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Beth,

Have you considered PANDAS as the cause of your daughter's sudden onset of OCD?

Just a thought...

Misty

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My now 11 year old daughter had a sudden onset of OCD behavior last August. It

scared the daylights out of me! She was considered a " checker " - had to

constantly " check " for marks that she thought she was making on couches, tables,

etc. She also had intrusive thoughts (i.e thinking things could come out of the

walls at night). I remember finding this list immediately and writing the last

same line that you did....I'm so scared. It is very scary!! No one wants to see

their happy little girl suddenly start struggling with life.....

My daughter also had anxiety issues, but like yours once she did something new

once or twice she was okay. Just extremely anxious leading up to the new event.

I IMMEDIATELY took my daughter to counseling. It is not something that I ever

thought I would have to do for my children but I was convinced that this was

something that we could not handle at home on our own. My daughter is a bright

girl and actually verbalized that she 'hated having to check all the time' while

in tears about it....I knew this was out of our control.

We did therapy twice weekly for 6 weeks and then moved it back to once a week

for another month and then once a month, I think twice.....She responded

extremely well to the therapy and learning to 'boss back' her thoughts. We used

the " What to do When you Worry too Much " workbook at home and that also helped.

We have not needed to go back to the therapist since October (fingers crossed).

However I am still part of this list and learn more everyday from the people

here. I know she'll always have anxiety and I am very in tune to how she

responds to stress....if there is the slightest change I will be getting her

right back to the therapist.

I would consider us very LUCKY, we never did see a pyschiatrist or put her on

medication, the therapy was enough....I believe she would be considered a mild

OCD case - maybe more of a generalized anxiety disorder. She now reponds to the

idea of 'what is logical', but when she was in the midst of the storm in August

" logic " didn't help her from completing the compulsion.

This was a whole new world for both my husband and me....neither of us have any

issues in this arena. My mom does admit to a lot of anxiety though so there is

something to say for genetics.... .

Sorry this got long winded ~ Just thought I would share my story. This group is

a lifesaver to many...glad you found us.

Beth, MI

>>> nicole grigg <nmgriggyahoo (DOT) com> 4/9/2009 11:05 AM >>>

Hi,

My six year old daughter has had some anxiety since an arly age. She always had

issues with clothing and new experiences were very difficult for her. Once she

experienced something a few times (ex. two days of swimmimg lessons), she seemed

O.K. In kind and 1st grade she complained of not wanting to go on the bus. This

past weekend she confessed that she often needs to touch thngs and do things

over and over. She keeps finding things on her food and wanted to keep her hair

when she got her haircut. She is now having extremen anxiety before school and

does not want me to leave for work. The psychologist said has OCD and the

pediatrician put her on 5mg of prozak. I knew she had difficulty with change,

but now she is openly touching things over and over again and does not want to

go to school. It is so painful to watch. This is new to my husband and I. Does

anyone have any advise or success story? I am so scared for my daughter.

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I have read a lot about it here and have considered it. Both of my kids are

what I consider " strep kids " . They have had it multiple times over the years.

When we had our crazy sudden onset last August she had not been sick at all ~

and I didn't really understand or know about PANDAS. So I didn't have her

tested for strep at that time.....we've been doing so well now that I haven't

thought to much about it for her.....

Beth

>>> md l 4/10/2009 12:17 AM >>>

Beth,

Have you considered PANDAS as the cause of your daughter's sudden onset of OCD?

Just a thought...

Misty

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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:23 AM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

My now 11 year old daughter had a sudden onset of OCD behavior last August. It

scared the daylights out of me! She was considered a " checker " - had to

constantly " check " for marks that she thought she was making on couches, tables,

etc. She also had intrusive thoughts (i.e thinking things could come out of the

walls at night). I remember finding this list immediately and writing the last

same line that you did....I'm so scared. It is very scary!! No one wants to see

their happy little girl suddenly start struggling with life.....

My daughter also had anxiety issues, but like yours once she did something new

once or twice she was okay. Just extremely anxious leading up to the new event.

I IMMEDIATELY took my daughter to counseling. It is not something that I ever

thought I would have to do for my children but I was convinced that this was

something that we could not handle at home on our own. My daughter is a bright

girl and actually verbalized that she 'hated having to check all the time' while

in tears about it....I knew this was out of our control.

