could significantly set back healing and he does not

want to

be responsible for any side effects or significantly slowed down

healing time

that could happen as a result of the antibiotics.

The problem with " killing the yeast " is that you never kill all the

yeast

because a certain amount of yeast belongs in the colon. When you kill

the

yeast you leave a space. Since just one candida can become 10 million

in ten

hours, it just comes back once the antibiotic is stopped. Each time

you

administer antibiotics these become more resistant to the antibiotics -

making them much more difficult to kill. The only way to get rid of

yeast

and bacteria in the gut is to make the environment of the gut

" inhospitable "

for the yeast to survive there. If the environment of the gut is

conducive

to hosting yeast further up in the small intestine and stomach (where

it does

not belong) - antibiotics will not change that and they will only come

back -

but will be more resistant to the antibiotics. The yeast problem will

slowly reside on the doc's protocol without treatment. It is just that

the

carbohydrate mechanism has been triggered - which will cause a rise in

yeast

temporarily (according to Dr. Jossa). I know this is contrary to

mainstream

thinking - but is common in most forms of Chinese medicine and

definitely in

homeopathy.

You are always free to decide what you chose to do with your sweet

little

boy, however, mixing protocols probably isn't in Victor's best interest

and I

wouldn't want the doc to pull back and decide not to treat Victor

because of

continued use of antibiotics, etc. If you are worried about the yeast

and

klebsiella, please call Dr. Jossa and speak with him about it. You

could

also have Dr. Usman call him so that she can better understand Dr.

Jossa's

reasoning on this with regard to Victor.

This is not meant to make you panic - just to let you know that you

should

probably call Dr. Jossa and find out the reasoning behind his concerns

- it's

always good to stay connected and in touch with the Doctor that is

treating

your child :)

xoxo

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Sorry that I didn't clear up my friend's mail at the end. Here is one paper

talking about naturally deal with yeast. I just paste it here.

I am right now using biocidin and biotonic herbals to deal with my son's

yeast. And I also apply tea tree oil on his tummy every night after he

falls sleep.

Ping

Conquering Candidiasis Naturally.

by C. Byrnes, N.D., R.N.C.P.

THE NIGHTMARE OF CANDIDA OVERGROWTH

Candida albicans and candida tropicalis are the names given to

common yeasts that live within our

intestines and certain mucous membranes, the throat, for example.

Everyone has candida within them: we

are born with it.

Candida usually lives at peace with our other intestinal fauna,

the acidophilus and bifido bacteria, and it is

these bacterial residents that keep candida under control,

preventing a " population burst. " Candida's

function in the body is mainly to gobble up any putrefied food

matter in our digestive system (mostly

caused by improper digestion due to low stomach acid) before any

potentially harmful bacteria can have a

feast, multiply, and become threatening to our health. After we

die, candida acts to decompose the body,

feeding off our corpse, much like a fungal mold on a dead tree.

Candida is usually kept in check by the gastrointestinal " good "

bacteria and the immune system, but trouble

can arise when certain conditions are present. It is in the

presence of these conditions that candida can

begin growing out of control in the intestines, branching out and

colonizing the gut. In this process, candida

can eat away at the intestinal walls, spread into the

bloodstream, and infiltrate other tissues. The normally

benign yeast has literally transformed itself into an aggressive,

destructive, fungal pathogen that can cause a

variety of seemingly unrelated health problems. This

condition/disease is known as systemic candidiasis.

SYMPTOMS & CAUSES

Systemic candidiasis, as a separate disease, was not recognized

or defined until the 1980's, mostly

because its symptoms were so varied and duplicated those of other

illnesses, leading doctors to conclude

that the patient was suffering from, for example, sinusitis

instead of yeast infiltration of the nasal passages.

Additionally, since one of the main causes of systemic

candidiasis are doctor prescribed antibiotics, which

kill the intestinal bacteria that control candida, the medical

profession was probably not too eager to admit

the existence of this disease. Diagnoses of candidiasis were

limited to its visible manifestations, e.g., a

vaginal or oral yeast infection. Treatment was directed towards

eradicating these conditions alone without

addressing the reality of a more serious, but hidden, infection.

