Introduction

September 5, 2000

In a message dated 09/05/2000 7:13:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

karhubb@... writes:

> The most important thing to me is that I

> feel I have recaptured my life...I feel better now than I did 10 years ago.

you took the words right out of my mouth

(no worry, I have plenty more of them LOL)

Barb

who needed a fun exercise to get me off the puter chair

September 5, 2000

In a message dated 9/5/00 12:35:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, karhubb@...

writes:

<< I have a feeling that everything will go alot easier now that I have

found this great list. >>

Welcome

WTG on the positive life change!!

September 5, 2000

> Hi Everyone,

> I'm , 44 years old, mother to 3 grown children, grandmother

to 2

> (with another due next month). My youngest son just started

college at Univ.

> of DE last week, so my house feels very different these days. I

work full

> time + at the local Veterinary hospital. My passion (beside taebo)

is dogs,

> dogs, dogs and dog training. At the moment, I have 6 dogs (have

had up to 9

> before)...most are rescues from the animal hospital. Beckett is

the pup who

> takes nearly every bit of time I have. She is a VERY active 9

month old

> Border Collie, and the absolute love of my life (as far as dogs go,

that

> is!). She and I go to doggie school 2 nights a week, Tues for

obedience, and

> Wed for agility. We try to practice our lessons for a few minutes

every

> morning and evening.

> I have been wanting to introduce myself to you all for the

past few

> weeks, but I always chicken out for some reason. I have been doing

taebo and

> other types of exercises, on and off for about the past year and a

half. My

> " health kick " started Jan. 1999. I am 5'2 " weighed 150 lbs, smoked

2+ packs a

> day and spent ALL of my leasure time on the couch in front of the

tv. I

> don't know what happened...I just got totally sick of myself. It's

been a

> long and very hard struggle, but I have lost weight (about 15 lbs),

added

> about a ton (!) of muscle and have given up smoking for over a year

now. I

> do my best to drink 2 liters of water every day and eat mostly the

right

> things.

> I have a feeling that everything will go alot easier now that

I have

> found this great list. You all are so nice and supportive of one

another

> that it just makes me want to jump in and take part! You have all

been

> wonderful inspiration for me and for that I thank you. Bye for

now,

Welcome, . I'm glad you decided to delurk. I can tell already

that you will have a lot to add to this group. We can always use

another dog lover (I LOVE my German Shepherd and my office is covered

with photos of past and present dogs and cats plus some of my

husband, LOL). Congratulations on quitting smoking. What a great

accomplishment.

Elena

September 5, 2000

Hi ! Welcome to the group!

You and I have so much in common already! We both started Tae-Bo

around the same time. I'm 5'1 " but I started out at 183 lbs. I've

lost about 21 poundfs of that in the 18+ months I've been doing Tae-

Bo. Like you, I had spent all my time on the couch in front of the

TV. I can identify with you being sick of what you'd become, I was

the same way. I had put on 35 lbs over 3 years from depression. I

knew my weight was getting out of hand, but being so depressed, sadly

I didn't have the motivation to do anything about it. I'm glad we've

both gotten a handle on ourselves. Things can only get better from

here on out! Congratulations on quitting the smokes too!

Getting healthy is a never-ending struggle, and I also agree that

this list can make the journey a lot more fun! It helps to know that

you're not the only one going through this and that we share a lot of

the same struggles. I'm happy you decided to join us!

Ann Marie - who's also from Joisey

> I have been wanting to introduce myself to you all for the

past few

> weeks, but I always chicken out for some reason. I have been doing

taebo and

> other types of exercises, on and off for about the past year and a

half. My

> " health kick " started Jan. 1999. I am 5'2 " weighed 150 lbs, smoked

2+ packs a

> day and spent ALL of my leasure time on the couch in front of the

tv. I

> don't know what happened...I just got totally sick of myself. It's

been a

> long and very hard struggle, but I have lost weight (about 15 lbs),

added

> about a ton (!) of muscle and have given up smoking for over a year

now. I

> do my best to drink 2 liters of water every day and eat mostly the

right

> things.

