Re: (unknown)

September 17, 2000

In a message dated 9/17/00 9:33:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sethian@...

writes:

<< What is this thing about a 21 day challenge? I haven't heard about that

before! >>

,

Have you ever heard the theory that it takes 21 days to make or break a

habit? Some people apply that to Tae-bo. The challenge is to do Tae-Bo 21

days straight to make it a habit. Any form of Tae-Bo counts, even the 8

minute tape.

September 17, 2000

What is this thing about a 21 day challenge? I haven't heard about that before!

-----Original Message-----From: Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 9:07 PMTo: tae-bo_onegroupsSubject: (unknown)

I finished day 7 of my 21 day challange today.Good luck to everyone else doing a challange!!!As Deb has said: "Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step."Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

October 15, 2000

In a message dated 10/14/00 11:50:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tbgymmie@... writes:

<< Sandie

who is glad to have a working 'puter again & can be back with all her

friends!!!!!! >>

Hey Sandie!!

I am so glad to see that your computer problems are over! It's nice to see

you around here!! It was great to see you again in LA!

October 15, 2000

In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:50:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tbgymmie@... writes:

<< Hi Gang!!!!

I'm back and to stay!!!! >>

Yeah, Sandie! I'm glad you are with us now.

Elena, who really enjoyed rooming and working out with Sandie.

October 15, 2000

Hey Dave,

IMO, the group is mainly Tae-Bo, but also for those times when we need to

vent/talk whatever. I don't mind if you either tell us here or give us an

idea and then we can go personally to e-mail. I do hear you when you say

you don't have anyone to talk to (whether it is this one issue or any

other).

Sandie

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>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: 15 Oct 2000 12:40:13 -0700

>

>Ok Boss, thanks

>

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September 14, 2001

Can we really know anything?

February 8, 2002

Dear Anne ,

Thank you for your wonderful courage and honesty. Here's a thought:

What you truly are is neither male nor female; it is beyond the body,

beyond the mind, free of all limitations. It just witnesses the whole

show.

The appearance, however, is that you are (temporarily) inhabiting a

woman's body, with all that goes along with that. Think of it as

camping out. It is not what you are at all, at all.

How can I know that it's true? Well it seems true, and it never

varies. It's always 'there' when I question.

Love

Katharine

February 8, 2002

I don't say much in this group.....but here's all I can think to respond to your openness....WOW! I think it's wonderful you found the truth in you and the peace that comes with that.

Laurie O.

(unknown)

Hi!Today I did The Work and I discovered the most painfulbelief I have yet been able to produce: I don't wantto be a woman. Painful because I am - not a lot I cando about it.So many memories came back about adolescence. Notwanting to be like my mother (and have my father speakto her like he did), not wanting to be weak,dependent, emotional and many other things Iapparently thought a woman was.As I started investigating tension that I have alwayscarried in my chest started to ache unbearably. I sawhow I have resisted my sex my whole life and theamount of confusion and endless layers of alternating anger, jealousy and self pity was quite stunning. Nowonder I have created a situation in my body where Iam having difficulties getting pregnant.Connected to it was another belief: I am not womanenough. My proof: My breasts are the wrong size, Ican't have children, I am not pretty enough, I havetoo much temper, I am too much in the head.... I couldgo on.It's insane. All this suffering out believing thingsmy parents were saying and the countless messages inmy culture. I never stopped and investigated.Right now as I am writing my body is more relaxed thanI can remember ever and energy is still moving. I amso grateful for this Work.Love Anne _____________________________________________________Afstemningen om Danish Music Awards 2002foretages i år i Yahoo! Grupper Besøg afstemningsgruppen på www.musicawards.dkHusk at du skal bruge et Yahoo! ID for at stemme

June 28, 2002

well....only if you say 'mother may I'

-- (unknown)

COULD I PLEASE UNSUSCRIBE TO LOVING WHAT IS

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June 29, 2002

simon says " go to the link at that bottom of the email..... but only if you

want to! "

(unknown)

COULD I PLEASE UNSUSCRIBE TO LOVING WHAT IS

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July 16, 2002

Margaret,

I've been lurking for a while now and I am amused by what I am responding to. I

resonated so much with this post I had to look at the senders name again

thinking I had sent off this e-mail myself unkowingly at some point :-) This is

so true for me as well.

In reading it what comes to my mind is instead of doing a sheet on " I shouldn't

drink coffee " and " I should exercise more " I can try:

If I drink coffee it means that............

If I don't excercise it means that........

Then do the worksheets on what comes up.