The symptoms of candidiasis, and their severity, vary from person

to person but the main ones are: chronic

fatigue, especially after eating, depression, craving for breads

and sugars (yeast eats sugar), extreme mood

swings, feelings of rage, especially after eating sugary foods,

feeling " drunk " after eating a meal high in

carbohydrates (candida's waste is alcohol), hypoglycemia,

excessive mucous of the throat, nose, and

lungs, chronic fungal infections of the skin (jock itch,

athlete's foot) or vaginal/oral thrush, diarrhea, anal

itching, short-term memory loss, feeling " spacy, " and bloating or

gassiness after eating.

In addition to these, lymphatic swelling, difficult PMS, night

sweats, chest and joint pain, memory loss,

incoordination, blurred vision, intense, random headaches,

intermittent vertigo, insomnia, sneezing fits, and

increased food allergies are also fairly common. A person tends

to get extremely sensitive to damp,

mildewy environments and, sometimes, to extreme humidity as well

as perfumes, colognes, and smoke.

Since candida can infiltrate the urinary tract, acute kidney

infections, cystitis, and prostatitis are possible.

While these symptoms can indicate other illnesses, if certain

factors are present in one's personal history

the symptoms are likely to indicate candida overgrowth. These

factors are:

1.Prolonged, or repeated, use of antibiotics, corticosteroid

drugs, and/or birth control pills, at any

time in the past,

2.a diet high in processed sugars which encourages candida

growth, and

3.preexisting immunosuppression caused by drug or alcohol

abuse, multiple blood transfusions,

debilitating illness, organ transplants, or chemotherapy.

All three are NOT required to bring on a

case of candidiasis: excessive " sugar binging " can cause it

just as surely as antibiotics can.

Pregnancy also predisposes women to the condition since

pregnancy alters the body's delicate

hormonal and pH balance: candida thrives in an alkaline

environment.

Contributing factors are

1.low stomach acidity leading to poorly digested food and

2.improper bowel movements leading to prolonged retention of

fecal matter in the colon: these

conditions promote yeast overgrowth.

A 20TH CENTURY DISEASE

Candidiasis is truly a modern disease, brought on by medical

" innovations " like antibiotics and the Pill and

a more " civilized " diet of refined, sugary foods and candy. In

some naturopathic circles, the illness is

derisively known as " Candy Disease. "

In all seriousness, however, candidiasis is a serious condition

for two main reasons:

1.It often goes undiagnosed, allowing the yeast to spread

unhampered, and

2.the numerous symptoms it produces severely tax the immune

system, forcing it to deal with, not only

the yeast infection, but the other conditions the yeast

causes. A truly vicious cycle can ensue: a

person is weakened by a candida caused problem, say

cystitis, and goes to a doctor who then

prescribes antibiotics for it. The drugs kill off more of

the intestinal bacteria which control candida,

making the candida overgrowth worse, leading to more

infections and more antibiotics, etc. At its

most destructive, candida can exhaust the adrenal glands,

leading to 's disease, can interfere

with digestion so much that virtually no nutrients are

absorbed from food, and can cause life

threatening infestations of the vital organs and the brain.

TREATMENTS & RECOVERY

The standard allopathic treatment for candidiasis is the drug

Nystatin, a mold which inhibits the growth of

other molds like candida. Two other popular drugs are Nizoral and

Fluconazole. While these drugs

certainly kill candida, they do not work forever due to candida's

ability to mutate into drug resistant strains,

nor do they prevent candida from coming back.

Natural therapies are the most potent and effective weapons

against this disease and recovery time lasts

about 6 to 12 months (or longer depending on the length of time

one has had the condition and the severity

of symptoms). This might seem long, but once candida has

colonized the body, it takes quite an effort to

drive it out. Let's now take a look at the natural therapies most

effective against this adaptable and

extremely tenacious invader.