> I have a feeling that everything will go alot easier now that

I have

> found this great list. You all are so nice and supportive of one

another

> that it just makes me want to jump in and take part! You have all

been

> wonderful inspiration for me and for that I thank you. Bye for

now,

October 22, 2000

In a message dated 10/22/00 7:35:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, js.tate@...

writes:

<< Hi! I just wanted to drop a note and introduce myself. My name is Joan

and

I am 36 <gulp!>. I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because of

my busy schedule, I got off track. >>

Welcome Joan! What tapes do you do? Do you have the original set? Maybe

treating yourself to some of the new, live tapes would help your motivation?

We are glad to have you join us!!

October 22, 2000

In a message dated 10/22/00 6:35:35 PM Central Daylight Time, js.tate@...

writes:

<< i! I just wanted to drop a note and introduce myself. My name is Joan and

I am 36 <gulp!>. I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because of

my busy schedule, I got off track. I really want to get back to it, but am

having trouble getting myself motivated. I was doing the advanced tape, but

right now I'd be happy doing the basic one all the way through.

Joan >>

Well Joan, make yourself happy and get down to business on that Basic

tape..Well to the group..I to am 36 and will be 37 (yikes) in December..I

kinda decided that I want to be in better physical health by the time I'm 40

then I was when I was younger!!! The hard part about any type of workout

program is staying with it in the long haul...for that you have to really

want it and dig deep...I was just reading an article on this today..how

people seem to find ways out of it..I'm too busy, I'm stressed out (nothing

destresses better then exercise)..my kids, I " m sore etc..the list goes

on..but, the reality is that to keep it a part of your life..You have to make

it a part of your life..find what works best for you..for me, early morning

workouts before work seem to work best..I am now tuned into setting my alarm

and getting outa bed..now in all honesty sometimes I'd love to sleep in and

its hard to motivate myself..so sometimes I jump on here quick and get a

boost from everyone and then get to it..or I conjure of my " vision " of where

I want my live, my body, my health to be..and that works..so anyways, didn't

mean to ramble on here..I really just wanted to welcome you and say congrats

to getting back in the groove....You can do it!!!

Kathy

October 22, 2000

Joan welcome to the group!!!! I hope you fiond some motivation, energy and

time-tips here. I know I have!!!

<< Hi! I just wanted to drop a note and introduce myself. My name is Joan

and

I am 36 <gulp!>. I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because of

my busy schedule, I got off track. I really want to get back to it, but am

having trouble getting myself motivated. I was doing the advanced tape, but

right now I'd be happy doing the basic one all the way through.

Joan

October 22, 2000

Welcome Joan!!!!!!! One thing I use to suggest to people who have "fallen off the wagon" is to remember what got them started doing Tae-Bo in the first place and how they felt while doing it. I don't know if you have any of the live tapes, but that might be something too. The music is "old school" and it's like being in a class with . Plus you can work out with many of us: Lucie (BL5), (New Live 4 Pack Basic and Advanced), Me and Patty H (BL10). Sandie, Tae and Bo who has been able to be an inspiration and motivator both on and off line to many Introduction Hi! I just wanted to drop a note and introduce myself. My name is Joan andI am 36 <gulp!>. I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because ofmy busy schedule, I got off track. I really want to get back to it, but amhaving trouble getting myself motivated. I was doing the advanced tape, butright now I'd be happy doing the basic one all the way through.JoanAs Deb has said: "Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step.""This isn't about weight loss, it's about enlightenment" -Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

October 22, 2000

,

Thanks for the welcome. I have the original set of videos and had worked my

way up to the advanced tape. I really liked it although there was a part in

the floor work where says " I like what you're doing right now! " and

what I was usually doing was laying on the floor dead! ;-) I'd was

thinking about getting the live tapes, but decided that it would make a

great Christmas gift. I just need to get my body moving at 5 am so I can

get it done before the rest of the family is up.

Joan

>

> Welcome Joan! What tapes do you do? Do you have the original set? Maybe

> treating yourself to some of the new, live tapes would help your

motivation?

> We are glad to have you join us!!

>

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> As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

> " This isn't about weight loss, it's about enlightenment " -

>

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

October 22, 2000

Welcome to the group Joan, you will find a lot of

support here.

