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Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this to himself,

but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he did

this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why would

they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my ped.

I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have an

answer. Keep us posted.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> wrote:

> Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

he got stung

> near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to think.I

> just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I am

> trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has only

> heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I pharmacist

> said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do this.

> Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and I

do

> not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> >

> > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > Charlyne

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> looking at what

> > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > Charlyne

> > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > except the

> > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left side.

His

> > eyes

> > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the heard

> Doc

> > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she thought I

> > should

> > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > a cut on

> > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork they

did

> > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft tissue.He

> > > dialated

> > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let him

know

> > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes are

> still

> > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old sometimes

> > kidney

> > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

similar.

> > >

> > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but if

> > things

> > > do

> > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > concerned

> > > > Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can be

> > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today. Keep us

> > > posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very restless.I

> > > > actually

> > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw was

off

> > > > another

> > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

explained

> > >

> > > > is

> > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No one

> > really

> > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an eye

Doc

> > > today.

> > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to find

a

> > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been helpful.

> Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's hospital

> > fairly

> > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is very

> good

> > > so

> > > > I

> > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital. She

can

> > > call

> > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> today?

> > I

> > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to take

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

Rocky

> > > Balboa

> > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > eyes.Yesterday

> > > I

> > > > > took

> > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen and

the

> > doc

> > > > > said

> > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this can

> be

> > > > caused

> > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit him on

> the

> > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into cellulitis.Yesterday

the

> > Doc

> > > > put

> > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban for

> > > impetigo.I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

open

> > his

> > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into meningitis.I

got

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30 am.The

> > Hospital

> > > > Doc

> > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

breakage

> of

> > a

> > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said you

> > will

> > > > have

> > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> hospital

> > > > gave

> > > > > my

> > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> sleep.I

> > > > keep

> > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they gave

him

> > > > versaid

> > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to go

in

> > they

> > > > > were

> > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > nothing.

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and maid DR

> and

> > > > they

> > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > professional

> > > > not

> > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The CT

> scan

> > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading because he

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

know

> > that

> > > > for

> > > > > a

> > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought they

> > would

> > > > get

> > > > > a

> > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > checking

> > > > out

> > > > > at

> > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son hit

his

> > > head

> > > > > and

> > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's just I

> > never

> > > > saw

> > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > himself.Today

> > > > > was

> > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> swollen

> > he

> > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

BeetleJuice

> > was

> > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I should

do

> > next

> > > > > with

> > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Cyndi: I had an experience at a local hospital about 3 yrs. ago with Tori. She

slammed the back of her head on the driveway (asphalt) and never flinched, the

next night she slammed it on the floor at school. On the way to class (I was

taking a night class) after the visit at the school, she went unconscious in the

car. I had to pull over on the highway and wake her up. She did this 2 more

times before I got to the hospital. The Dr. on duty (who I have seen before)

came in, said she would order a CAT scan and start an IV...which was fine with

me. Tori was so out of it. She was quite lethargic and I told the Dr. this is

definitely not my kid. She checked her eyes (well, she had 5 operations and

they are not normal in any way, shape or form), and felt her head. Well, hello

dummy-her head is misshapen. Anyway...20 min. passed by and a nurse came in and

told me she was giving me discharge instructions! I said " What? " When the dr.

came back in, I asked her about the IV and CAT scan and her exact words to me

were " Well, if she falls asleep and doesn't wake up, bring her back! "

HELLO!!!!! If that happens, SHE IS DEAD and we'll need the funeral home. I

picked Tori up and walked out. Fortunately, Tori was ok..but definitely had a

concussion. I immediately reported this idiot to the state AMA board...and she

has been investigated.

Once this is solved for you, do the same. We CANNOT let these people get away

with treating people with special needs this way!

Liz

Re: I Hate Hospitals

Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this to himself,

but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he did

this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why would

they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my ped.

I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have an

answer. Keep us posted.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> wrote:

> Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

he got stung

> near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to think.I

> just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I am

> trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has only

> heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I pharmacist

> said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do this.

> Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and I

do

> not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> >

> > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > Charlyne

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> looking at what

> > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > Charlyne

> > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > except the

> > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left side.

His

> > eyes

> > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the heard

> Doc

> > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she thought I

> > should

> > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > a cut on

> > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork they

did

> > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft tissue.He

> > > dialated

> > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let him

know

> > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes are

> still

> > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old sometimes

> > kidney

> > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

similar.

> > >

> > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but if

> > things

> > > do

> > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > concerned

> > > > Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can be

> > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today. Keep us

> > > posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very restless.I

> > > > actually

> > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw was

off

> > > > another

> > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

explained

> > >

> > > > is

> > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No one

> > really

> > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an eye

Doc

> > > today.

> > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to find

a

> > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been helpful.

> Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's hospital

> > fairly

> > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is very

> good

> > > so

> > > > I

> > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital. She

can

> > > call

> > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> today?

> > I

> > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to take

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

Rocky

> > > Balboa

> > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > eyes.Yesterday

> > > I

> > > > > took

> > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen and

the

> > doc

> > > > > said

> > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this can

> be

> > > > caused

> > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit him on

> the

> > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into cellulitis.Yesterday

the

> > Doc

> > > > put

> > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban for

> > > impetigo.I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

open

> > his

> > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into meningitis.I

got

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30 am.The

> > Hospital

> > > > Doc

> > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

breakage

> of

> > a

> > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said you

> > will

> > > > have

> > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> hospital

> > > > gave

> > > > > my

> > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> sleep.I

> > > > keep

> > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they gave

him

> > > > versaid

> > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to go

in

> > they

> > > > > were

> > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > nothing.

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and maid DR

> and

> > > > they

> > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > professional

> > > > not

> > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The CT

> scan

> > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading because he

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

know

> > that

> > > > for

> > > > > a

> > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought they

> > would

> > > > get

> > > > > a

> > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > checking

> > > > out

> > > > > at

> > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son hit

his

> > > head

> > > > > and

> > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's just I

> > never

> > > > saw

> > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > himself.Today

> > > > > was

> > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> swollen

> > he

> > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

BeetleJuice

> > was

> > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I should

do

> > next

> > > > > with

> > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Liz, I reported this internally to the hospital and I will let the

state no. Who exactly do I report this too? I am so glad Tori was

alright. They say bring these children into this world there is help

out there. Well where are the professional that are supposed to help

all of us. Today I took back to the Ped and he said he believes

without a doubt that something bit and it got infected. His

eyes are open wider today and the black/purple is going away.But

while we were in the Peds office had a BM with blood in it for

the first time.The Ped said could be connected let him no if he is

still doing or does more by Monday. I do want this to go away but I

just want the Doc's to remember want they learned in Med school and

not forget something else that this could be. I know I have been on

WebMD and it has helped me every time. Thanks Cyndi

>

> Cyndi: I had an experience at a local hospital about 3 yrs. ago

with Tori. She slammed the back of her head on the driveway

(asphalt) and never flinched, the next night she slammed it on the

floor at school. On the way to class (I was taking a night class)

after the visit at the school, she went unconscious in the car. I

had to pull over on the highway and wake her up. She did this 2

more times before I got to the hospital. The Dr. on duty (who I

have seen before) came in, said she would order a CAT scan and start

an IV...which was fine with me. Tori was so out of it. She was

quite lethargic and I told the Dr. this is definitely not my kid.

She checked her eyes (well, she had 5 operations and they are not

normal in any way, shape or form), and felt her head. Well, hello

dummy-her head is misshapen. Anyway...20 min. passed by and a nurse

came in and told me she was giving me discharge instructions! I

said " What? " When the dr. came back in, I asked her about the IV

and CAT scan and her exact words to me were " Well, if she falls

asleep and doesn't wake up, bring her back! " HELLO!!!!! If that

happens, SHE IS DEAD and we'll need the funeral home. I picked Tori

up and walked out. Fortunately, Tori was ok..but definitely had a

concussion. I immediately reported this idiot to the state AMA

board...and she has been investigated.

