Thrush

[Guest guest]

Thrush is an oral fungal infection which is found quite often in babies.

Vaginitis can be a yeast infection.

HTH

www.bestdogcookies.com

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GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT...

Mix some liquid GSE in a small amount of water. A baby food jar works

nicely. Then take a q-tip and dip it in the solution. swab the inner

cheeks and gums with this solution a few times a day. Also, give GSE

internally. Start with a very low dose and gradually work up. Make

sure the child is on good quality probiotics. This will cure the thrush.

Thrush is candida (yeast) of the mouth, which means the child has a

candida infection of the digestive tract.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Maggie O'rourke

What can you do to treat it?

===>Isn't this just yeast? Could they gargle with some lemon juice with a

couple of drops of GSE in the glass?

If not, I'd try some 3Lac in some apple/pearsauce, with direct contact to the

mouth.

[Guest guest]

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> What can you do to treat it?

This is an oral fungus/yeast issue. I used biotin and GSE to

eliminate yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yeast breakouts imply a breakdown of the body organs. via toxic

buildup..

There is lots of info on the " lymphatic system " of our body... I would

suggest reading more on that..

Also read up on Candida...

R

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> > What can you do to treat it?

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> This is an oral fungus/yeast issue. I used biotin and GSE to

> eliminate yeast.

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> Dana

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[Guest guest]

Becki,

Our son conner had a lot of trouble with thrush. The only way we could get it

under control was with gentian violet (OTC- our pharmacist ordered for us).

However you can't swallow gentian violet, so you can only use it on areas you

can reach with a swab. He hated Nystatin, but our hospital either found cherry

nystatin or made it. He said it was better than the regular. He also tried the

Mycelex troche (dissolves in the mouth), but hated that too. If she is really

struggling you could ask about using a systemic anti-fungal, but they are hard

on the liver. Also, if she is using an inhaled steroid make sure she drinks

afterward. We hate thrush, it is a real pain!

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Thrush

Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr. said she

has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her something to

gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do it. She

says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out afterwards

which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever tried

anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told me to try

to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off it. Would

probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I give her

when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a little this

week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of the thrush?

Becki

Reagon CVID asthma

[Guest guest]

My son was put on Mycelex for his recent throat thrush--it is a

throat lozenge that dissolves in a few minutes in the mouth. He did

not really mind the taste, only tricky part was the need to take it 5

times during the day. It was by doctor's prescription, not over the

counter...I don't have any " home-remedy " to offer.

Beth Bylsma

(10 yrs) selective IgA deficient, GERD

In , " Becki Rion " <rionfam@...> wrote:

>

> Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr. said

she

> has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her something

to

> gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do it.

She

> says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out afterwards

> which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever tried

> anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told me to

try

> to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off it.

Would

> probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I give

her

> when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a little

this

> week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of the

thrush?

>

> Becki

>

> Reagon CVID asthma

>

[Guest guest]

---Last yr my son kept getting it, even using nystatin and later

diflucan. I also put him on probiotics. then he got it down his

throat, same as you, I took him in thinking it was an infection, it

was thrush all down his throat. Our pulmo had the pharm. fix up

something called " magic mouthwash " . It had kaopectate, benedryl,

lidocaine, and a couple other ingredients I cant recall.

HTH,

valarie

mom to 3 w/cvid

In , " Becki Rion " <rionfam@...> wrote:

>

> Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr. said she

> has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her something to

> gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do it. She

> says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out afterwards

> which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever tried

> anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told me to try

> to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off it. Would

> probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I give her

> when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a little this

> week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of the thrush?

>

> Becki

>

> Reagon CVID asthma

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard of that before. Reagon's dentist has prescribed it for

her mouth sores before. He called it pink magic..because I think

they used mylanta in it. Does it actually help the thrush go away or

just the pain caused by it?? I was never really sure.

Thanks!

Becki

> >

> > Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr. said

she

> > has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her

something to

> > gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do it.