We did therapy twice weekly for 6 weeks and then moved it back to once a week

for another month and then once a month, I think twice.....She responded

extremely well to the therapy and learning to 'boss back' her thoughts. We used

the " What to do When you Worry too Much " workbook at home and that also helped.

We have not needed to go back to the therapist since October (fingers crossed).

However I am still part of this list and learn more everyday from the people

here. I know she'll always have anxiety and I am very in tune to how she

responds to stress....if there is the slightest change I will be getting her

right back to the therapist.

I would consider us very LUCKY, we never did see a pyschiatrist or put her on

medication, the therapy was enough....I believe she would be considered a mild

OCD case - maybe more of a generalized anxiety disorder. She now reponds to the

idea of 'what is logical', but when she was in the midst of the storm in August

" logic " didn't help her from completing the compulsion.

This was a whole new world for both my husband and me....neither of us have any

issues in this arena. My mom does admit to a lot of anxiety though so there is

something to say for genetics.... .

Sorry this got long winded ~ Just thought I would share my story. This group is

a lifesaver to many...glad you found us.

Beth, MI

>>> nicole grigg <nmgriggyahoo (DOT) com> 4/9/2009 11:05 AM >>>

Hi,

My six year old daughter has had some anxiety since an arly age. She always had

issues with clothing and new experiences were very difficult for her. Once she

experienced something a few times (ex. two days of swimmimg lessons), she seemed

O.K. In kind and 1st grade she complained of not wanting to go on the bus. This

past weekend she confessed that she often needs to touch thngs and do things

over and over. She keeps finding things on her food and wanted to keep her hair

when she got her haircut. She is now having extremen anxiety before school and

does not want me to leave for work. The psychologist said has OCD and the

pediatrician put her on 5mg of prozak. I knew she had difficulty with change,

but now she is openly touching things over and over again and does not want to

go to school. It is so painful to watch. This is new to my husband and I. Does

anyone have any advise or success story? I am so scared for my daughter.

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Hi ,

 

This e-mail has helped me more than you know.  We do have my daughter in therapy

(we really have just recognized this as OCD) and are looking for a new med as

the prozac seemed to make things worse.  After hearing her tortuted screaming

for an hour before school, and having to get her physically in the building, I

really need to have something to hold onto and that things can turn out O.K. for

her.  I am so happy to hear that your daughter is doing well.  That must be the

best feeling in the world!

 

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My six year old daughter has had some anxiety since an arly age.

> She always had issues with clothing and new experiences were very

> difficult for her. Once she experienced something a few times (ex.

> two days of swimmimg lessons), she seemed O.K. In kind and 1st

> grade she complained of not wanting to go on the bus. This past

> weekend she confessed that she often needs to touch thngs and do

> things over and over. She keeps finding things on her food and

> wanted to keep her hair when she got her haircut. She is now

> having extremen anxiety before school and does not want me to leave

> for work. The psychologist said has OCD and the pediatrician put

> her on 5mg of prozak. I knew she had difficulty with change, but

> now she is openly touching things over and over again and does not

> want to go to school. It is so painful to watch. This is new to

> my husband and I. Does anyone have any advise or success story? I

> am so scared for my daughter.

>

>

>

>

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Is it different from disability or SSI here? Stormy

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what about in the US?   I've been searching forever for something on this. 

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I just wanted to tell you that I really feel for you and understand exactly what

you're going through. I have to tell you that you are doing the best you can

and that is enough! You do what you need to do to get through this and you are

not alone!!

Donna

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Donna, My 13 yr old daughter does the same to me at bedtime. Total defiance of

any bed-time rule. She says she cannot go to sleep if she is anxious and she is

always anxious. I give her benadryl to knock her out around 10:30 which

sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. She lashes out with physical violence,

throwing things, and abusive words towards me. My husband works 5 nights a week

and on the nights he is here he cannot contain his temper with her defiant

behavior. I try to calm them both down but things usually escalate to my husband

dragging her into bed screaming and crying. I feel like my family is

disintegrating before my eyes. My husband tells me I set no boundaries for her.

I do, but she refuses to comply. Just to get her to shower once every 5 days is

an all day chore. I am so exhausted most nights I just let her fall asleep with

the TV on. She stays up till 2 AM most nights because she is afraid of bad

dreams. We are in OCD hell here.