DIGESTION

The key to conquering candida is in cleaning up the digestive

system, the ultimate source of the problem. In

general, one must avoid constipation at all costs so high water

(4-5 glasses a day) and adequate fiber

intake is recommended. Drinking lots of water will also help

flush the dead yeast cells out of your system

as you progress with your treatment. If diarrhea is a problem,

psyllium or yellow dock herb, both available

in capsule form, will tighten the colon. These two herbs are also

effective for constipation ? they are

bowel regulators. Yellow dock is also known as a blood builder,

effective for anemia and low white blood

cell counts. If you decide to take yellow dock, be sure to take

it separately from any herb containing tannic

acid to avoid stomach upset.

Supplementation with acidophilus and bifido bacteria is essential

to recolonize the intestines. While these

bacteria will not kill candida, they inhibit candida's growth

and, generally, clean up the bowels, making it

more difficult for candida to thrive. Look for a high potency

supplement, either freeze dried or refrigerated,

made without cow's milk. You will need to supplement heavily with

these " probiotics " throughout your

recovery and well after all your symptoms have gone.

Chlorophyll-rich foods, like leafy green vegetables

and alfalfa, also promote acidophilus growth and discourage yeast

reproduction.

Proper food digestion is an absolute MUST as nothing makes

candida happier than putrefied, poorly

digested food. Unless you have an ulcer, consider taking a

digestive enzyme supplement with hydrochloric

acid (HCL) immediately before or after each meal. If you have an

ulcer, look for digestive enzyme

supplements without HCL. Plant enzyme supplements are excellent.

Both pancreatin and plant enzymes

can be taken between meals to hinder yeast growth. Using

digestive enzymes will help your condition

dramatically and also take some stress off your pancreas which

might be weary from dealing with possible

candida-caused hypoglycemia. (If you notice any stomach

irritation when using HCL supplements, cut

back on the dose at once to prevent possible ulcer formation.)

If enzyme supplements are not available, a cup of German

chamomile tea just before or after eating will

stimulate HCL production by the stomach. Chamomile will also ease

any gassiness and/or bloating and

contains potent anti-candida compounds. If you have a history of

ragweed allergy do not use chamomile;

fennel or cardamon are fine substitutes. Another herb to consider

for digestion is wormwood.

Wormwood, while extremely bitter, is probably the best digestive

herb around, stimulating HCL and bile

production. SIde benefits of wormwood are ridding you of any

parasites, gas, nervousness, and weak

stomach. Wormwood extract or tincture can be found at any health

food store; take the recommended

dose just before eating in a little water. CAUTION: Wormwood

should not be used by pregnant women.

Since the liver can get overburdened with candida's toxins

because it filters the blood, cleansing this organ

is essential for your recovery. Daily supplementation with

hepatic herbs like, dandelion root, golden seal,

wormwood, barberry, Oregon grape root, or bayberry, is highly

recommended. Again, the need for

increased water intake is emphasized here to facilitate internal

cleansing. CAUTION: Avoid goldenseal

and barberry if you are pregnant.

DIETARY DO'S AND DONT'S

Since candida loves sugar, it must be avoided in all its forms

(dextrose, sucrose, glucose, maltose, lactose,

fructose). Say goodbye to all fruits, except the low sugar ones

like strawberries, cherries, and papayas

which can be eaten in strict moderation. Read the label of every

food product you buy to be sure there is

no added sugar (a near impossible task these days!).

Diet is your main weapon against candida, but also the most

frustrating as you will have to give up a

number of foods. Bid farewell to: wheat, rye, milk, cheese,

alcoholic or caffeinated beverages, potatoes,

honey, mushrooms, and vinegar: all these foods promote yeast

growth or can aggravate already present

yeast colonies. Keep your food well covered in the refrigerator

to prevent mold formation. When eating

out, be sure to ask how a dish is prepared and tell the server to

hold any undesirable ingredients like soy

sauce or mayonnaise.