How do I know I should be drinking coffee? Because I am.

How do I know I shouldn't be excercising? Because I am not.

I recently had to do a lot of walking and spent long days working. I found out

I had the energy I required for what was needed. Prior to this I did

worksheets, on my body being tired and not having the energy I needed, and I

discovered it was my thoughts that were tiring me. I was so tense around

protecting myself and my energy I had little left to do anything else but rest!!

I substituted " thoughts " for " body " in the worksheets e.g. My body doesn't have

the energy it needs - my thoughts don't have the energy I need (or my body

needs).

Doreen

This morning I find myself doing the work for the zillionth time

on " I shouldn't drink coffee " and " I should exercise more " . I get a

little release but it is as short-lived sometimes as my next breath.

In writing this now I realize I rarely ask myself what's the worst

that could happen if I continue drinking coffee and not exercising.

I'll never get proper energy

My body will always feel achy and old

I'll die never knowing what it feels like to feel good in a body, to

feel alive and vital

I'll always feel 'less than' these ones who can get their act

together physically - like the movie stars, like Gwyneth Paltrow who

does power yoga six times a week. (don't laugh - I'm laughing)

I wonder why I can never get an exercise plan going. I've tried that

oodles of times and it never works. I've given up coffee oodles of

times and I'm back again in a week or two.

In my sane moments I can see it's all about accepting, loving myself

when I do these things. And sometimes I can get it that I'm not the

doer.

Feeling rather unenlightened around this and lighter just airing it

this morning.

Love, Margaret

August 26, 2002

>

" People who do not use their real names are uncaring.? Is that true?

People who do not use their real names don't " give a shit " . Is that

true?

You can't trust people that do not use their real names, is that

true? "

Hi April,

The above assumptions do seem wierd and of course they are not true.

But those are the thoughts that came up for me. They were a lead in

to what was really triggering me. I perceive these people ( this is

my story) as impersonal, cold, uncaring, gutsy, strong, fearless, not

looking for approval. I have been heavily conditioned to be the

opposite - nice, approval seeking, 'caring'. Anything that appears

impersonal or uncaring is not allowed to express itself in me (i

wouldn't have been loved when i was small if i expressed this

energy).

That's why 'impersonal' triggers me - I don't allow myself the

luxury and freedom to be that way.

Maybe the piece I wrote wasn't very clear - it's because I could feel

the emotional charge of the core belief for me.

Someone else could have a judgement on 'people should sign their

names' and it could lead to a different place - a different core

belief for them.

I now realize I actually admire these people. I'm the last to know!

Love, Margaret

Mado..

>

> I am new but something seems amiss..the basic question.. I may have

> misinterpreted your note, it appears that the name thing is of

bother, I

> can't be sure. There were assumptions that gave rise to emotions.

That

> is always drama. So I have to ask some questions.

>

> People who do not use their real names are uncaring.? Is that true?

>

> People who do not use their real names don't " give a shit " . Is that

> true?

>

> You can't trust people that do not use their real names, is that

true?

>

> How about..another person is upset about people not using their real

> names?

>

> Is that true? I really don't know! It could be a drama that is

> covering some other deal.

>

> Things just are as they are. Not good, not bad.

>

> Do you use your name to be " caring " ? Do you use it to be trusted?

It

> can go on and on. The old " switcheroo " sometimes helps to put

things

> into perspective. I can say that for me all the above are lies.

>

> I set my computer up with a signature that just goes on. I don't

even

> sign my name. It is just there. It is there no matter what I

write.

>

> April

>

August 26, 2002

Margaret,

" Impersonal " triggers you.I am honestly trying to figure this out OK?

LOL..

OK so you feel that if you are not " trying to please " you are

impersonal? That is obviously a lie! LOL. so I suppose more finding of

lies will open up your " real work " .

You sound very open to listening, that is damned personal to me! LOL.

I have been to therapy for a L-O-N-G time for the " codependent " stuff.I

think I can understand what you are " fighting " .

April

August 27, 2002

Margaret,

I agree with much of what you said.I do think however that the cycle is

far more complex. I " tried to be this or that for approval " but NO ONE

is really always GOOD. So there is the problem. We ARE " BAD " we ARE

" inconsiderate " we are " irresponsible " . Because we hate those things in

ourselves we tighten the strings of " control " .so we make more mistakes

as the limitations are now even harder to meet. Then we cycle in the

grand evidence. We " see " it in " others " .ewwww.they are " bad " ..lol...so

then when I do it..I am " badder " ..I should just know better!