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Just wanted you to know that you have company in OCD hell if it's any

consolation. We have some good times, but my 9 year old daughter seems to be

slipping again. She was " getting better " although I think most of the recent

improvement was my husband getting sucked in and accommodating her rituals

because he cannot stand to see her upset. " Well, " he tells me, " obviously she

was upset tonight because you did not give her the same size piece of soap I did

or you refused to give her more soap after she asked you to take the liquid soap

away (and she had been washing for 30 minutes or more with her arms covered with

a thick lather up to the shoulders). " Clearly, it just my poor parenting rather

than her OCD that is to blame. Easy for him to say when he is in Wisconsin with

his family and our younger daughter, and I am home alone with her screaming at

me.

I know he is under stress too as his nearly 80 year old mother is recovering

from a broken knee cap, but he thinks he has it all figured out. I am supposed

to be a perky well-adjusted supermom when my daughter with OCD spends 20 minutes

or more arguing with me every time I tell her she needs to use the bathroom and

30 or more minutes washing 3-4x daily (while I am supposed to put up with her

verbal tirades, show up the minute she wants help, and agree that I, not her

OCD, am the problem), my almost 7 year old is whining and complaining that her

sister gets preferential treatment all the time, and my husband is dispensing

his wisdom on my shortcomings. I have essentially no outlets except you ladies

and one friend here, but my husband finds time to go to the 60th birthday party

of an acquaintance and unburden himself to several colleagues at work, however,

he doesn't want to listen to me. I don't feel like we have a marriage so much

any more--more like

a war zone. I feel sad for the daughter of another friend who cannot go to her

first farm sleepaway camp as she has an infection and must take antibiotics

three times a day (and this just before her birthday)--and yet it feels so far

removed from the reality of our days. This child's mother used to be a closer

friend of mine but she has been too busy with work and her own life to really

have any clue how bad my daughter's or our summer has been.

It has been one to one and a half months since our daughter has used any

bathroom outside our home, and she insists she doesn't want to and won't do so,

but sees no problem with going to school in the fall. My husband accuses me of

being too pessimistic when I tell him we need a plan B in case she is not able

to attend school. He can be very supportive of everyone and anyone--except me!

Sorry for ranting, but I was almost in tears reading to my daughter tonight.

, mom to Lynn

>

> Subject: (unknown)

> To:

> Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:51 PM

> Donna, My 13 yr old daughter does the

> same to me at bedtime. Total defiance of any bed-time rule.

> She says she cannot go to sleep if she is anxious and she is

> always anxious. I give her benadryl to knock her out around

> 10:30 which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. She

> lashes out with physical violence, throwing things, and

> abusive words towards me. My husband works 5 nights a week

> and on the nights he is here he cannot contain his temper

> with her defiant behavior. I try to calm them both down but

> things usually escalate to my husband dragging her into bed

> screaming and crying. I feel like my family is

> disintegrating before my eyes. My husband tells me I set no

> boundaries for her. I do, but she refuses to comply. Just to

> get her to shower once every 5 days is an all day chore. I

> am so exhausted most nights I just let her fall asleep with

> the TV on. She stays up till 2 AM most nights because she is

> afraid of bad dreams. We are in OCD hell here.

>

>

>      

>

>

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I'm sorry you are going through this.  But I wanted to recommend that you give

her melatonin at bedtime instead of Benadryl.  You can get it just about

anywhere and it's completely safe.  Many children who have sleep issues take

melatonin.  We use the 1mg sublingual tablets by Source Naturals and my 6yo

daughter with Asperger's and OCD really likes them and takes them willingly

every single night.  She is asleep within 30 minutes.  Before that she was up

most of the night crying and fighting.  It was hell.  Melatonin has changed our

lives.  Start at 1mg and go up to 2mg if needed. 

Good luck!

Misty

 

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Subject: (unknown)

 

Donna, My 13 yr old daughter does the same to me at bedtime. Total defiance of

any bed-time rule. She says she cannot go to sleep if she is anxious and she is

always anxious. I give her benadryl to knock her out around 10:30 which

sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. She lashes out with physical violence,

throwing things, and abusive words towards me. My husband works 5 nights a week

and on the nights he is here he cannot contain his temper with her defiant

behavior. I try to calm them both down but things usually escalate to my husband

dragging her into bed screaming and crying. I feel like my family is

disintegrating before my eyes. My husband tells me I set no boundaries for her.