In general, a low carbohydrate diet is preferred. Carbohydrates,

even complex ones, eventually break

down to glucose (sugar) in the digestive tract, and sugar feeds

candida. Its also adviseable to avoid the

starchier vegetables like sweet potatoes, parsnips, and winter

squashes. Different people, however, have

different sensitivities. I've worked with patients who can handle

wheat, despite a candida problem. You

and your body are your best guide as to which foods to avoid. At

rock bottom, however, all sugars

MUST be avoided.

Due to the restrictions, you may be wondering at times, " What the

hell am I supposed to eat?! " Books will

be listed at the end of the article to help with food selections

and recipes.

On the positive side, assuming you have no allergic reactions,

you can enjoy all of the following: fish,

poultry, meat, all vegetables, brown rice*, eggs, seeds, all nuts

except cashews and peanuts, herb teas,

beans* and lentils*, goat milk*, corn*, amaranth*, kamut*,

quinoa*, buckwheat*, oats*, and spelt*.

Check with a local health food store for sugar free breads made

of kamut, millet, or spelt and consider

eating corn tortillas to replace wheat bread. (*: moderate

amounts only.) To ease their digestion, all nuts,

seeds, and whole grains should be soaked for at least seven hours

before cooking or drying. Soaking

initiates the sprouting process and breaks up the enzyme

inhibitors and phytates found in these foods.

Contrary to popular belief, foods containing yeast may be eaten

if no allergic reactions are present.

Brewer's yeast, for example, is a very nutritious and immune

enhancing food and can be eaten for

nutritional support during one's recovery.

As your symptoms disappear, you can cautiously add back the

forbidden foods, one at a time and slowly.

Do not eat any refined sugars for at least 6 months after your

recovery. Having candidiasis once

predisposes one to getting it again so be very careful after you

are well. Indulging in too many foods too

quickly can, as I can painfully attest to, cause a relapse.

HERBS & SUPPLEMENTS

The following herbs should assist in recovery: Garlic- a powerful

antifungal and immune stimulant. Garlic

will also help with constipation, gas, excess mucous, and blood

cleansing; it is antiparasitic and hypotensive

also. Some people are sensitive to garlic so increase your dosage

slowly to discern any unpleasant side

effects. If there are none, include it liberally in your diet,

everyday. If you prefer to take garlic tablets, look

for ones that are enteric coated to insure that the garlic is

released deep inside the intestines where candida

thrives.

Golden Seal, Barberry, Oregon Grape Root- the berberine in these

herbs is lethal to candida. Berberine is

also a powerful immune stimulant. Don't overuse golden seal as

too much will irritate the liver: take for 2

weeks on, one week off. All of these herbs can also be used to

assist digestion. Golden seal can be

topically applied to ringworm, and made into a tea for athlete's

foot. These three herbs are excellent for

urinary tract problems, being diuretic, antibacterial, and

antifungal. Like wormwood, golden seal and

barberry should not be used by pregnant women.

Licorice root- Though not antifungal, licorice will soothe the

inflamed intestines so common with candida,

thus helping to prevent malabsorption of nutrients and food

allergies. Licorice also tones the adrenal glands

and helps regulate blood glucose, controlling sugar cravings.

This herb is also excellent for excessive

mucous, cough, and constipation.

Astragalus- This popular Chinese herb is excellent for

stimulating the immune system, essential for

recovering from candida or any other infective condition. Aloe

Vera- a must if sufferring from fungal skin

infections. The fresh gel is effective against ringworm, jock

itch, and athlete's foot and will also help heal

cracked, damaged skin. Use bottled gel if the fresh herb is not

available.

Other useful herbs are clove, ginseng (all varieties), ginger,

pau d'arco, and cinnamon. For proper doses,

check the labels, but higher doses may be taken without fear of

toxicity except as noted above.

Tea tree oil, from Australia and New Zealand, is very deadly to

candida and may be used topically for

athlete's foot, jock itch, and ringworm. It can also be used as a

gargle or douche when mixed with water

and can be safely taken internally (3-4 drops, 3 times a day, do

not exceed this dose). Be absolutely

certain the brand you buy does NOT say " For external use only " on

its label.