>

> Once this is solved for you, do the same. We CANNOT let these

people get away with treating people with special needs this way!

>

> Liz

> Re: I Hate Hospitals

>

>

> Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this to

himself,

> but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he

did

> this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why

would

> they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned

Cyndi

> >

> > Hi Cyndi,

> > I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my

ped.

> I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have

an

> answer. Keep us posted.

> > Charlyne

> > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

> he got stung

> > near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> > enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to

think.I

> > just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I

am

> > trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has

only

> > heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I

pharmacist

> > said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do

this.

> > Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and

I

> do

> > not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > > Charlyne

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> > looking at what

> > > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > > except the

> > > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left

side.

> His

> > > eyes

> > > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the

heard

> > Doc

> > > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she

thought I

> > > should

> > > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > > a cut on

> > > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork

they

> did

> > > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft

tissue.He

> > > > dialated

> > > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let

him

> know

> > > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes

are

> > still

> > > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old

sometimes

> > > kidney

> > > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

> similar.

> > > >

> > > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but

if

> > > things

> > > > do

> > > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > > concerned

> > > > > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can

be

> > > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today.

Keep us

> > > > posted.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very

restless.I

> > > > > actually

> > > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw

was

> off

> > > > > another

> > > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

> explained

> > > >

> > > > > is

> > > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No

one

> > > really

> > > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an

eye

> Doc

> > > > today.

> > > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to

find

> a

> > > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been

helpful.

> > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's

hospital

> > > fairly

> > > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is

very

> > good

> > > > so

> > > > > I

> > > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital.

She

> can

> > > > call

> > > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> > today?

> > > I

> > > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to

take

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

> Rocky

> > > > Balboa

> > > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > > eyes.Yesterday

> > > > I

> > > > > > took

> > > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen

and

> the

> > > doc

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this

can

> > be

> > > > > caused

> > > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit

him on

> > the

> > > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into

cellulitis.Yesterday

> the

> > > Doc

> > > > > put

> > > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban

for

> > > > impetigo.I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

> open

> > > his

> > > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into

meningitis.I

> got

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30

am.The

> > > Hospital

> > > > > Doc

> > > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

> breakage

> > of

> > > a

> > > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said

you

> > > will

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> > hospital

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> > sleep.I

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they

gave

> him

> > > > > versaid

> > > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to

go

> in

> > > they

> > > > > > were

> > > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > > nothing.

> > > > I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and

maid DR

> > and

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > > professional

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The

CT

> > scan

> > > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading

because he

> > > would

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

> know

> > > that

> > > > > for

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought

they

> > > would

> > > > > get

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > > checking

> > > > > out

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son

hit

> his

> > > > head

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's

just I

> > > never

> > > > > saw

> > > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > > himself.Today

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> > swollen

> > > he

> > > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

> BeetleJuice

> > > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I

should

> do

> > > next

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Hi Cyndi,

Regardless if they think did this himself the dr's should be checking to

see if any damage was done, come on. I know your doing everything possible on

your end with whom you have to work with. How is he today? Where do you live?

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

wrote:

Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this to himself,

but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he did

this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why would

they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my ped.

I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have an

answer. Keep us posted.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> wrote:

> Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

he got stung

> near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to think.I

> just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I am

> trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has only

> heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I pharmacist

> said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do this.

> Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and I

do

> not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> >

> > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > Charlyne

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> looking at what

> > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > Charlyne

> > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > except the

> > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left side.

His

> > eyes

> > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the heard

> Doc

> > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she thought I

> > should

> > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > a cut on

> > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork they

did

> > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft tissue.He

> > > dialated

> > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let him

know

> > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes are

> still

> > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old sometimes

> > kidney

> > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

similar.