She

> > says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out

afterwards

> > which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever tried

> > anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told me

to try

> > to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off it.

Would

> > probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I give

her

> > when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a

little this

> > week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of the

thrush?

> >

> > Becki

> >

> > Reagon CVID asthma

> >

>

[Guest guest]

---Yeah! yep, it totally took care of the thrush. He had it for

months, it was so aggravating! and it also helped the pain.

valarie

mom to 3 w/cvid

In , " Becki Rion " <rionfam@...> wrote:

>

> I've heard of that before. Reagon's dentist has prescribed it for

> her mouth sores before. He called it pink magic..because I think

> they used mylanta in it. Does it actually help the thrush go away or

> just the pain caused by it?? I was never really sure.

> Thanks!

> Becki

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr. said

> she

> > > has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her

> something to

> > > gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do it.

> She

> > > says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out

> afterwards

> > > which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever tried

> > > anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told me

> to try

> > > to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off it.

> Would

> > > probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I give

> her

> > > when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a

> little this

> > > week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of the

> thrush?

> > >

> > > Becki

> > >

> > > Reagon CVID asthma

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for reminding me about it! I think she has a refill on file

at the pharmacy. I'll call first thing in the morning.

Becki

> > > >

> > > > Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr.

said

> > she

> > > > has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her

> > something to

> > > > gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do

it.

> > She

> > > > says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out

> > afterwards

> > > > which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever

tried

> > > > anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told

me

> > to try

> > > > to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off

it.

> > Would

> > > > probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I

give

> > her

> > > > when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a

> > little this

> > > > week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of

the

> > thrush?

> > > >

> > > > Becki

> > > >

> > > > Reagon CVID asthma

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would double check the ingredients. I know from experience that Magic

mouthwash can be variable and doesn't always include nystatin.

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Re: Thrush

Thanks for reminding me about it! I think she has a refill on file

at the pharmacy. I'll call first thing in the morning.

Becki

> > > >

> > > > Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore throat...dr.

said

> > she

> > > > has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her

> > something to

> > > > gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to do

it.

> > She

> > > > says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out

> > afterwards

> > > > which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever

tried

> > > > anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone told

me

> > to try

> > > > to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off

it.

> > Would

> > > > probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I

give

> > her

> > > > when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a

> > little this

> > > > week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of

the

> > thrush?

> > > >

> > > > Becki

> > > >

> > > > Reagon CVID asthma

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You should try gentian violet. It's available at most pharmacies.

It's over the counter, but have to ask the pharmacy for it. If they

don't have it in stock they can order. We've used it alot. My son

pretty much keeps thrush. You just swab around inside your mouth with

it couple times a day. Usually gone in 2-3 days. But, you will be

walkin around with a purple mouth and be careful not to spill as it

will stain. But, seems to work. They used it on my son at childrens

hospital for the first time when he was 2mths. old. Been usin ever

since, when the nystatin isn't working.

>

> Well, if I had only waited one day, I could have answered my own

> question. This morning I woke up with not just the tongue(which is

EW

> enough), but the whole roof of my mouth covered in red and white

> lesions. I hate thrush.

> I went back to my dr today, not just for the thrush, but for the

> constant nagging problems that cant seem to be solved.

> We are going to try to drop my advair to see if the thrush stops(at

> least, then we can stop blaming it when I get it). We already tried

> dropping the dose and that didnt work.

> My dr. says she has seen several patients over the years who have

> similar issues, with the same pattern, and that there is a theory of

> thought that these are all related as some nameless syndrome that

just

> hasnt quite been figured out yet. She says there is just so much

they

> dont know yet.........so much more to learn about the immune

system.

> Anyway, I am going to try Imitrex for the migraines, and am set up

for

> an endoscopy on the 30th of August for the vomiting that has been

> going on since April--off and on.