I do, but she refuses to comply. Just to get her to shower once every 5 days is

an all day chore. I am so exhausted most nights I just let her fall asleep with

the TV on. She stays up till 2 AM most nights because she is afraid of bad

dreams. We are in OCD hell here.

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Oh, this sounds amazingly frustrating. We had to do family therapy together,

and I had to insist that my hubby read a book (which he hated every second of,

and was cranky for weeks!) in order to get him to understand that accomodating

Meg was the absolute worst thing for her long term. We had to agree on what

would be accomodated short term while we worked on small things, and how we

would pull out. It's funny - as the therapy process continues, Meg will be the

first to tell us that " we are listening to OCD " too. Sometimes, she is frantic,

but will get even angrier if we " help " her. The phrase I used for a long time

was " we are a family in crisis " . I did not feel that this was an exaggeration,

and used it to get everyone's attention.

Clearly, you already understand the vile nature of OCD, and how it can capture

your child and your family's life. It is not the child's fault, any more than a

cancer would be. But happily, they can find a path out, if they are willing to

work very hard, and if everyone in the family can get to a point of acceptance

and education about how to best help the child. Your goal as a parent, is

always to get the child to a point where they can overcome the disease and live

an independent and happy life.

I apologize for not knowing this, as I have read your posts before - but have

you found a really good pediatric ERP therapist?

I feel so badly for you - it takes an incredibly strong personality to be able

to handle the stress coming from all sides. Sounds like you have it - but I

still hope you are ok. I went to talk to someone myself, as I found keeping my

confidence up, was critical to the entire family.

All my best - in NC

>

>

> Just wanted you to know that you have company in OCD hell if it's any

consolation. We have some good times, but my 9 year old daughter seems to be

slipping again. She was " getting better " although I think most of the recent

improvement was my husband getting sucked in and accommodating her rituals

because he cannot stand to see her upset. " Well, " he tells me, " obviously she

was upset tonight because you did not give her the same size piece of soap I did

or you refused to give her more soap after she asked you to take the liquid soap

away (and she had been washing for 30 minutes or more with her arms covered with

a thick lather up to the shoulders). " Clearly, it just my poor parenting rather

than her OCD that is to blame. >

> It has been one to one and a half months since our daughter has used any

bathroom outside our home, and she insists she doesn't want to and won't do so,

but sees no problem with going to school in the fall. My husband accuses me of

being too pessimistic when I tell him we need a plan B in case she is not able

to attend school. He can be very supportive of everyone and anyone--except me!

>

>

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I agree. Melatonin saved my sanity and my son's. He is 6 and this past december

did not sleep more than 3 hours or so a night for 3+ weeks. I gsave him 1.5 mg

melatonin and he slept. He is very grateful to be sleeping again. He even told

me a few months ago that it feels so good to be able to sleep!

>

> I'm sorry you are going through this.  But I wanted to recommend that you give

her melatonin at bedtime instead of Benadryl.  You can get it just about

anywhere and it's completely safe.  Many children who have sleep issues take

melatonin.  We use the 1mg sublingual tablets by Source Naturals and my 6yo

daughter with Asperger's and OCD really likes them and takes them willingly

every single night.  She is asleep within 30 minutes.  Before that she was up

most of the night crying and fighting.  It was hell.  Melatonin has changed our

lives.  Start at 1mg and go up to 2mg if needed. 

>

> Good luck!

> Misty

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:51:21 PM

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>  

> Donna, My 13 yr old daughter does the same to me at bedtime. Total defiance of

any bed-time rule. She says she cannot go to sleep if she is anxious and she is

always anxious. I give her benadryl to knock her out around 10:30 which

sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. She lashes out with physical violence,

throwing things, and abusive words towards me. My husband works 5 nights a week

and on the nights he is here he cannot contain his temper with her defiant

behavior. I try to calm them both down but things usually escalate to my husband

dragging her into bed screaming and crying. I feel like my family is

disintegrating before my eyes. My husband tells me I set no boundaries for her.

