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Hi ,

A natural safer substitute for prednisone is boswellia extract.Kerry Bone,

the herbalist who writes in Dr. 's newsletter mentioned it

in the April 1999 issue, It is an anti inflammatoty for both prevention and

relief of inflammatiom without the ulcerative effects of Steroids.

There are numerous citations for scientific/medical articles on this

including:'

Singh GB, et al, Pharmacology of an extract of Salai guggal ex-Boswellia

serrata, a new non-steroidal anti inflammatory agent. Agents and Actions

1986;18(3-4):407-412

Sharma ML, et al Effect of salai guggal ex-Boswellia serrata on cellularand

humoral immune response and leucocyte migration, Agents and

Actions1988;241(1-2):161-164

It has been used to prevent and treat brain swelling before and after brain

surgery

Winkling M et al, Boswellic Acid as an Inhibitor of Perifocal Edema in

Malignant Glioma in Man Journal of Neurooncology, 1996;30(2):39

It was found to have very low toxicity and caused no adverse effects after

chronic administration

Singh GB et al. Toxicity and safetyevaluation of boswellic acids,

Phytomedicine 1996;3(1):87-90

Recommended dosage is 200 to 400 mg of Boswellia extract, three times a

day. This extract should be standardized to have a boswellic-acid content of

about 60%

Arnold

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Hope you have better luck with the hyperbarics than we did, that is when we saw

our first seizure... I know that some say that it helps to keep them at bay, but

in our case it brought them out. We have since learned that if the child is not

able to detox on their own, hbot can push toxins in deeper.

> >

> > Has anyone had success with seizure control using steroids? If so what side

effects and how long was your child on them

> >

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Thanks Zahavi for continuing to post links and help educate us. Am really looking into this. Jayne Crocker www.LDNNow.comImportant! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking heretel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDNLDNNow are a political/pressure group of individuals dedicated to getting Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) accepted into modern medicine and trialled for the myriad of uses it shows benefit for. . From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahaviSent: 03 January 2011 15:55low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: steroids Safe Uses of Cortisol I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter.SPAMfighter has removed 1718 of my spam emails to date.Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!

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I didn't know steroids lowered the immune system!! Tristen has been on steroids

for the first time because of hives for the past 10 days and she has now been

home sick the past 2 days. If not better by tomorrow I'm taking her into the

pedi. Wish I would have known this before.

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On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:45 PM, " Missy " <monstersmom@...> wrote:

> This is kind of a dumb question and I've basically already made up my mind,

> but here goes...

>

> had a procedure on Monday and the anesthesia kicked his butt. He's

> very congested and his asthma is awful. They started him on steroids today

> and he should be done on Friday. I know the steroids lower the immune

> system even more and his doctor told us to be cautious if we go out

> anywhere. My question is, has OT at a preschool for kids with

> developmental delays on Monday. He's not in a preschool right now and not

> normally around other kids (germs) except when he gets his OT. I was

> thinking of keeping him home, just to be safe. Thoughts?

>

> Missy

>

> Mommy to , my 2 year old Monster with VACTERLS Association & PDD-NOS

>

> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jamesrobertleiby

>

> http://issuu.com/monstersmom/docs/resource_guide

>

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Well I don't think its dumb! And although we can't iscolate them from every

situation..knowing the struggles and how he is right niw I would agree that

you go with your instinct instead of risking a setback in his recovery and

skip it this time!

On Feb 9, 2011 9:54 PM, " le Mina " <daniellemina@...> wrote:

> I didn't know steroids lowered the immune system!! Tristen has been on

steroids for the first time because of hives for the past 10 days and she

has now been home sick the past 2 days. If not better by tomorrow I'm taking

her into the pedi. Wish I would have known this before.

>

> Sent from my iPod

>

> On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:45 PM, " Missy " <monstersmom@...> wrote:

>

>> This is kind of a dumb question and I've basically already made up my

mind,

>> but here goes...