Doris

--- Joan & Stace Tate wrote:

> ,

>

> Thanks for the welcome. I have the original set of

> videos and had worked my

> way up to the advanced tape. I really liked it

> although there was a part in

> the floor work where says " I like what you're

> doing right now! " and

> what I was usually doing was laying on the floor

> dead! ;-) I'd was

> thinking about getting the live tapes, but decided

> that it would make a

> great Christmas gift. I just need to get my body

> moving at 5 am so I can

> get it done before the rest of the family is up.

>

> Joan

>

> >

> > Welcome Joan! What tapes do you do? Do you have

> the original set? Maybe

> > treating yourself to some of the new, live tapes

> would help your

> motivation?

> > We are glad to have you join us!!

> >

> > eGroups Sponsor

> >

> > As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it

> begins with the first step. "

> > " This isn't about weight loss, it's about

> enlightenment " -

> >

> > Visit our new vault site

> http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

> >

October 23, 2000

In a message dated 10/22/2000 10:56:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

js.tate@... writes:

<< I just need to get my body moving at 5 am so I can

get it done before the rest of the family is up.

>>

Joan,

try making a promise to yourself to work-out, even if just the 8 minute

work-out BEFORE signing on a pre-selected 3 or 4 days a week

Barb

who has found puter addiction can be an obstacle to doing Tae-Bo

October 23, 2000

In a message dated 10/22/2000 7:34:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

js.tate@... writes:

<< Hi! I just wanted to drop a note and introduce myself. My name is Joan

and

I am 36 <gulp!>. I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because of

my busy schedule, I got off track. I really want to get back to it, but am

having trouble getting myself motivated. I was doing the advanced tape, but

right now I'd be happy doing the basic one all the way through. >>

Welcome, Joan! I agree with everyone that you need to start with baby steps

and concentrate on what you are accomplishing now, rather than what you used

to do. The important thing is that you are starting taebo again! We will

give you tons of support here.

Elena

October 23, 2000

> I had a great time doing tae-bo last year but because of

> my busy schedule, I got off track. I really want to get back to

it, but am

> having trouble getting myself motivated.

Joan,

Welcome to the group and congratulations on getting back into Tae-

Bo! We all fall off track every now and then....it happens to almost

everyone at some point in time along their journey, so please don't

beat yourself up about that Try not to think about what you used

to be able to do, cause that will usually involve negative

thinking...like " Oh, I used to be able to do the advanced and now I

can barely get through 10 minutes of the basic....I'm so much weaker

than I used to be " or something like that! And that will make you

quit every time! Try to focus on the positive stuff.....focus on

what you are doing this time around and forget about where you used

to be. Be proud of every step you take towards your goal. Set a

goal for yourself and make sure it is something realistic! If you

find the basic tape is too strenuous right now, then start off by

telling yourself that you will do 15 minutes of the workout, 3 or 4

days a week. Next week, shoot for 20 minutes and slowly work

yourself up to the full workout! Or maybe break the workout up into

2 workouts...do 15 minutes in the morning and 15 minutes when you get

home from work! It's still just as effective if you do it that way,

and you might be able to talk yourself into getting out of bed at 5am

a little more easily if you know you only have to do 15 minutes

Take

it slow and be proud of what you are doing, even if it seems like

something really small! Baby steps will get you to your goal a lot

quicker than big, huge steps....cause you're more likely to stick to

it if the changes you make are small and doable Good luck! I

look forward to hearing more from you!

October 24, 2000

In a message dated 10/24/00 8:27:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, js.tate@...

writes:

<< I did actually do the basic tape yesterday

after work and picking up the kids and as I sit here typing this, I just

finished the basic tape at 5:25 a.m.! Yup, I got up early today! Day 2 of

my 21 dc and on my way to day 3!! >>

Great job Joan!!!

January 31, 2009

HI Jennine,

welcome to the group! I'm sure you will find many sympathetic ears here!! I have

two with OCD, ages 12 and 7, and a 13 yr old who doesn't.