Caprylic acid, a short chain fatty acid, is extremely effective

against candida and is, fortunately, available

over the counter at health food stores. Look for a slow release

formula of about 300-500 mg. and arrange

for a dose of 500 to 1000 mg. with each meal.

Colloidal silver, and the newer olive leaf extract, are excellent

antifungal agents and lethal to candida.

Though expensive, my clients have had excellent results with

these products. Look for a silver supplement

of at least 40 ppm with a micron size of no more than .001.

Follow the instructions on the labels for the

correct doasages.

Oxygen is an antifungal compound. Taking stabilized oxygen

products, like flavored peroxide

combinations found in health food stores, can also be employed in

one's recovery.

The latest in candida treatment are enteric coated essential

oils. Oregano, peppermint, and rosemary oils

are all extremely powerful against candida and some supplement

companies already have formulas using

these oils on the market. Oregano oil is estimated at being 100

times more powerful than caprylic acid. Be

prepared for some explosive diarrhea when using this product. As

the yeast cells die, the body makes

every effort to expel them.

Vitamin/mineral supplementation is a good idea to not only insure

that adequate nutrients are ingested, but

also to help the immune system fight the infection. The following

are suggested daily guidelines. For

individual needs, its best to see a health practitioner who is

familiar with approaching candidiasis: Vitamin

A (as retinol and beta carotene)- 75,000 iu; vitamin C- 3 to 5

gms.; selenium- 200 mcg.; zinc- 50 mg.;

vitamin E- 400 iu; iron- 10 mg.; essential fatty acids- 4 gms;

high potency multi vitamin/mineral- 1 a day.

One particularly useful nutrient is the free-form amino acid

glutamine. Glutamine is very pivotal in

maintaining proper muscle mass, brain function, intestinal

integrity, and stable blood sugar levels. It is often

prescribed to recovering alcoholics by natural therapists to

control alcohol cravings. 1-3 grams before

each meal is suggested. Glutamine is excellent for helping to

heal leaky gut syndrome, a very common

symptom of intestinal candidiasis. Also, since weight loss is

usual with severe candida infestations, this

amino acid helps protect against muscle loss. Glutamine is also

very stimulating to the immune system. Do

everything you can, then, to acquire it and be diligent about

taking it.

There are homeopathic preparations of Candida albicans on the

market. From personal and professional

experience, you have to be very careful with these products as

they can cause a severe Herxheimer

Reaction, or temporary worsening of your symptoms due to the

rapid die off of yeast cells in the body.

The best way to use homeopathics is to start with a weaker

preparation of about 12X potency, and

gradually work your way up to more powerful doses ? 30C and

above. A slow build up avoids the

unpleasant hassle of aggravated die off.

You will sometimes feel like a walking medicine chest from all of

the supplements, herbs, probiotics, and

antifungal products you'll be taking. Inconvenience aside, it is

necessary as candida is a very tenacious

organism. You must be persistent and unwavering in your efforts

to recover or you will get nowhere; the

total approach is necessary.

DIE OFF

When you take away candida's food, sugar, and attack the yeast

with herbs and supplements, it will die,

causing a condition known as die off. Die off will last from a

few days to a few weeks and the severity of

symptoms will vary from person to person. Usually present are

nausea, headaches, gas, irritability,

diarrhea, severe energy loss, sugar cravings, and blurred vision.

Exercise and water will reduce your symptoms by flushing the dead

yeast cells more quickly from your

system. Use your herbs smartly as many of those listed before can

help, e.g., cinnamon or clove tea will

help allay nausea and gas, as well as help disinfect your

digestive tract.

YOUR GREATEST WEAPON

As a former candida sufferer, and a naturopath who has dealt with

affected individuals, I can confidently

tell you that your greatest weapons against it are your diet and

your patience. Frustration is likely to run

high during your recovery as candida is an incredibly tenacious

organism. Stick it out, however, and know

that you will eventually recover for the rewards are great.