>

> I know this has nothing to do with my kids PID, but everyone seems

to

> think I have some immune problem of some sort......and it just

> aggravates me to no end that we cant figure it out and treat it. So,

> sorry to whine and ramble.

>

> valarie

>

[Guest guest]

Gentian Violet is awesome, it will kill even severe thrush infections of the

mouth or diaper area in 2-3 days. We did 4 months straight of nystatin when

dd was a baby, poor thing had horrible yeast diaper rashes and dd would just

scream bloody murder when she wet her diaper she was so raw from the yeast

and everyone online suggested I try the GV on it and in 3 days it was gone.

Not bad for a $2 bottle that lasted a couple of years:) We never tried

nystatin again after that.

Re: Thrush

> You should try gentian violet. It's available at most pharmacies.

> It's over the counter, but have to ask the pharmacy for it. If they

> don't have it in stock they can order. We've used it alot. My son

> pretty much keeps thrush. You just swab around inside your mouth with

> it couple times a day. Usually gone in 2-3 days. But, you will be

> walkin around with a purple mouth and be careful not to spill as it

> will stain. But, seems to work. They used it on my son at childrens

> hospital for the first time when he was 2mths. old. Been usin ever

> since, when the nystatin isn't working.

>

>

>>

>> Well, if I had only waited one day, I could have answered my own

>> question. This morning I woke up with not just the tongue(which is

> EW

>> enough), but the whole roof of my mouth covered in red and white

>> lesions. I hate thrush.

>> I went back to my dr today, not just for the thrush, but for the

>> constant nagging problems that cant seem to be solved.

>> We are going to try to drop my advair to see if the thrush stops(at

>> least, then we can stop blaming it when I get it). We already tried

>> dropping the dose and that didnt work.

>> My dr. says she has seen several patients over the years who have

>> similar issues, with the same pattern, and that there is a theory of

>> thought that these are all related as some nameless syndrome that

> just

>> hasnt quite been figured out yet. She says there is just so much

> they

>> dont know yet.........so much more to learn about the immune

> system.

>> Anyway, I am going to try Imitrex for the migraines, and am set up

> for

>> an endoscopy on the 30th of August for the vomiting that has been

>> going on since April--off and on.

>>

>> I know this has nothing to do with my kids PID, but everyone seems

> to

>> think I have some immune problem of some sort......and it just

>> aggravates me to no end that we cant figure it out and treat it. So,

>> sorry to whine and ramble.

>>

>> valarie

>>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Yea..I checked that when I picked it up. The mouthwash he called

in has Lidocain, Benadryl and Maalox..no nystatin. I asked the

pharmacist and he said since I already had the liquid nystatin that I

could just pour some in a measuring cup and mix it in with the pink

stuff. He said it's all mixed in equal parts. Reagon hated the

taste of the nystatin and kept wanting to drink after she had swished

with it. Hopefully mixing it with this will help it taste more

appealing. If not..I'm buying some of that violet stuff!

Thanks!!

Becki

> > > > >

> > > > > Well I found out what was causing Reagon's sore

throat...dr.

> said

> > > she

> > > > > has thrush all down the back of her throat. She gave her

> > > something to

> > > > > gargle with but I am having a hard time getting Reagon to

do

> it.

> > > She

> > > > > says it taste terrible and wants to rinse her mouth out

> > > afterwards

> > > > > which I'm sure defeats the whole purpose! So, anyone ever

> tried

> > > > > anything else? I'm having her eat yoguart, but someone

told

> me

> > > to try

> > > > > to avoid sugar as much as I can because the yeast lives off

> it.

> > > Would

> > > > > probiotics help? I have some of those in the fridge that I

> give

> > > her

> > > > > when she has digestive issues. Also, her PFT's were down a

> > > little this

> > > > > week agian, but I was wondering could it of been because of

> the

> > > thrush?

> > > > >

> > > > > Becki

> > > > >

> > > > > Reagon CVID asthma

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellen,

I'm sorry to hear you are suffering with this. Sometimes the candida

symptoms get worse before they get better.