> > >

> > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but if

> > things

> > > do

> > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > concerned

> > > > Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can be

> > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today. Keep us

> > > posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very restless.I

> > > > actually

> > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw was

off

> > > > another

> > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

explained

> > >

> > > > is

> > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No one

> > really

> > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an eye

Doc

> > > today.

> > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to find

a

> > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been helpful.

> Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's hospital

> > fairly

> > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is very

> good

> > > so

> > > > I

> > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital. She

can

> > > call

> > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> today?

> > I

> > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to take

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

Rocky

> > > Balboa

> > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > eyes.Yesterday

> > > I

> > > > > took

> > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen and

the

> > doc

> > > > > said

> > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this can

> be

> > > > caused

> > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit him on

> the

> > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into cellulitis.Yesterday

the

> > Doc

> > > > put

> > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban for

> > > impetigo.I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

open

> > his

> > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into meningitis.I

got

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30 am.The

> > Hospital

> > > > Doc

> > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

breakage

> of

> > a

> > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said you

> > will

> > > > have

> > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> hospital

> > > > gave

> > > > > my

> > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> sleep.I

> > > > keep

> > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they gave

him

> > > > versaid

> > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to go

in

> > they

> > > > > were

> > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > nothing.

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and maid DR

> and

> > > > they

> > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > professional

> > > > not

> > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The CT

> scan

> > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading because he

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

know

> > that

> > > > for

> > > > > a

> > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought they

> > would

> > > > get

> > > > > a

> > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > checking

> > > > out

> > > > > at

> > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son hit

his

> > > head

> > > > > and

> > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's just I

> > never

> > > > saw

> > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > himself.Today

> > > > > was

> > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> swollen

> > he

> > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

BeetleJuice

> > was

> > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I should

do

> > next

> > > > > with

> > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Carol & Sherry, My husband had typoid fever in 2003 and would have

died if I had taken the advice of the hospital.Derby Day I took him

to the ER and they said we are not sure but we think he has

menigitist or hepatist but it is very treatable on the outside and

they released him from the ER.On Monday I took him to an internist

and he was spiraling downward, blood pressure dropping and he would

have died if this Doc had not found what was wrong with him.Thank

God for this Doc because she would not give up. My mother had Lung

Cancer and they were 95% sure quote unquote they could take out her

lung and she would be fine. Wrong again.My mother was dg in Nov and

died in Jan 2months latter.That is why I keep pushing till I find

out what is wrong. More than one opinion never hurts but it can save

a life. Cyndi

>

> Not at all. I have been a medical assistant for almost twenty

years.

> Probably a fault at sometimes. However, what if I hadn't had any

medical

> experience?

>

> If a doctor doesn't know, they should call a colleague, a

specialist of

> specialist, or something. Doctors do not like to admit when they

don't know

> what something is. It is their actions after the fact, that is

the problem.

>

>

>

> Just my opinion.

>

>

>

> Sherry #2

>

>

>

> Re: Re: I Hate Hospitals

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 7/7/2006 12:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> cynthiamiltonburns@ <mailto:cynthiamiltonburns%40yahoo.com>

yahoo.com

> writes:

>

> OtherwisOtherwis<WBR>e like y

> they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

>

> Ok here goes I'll probably get put on the black list but...It may

not be a

> matter of not taking it more seriously but more of a they just

don't know

> what

> it is. Were you recommended to take him for further testing? You

have to

> remember that we are mothers and we want things fixed now not

later and we

> get

> upset and mad when the people we think should have all the answers

don't. I

> know you don't want to hear this but even doctors don't have all

the answers

>

> and we tend to expect more and even sometimes miracles from those

in the

> medical field and when we don't get them we are angry and think

they aren't

> doing their jobs. Monitor watch for any signs that things are

changing

> and

> keep your doctor notified and make those appointments as soon as

you can

> even

> if have to wait to see the neuro because you would still want him

checked to

>

> make sure there are no after effects. Maybe they didn't put

in the

> hospital because that would me more traumatic on him and he could

be

> monitored

> at home knowing that you would bring him back if necessary. Please

don't get

>

> mad or offended, because I that is not my intention but sometimes

the only

> thing you can do is wait and see and Pray. My heart goes out to

and yo

> u and I hope you find out what is going on and soon and that

has a

> speedy recovery. My prayers are with both of you.