It is very difficult parenting children with OCD and without it!!!(sigh)

Wow! 4 months is a long wait. You don't have anywhere else you could take him

before that, until you get in? It is like that here also. The small towns seem

to be notorious for that.

It is so sad to watch your child change before your eyes, and I know all of us

here can understand what you are going through. Has he been diagnosed with

Asperger's?

Hugs

judy

________________________________

To:

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:31:15 PM

Subject: Introduction

Hello Everyone!

My eldest son (10 next week) was recently diagnosed with OCD, depressed mood and

GAD. He has 2 younger brothers (4.5 and 2) which he feels are both a curse and a

blessing. Our journey to this diagnosis has been a long one. There was something

very

clearly different about my son from birth, but I did not think very much of it

until he

started preschool. He was the kind of baby that always wanted me to hold him. If

I wasn't

holding him, he was crying. He could only fall asleep if he were lying on top of

me. Before

he was crawling, he recognized books by their binding. He started talking early.

He was

very clearly disturbed when things weren't in their rightful place. Still, he

managed to be a

happy child...he was quite adept at controlling his surroundings until he

entered

preschool at 2 1/2. When I sought help for him early on, his doctors and

teachers said

there was nothing wrong...he was just gifted, possibly ADHD. It wasn't until

last year that

we met with sympathetic ears and that was only after my son started saying

things like " I

wish I were dead. "

Over time, I have watched my happy, gifted, curious, confident, creative and

outgoing

child turn into an angry, frustrated, self-loathing, sad, lonely and fearful

child. He has

hoarded things (discarded pencils, broken crayons, rocks, sticks, string,

garbage, etc.)

since preschool. He has been throat clearing since Kindergarten. Socially, he

has always

struggled. In the last year I began to notice him check and do other unusual

rituals. It is a

struggle to get him to do homework, projects from cub scouts, and to clean his

room.

He was diagnosed with OCD, GAD and depressed mood after we were finally able to

have

him evaluated for Asperger's last October. This diagnosis has opened our eyes

and we are

starting to see how his behavior is related to OCD. My husband and I struggle

with how to

parent him and our 2 other children.

My eldest is currently going through CBT and, on Monday, we will be placed on a

4 month

wait list for him to be seen by a psychiatrist. We are looking into medication

for him.

We are in this for the long haul. I know we have a long road ahead of us. I feel

so badly for

my son. I miss that special twinkle in his eye and want him to be happy again.

I live in a rural part of Oregon where there are no support groups for children

with OCD or

for parents of children with OCD, so I am grateful for this list.

Best,

Jennine

January 31, 2009

Jennine,

Sorry for the delay in writing I'm on digest and only get one email a

day with all the posts in it.

Welcome to the group, one good thing I can tell you is it doesn't

matter if your in Oregon, this group gives support to anyone with a

computer and guess what YOU QUALIFY ;-) You don't have to wait 4

months for some support!!!!

You'll find parents just like you, some are starting the journey like

you, some are in the middle of the journey like me with an 18 year

old. Each person/parent has their own thoughts and advise.

I'm glad you found this place and I hope you'll find some peace

knowing that you are not the only one dealing with a child with OCD.

As far as you Son, I'll tell you all is not lost, your email was so

sad about how he use to be happy. Please Please don't give up hope

already. My sons OCD became a problem at age 6 or 7, at that time we

went to a Dr and he put him on Zoloft, we got our son back, he went

from having to wash his hands for what seemed like hours to where the

medicine provided enough help to where his OCD didn't control his

life. That worked for several years and then we switched to Prozac,

it again helped enough to move the OCD from major to minor and

provided him the relief to live and enjoy life. I'm not saying it's

all about meds, meds might help but one also needs to explore Con

Behavior Therapy as the father of a child that used only meds and

then got to 16 and refused to take them anymore, and refused any help

and went into a cave, I wish so much I had explored CBT so he learned

the tools to fight and win over his O's and C's. As a result I say

when they are young get them as much exposure to CBT and possible.

Learn from my mistake

So there is hope, you son will not be lost and unhappy forever!!! I

promise you'll have good moments and times, you've just got to get

over the hill.