>>

>> had a procedure on Monday and the anesthesia kicked his butt. He's

>> very congested and his asthma is awful. They started him on steroids

today

>> and he should be done on Friday. I know the steroids lower the immune

>> system even more and his doctor told us to be cautious if we go out

>> anywhere. My question is, has OT at a preschool for kids with

>> developmental delays on Monday. He's not in a preschool right now and not

>> normally around other kids (germs) except when he gets his OT. I was

>> thinking of keeping him home, just to be safe. Thoughts?

>>

>> Missy

>>

>> Mommy to , my 2 year old Monster with VACTERLS Association & PDD-NOS

>>

>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jamesrobertleiby

>>

>> http://issuu.com/monstersmom/docs/resource_guide

>>

>>

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Yep. Would do too. Macey gets atelectasis often after anesthesia. She neefs

Decadron after depending on the length of time. The older she got we would have

an incentive spirometer at the beside the minute she woke up and did it hourly

while awske for 3 or so days.

Ursula

On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:56 PM, le Mina <daniellemina@...> wrote:

> I didn't know steroids lowered the immune system!! Tristen has been on

steroids for the first time because of hives for the past 10 days and she has

now been home sick the past 2 days. If not better by tomorrow I'm taking her

into the pedi. Wish I would have known this before.

>

> Sent from my iPod

>

> On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:45 PM, " Missy " <monstersmom@...> wrote:

>

> > This is kind of a dumb question and I've basically already made up my mind,

> > but here goes...

> >

> > had a procedure on Monday and the anesthesia kicked his butt. He's

> > very congested and his asthma is awful. They started him on steroids today

> > and he should be done on Friday. I know the steroids lower the immune

> > system even more and his doctor told us to be cautious if we go out

> > anywhere. My question is, has OT at a preschool for kids with

> > developmental delays on Monday. He's not in a preschool right now and not

> > normally around other kids (germs) except when he gets his OT. I was

> > thinking of keeping him home, just to be safe. Thoughts?

> >

> > Missy

> >

> > Mommy to , my 2 year old Monster with VACTERLS Association & PDD-NOS

> >

> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jamesrobertleiby

> >

> > http://issuu.com/monstersmom/docs/resource_guide

> >

> >

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oh ok sorry

In a message dated 3/3/2011 10:19:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

kdeanstudios@... writes:

Yes, Janet, this was not meant for you, but for th general conversation. I

totally understand your situation, I have an inhaler I use for emergencies

also.

>

> sorry bout that but this isnt the same thing

>

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2011 7:41:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> kdeanstudios@... writes:

>

> My friend's son had mold illness, WDB, CRIS, and apergillas in the

sinuses.

> The Dr did not know better , and gave him steroids, it caused the

> aspergillas to go invasive, lost bone, and organ failure do to toxic

overload. May

> not live.

>

>

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Yes, Janet, this was not meant for you, but for th general conversation. I

totally understand your situation, I have an inhaler I use for emergencies also.

>

> sorry bout that but this isnt the same thing

>

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2011 7:41:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> kdeanstudios@... writes:

>

>

> My friend's son had mold illness, WDB, CRIS, and apergillas in the sinuses.

> The Dr did not know better , and gave him steroids, it caused the

> aspergillas to go invasive, lost bone, and organ failure do to toxic

overload. May

> not live.

>

>

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Can anyone tall me the harm that steroids does to us mold sufferers? I am

hospitalized right now and have a steroid doctor taking care of me. Steroids do

nothing but harm to me and he doesn't,t get or won,t even do research on the

subject. I just fired him, but what harm do the steroids do?

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You may want to consult with Dr. Shoemaker or contact them via the Surviving

Mold website (www.survivingmold.com).

P 68 of his book, Surviving Mold states

" one reason that I've used the expression 'giving cortisol to these patients is

like throwing gasoline on the fire,' is that extra cortisol taken by mouth in

the form of prednisone or hydrocortisone or some other substance like that can

cause a new kind of negative feedback superimposed on a dysregulated system, so

that the extra cortisol suppresses the ACTH, prevents it from normal functioning

and not uncommonly, the feedback-controlled rise of ACTH, respoinding to low

cortisol, becomes damaged. And the ACTH is the very last line of defense

against inflammation and not it is shot. These are some of the most desperately

ill people that I see and often it was the actions of well-meaning physicians

using prednisone or hydrocortisone that converted the ilness from being a minor

problem to being disabling. "

Hope that helps...