>

> Carol

> Trishasmom

> She isn't typical, She's Trisha!

>

>

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Charlyne, I felt a little better today is looking better. We

went to see the Ped that I saw on Monday and he said is

responding to the meds.He firmly believes that something bit on

the scalp because of a scab and originally he had a severely red

goose egg.He gave eye drops, and zertec today.The eye doc also

believes that had a cut or a bit and the infection went down

into his eyes and face.I was feeling better and then had a BM

with blood in his stool.The doc said this can be normal but if he

does more and keeps doing this let him know.I just want this to go

away I am soooo stressed now I am having migraines.Thanks for asking

Cyndi

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> Regardless if they think did this himself the dr's should

be checking to see if any damage was done, come on. I know your

doing everything possible on your end with whom you have to work

with. How is he today? Where do you live?

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> wrote:

> Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this

to himself,

> but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he

did

> this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why

would

> they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

> >

> > Hi Cyndi,

> > I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my ped.

> I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have an

> answer. Keep us posted.

> > Charlyne

> > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

> he got stung

> > near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> > enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to

think.I

> > just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I am

> > trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has

only

> > heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I

pharmacist

> > said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do

this.

> > Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and I

> do

> > not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > > Charlyne

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> > looking at what

> > > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > > except the

> > > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left side.

> His

> > > eyes

> > > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the

heard

> > Doc

> > > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she thought

I

> > > should

> > > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > > a cut on

> > > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork they

> did

> > > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft

tissue.He

> > > > dialated

> > > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let him

> know

> > > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes are

> > still

> > > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old sometimes

> > > kidney

> > > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

> similar.

> > > >

> > > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but if

> > > things

> > > > do

> > > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > > concerned

> > > > > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can

be

> > > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today. Keep

us

> > > > posted.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very restless.I

> > > > > actually

> > > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw was

> off

> > > > > another

> > > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

> explained

> > > >

> > > > > is

> > > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No one

> > > really

> > > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an eye

> Doc

> > > > today.

> > > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to

find

> a

> > > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been

helpful.

> > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's

hospital

> > > fairly

> > > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is

very

> > good

> > > > so

> > > > > I

> > > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital. She

> can

> > > > call

> > > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> > today?

> > > I

> > > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to

take

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

> Rocky

> > > > Balboa

> > > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > > eyes.Yesterday

> > > > I

> > > > > > took

> > > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen and

> the

> > > doc

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this

can

> > be

> > > > > caused

> > > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit him

on

> > the

> > > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into cellulitis.Yesterday

> the

> > > Doc

> > > > > put

> > > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban for

> > > > impetigo.I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

> open

> > > his

> > > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into meningitis.I

> got

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30 am.The

> > > Hospital

> > > > > Doc

> > > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

> breakage

> > of

> > > a

> > > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said

you

> > > will

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> > hospital

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> > sleep.I

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they gave

> him

> > > > > versaid

> > > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to go

> in

> > > they

> > > > > > were

> > > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > > nothing.

> > > > I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and maid

DR

> > and

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > > professional

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The

CT

> > scan

> > > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading because

he

> > > would

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

> know

> > > that

> > > > > for

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought

they

> > > would

> > > > > get

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > > checking

> > > > > out

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son hit

> his

> > > > head

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's just

I

> > > never

> > > > > saw

> > > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > > himself.Today

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> > swollen

> > > he

> > > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

> BeetleJuice

> > > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I should

> do

> > > next

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Cyndi,

I hope feels better.......poor kid........ get some rest

yourself.............