Here are some oral thrush treatments that Bee recommends:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat18.php

You could also try doing oil pulling with coconut oil. Do a google

search to find out how it is done, just be sure to use coconut oil or

olive oil.

Good luck!

>

> I am having terrible problems with thrush. I have pretty clean

> diet. Veggies and Chicken, fish and meat. I cannot seem to get

the

> thrush under control. I am swishing with grapefruit seed extract.

I

> started on the par d'arco tea. Is there anything else I can do and

> how long will it take to get some relief.

>

> Thanks

> Ellen

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I am having terrible problems with thrush. I have pretty clean

> > diet. Veggies and Chicken, fish and meat. I cannot seem to get

> the

> > thrush under control. I am swishing with grapefruit seed extract.

> I

> > started on the par d'arco tea. Is there anything else I can do and

> > how long will it take to get some relief.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Ellen

**** Hi Ellen:

I know sent you the link to Bee's Thrush treatments and hopefully you

will find

some relief there, but I also want to add that Bee does not recommend using

grapefruit

seed extract ever. It is unproven as an anti-fungal and many commercial

preparations are

made with chloride forms of detergents so the GSE can have toxins in it that

will harm

you.

Check past message strings by typing in " grapefruit seed extract " .

All the best,

Marissa

[Guest guest]

>

> I am having terrible problems with thrush. I have pretty clean

> diet. Veggies and Chicken, fish and meat. I cannot seem to get the

> thrush under control. I am swishing with grapefruit seed extract. I

> started on the par d'arco tea. Is there anything else I can do and

> how long will it take to get some relief.

+++Hi Ellen. In understand how bad it is, since I had severe

thrush and mouth problems when I did my candida program over 20 years

ago.

Like wrote you can get some relief by doing direct treatments,

however it will not be cured until your body is ready, and it takes 1

month of natural healing for every year you've been unhealthy. For

most people nowadays that is since before they were born. Remember

that this program not only cures candida but it is also a healing

program.

You say your diet is pretty clean, but you do not list good fats. Are

you on my diet and taking all of the supplements, or someone else's?

You didn't say you are taking unrefined coconut oil, which is the main

antifungal on this program.

Please ensure you read How to Successfully Overcome Candida and Curing

Candida, How to Get Started, since they also explain about how the body

heals itself naturally and why it produces healing/die-off symptoms and

even " retraces " all previous illnesses, symptoms, diseases, injuries,

etc.: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

For encouragement see this many Success Stories by members of this

group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > I am having terrible problems with thrush. I have pretty clean

> > diet. Veggies and Chicken, fish and meat. I cannot seem to get

the

> > thrush under control. I am swishing with grapefruit seed

extract. I

> > started on the par d'arco tea. Is there anything else I can do and

> > how long will it take to get some relief.

>

-----Try Oil Pulling with Coconut Oil. Works wonders for me.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicky...there is an 'old time' remedy called 'gentian violet' that some

pharmacies still carry. You could call your pharmacist. I have never used it,

but my (adult) daughter has.

Cheryle, in Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicky:  Too bad you have that nasty Thrush.  I got an RX for a mouth rinse

that takes the pain away.  It numbs the mouth and tongue.  Hope you get relief

soon.

 

Hugs,

 

Barbara

From: vickyn730 <vickyn730@...>

Subject: [ ] Thrush

Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:49 PM

 

Hello everyone! Hope everyone is having a Merry Christmas eve! I have developed

thrush and I saw my rheumy yesterday and she put me on Diflucan for 1 week, but

its so painful and nasty, is there any home remedies that can help with the pain

and has anyone else had this problem? Help!

Vicky

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to clarify the acid blocker is definitely not needed for my

reflux. It actually never worked for my reflux, which was severe. The reflux

finally disappeared after I got on your diet. I stopped taking it for several

weeks when I started your program. No reflux but the burning in my stomach

definitely got worse. I just don't know how to handle these two issues

together. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

thanks so much!

