RE: was-Hannity interview last night-diane/maureen-Obama disability/autism plans

[Guest guest]

Diane and Maureen,

Here are some of the plans from Obama sent to me from a member

of his campaign staff, including his answers to the A-CHAMP questionnaire…-

PS. The community services act is something to look at as he

plans on funds for staying in the community with support. I think this will be

very important once our kids start aging out of school. I'm sure Lin can give

us more specifics on McCain's proposals as well.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Diane

S

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:58 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: Hannity interview last night

>

>

ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for those

already affected and those children and families who in the future

will not have to bear our burdens.

HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged beyond

the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either candidate

spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs etc

for those affected by Autism specifically??

This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help, b/c

although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and taking

care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both sides.

I'm sure most of you can relate.

Diane

> " And finally, you know those special needs families, I --- you

know,

> after a debate you always kind of wish you had said something. And

one

> thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall meetings

we

> have lots of families show up with children that have autism, and

other

> special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take on that

task

> of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism, find a

cure

> for it. "

>

> There is a transcript here:

> *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> *

>

> - Will

> > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin, McCain

said,

> > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin to

work on

> > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said

" cure " and

I

> > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link to

the

> > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't

realize

> > what he said!!! It was wild!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How do we know what they really mean? Here is just a small clip

of McCain, and the media questioning his actions.

In EOHarm , " Chap'N'Alli " wrote:

>

> Diane and Maureen,

>

> Here are some of the plans from Obama sent to me from a member of

his

> campaign staff, including his answers to the A-CHAMP questionnaire.-

>

> PS. The community services act is something to look at as he plans

on funds

> for staying in the community with support. I think this will be

very

> important once our kids start aging out of school. I'm sure Lin

can give us

> more specifics on McCain's proposals as well.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Diane S

> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:58 AM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: Re: Hannity interview last night

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for those

> already affected and those children and families who in the future

> will not have to bear our burdens.

>

> HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged beyond

> the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either candidate

> spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs etc

> for those affected by Autism specifically??

>

> This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help, b/c

> although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and taking

> care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both sides.

> I'm sure most of you can relate.

>

> Diane

>

> > " And finally, you know those special needs families, I --- you

> know,

> > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said something.

And

> one

> > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall meetings

> we

> > have lots of families show up with children that have autism, and

> other

> > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take on

that

> task

> > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism, find a

> cure

> > for it. "

> >

> > There is a transcript here:

> > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> > *

> >

> > - Will

> > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin, McCain

> said,

> > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin to

> work on

> > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said " cure "

and

> I

> > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link to

> the

> > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't

> realize

> > > what he said!!! It was wild!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi.. on obama's website... he gives a clear plan about autism... for adults and kids... for jobs.. training.. health.. community living.. ect... very clear.. but will it be implemented? and how? I hear he is talker and not a doer... just repeating from what I have heard.. on McCain's website.. I see nothing like what Obama has spelled out.. unless I overlooked it... but he does have a blurb about the autism epidemic... but no written out plan... I am more confused... Lia

Re: Hannity interview last night

> > > >

> >

> > > ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for those > already affected and those children and families who in the future > will not have to bear our burdens. > > HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged beyond > the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either candidate > spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs etc > for those affected by Autism specifically?? > > This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help, b/c > although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and taking > care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both sides. > I'm sure most of you can relate.

> > Diane

> > > "And finally, you know those special needs families, I --- you > know, > > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said something. And > one > > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall meetings > we > > have lots of families show up with children that have autism, and > other > > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take on that > task > > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism, find a > cure > > for it."

> > > > There is a transcript here:

> > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> > *

> > > > - Will

> > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin, McCain > said, > > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin to > work on > > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said "cure" and > I > > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link to > the > > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't > realize > > > what he said!!! It was wild!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this video. I am sure

someone can make the same type of video of Obama's mis-steps---just

proves to me that a politician is as slimy as a used car salesman!

Sorry to insult the used car salesmen on the list but it is true that

they BOTH will say and do anything to get elected. I am still

sticking with OBAMA because at least his VP is qualified to take over

if need be. President Palin and the first DUDE scare me to death!

Tina

> > >

> > >

> > ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for those

> > already affected and those children and families who in the

future

> > will not have to bear our burdens.