No I get it..but I think the deal is not so much that we have to accept

that it is OK to " make mistakes " as it is that we HAVE made them and it

is OK... it is OK to forgive ourselves. If we forgive the past then

there is no reason to control the future. We will forgive ourselves

anyway and we are not afraid that we will become " sociopaths " .lol..

Actually this is an important thing to consider..if we had such people

in our formative years.those that were very narcissistic or sociopaths

in a sense then it is hard to see the boundary lines. We were not

taught them and much is muddy. So finding the lie and " getting over it "

and not dragging drama along for evidence is a cleaner way out. The

fear that we might be hurt even by our own thinking is scary. That is

just what we do..

We think and hurt ourselves all the time. Here is the " short work "

LOL. just stop it! LOL.

April

August 28, 2002

Dear April,

I had a reaction to something you wrote earlier - I've been wanting

to push it under the carpet and not acknowledge it to you but that's

not working because it's still 'at' me a bit.

You wrote:

" so I suppose more finding of

lies will open up your " real work " . "

I felt judgement towards you for implying I wasn't doing my real work

when I believed most arrogantly that I was.

When I had a look at this - God, I could sure find where I wasn't

doing my real work.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention - my reaction to your

words brought me in to me more clearly.

Margaret

-- In Loving-what-is@y..., " April " <notetoapril@c...> wrote:

> Margaret,

>

> " Impersonal " triggers you.I am honestly trying to figure this out

OK?

> LOL..

>

> OK so you feel that if you are not " trying to please " you are

> impersonal? That is obviously a lie! LOL. so I suppose more

finding of

> lies will open up your " real work " .

>

> You sound very open to listening, that is damned personal to me!

LOL.

> I have been to therapy for a L-O-N-G time for the " codependent "

stuff.I

> think I can understand what you are " fighting " .

>

> April

>

September 9, 2002

Who else knows how special my Dad was!

TA: Who else knows how special YOU ARE !

September 9, 2002

Dear maryellis83,

You asked for feedback. I loved seeing your Work unfold so naturally.

It makes me realize so many posts to the LWI board are basically long

" answers " to Question # 3; in other words, long entries of static or spinning

emotional states. It's so great when we can get a handle on the background

statement (usually a false belief) that got us into that state in the first

place, and inquire as to its Truth (Qs 1 & 2) and so on (Q 4 and TAs).

No one likes the answers to Question 3 (that is, there's no peaceful reason

to keep believing in thoughts which bring on these emotional states); but we

often spin around anyway. The human condition...

Thanks for sharing your Work. It's so clear.

Onewoman927

>

> I lost my Dad?

> 1 Is it true? Yes - he was alive and I could share things with him

> and now I can't.

> 2 Can I absolutely know that I lost my Dad? (after a while ..

> softly....) No, he's still here inside me.

> 3 How do I react .. I feel sad, bereft, self pity - poor me, nothing

> can help. I feel other people have something I don't have, I tell

> myself that life is hard. I want to curl up in a ball and not have to

> work. I beat myself for not getting any work done. I feel helpless. I

> want to be comforted. I don't listen to other people properly. I get

> caught up in my own little world of tragedy. I want people to feel

> sorry for me and be kind to me. I feel lonely.

> 4 Who would I be without that thought? Joyful, remembering the love

> and laughter I enjoyed with my Dad. Lighter. Aware of the sweetness

> of the intimacy between us. Gentler on myself.

> TA I didn't lose my Dad - he's still here inside my head.

> I lost myself - is truer.

> My Dad lost me - is truer. I 'disappeared' off travelling with the

> new age travellers and he didn't see me for the last 18 months of his

> life.

>

> I still feel tearful but am not fighting it as much.

>

> Any feedback/ suggestions welcomed.

> love

>

September 10, 2002

Hi Onewoman

Thanks for the feedback.

Last night I got to the thought that was really causing my

distress " I shouldn't miss my Dad " . I guess i was trying to be all

spiritual and over him, but I DO miss him - and that's okay!

I shouldn't miss my Dad.

1 Is it true - what's the reality? I do miss him.

3 How do I react when i attach to the thought that I shouldn't miss

him? I feel miserable, a failure, separated, isolated, downhearted,

heavy.

4 Who would I be ... just a woman missing her Dad. Lighter, freer.

TA I should miss my Dad - yeah! absolutely!