Emmi

-- In , " higginsemmi " <higginsemmi@...> wrote:

>

> I have been on the program for eight weeks now. My digestive symptoms have all

but disappeared and the wicked reflux I had is gone completely. One last symptom

I can seem to get under control is the thrush, it improves and comes back,

though it is much less severe than it was. I believe my yeast problem is the

result of the use of a steroidal nasal spray and inhalers which I have not taken

for five months. I have one problem though which I believe is hindering my

success. I am taking a presciption acid blocker for a stomach ulcer. I am

supposed to take it for five more weeks. I tried licorice but that was not

enough for the night time burning. I seems logical to me that the low acid

hindering my digestion could be a contributing factor but I need to heal this

ulcer too. Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

> Emmi

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been on the program for eight weeks now. My digestive symptoms have all

but disappeared and the wicked reflux I had is gone completely. One last symptom

I can seem to get under control is the thrush, it improves and comes back,

though it is much less severe than it was. I believe my yeast problem is the

result of the use of a steroidal nasal spray and inhalers which I have not taken

for five months. I have one problem though which I believe is hindering my

success. I am taking a presciption acid blocker for a stomach ulcer. I am

supposed to take it for five more weeks. I tried licorice but that was not

enough for the night time burning. I seems logical to me that the low acid

hindering my digestion could be a contributing factor but I need to heal this

ulcer too. Any thoughts?

>

+++Hi Emmi - it is very important that you stop taking the acid blocker, which

is affecting your whole body, not just your digestion.

To get off it, stop taking it all at once, and get a good unpasteurized

sauerkraut (found in the fridge at the health store), and take 1/2 cup with

every meal. Also take it with you everywhere and every time you get stomach

symptoms take 1-2 tablespoons; also take it in the night when you get burning

symptoms. It will take about 3 weeks. I've known many people who got off acid

blockers this way, and every person reports that it takes 3 weeks.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee, I will go out and stock up on more sauerkraut today. I am already

eating sauerkraut with my meals (because I read about it on your website), but

now I will also eat some whenever I feel the burning. This is just the kind of

answer I was hoping for. Hate, hate taking the acid blocker. Now I can be all

in.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question.

Emmi

> >

> > I have been on the program for eight weeks now. My digestive symptoms have

all but disappeared and the wicked reflux I had is gone completely. One last

symptom I can seem to get under control is the thrush, it improves and comes

back, though it is much less severe than it was. I believe my yeast problem is

the result of the use of a steroidal nasal spray and inhalers which I have not

taken for five months. I have one problem though which I believe is hindering my

success. I am taking a presciption acid blocker for a stomach ulcer. I am

supposed to take it for five more weeks. I tried licorice but that was not

enough for the night time burning. I seems logical to me that the low acid

hindering my digestion could be a contributing factor but I need to heal this

ulcer too. Any thoughts?

> >

> +++Hi Emmi - it is very important that you stop taking the acid blocker, which

is affecting your whole body, not just your digestion.

>

> To get off it, stop taking it all at once, and get a good unpasteurized

sauerkraut (found in the fridge at the health store), and take 1/2 cup with

every meal. Also take it with you everywhere and every time you get stomach

symptoms take 1-2 tablespoons; also take it in the night when you get burning

symptoms. It will take about 3 weeks. I've known many people who got off acid

blockers this way, and every person reports that it takes 3 weeks.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

i have thrush a lot have taken diflucan for it stay away from sugar

and acidohilis helps too.i have also taken anti fungal lozenges from my

ak=llergist

In a message dated 7/4/2010 11:10:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

calicocat477@... writes:

What is the best thing that worked for anyone who's had thrush? I can't

believe it came back. I had it in the past place.

My husband had a fan on I told him to throw out. It takes this to

convince him every thing from there had to go.

Thanks, Kathy

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