Guest guest Posted November 29, 2001 Report Share Posted November 29, 2001 The " late " Suzanne Segal -- In Loving-what-is@y..., cainsworth6@h... wrote: > Below is the URL of an interview with Suzanne Segal who like > had an awakening and never lost the " vastness " . She > wrote a book called Collision With the Infinite. She has a clear > way of describing who we really are. > > Chuck > > > http://www.theawakeningwest.com/suzanne.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 Hi Fam, I read Suzanne Segal's book COLLISION WITH THE INFINITE earlier this year, at the recommendation of another yoga-advaita--oriented pal, and I had an extreme reaction to it. Her description of her terror at first at losing the personal " I, " and the dissociative quality of her experience before it became an awareness of what she called " the Vastness, " scared the hell out of me frankly. I was relieved to read, in 's interview reproduced at realization.org, that she didn't relate to anything Suzanne said about awakening. There's more than a slim chance that Suzanne's experience had a lot to do with the brain tumor, so of course there is no real need to feel unsafe about losing the personal " I " ...but I feel what I feel, until I don't. So herewith a short piece on that. Core belief: If I lose the personal " I " I will experience terror and dissociation. Is it true? I can't know that it is true. It hasn't happened. I have had glimpses of " merging " and actually those were quite pleasant. How do I react? What do I get for holding the belief? Etc. I'm afraid to really " let go " and experience myself as part of all that is. I think my reality is more " real " than the reality of no " I. " I get to keep my limitations, my carefully constructed persona of Carol who thinks she wants to be free but is full of B.S. I get to be afraid instead. I terrorize myself with the possibility of feeling terror and dissociation. I diminish Suzanne's experience. I think I know what I'm talking about. (Boy, that one could apply to almost any situation, huh?) Mentally I travel to a place where I'm terrified, dissociated, and all alone with no relief in sight. Does this thought cause peace or stress in my life? It's totally stressful to be so freaked out over something that I can't even know is true! Who would I be without the story? I would be so much more than I think I am. I'd be who I really am, " the Vastness. " With or without identification with the personal " I, " I would be okay. I would love all experiences that come to me, with no reference point for " good " or " bad, " " pleasant " or " scary. " Turnarounds: If I lose the personal " I " I will not experience terror and dissociation. Could be just as true or more true. If I DO NOT lose the personal " I " I will experience terror and dissociation. Yes, I experience terror now, with my personal " I " intact...and I have been dissociative in the past, when I did not give myself permission to feel pain or terror. If I lose my thinking, I will experience terror and dissociation. That is the real fear, to separate from my thinking, the thing that thinks my lies are the truth. If I lose my thinking, I will NOT experience terror and dissociation. I will be free. Sigh. Love, Carol S. www.EclecticSpirituality.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Hello to all!! Was just reading this thread from a few months ago about Suzanne Segal, and was inspired to write in...... I once asked personally about Suzanne, and she told me that Yes, she knew her, and that she attended Suzanne's wedding before Suzanne passed away..... told me that Suzanne was a person who was full of fear, and she really stressed that part, and then she said to me, " you see, even the name of her book, COLLISION with the infinte " , stressing the COLLISION part..... and I said, " Oh, I see, well, if you had to sum up your own awakening experience in one word, how would you describe it? " , and then thought about it for a few moments, and looked at me, and said LOVE. Glen > Hi Fam, > > I read Suzanne Segal's book COLLISION WITH THE INFINITE earlier this year, at > the recommendation of another yoga-advaita--oriented pal, and I had an > extreme reaction to it. Her description of her terror at first at losing the > personal " I, " and the dissociative quality of her experience before it became > an awareness of what she called " the Vastness, " scared the hell out of me > frankly. I was relieved to read, in 's interview reproduced at > realization.org, that she didn't relate to anything Suzanne said about > awakening. There's more than a slim chance that Suzanne's experience had a > lot to do with the brain tumor, so of course there is no real need to feel > unsafe about losing the personal " I " ...but I feel what I feel, until I don't. > So herewith a short piece on that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Hello to all!! Was just reading this thread from a few months ago about Suzanne Segal, and was inspired to write in...... I once asked personally about Suzanne, and she told me that Yes, she knew her, and that she attended Suzanne's wedding before Suzanne passed away..... told me that Suzanne was a person who was full of fear, and she really stressed that part, and then she said to me, " you see, even the name of her book, COLLISION with the infinte " , stressing the COLLISION part..... and I said, " Oh, I see, well, if you had to sum up your own awakening experience in one word, how would you describe it? " , and then thought about it for a few moments, and looked at me, and said LOVE. Glen > Hi Fam, > > I read Suzanne Segal's book COLLISION WITH THE INFINITE earlier this year, at > the recommendation of another yoga-advaita--oriented pal, and I had an > extreme reaction to it. Her description of her terror at first at losing the > personal " I, " and the dissociative quality of her experience before it became > an awareness of what she called " the Vastness, " scared the hell out of me > frankly. I was relieved to read, in 's interview reproduced at > realization.org, that she didn't relate to anything Suzanne said about > awakening. There's more than a slim chance that Suzanne's experience had a > lot to do with the brain tumor, so of course there is no real need to feel > unsafe about losing the personal " I " ...but I feel what I feel, until I don't. > So herewith a short piece on that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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