I notice that when I'm doing the owrk on a subject, when I really get

to the statement that's stressing me, the turnaround has much more

power and reality in it.

xx

E

July 18, 2004

Hi,

Maybe is like me.I guess GERD plays a role in asthma.

may be the test he has done is spirometry,they say something like

FEV etc,etc,I guess it may not be peakflow meter since you

say they given printout.hope he breaths well so that he can

get into some other trouble,LOL!

Many Greetings,

Senthil Kumar.S.

> Hi, I am new to this group. My six-year-old, , has been

> diagnosed with asthma since he was 3 or 4 years old. It's pretty

> mild, and well-controlled by Flovent, Singulair, Nasonex and Pepcid.

> GERD is a trigger, as is the cold virus. He's actually pretty

> asymtpomatic until cold season, but he needs to be on prednisone at

> least once a year.

>

> I just have a question. had his six-month appointment a

> couple weeks ago, and they had him breathe into something that gave a

> printout. They'd never done this before. He got a score of 90 for

> upper respiratory and 70 for lower respiratory. Can someone interpret

> these readings for me?

> Karin

>

January 9, 2005

Dear Meena, hope things are looking up. our prayers are with you. If I can

help in any way - forex etc let me know. chin up and be strong.

Malini

With regards

L / M Prasad

lp1960@...

Wish you a very happy day

(unknown)

Dear Meena

Mudit has e mailed a contact in Nairobi from work at your own e mail id.

Please check. Hope Anil is recovering and the situation is better.

Much love

Swati

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April 9, 2009

Hi, . This sounds like my now 11.5 year old daughter, in some

ways. She always had lots of anxiety and was and still is very

resistant to change. Even this year, the beginning of school brought

lots of anxious behavior, but after a few day of the routine, she was

fine. When my daughter was first diagnosed with ocd, the doing

things over and over was her worst problem. She doesn't have any

contamination issues with food or anything else, but does get very

attached to " things " and wants to keep things for reasons that I

don't understand. It does sound like ocd behavior. The prozac may

be helpful, but if things continue in this way, you might want to

think about getting her into therapy. My daughter started with

zoloft in first grade. She started that before the therapy,

basically because she was having meltdowns and so much anxiety that

she couldn't function. But once we started the therapy, in

conjunction with the meds, we saw a huge improvement in her

behavior. She also has a tic disorder, which is sometimes seen

adjacent with ocd, and she had a lot of " touching " tics. That may be

something to watch for. I know it is painful to watch, and very

scary, especially in such a young child. But, we, as well as many

others on this list, have lived through it and come out okay. My

daughter is now in 6th grade, and while still a fairly anxious child,

is as happy and well adjusted as any of her friends seem to be at

this pre-teen age. So, good luck to you all, and know that even if

there are hard times, there are ways to help your daughter overcome

this.

>

> Hi,

>

> My six year old daughter has had some anxiety since an arly age.

> She always had issues with clothing and new experiences were very

> difficult for her. Once she experienced something a few times (ex.

> two days of swimmimg lessons), she seemed O.K. In kind and 1st

> grade she complained of not wanting to go on the bus. This past

> weekend she confessed that she often needs to touch thngs and do

> things over and over. She keeps finding things on her food and

> wanted to keep her hair when she got her haircut. She is now

> having extremen anxiety before school and does not want me to leave

> for work. The psychologist said has OCD and the pediatrician put

> her on 5mg of prozak. I knew she had difficulty with change, but

> now she is openly touching things over and over again and does not

> want to go to school. It is so painful to watch. This is new to

> my husband and I. Does anyone have any advise or success story? I

> am so scared for my daughter.

>

April 9, 2009

,

I would start with a good therapist as well. You can find them in your area on

ocfoundation.org and then " find a doctor - online " and " treatment providers

list " . You really need one who specializes in ocd and is trained in both cbt

and erp.

Everyone here has a similar story and I know the despair and feeling that things

are spiraling out of control. It truly does get better. In fact, my 13 yr old

has ocd and I have four younger children. I see little things here and there

and always wonder if it will develop in them as well, but ocd does not scare me

anymore. I think of it as a challenge or a puzzle that we need to find the help

for. No one is immune to problems.

I know your daughter is on prozac that that may really help her; I believe very

strongly in certain vitamins for ocd as well, that can be taken right along with

the medication. I would put her on cod liver oil (make sure it is purified --

my family uses Nordic Naturals or Coromega), a Vitamin B complex and

Calcium/magnesium supplement. I am a huge advocate of supporting nutritionally

whether on medication or not and I think those three help more than anything.

You have found a great support site and lots of parent experts.

Welcome to the group that everyone wishes they didn't belong to!

in TN