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Hi Cyndi,

Good to hear that is feeling better. You would think that on dr would

know about bites.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

wrote:

Charlyne, I felt a little better today is looking better. We

went to see the Ped that I saw on Monday and he said is

responding to the meds.He firmly believes that something bit on

the scalp because of a scab and originally he had a severely red

goose egg.He gave eye drops, and zertec today.The eye doc also

believes that had a cut or a bit and the infection went down

into his eyes and face.I was feeling better and then had a BM

with blood in his stool.The doc said this can be normal but if he

does more and keeps doing this let him know.I just want this to go

away I am soooo stressed now I am having migraines.Thanks for asking

Cyndi

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> Regardless if they think did this himself the dr's should

be checking to see if any damage was done, come on. I know your

doing everything possible on your end with whom you have to work

with. How is he today? Where do you live?

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> wrote:

> Charlyne, I think they believe really that he did this

to himself,

> but they keep saying an infection.No one has really ever said he

did

> this to himself it's just my impression.Otherwise like you why

would

> they not take this more seriously?Thanks for being concerned Cyndi

> >

> > Hi Cyndi,

> > I don't know what I would do but I would be screaming at my ped.

> I think this is way too long for not one medical person to have an

> answer. Keep us posted.

> > Charlyne

> > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > Charlyne, The pharmacist suggested a bee sting. He said

> he got stung

> > near his mouth and his whole side of his face swelled like

> > enstein.I just an at a lost and I do not know what to

think.I

> > just want this to go away because I know is miserable.I am

> > trying him on Benadryl.The ears nose and throat Doc that has

only

> > heard about and has not seen him suggested this.I

pharmacist

> > said it may help with swelling but the antibiotic should do

this.

> > Charlyne what do you think? I am doing all I know I can do and I

> do

> > not feel it is enough. Cyndi

> > >

> > > Geez Cyndi, I hope they can figure out the problem soon.

> > > Charlyne

> > >

> > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > Charlyne, I have spoken to a neurologist and he is

> > looking at what

> > > they did at the hospital and calling the ped. Cyndi

> > > >

> > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > Were you able to get an appt asap with a neurologist?

> > > > Charlyne

> > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > >

> > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > Charlyne,Thanks for being concerned looks the same

> > > except the

> > > > swelling on the right side of face is now on the left side.

> His

> > > eyes

> > > > still look like he was in a Rocky movie.Today we saw the

heard

> > Doc

> > > > and she said his heard looked okay but she said she thought

I

> > > should

> > > > see a nuerologist, because I asked. Cyndi

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > Thanks for the update. How is today? Keep us posted.

> > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > >

> > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > charlyne,I took to an eye Doc that thinks had

> > > > a cut on

> > > > > his head that got infected and he said the bloodwork they

> did

> > > > > yesterday would not show an infection of the soft

tissue.He

> > > > dialated

> > > > > 's eyes and said his eyes are okay. I have to let him

> know

> > > > > Friday how is doing if swelling is gone but eyes are

> > still

> > > > > black.In rare cases of children ages 1-3 yrs old sometimes

> > > kidney

> > > > > stones or problems can cause the eyes to do something

> similar.

> > > >

> > > > > is 11 so he does not think this will happed to but if

> > > things

> > > > do

> > > > > not clear up he will check for this. Thanks for being so

> > > concerned

> > > > > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > Geez, I hope you can get some answers so poor can

be

> > > > > comfortable. I would have driven my ped crazy today. Keep

us

> > > > posted.

> > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Charlyne, is the same today and very restless.I

> > > > > actually

> > > > > > called the Dr.s office on the 4th and the Dr. he saw was

> off

> > > > > another

> > > > > > Doc was on call. She did call the hospital and she

> explained

> > > >

> > > > > is

> > > > > > special needs but apparently they did not listen. No one

> > > really

> > > > > > knows what is wrong with . He will be seeing an eye

> Doc

> > > > today.

> > > > > > Thanks for your help and concern, and I am trying to

find

> a

> > > > > > neurologist. Thanks again Charlyne you have been

helpful.