SOURCES & RECOMMENDED READING

The Candida Directory and Cookbook by Helen Gustafson and Helen

O'Shea. 1992; Celestial Arts

Publishing.

The Yeast Connection by Crook, M.D.. 1986; Vintage Books.

Candida Albicans: Could Yeast

Be Your Problem? by Leon Chaitow, N.D. 1985; Thorsons, U.K.

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Pfeiffer does help me treat the yeast, but I didn't absolutely follow them.

I gave my son nystatin for almost three month at beginning. I saw some

yeast die off reaction. But his yeast never went away. When I loaded him

on cilantro and the metal was stirred up and dumpped out, his yeast was

totally out of control. Later, I read some paper regarding the yeast.

Yeast is a big issue to our kids. If we always use drug to treat them, we

never can get rid of it. The problem with " killing the yeast " is that you

never kill all the yeast because a certain amount of yeast belongs in the

colon. Normal people also have yeast. Since just one candida can become

10 million in ten hours, it jsut comes back once the antibiotic is stopped.

The only way to get rid of yeast is to balance the gut environment which

is right now what we are doing to add more probiotics and recover the organ

normal function which is to get rid of the heavy metal toxicity.

Antibiotics only make yeast more resistantable and more difficult to treat

it.

I am right now not treating my son's yeast. I tolerate his hyper and over

energetic. I am doing the chelation and load him lots lots of strong

probiotics.

I know there are a lot of new kids joining the autism list, but I don't

know the AutismNews in Chicago land. I am living in west surburban of

Chicago. I may be too busy to run for my life here. My husband is a

consultant and traveling every week and I am a full time working mom with

this little autistic sweetheart. If you have some information or

webaddress, please pass to me.

Blesses!

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I can relate so much to your situation regarding the yeast. My son seems

to have the same yeast thing with the laughing at 1:00am (I don't know if

you have this specifically) and being soooooo loud and hyper at times. I

am currently treating him with Primal Defense and Biocidin to make sure

I'm addressing his yeast AND bacteria problems.

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Hi

My daughter gets giggly at odd times and places if she has bananas. Since I

stopped bananas, this has gone away! Just a thought....

Jacqui

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to have the same yeast thing with the laughing at 1:00am (I don't know if

you have this specifically) and being soooooo loud and hyper at times. I

am currently treating him with Primal Defense and Biocidin to make sure

I'm addressing his yeast AND bacteria problems.

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I have the same experience with my son. I used to only get two hours sleep

a day, because my son's sleep pattern was aweful. He is much better now.

But occasionally, he gets up and plays and runs all around the house in the

mid-night even 2-3:00am. I get use to it now. I am using primal defense 2

capsules a day and acidophilus and 1/4 teaspoon Europen probiotics.

Biocidin and biotonic is given twice a day also. I will test his stool and

blood, hair and urine at the year end. Hope I will see some improvement.

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I can relate so much to your situation regarding the yeast. My son seems

to have the same yeast thing with the laughing at 1:00am (I don't know if

you have this specifically) and being soooooo loud and hyper at times. I

am currently treating him with Primal Defense and Biocidin to make sure

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Hello Amir,

>I am new to the list as we were diagnosed about a month ago. I

>joined the list to see what various people are doing with regards to

>mercury poisoning.

Good! Welcome. I am curious how you found the list?

> Some of the mail I am reading scares me a bit.

>It seems that some kids do not take so well to the chelation

>therapy. How dangerous is chelation?

I find that difficult to answer. I think chelation is safer than

being mercury toxic. I also think some methods of detox are

unnecessarily problematic. (I'll pick on DMPS injections

as an example.) Mercury poisoning generally scares me

A LOT. It seems the more I know, the more scarry I find

mercury poisoning to be. In fact (oh excuse me for getting

off track here) just yesterday I read a write up about

someone who was ill from what sounded dead-on like

mercury poioning. I actually took the newsletter off

the bulletin board to see about contacting the person,

but, reading on farther, I learned that he died already.