> >

> > HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged beyond

> > the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either candidate

> > spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs

etc

> > for those affected by Autism specifically??

> >

> > This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help, b/c

> > although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and taking

> > care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both

sides.

> > I'm sure most of you can relate.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> > > " And finally, you know those special needs families, I --- you

> > know,

> > > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said something.

> And

> > one

> > > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall

meetings

> > we

> > > have lots of families show up with children that have autism,

and

> > other

> > > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take on

> that

> > task

> > > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism, find

a

> > cure

> > > for it. "

> > >

> > > There is a transcript here:

> > > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> > > *

> > >

> > > - Will

> > > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin,

McCain

> > said,

> > > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin

to

> > work on

> > > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said " cure "

> and

> > I

> > > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link

to

> > the

> > > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't

> > realize

> > > > what he said!!! It was wild!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah why would you vote for someone whos gonna help special needs

kids?Someone who knowns and is going to learn a lot more of what its

like to parent a special needs child. Go ahead, vote for Barack. But

i'm voting for the people I trust. I cannot trust someone who was a

muslim and denounced the religion, was the member of an anti-american

church for 20 yrs and denouced that and has sat on boards with

american terrorists. My vote goes to the american hero who has one

agenda: To keep me safe from people like Barack Obama!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for

those

> > > already affected and those children and families who in the

> future

> > > will not have to bear our burdens.

> > >

> > > HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged

beyond

> > > the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either

candidate

> > > spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs

> etc

> > > for those affected by Autism specifically??

> > >

> > > This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help,

b/c

> > > although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and

taking

> > > care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both

> sides.

> > > I'm sure most of you can relate.

> > >

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > > " And finally, you know those special needs families, I ---

you

> > > know,

> > > > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said

something.

> > And

> > > one

> > > > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall

> meetings

> > > we

> > > > have lots of families show up with children that have autism,

> and

> > > other

> > > > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take

on

> > that

> > > task

> > > > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism,

find

> a

> > > cure

> > > > for it. "

> > > >

> > > > There is a transcript here:

> > > > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > > - Will

> > > > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin,

> McCain

> > > said,

> > > > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin

> to

> > > work on

> > > > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he

said " cure "

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a

link

> to

> > > the

> > > > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you

didn't

> > > realize

> > > > > what he said!!! It was wild!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Did anyone actually read the attachments I sent?? Just

wondering cause this is taking on a different route. If you go back to my

earlier message you will read autism and disability information from Obama's

campaign and read stuff Lin has posted from McCain's campaign. Let's lay

off the tangents that throw such huge wedges between us on this list at the

moment. Just my opinion but people asked for the info and it doesn't seem

like even though some asked no one is actually reading it. If you can't

gain access to it and want to read it let me know and I will send it to you

personally.

-

PS. I implore you to stop using untrue Obama religious

rumors and other unsubstantiated Palin personal insults and please stick to the

issues our community needs to know about. The rest is insulting to our

intelligence.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of ann_straub

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 5:57 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: was-Hannity interview last

night-diane/maureen-Obama disability/autism plans

Yeah why would you vote for someone whos gonna help special needs

kids?Someone who knowns and is going to learn a lot more of what its

like to parent a special needs child. Go ahead, vote for Barack. But

i'm voting for the people I trust. I cannot trust someone who was a

muslim and denounced the religion, was the member of an anti-american

church for 20 yrs and denouced that and has sat on boards with

american terrorists. My vote goes to the american hero who has one

agenda: To keep me safe from people like Barack Obama!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for

those

> > > already affected and those children and families who in the

> future

> > > will not have to bear our burdens.

> > >

> > > HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged

beyond

> > > the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either

candidate

> > > spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs

> etc

> > > for those affected by Autism specifically??

> > >

> > > This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help,

b/c

> > > although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and

taking

> > > care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both

> sides.

> > > I'm sure most of you can relate.

> > >

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > > " And finally, you know those special needs families, I

---

you

> > > know,

> > > > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said

something.