> > Cyndi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Cyndi,

> > > > > > > I don't like them either. We have a children's

hospital

> > > fairly

> > > > > > close by and they are no better. Our pediatrician is

very

> > good

> > > > so

> > > > > I

> > > > > > always contact her first before going to a hospital. She

> can

> > > > call

> > > > > > ahead and give the dr's a heads up. Is any better

> > today?

> > > I

> > > > > > would contact your pediatrician.

> > > > > > > Charlyne

> > > > > > > Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <cynthiamiltonburns@> wrote:

> > > > > > > I hope everyones 4th was better than mine.I had to

take

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > hospital.When he got up this morning he looked like

> Rocky

> > > > Balboa

> > > > > > > after a boxing match and he could not open his

> > > eyes.Yesterday

> > > > I

> > > > > > took

> > > > > > > him to the doctor because his forehead was swollen and

> the

> > > doc

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > he thought had cellulitis.I read on web md this

can

> > be

> > > > > caused

> > > > > > > by a mosquito bite, etc.The Dr. thought a bug bit him

on

> > the

> > > > > > > head,cause impetigo and went into cellulitis.Yesterday

> the

> > > Doc

> > > > > put

> > > > > > > him on augmentin for the cellulitis and bactraban for

> > > > impetigo.I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > so scared when I saw today because he could not

> open

> > > his

> > > > > > eyes.

> > > > > > > On web MD is said cellulitis can go into meningitis.I

> got

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > hospital at 10 a.m. was seen by a Dr. by 11:30 am.The

> > > Hospital

> > > > > Doc

> > > > > > > wanted to do a CT scan to rule out infection and

> breakage

> > of

> > > a

> > > > > > > bone.Also they wanted to give and IV and I said

you

> > > will

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > to totally sedate him or he will rip out the IV.The

> > hospital

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > son ADAVAn which made him hyper and he did not go to

> > sleep.I

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > > stressing you need to totally sedate him.So they gave

> him

> > > > > versaid

> > > > > > > but still he did not go to sleep.When the IV was to go

> in

> > > they

> > > > > > were

> > > > > > > supposed to give him more meds in the IV well he got

> > > nothing.

> > > > I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > livid. I talked to the ER and the Main nurse and maid

DR

> > and

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > assured me they would sedate him. Wrong. Do these

> > > professional

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > know that we know I children better than anybody?The

CT

> > scan

> > > > > > > nevertheless did not give them a full reading because

he

> > > would

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > totally go to sleep and lie still.These professional

> know

> > > that

> > > > > for

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > CT scan you have to lay still and yet they thought

they

> > > would

> > > > > get

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > reading anyway. Well after being there at 10a.m. and

> > > checking

> > > > > out

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > 6:30p.m. the docs still were not sure maybe my son hit

> his

> > > > head

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > that is a possibility with being violet it's just

I

> > > never

> > > > > saw

> > > > > > > him hit himself so hard he could have done this to

> > > > himself.Today

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > a wasted day at the hospital. 's eyes were sooo

> > swollen

> > > he

> > > > > > > looked like BeetleJuice around the eyes after

> BeetleJuice

> > > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > extreme punching match.What do you guys think I should

> do

> > > next

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > this situation? Cyndi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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<<while we were in the Peds office had a BM with blood in it for

the first time.The Ped said could be connected let him no if he is >>

Sheesh, the first time had a BM with blood in it they rushed her to the ER

than admitted her to the hospital- they did labwork and found her red blood

count was seriously low and she had to have two transfusions. Now hers was real

black blood so we knew it was coming from deep inside. If his was red maybe

they're waiting to see if it's just from straining or something.

But I certainly hope someone does some labs on him. Had he had any done recently

since he's been going thru this?

Sherry

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<<e wont even sit on the dr's talble in their office because of the crap he has

had to go through with doctors, and he wanted to start an iv and give the versed

that way, and we were like cant do that what would be the purpose of sedating

and calming if you going to do what really upsets him and what were trying to

avoid anyway-->>

I hear ya on this a... still freaks out if she has to get on the table

at the docs office. They try to do everything they possibly can while she's in

her stroller. Actually she freaks whenever we try to lay her down on her back

for anything. So many traumatic bloodlettings with 6 people holding her down.