I'm not making this up, and I'm not exaggerating. Of

course, the article said nothing about mercury at all.

Like I said, excuse me for getting off track, but I find

knowing about mercury poisoing can be darned disturbing.

I guess I'd say feeling scarred is pretty reasonable--

there are risks involved, and you are new so you are

hearing stuff that I presume doesn't make a lot of

sense (yet). I can also suggest that you listen for

" the good side " , which is pretty impressive. If you'd

like to read about that, you can look here:

/files/LOVE_LETTERS

> How do you avoid chelation of

>necessary heavy metals such as copper, iron and zinc (to name a

>few).

Um-- I think it is not a problem, but am not equipped to

really explain this. I think DMSA/ALA/DMPS don't really

effect these elements very much.

> Is the research out there substantiated?

There is VERY little research or anything like it as

regards autism and mercury.

A few studies have been funded but not completed yet.

There are some studies of things like chelation agents.

There is lots of research on mercury poisoning and how

truely awful it is. If you like to read research,

you can look at Bernie's website:

http://home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/

Bernie is very big on research-- he is a toxics researcher,

and a DAMS coordinator (that is an anti-amalgam group),

and has hundreds of papers and articles referenced.

(Amalgam dental fillings are one of the main ways that

people get mercury toxic-- along with vaccines.)

> Which mercury

>testing assays are the most accurate?

I'm working hard not to give a snide answer here. Yikes.

The method I'd recommend is to get a hair test, processed

through DDI, and use " the counting rules " . You'll find it

here:

/files/Counting%2BRules

best,

Moria

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Ping,

Do you see a correlation between your son sleeping better and the usage

of these supplements? Maybe his gut is getting better. I think I notice a

pattern in sleep being poor when my son gets too much sugar (natural

sugars from fruit and such) . What is Europen probiotics and biotonic?

Did you get these through Pfieffer?

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Sorry for the late response. My company email address can be checked only

at work. I am back to work now and also back to list.

My son's gut is getting better. At the very beginning, his test told us he

was allergic to not only gluten, casein, also corn, egg, orange, mustard,

cashew, etc. Now he can eat egg. I didn't test him. This was told by my

kineziologist. He eats eggs and I didn't notice anything. His sleep

pattern is much better now even though he still has bad yeast problem. The

Europen probiotics is a very strong probiotics I got from another DAN

doctor we are seeing right now. I think many listmates know him. He is

ph Mercola. His web site is www.mercola.com. He currently includes 15

autistic kids in a group doing this probiotic study. My son is one of them.

He got all these strong bugs from Europe.

I got biotonic and biocidin from Pfeiffer. The web site is

http://www.biobotanicalresearch.com.

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Do you see a correlation between your son sleeping better and the usage

of these supplements? Maybe his gut is getting better. I think I notice a

pattern in sleep being poor when my son gets too much sugar (natural

sugars from fruit and such) . What is Europen probiotics and biotonic?

Did you get these through Pfieffer?

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hi

Hi I am a new member to this list and a complete beginner so please forgive all

my questions. I am really inspired by chelation but find it quite an

intimidating area. I live in London, England and we do not have DAN doctors

here.

How do I start the process of chelating

TESTS?

Are doctors in America willing to work over the phone?

Hope someone can put me on the right track

Thank you

x

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>Hi I am a new member to this list and a complete beginner so please

forgive all my questions. I am really inspired by chelation but find it

quite an intimidating area. I live in London, England and we do not have

DAN doctors here.

>How do I start the process of chelating

>TESTS?

>Are doctors in America willing to work over the phone?

Hello x,

I will answer the parts I can. Ask all the questions you want,

some will get answered and some won't. Don't be put off.

Sometimes people don't know, sometimes they are busy, sometimes

there is too much to say and no place to start. But keep asking.

As I understand it MDs (in US) are not ALLOWED to work by phone.