I do, but she refuses to comply. Just to get her to shower once every 5 days is

an all day chore. I am so exhausted most nights I just let her fall asleep with

the TV on. She stays up till 2 AM most nights because she is afraid of bad

dreams. We are in OCD hell here.

>

>

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Maybe it depends on the cause of not being able to sleep. My bipolar dd was only

able to sleep for 2 hours a day for 5 weeks straight when manic. Melatonin did

not help her sleep but neither did Ambien. Stormy

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I agree. Melatonin saved my sanity and my son's. He is 6 and this past december

did not sleep more than 3 hours or so a night for 3+ weeks. I gsave him 1.5 mg

melatonin and he slept. He is very grateful to be sleeping again. He even told

me a few months ago that it feels so good to be able to sleep!

>

> I'm sorry you are going through this.  But I wanted to recommend that you give

her melatonin at bedtime instead of Benadryl.  You can get it just about

anywhere and it's completely safe.  Many children who have sleep issues take

melatonin.  We use the 1mg sublingual tablets by Source Naturals and my 6yo

daughter with Asperger's and OCD really likes them and takes them willingly

every single night.  She is asleep within 30 minutes.  Before that she was up

most of the night crying and fighting.  It was hell.  Melatonin has changed our

lives.  Start at 1mg and go up to 2mg if needed. 

>

> Good luck!

> Misty

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Tresse DeLorenzo <tressede@.. .>

> To: @ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:51:21 PM

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>  

> Donna, My 13 yr old daughter does the same to me at bedtime. Total defiance of

any bed-time rule. She says she cannot go to sleep if she is anxious and she is

always anxious. I give her benadryl to knock her out around 10:30 which

sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. She lashes out with physical violence,

throwing things, and abusive words towards me. My husband works 5 nights a week

and on the nights he is here he cannot contain his temper with her defiant

behavior. I try to calm them both down but things usually escalate to my husband

dragging her into bed screaming and crying. I feel like my family is

disintegrating before my eyes. My husband tells me I set no boundaries for her.

I do, but she refuses to comply. Just to get her to shower once every 5 days is

an all day chore. I am so exhausted most nights I just let her fall asleep with

the TV on. She stays up till 2 AM most nights because she is afraid of bad

dreams. We are in OCD hell here.

>

>

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Hang in there, ladies! Our daughters are all so similar in many ways. I'm so

grateful you all are out there and think you are all wonderful parents. Don't

let anyone tell you otherwise! You understand! It is so isolating to have a

child with OCD since so few people DO understand. , I can completely

relate to your story about that other mother...I ran into a school mom and her

perfectly charming, " normal " daughter at Target recently and the mom said " Oh,

we've been having such a wonderful summer! " and sincerely meant it! How do you

tell her, " Well, my kid is eating only bread, refusing to go anywhere, calling

her siblings idiots and saying she hates them all the time, refusing her

medicine, etc? " Other people without this problem just don't get it. I feel

very disappointed as a parent sometimes...being a parent is so much tougher for

us OCD moms...almost like we were sold a bill of goods about having kids! I

know that's not true...I love all 4 of my kids, it's just than the one with OCD

is so difficult to parent. I get tired of the rages and tantrums, sleepless

nights, screaming fits, etc. I feel guilty for getting upset and feeling like

this as I know it is not her fault, it's OCD. There is another child at my

daughter's school battling cancer right now and I feel like I have no room to

complain...there is hope for my girl with OCD...less hope for a child with

cancer. It is just really tough.

>

>

> Just wanted you to know that you have company in OCD hell if it's any

consolation. We have some good times, but my 9 year old daughter seems to be

slipping again. She was " getting better " although I think most of the recent

improvement was my husband getting sucked in and accommodating her rituals

because he cannot stand to see her upset. " Well, " he tells me, " obviously she

was upset tonight because you did not give her the same size piece of soap I did

or you refused to give her more soap after she asked you to take the liquid soap

away (and she had been washing for 30 minutes or more with her arms covered with

a thick lather up to the shoulders). " Clearly, it just my poor parenting rather

than her OCD that is to blame. Easy for him to say when he is in Wisconsin with

his family and our younger daughter, and I am home alone with her screaming at

me.