Debbie

>

> Can anyone tall me the harm that steroids does to us mold sufferers? I am

hospitalized right now and have a steroid doctor taking care of me. Steroids do

nothing but harm to me and he doesn't,t get or won,t even do research on the

subject. I just fired him, but what harm do the steroids do?

>

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Thank you I did not have the text from Shoemakers book to quote it . I did

however have Dr T statement and knew of mention in that paper too.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: debh172 <deb172@...>

Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:22:51 PM

Subject: [] Re: Steroids

You may want to consult with Dr. Shoemaker or contact them via the Surviving

Mold website (www.survivingmold.com).

P 68 of his book, Surviving Mold states

" one reason that I've used the expression 'giving cortisol to these patients is

like throwing gasoline on the fire,' is that extra cortisol taken by mouth in

the form of prednisone or hydrocortisone or some other substance like that can

cause a new kind of negative feedback superimposed on a dysregulated system, so

that the extra cortisol suppresses the ACTH, prevents it from normal functioning

and not uncommonly, the feedback-controlled rise of ACTH, respoinding to low

cortisol, becomes damaged. And the ACTH is the very last line of defense

against inflammation and not it is shot. These are some of the most desperately

ill people that I see and often it was the actions of well-meaning physicians

using prednisone or hydrocortisone that converted the ilness from being a minor

problem to being disabling. "

Hope that helps...

Debbie

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He's branded me an asthma patient, which I am not, I am sob 34/7. He is giving

me decahedron

>

> It is not the steroid inhalers if you have COPD. It is not just that, It is

> the fact we have CIRS that affects us. That it can lead to invasive

> aspergillosis ot some other invasive fungus or discriminated fugal form.

>

> What is the name of the steroid you were taking ?? Prednisone ??

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This is why when I went to the Fibro and Fatigue Center and they gave me

hydrocortisone....I got so ill. I can vouch for this 200%. I was starting to

heal and on the road to recovery. I took the hydorcortisone they gave me and was

fine for one day, then I ended up in bed for the next 7 days with a high

fever... sore throat that wouldn't abate from every traditional method I used

normally. I got off it on my own. I knew that the hydorcortisone was the only

thing that could possibly make me ill.

I was so ill the next  three weeks..............trying to recover. They told me

to go back to work or I would never go back to work....They didn't believe I was

so ill from all they gave me. They wouldn't even let me use my sick

days...........and I had 100 of them..

Kathi\\\

Re: [] Re: Steroids

Thank you I did not have the text from Shoemakers book to quote it . I did

however have Dr T statement and knew of mention in that paper too.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Show him the documents I sent to you, have him test you for HP ask for an

extended panel, High resolution CT scan NO CONTRAST material of any kind. Or

get another Dr that will listen to you.

I was wrongly diagnosed with asthma too.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: jodirego <jodirego@...>

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:38:12 AM

Subject: [] Re: Steroids

He's branded me an asthma patient, which I am not, I am sob 34/7. He is giving

me decahedron

>

> It is not the steroid inhalers if you have COPD. It is not just that, It is

> the fact we have CIRS that affects us. That it can lead to invasive

> aspergillosis ot some other invasive fungus or discriminated fugal form.

>

> What is the name of the steroid you were taking ?? Prednisone ??

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Mayleen, what is HP!

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On 2011-03-08 07:40:46 +1100 dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

>

> Show him the documents I sent to you, have him test you for HP ask for an

> extended panel, High resolution CT scan NO CONTRAST material of any kind.

> Or

> get another Dr that will listen to you.

>

> I was wrongly diagnosed with asthma too.

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>

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Hypersensitivity Pnuemonitis. I have Chronic form.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Dana S <candalah@...>

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:51:29 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Steroids

Mayleen, what is HP!

________________________

On 2011-03-08 07:40:46 +1100 dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> wrote:

>

> Show him the documents I sent to you, have him test you for HP ask for an

> extended panel, High resolution CT scan NO CONTRAST material of any kind.

> Or

> get another Dr that will listen to you.

>

> I was wrongly diagnosed with asthma too.

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>

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