OK on your Dr, Holy Cow 4 months, wow!!! I guess there is no other

doctor around??? Some might say to ask his primary care dr about a

low dose zoloft but I'm found since SSRI got linked to increase

chance of suicide thoughts, some Ped Docs don't feel comfortable

doing this. Others can share their thoughts.

Lastly being in Oregon has good points

1) The Wilderness and the Trees, I'm a horse lover, I want to ride

my Horse is OR before I die

2) It's not crowded LOL

The bad point is sounds are though this isn't much help around. What

town do you live in, I can get you a list of counselors that

specialize in OCD treatment, you just might be surprised to find one

close to you.

If you find you are so far way that a therapist is out of the

question, there are many self help books, you as the mother can learn

and study about it and work with your son in short low strees

sessions, basically you become the therapist and help your son learn

CBT, it can be done, it may not be best option but when you have no

other choice it's worth a try.

Lasty, Take care of yourself!!! Be sure to squeeze in alittle ME

time, get your hair done, get a massage, go for a walk by yourself,

or to a movie with your husband. If you live this 24 hr a day, week

in, week out, you'll go crazy, get some time away from the OCD, even

if only for 30 mn or an hour.

I'm glad you are here and I hope you find it as helpful and I do.

This group rocks!!!!

Kindy,

Tim Wahl

Columbia MO

>

> Hello Everyone!

>

> My eldest son (10 next week) was recently diagnosed with OCD,

depressed mood and

> GAD. He has 2 younger brothers (4.5 and 2) which he feels are both

a curse and a

> blessing. Our journey to this diagnosis has been a long one. There

was something very

> clearly different about my son from birth, but I did not think very

much of it until he

> started preschool. He was the kind of baby that always wanted me to

hold him. If I wasn't

> holding him, he was crying. He could only fall asleep if he were

lying on top of me. Before

> he was crawling, he recognized books by their binding. He started

talking early. He was

> very clearly disturbed when things weren't in their rightful place.

Still, he managed to be a

> happy child...he was quite adept at controlling his surroundings

until he entered

> preschool at 2 1/2. When I sought help for him early on, his

doctors and teachers said

> there was nothing wrong...he was just gifted, possibly ADHD. It

wasn't until last year that

> we met with sympathetic ears and that was only after my son started

saying things like " I

> wish I were dead. "

>

> Over time, I have watched my happy, gifted, curious, confident,

creative and outgoing

> child turn into an angry, frustrated, self-loathing, sad, lonely

and fearful child. He has

> hoarded things (discarded pencils, broken crayons, rocks, sticks,

string, garbage, etc.)

> since preschool. He has been throat clearing since Kindergarten.

Socially, he has always

> struggled. In the last year I began to notice him check and do

other unusual rituals. It is a

> struggle to get him to do homework, projects from cub scouts, and

to clean his room.

>

> He was diagnosed with OCD, GAD and depressed mood after we were

finally able to have

> him evaluated for Asperger's last October. This diagnosis has

opened our eyes and we are

> starting to see how his behavior is related to OCD. My husband and

I struggle with how to

> parent him and our 2 other children.

>

> My eldest is currently going through CBT and, on Monday, we will be

placed on a 4 month

> wait list for him to be seen by a psychiatrist. We are looking into

medication for him.

>

> We are in this for the long haul. I know we have a long road ahead

of us. I feel so badly for

> my son. I miss that special twinkle in his eye and want him to be

happy again.

>

> I live in a rural part of Oregon where there are no support groups

for children with OCD or

> for parents of children with OCD, so I am grateful for this list.

>

> Best,

> Jennine

>

March 20, 2009

Thanks BJ for the welcome! When my husband started staying home with , 5 at

the time, and our other daughter, Maren (age 3 then), it was another transition

time for us as we had just moved and my husband went from working an IT job to

working in a church as a music pastor. I went to work full time outside of our

home, to supplement his salary. Between the move and the changes in our jobs,

went crazy and would ask my husband 10-30 times or more in an HOUR (not

exagerating) whether I was going to make it home and whether I would die at my

job. He had not been used to being at home and this sent him into a feeling of

not knowing what to do for her to help her. This is when we went to our 2nd

therapist who did not do ERP and was not willing to learn it, and felt like we

would be able to help her with the tools we were using. We saw him for 4

sessions. I did alot of reading on OCD, but lucky for us, she stabilized after 6

months and we did

not at that time, have to use too many of the techniques that I had read about.