They have to SEE THE PERSON (in person) whom they are treating, or

else they can get into all sorts of trouble. Some doctors

will work on the phone or by email AFTER they have seen you

in person, although I'd guess this is unusual. I've heard that

Dr. Amy Holmes will do this, and you don't have to see her

very often. (Her contact info is in the FAQ for this list).

But, she also has a VERY VERY long waiting list (it runs in

months..... I am not exaggerating.)

As for tests to see if your child is mercury/metal toxic,

read here:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

/files/Counting%2BRules

I *think* that you can get a hair test through DDI or DLS

from the UK..... You can also ask about doctors (etc) on the list:

-BioMed-UK/

The comments there tend (I think) to mirror what you just said,

that there is not a lot available. Then again, the comments

from people in the US also mirror this sentiment. Some things

are the same all over ;) Anyway, if anyone would know of

useful docs in UK, they would I'd think. There are also people

from UK (and many other countries) on this list.

From my own experience and what I've read, I would say that most

people do feel very intimidated by chelation. Stick around though,

some parts will start to sound easier, while other things (stuff

you never knew to even wonder about) will sound harder. I almost

gave up on trying to sort it out, myself, but now it seems actually

pretty SIMPLE to me. Don't expect it to all make sense overnight,

as it will not! I guess what I mean is " good luck " and please

hang in with it-- it is a steep learning curve....but it doesn't

go on FOREVER.

best wishes,

Moria

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Hi x,

Not that you need a DAN docotor, but if you would like to learn about many

things for your child, education, medical information, diet, ect, Dr. Jeff

Bradstreet, Dr. Jerry Kartzinel and your own Dr. Wakefield will be in

England teaching these things. Forgive me I cannot remember the dates but

you can go to thier website and read information and email Emma for dates,

place, and cost. www.gnd.org or www.kirkmanlabs.com and using the links go

to Good news doctors web site. Good luck! Cabbie

hi

>

>

> Hi I am a new member to this list and a complete beginner so please

forgive all my questions. I am really inspired by chelation but find it

quite an intimidating area. I live in London, England and we do not have DAN

doctors here.

> How do I start the process of chelating

> TESTS?

> Are doctors in America willing to work over the phone?

>

> Hope someone can put me on the right track

> Thank you

> x

>

>

>

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I think he and Dave can both have it all back!!! I hate this weather....DIANE!!!! How R ya?? I miss ya but see you up to your same sweet talkin..LOL.....I finally got back from bringing my freind and her son for Dr appts..Now I'm beat..Hummmm think I deserve a nap with having ran the roads for her the past 2 days not counting putting up with the hubby too!!!!!! Oh yes I do deserve a break!!

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Your winter came to Texas and you can have it back.

It's about 38 right now, with a strong north wind. In

fact I need to go cover my plants,as it's going to be

in the 20s the next couple of nights. Of course you

have a lot more of these cold days so I'll take some

of it off your hands for a day or two.

Sharon

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> Hi Everyone

>

> I took vacation this afternoon because it is such a

> nice day - 60 degrees. I guess by this time

> tomorrow we will be getting the cold wave that is

> now chilling Dave in Green Bay. I just bled and

> adjusted the brakes on my truck. Have to put up a

> shelf for Judy and then go get some groceries. The

> hens are even outside scratching in the leaves - all

> the snow is gone. But I know we're not done with

> winter yet. Got to get back out there.

> Later

>

> Dennis

>

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Sure glad you are enjoying them.

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<P> I'm hearing the birds in the morning too. I picked

up my guitar yesterday too, after leaving it alone for

a week or so. I haven't been working on it too well,

just futzing around enough to remember where the

chords are.. I'm up early this morning, so I may get a

little practice. My discipline is not too great..

:) & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; -dz-

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are a pleasure to me. & nbsp; If you have never heard a

wood thrush or & nbsp;a verry you & nbsp;really missing a

wonderful experience. & nbsp; </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Dave - how's the g-tar ? & nbsp; I

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couldn't play anything. & nbsp; I should get back into

it.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV> & nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Be well,</FONT></DIV>

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