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Hi ,

Sorry you and your daughter are going through this.  My daughter is 10 and has

PANDAS.  She takes 250mg of zithromax everyday.  I am wondering what antibiotic

they use to treat Lyme these days?  How long do they prescribe it for longterm

treatment?  I hope this treatment works for your daughter.

Best wishes,

Peggy

Subject: (unknown)

To:

Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 4:19 PM

 

My daughter has OCD and Lyme Disease.  We are treating her for Lyme with hope

that it will help (hopefully eliminate) her OCD.  She also has a constant

headache and is mostly housebound because of that so we would be treating her

for Lyme anyway.

We are doing the ERP therapy to help in case her OCD is here to stay and to help

her cope in the mean time.

There are two groups of doctors involved in Lyme.  The more predominant group

does not believe OCD can be caused by Lyme or that Lyme can be treated long

term.  They also think Lyme is rare and easily treated.  The other group

believes that Lyme is hard to treat and that long term treatment can help.  It

is a huge controversy.  One group believes there are risks to long term

antibiotics and the other group believes there are risks to undertreating Lyme. 

Each person has to decide for themselves which way to go. 

My daughter had a tick bite and her clearly recognized OCD behaviour and her

headaches started right after that.  Before that, she did have a few habits that

might have been normal preschool behaviour or early hints of OCD.  She liked to

wear a swimsuit at all times, even under her clothes, and she took off all of

her clothes to go to the bathroom.  I didn't think it was anything to worry

about at the time.  After the tick bite, she started having compulsions that

clearly caused her anxiety if she couldn't do them. 

It remains to be seen whether her Lyme treatment will lessen or eliminate her

OCD.  Her pdoc thought she had something else going on besides OCD because she

would rage, too, at times.  While she hasn't seemed to improve much from her

Lyme treatment, her raging did stop right away when we started her on

antibiotics.  That gives me hope that the OCD will be helped by her treatment

also.

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I agree. There are some moms who have really benefitted from the cookies I endorse. they've seen an increase in their production and they feel good--the cookies I refer to are quite nutritious as cookies go and moms are motivated to eat them cause they taste good! Does a mom need these cookies to breastfeed? of course not! Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comBreastfeeding Between the Lines: http://second9months.wordpress.com/--- On Thu, 10/28/10,

Emery wrote:Subject: (unknown)To: Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 3:47 PM

Yes, Becky, easy to make (but mothers have reported to me that some of the ingredients are kind of hard to find at their normal stores), but if you're working 40 hours a week maybe it's not so easy to find the time.Some moms are eating fast food, or not at all, on their lunch breaks so they have time to get pumping in. Calorie-dense cookies may be a yummy way to boost their milk supply. As we all know, mothers who are pumping and working sometimes struggle with keeping their supply going. The baby is the best pump you've got and when you have to substitute a baby with a pump, sometimes a little boost via nutrition (or supplements if moms would rather go that route) is helpful. Some moms would rather

buy the oatmeal bars, but other mothers prefer more nutritious (no preservatives or artificial colors or flavors) foods. That is where the cookies from Making Thyme come in....they are nutritious AND preservative/artificial ingredient-free. To each his own, though....some people prefer processed foods since they are cheaper. baby beloved, inc.555 Mid Towne NESuite 100Grand Rapids, MI 49503Ph. Fax www.babybelovedinc.com

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Hi, if you are just there temporarily I would recommend having a blood test done every 2nd week after being there, including 21 days after you have returned as the virus reaches peak levels between 14 and 21 days after being infected, however, if you have already taken oral precautions then the virus may not be picked up in a blood test. This is what we do concerning malaria, the test is extremely simple and we are usually given the results within an hour of having the test, perhaps contact your own doctor here and also find out there if they are prepared to do that, which I am sure they are.I am not sure about any homeopathic deterents for mosquitoes, but I do know that they do not like citronella, so citronella oils and candels, and even burning citrus rind & peel deters mosquitoes, and of course a mosquito net at night time is essential! Having air movement like a fan or airconditioner on will also keep them away. We have done a couple of fishing trips to Lake Kariba in Africa, which is mosquito heaven! Hope this helps.Regards, Colleen

hello all, please advise me i am in lahore where there is an epidemic of dengue virus which spreads thru the dengue mosquitoes if anyone has any idea how protection can be sought through this esp for my asd child who is six i would appreciate any advice.

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