But we are back to her constant questioning and worrying, and she talks about

killing herself even. Thus the call to this new therapist! She has her first

session Monday. I had a 2 hour session with her 1 week ago, and really like her

but will have to see about the ERP. She has not really used it before but said

she is familiar with it and will study it further to try it with her.I do not

know if is ready or not for ERP, but am hoping she will be.

She is in second grade and is about 1-1 and 1/2 years behind, but at least this

year we were able to get her on an IEP. She has caught up some this past six

months. Reading is very much a chore for her as she repeats phrases and when

there are pictures she stares at them and makes up her own storiesinstead of

reading what is on the page.

On the bright side she is one of the most creative and imaginative children that

her teachers have ever worked with! They are always amazed at how her mind

works! They do not see the OCD at school though, they say, (except her teacher

says she is always asking her friends whether they believe in God and the

teacher has scolded her and spoken to us several times about this.)

Sorry for the lengthy history. Thanks again!

Sharon

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To:

Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:18:36 PM

Subject: Re: Introduction

Welcome, Sharon. I'm glad you decided to jump in and introduce yourself. )

Glad you found us and are here too.

How was your daughter when your husband stayed home with her? Did he notice lots

of OCD issues? Or did it only escalate with this change of you staying home with

her? Just curious.

Change is always hard for those with OCD. Our son always reacted badly too it

too. He seems to have become more accepting of it now that he is older (17). .

More flexible in general, which is a relief.

The flaring up and calming down of OCD is common. Our son's OCD and waxed and

waned to the extreme throughout his life. Sometimes being so bad that he

couldn't function at all, yet other times handling things pretty well, with just

some quirks.

It sounds like you are on the right track for treatment. I hope this therapist

works out for you. The ERP is so, so important to them improving. It's great

that is ready to do it, that is half the battle right there. . .Their

readiness.

Let us know how it goes. )

BJ

March 21, 2009

**********

but will have to see about the ERP. She has not really used it before but

saidshe is familiar with it and will study it further to try it with her.

**********

Hi, Sharon. I had read, as a suggestion, in one of the books on OCD that I

have, that if you cannot find a therapist who knows ERP and has used it

successfully before,. . If they are willing (which it sounds like your new

therapist is), to have them use a book on OCD, to work through with you, to

implement the right therapy. There are a couple of really good workbooks for OCD

you might want to try, if that sounds like something you might want to do. They

are~

Helping Your Child With Ocd: A Workbook for Parents of Children With

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Lee Fitzgibbons and Cherry Pedrick

Talking Back to OCD by March

I've read both and they are great. They don't cover every possible way that OCD

can manifest itself though, and that's where the therapist will have to get

creative, but it might help. Just a thought. )

You commented that you didn't know if she was ready for the ERP. Sometimes they

are not. And as they challenge the OCD, they can either get feelings of anxiety

or just feel uncomfortable, as they fight the urge to do the ritual. But, if

they hold out, the feeling eventually subsides, and they win. Once they have

control, the thought that drives the need to do a ritual, will subside, and in

some cases disappear completely. When they realize that, it gives them

confidence to continue to move forward to take on another manifestation of OCD.

Sometimes people have to wait for their kids to be ready, but if they are, it

can retrain the brain, and is proven to be more effective than any other

treatment.

You also said. . .

*************

They do not see the OCD at school though, they say, (except her teacher says she

is always asking her friends whether they believe in God and the teacher has

scolded her and spoken to us several times about this.)

*************

That could be a form of scrupulosity, which many with OCD deal with. If they

are not aware of that being part of her OCD, they should maybe be made aware.

She shouldn't be scolded for something her OCD is causing her to do, when she

has no other option (yet) of what to do about it. That would be like scolding

someone with Tourette's who is yelling our obscenities and not being able to

help it. My opinion, anyway. That is where having a therapist can be helpful,

because it seems people listen to someone they think is an expert, rather than

the parents. Sad, but often true.