Yuk.

Sherry

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Us nurses see things many times and often put bugs in doc ear to help, but

not allowed to actually dx or order or tell people what to do that isnt a

order but i can explain, there is another nurse or two on this list too i do

beleive. A cbc isnt a blood culture, look at his labs (you are allowed by

right) there should be somthing about a culture, and if anything was found

eg:gram negative rods etc,-- his cbc would tell you if his white blood count

was elevated hence an infection, if really high needs to be ona atb, most

all labs also do a " c & s " for culture and senstivity ---this is when they

take the blood culture and try tiny amounts againts many of the commonly

used meds (atb) for it, to see what it is sensitive to, so the doc can

prescribe the med to kill off the bad bug. As for the temp, it is different

for different hospitals/ and people, for the elderly if they run a low grade

temp of 100, that is very significant as they usually run lower as one gets

older, but for a child a temp of 100 doesnt get the docs too worried. At our

hospital we often dont give an antipyretic (fever) unless the temp is 101 or

greater. AS our body uses its temp to make more wbc's to fight off

infection, which is normal and especially today with soo much resistence the

docs try to let the body do its job. As for the cellulitis some have temps

and some dont, depends on person, the blood culture usually show whats going

on. I hope i explained this right, please any other nurse chime in. shawna

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shawna,Thanks for your expertise. I am not really sure what kind of

blood test they took at the hospital. I do not not if it was a CBC

or Blood Culture.I know they took the blood his IV pick and that was

it.Today 's right eye started to swell a little again and I

called the PEds office. They called back with this is all trauma

induced and the Ped would see him if I wanted him to. I called a

neurologist office that the Peds office called last week. I

explained I am not trying to get examined for Autism he has

something very serious going on with swelling of the head and

face.The neuro's office said have your Ped call and speak directly

to the neuro.Then they will make an appointment. How do you ever get

a true second oppinion if all these docs discuss your child with

each other? One Physician is telling another Physician what his

thoughts are aboout what is going on with your child.Cyndi

>

> Us nurses see things many times and often put bugs in doc ear to

help, but

> not allowed to actually dx or order or tell people what to do that

isnt a

> order but i can explain, there is another nurse or two on this

list too i do

> beleive. A cbc isnt a blood culture, look at his labs (you are

allowed by

> right) there should be somthing about a culture, and if anything

was found

> eg:gram negative rods etc,-- his cbc would tell you if his white

blood count

> was elevated hence an infection, if really high needs to be ona

atb, most

> all labs also do a " c & s " for culture and senstivity ---this is

when they

> take the blood culture and try tiny amounts againts many of the

commonly

> used meds (atb) for it, to see what it is sensitive to, so the doc

can

> prescribe the med to kill off the bad bug. As for the temp, it is

different

> for different hospitals/ and people, for the elderly if they run a

low grade

> temp of 100, that is very significant as they usually run lower as

one gets

> older, but for a child a temp of 100 doesnt get the docs too

worried. At our

> hospital we often dont give an antipyretic (fever) unless the temp

is 101 or

> greater. AS our body uses its temp to make more wbc's to fight off

> infection, which is normal and especially today with soo much

resistence the

> docs try to let the body do its job. As for the cellulitis some

have temps

> and some dont, depends on person, the blood culture usually show

whats going

> on. I hope i explained this right, please any other nurse chime

in. shawna

>

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In a message dated 7/9/2006 12:13:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tcjojoandme@... writes:

I have found that my daughter does not run big temps either. It is

obviously a side effect of having an extra chromosome.

Ditto.

For years, Maddie never got fevers, even when my other 4 were getting off

the charts (close to 105) with strep. Whenever she's gotten one, it's been

low grade, so I pay attention.

Donna

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