Let us know how it goes with the new therapist, Sharon. So glad you found us

here. )

BJ

March 21, 2009

Chris-

Thank you so much for the advice and tips! We have tried the limiting, and need

to start that once again. She had been fairly stable with the questions for

awhile but in the last month she has started again and you know while you are

going through it it is almost like you forget what worked the last time. So

thank you for reminding me to try the limiting again.. She tends to freak when

she does not get answers but she will get over it once we set the limit with

her. And thanks for the worry box idea. I had read about that awhile ago but it

was while she was not writing well (she is very behind in writing as well) and

so I thought it would be best to wait on that one, but now she can get along ok,

so I will use that.

On the reading, that is exactly what we have been doing for the last month or

so, alternating between her and I, (I even bought a couple books that mark off

when each should read) this has helped quite a bit. Did come to a point

where he liked reading? Just curious. It is such a chore for her most of the

time. Thanks again! Hope you enjoy the book-let me know.

Sharon

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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:54:46 AM

Subject: Re: Introduction

Hi Sharon, have you and dad ever tried limiting her number of questions in any

way? Some ideas I've read here over the years are like limiting the number per

day or even per hour; having a time (or two) set aside per day for her to

ask...or I guess you could have times set aside she couldn't ask; having

something like a " worry box " where she can write it down (though she is young)

and put the paper in the box, and she can get them out later to read to you. If

she knows it's a bossy OCD/worry question, you can tell her you only answer OCD

once, etc.

OCD affected 's reading. I ended up reading to him. As time went by, I

would have him read a paragraph to me, then I'd read, then his turn, etc. It

helped him to read out loud, not that silent repeating, etc.

Just some thoughts this a.m.!

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> Chris

>

> Thanks for writing. I just wrote a long post with even more details about her

constant questioning, but to answer your question about whether she knows what

she has, yes, I have tried to talk to her about it and read her Up and Down

Worry Hill, and What to do When

March 21, 2009

BJ

Thanks for the information. I actually have both of those books and so I will

take them to the therapist for her to look at. I have scanned through them and

will look at them in more detail as well. I am hoping is up for the task,

I know she feels frustrated by what is stuck in her brain. She told us just last

night that she wishes things would not get stuck. Her most recent thing is

worrying about getting a shot, (brought on by a recent well child check which

she did not have to have any shots, but since the appointment that is all she

thinks about. To the point of saying she does not want to have a baby when she

is older because she does not want a shot. I am serious when I write this, but

the phone will ring and every time it does she is thinking she is going to have

to get a shot. My husband and I will have a conversation about our bills and she

will think she is going to have to get a shot. Her 5 year old sister is tired of

her going

through this 10-15 times a day, or more, and tries to help her, but gets

frustrated- as do we! As suggested and we have done before we will try

the limiting and worry box to see if these will help.

As far as the religion stuff at school, I knew it was part of the ocd but did

not know until I read the book, The Thought That Counts, that this is quite

common for ocd, and has a name, scrupulosity. I have told the teacher that I

felt this was part of her ocd, but the problem is that the staff and the teacher

still say they do not see any of her behaviors as ocd, and her questioning just

irritates the heck out of her teacher because she is worried about other kids

parents coming back to her about this. I have a conference with her on Wednesday

so I will talk to her again about this, and probably bring written info to her

regarding scrupulosity. Thanks again for everything.

Sharon

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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:55:13 PM

Subject: Re: Introduction

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but will have to see about the ERP. She has not really used it before but

saidshe is familiar with it and will study it further to try it with her.

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Hi, Sharon. I had read, as a suggestion, in one of the books on OCD that I have,

that if you cannot find a therapist who knows ERP and has used it successfully

before,. . If they are willing (which it sounds like your new therapist is), to

have them use a book on OCD, to work through with you, to implement the right

therapy. There are a couple of really good workbooks for OCD you might want to

try, if that sounds like something you might want to do. They are~

Helping Your Child With Ocd: A Workbook for Parents of Children With

Obsessive-Compulsiv e Disorder by Lee Fitzgibbons and Cherry Pedrick