> > And

> > > one

> > > > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall

> meetings

> > > we

> > > > have lots of families show up with children that have

autism,

> and

> > > other

> > > > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take

on

> > that

> > > task

> > > > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism,

find

> a

> > > cure

> > > > for it. "

> > > >

> > > > There is a transcript here:

> > > > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > > - Will

> > > > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and

Palin,

> McCain

> > > said,

> > > > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted

Palin

> to

> > > work on

> > > > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he

said " cure "

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted

a

link

> to

> > > the

> > > > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you

didn't

> > > realize

> > > > > what he said!!! It was wild!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She’s not going to learn much of anything about parenting that

child. He will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots.

She clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one was a

violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is pregnant at

17. If those are the family values you support, then you definitely have your

candidate. For fun, you can attend her

church, where they speak in tongues and get blessed by witch doctors…While you’re

there, ask the natives why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of

state for an appropriate education.

[Guest guest]

I agree with that there's a way to discuss the issues without

being divisive within our community. Those of us in the vaccine

injury camp haven't won this thing yet and divided we fall. There's

going to be some huge hurdles for effected families no matter who

gets in and we'll still need a cohesive movement. Any post with

exclamation points in it while discussing politics is probably

inappropriate and probably part of the " divisive tangent " , even if

it's in retort to a post loaded with exclamation points.

Aside from protecting group cohesiveness, I think it's probably best

for each individual to protect their *own* sanity by keeping a cool

head and not misreporting. Afterall, we're not voting for America's

new God and there are going to be disappointments for us no matter

who gets in. Hopefully some perks but it's going to be nerve wracking

all the same because the whole country's in the toilet and we may

find ourselves having to take a number and wait for changes in the

system which benefit our children. Also, while bringing up religion,

it wouldn't it be a little less ironic if people didn't, um, *bear

false witness* against either candidate?

>

> Did anyone actually read the attachments I sent?? Just wondering

cause this

> is taking on a different route. If you go back to my earlier

message you

> will read autism and disability information from Obama's campaign

and read

> stuff Lin has posted from McCain's campaign. Let's lay off the

tangents

> that throw such huge wedges between us on this list at the moment.

Just my

> opinion but people asked for the info and it doesn't seem like even

though

> some asked no one is actually reading it. If you can't gain access

to it

> and want to read it let me know and I will send it to you

personally.

>

> -

>

>

>

> PS. I implore you to stop using untrue Obama religious rumors and

other

> unsubstantiated Palin personal insults and please stick to the

issues our

> community needs to know about. The rest is insulting to our

intelligence.

>

[Guest guest]

Liz, I agree with you.

This week,Palin has been using all her power to make a big

stink about Obama - his so called connections to a " T " . I really think

someone needs to pull her aside and pull the plug on such talk. Its

apparently making her look bad to really tie a Presd.

candidate to such.

I guess we won't hear how the Troopergate hearings were decided, since

it was due out this week. They must have something to hide or the media

would be allowed to hear/report it. Most likley won't hear about her

abuse of power in AK until a few days before the election.

Really all of this has got to be giving many of us Political fatigue,

I will be glad when it's over.

So we can then focus on how they can help our children's future.

In EOHarm , " Liz " wrote:

>

> She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that

child. He

> will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She

> clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one

was a

> violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is

pregnant

> at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

definitely have

> your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak

in

> tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the

natives

> why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an

> appropriate education.

>

[Guest guest]

They just announced it- it’s all over the news:

-- Gov. Palin abused her power in a state official's firing but did not violate the law, an Alaska legislative panel finds.

Liz, I agree with you.

This week,Palin has been using all her power to make a big

stink about Obama - his so called connections to a " T " . I really think

someone needs to pull her aside and pull the plug on such talk. Its

apparently making her look bad to really tie a Presd.

candidate to such.

I guess we won't hear how the Troopergate hearings were decided, since

it was due out this week. They must have something to hide or the media

would be allowed to hear/report it. Most likley won't hear about her

abuse of power in AK until a few days before the election.

Really all of this has got to be giving many of us Political fatigue,

I will be glad when it's over.

So we can then focus on how they can help our children's future.

In EOHarm <mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com> , " Liz " wrote:

>

> She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that

child. He

> will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She

> clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one

was a

> violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is

pregnant

> at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

definitely have

> your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak

in

> tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the

natives

> why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an

> appropriate education.

>

[Guest guest]

Do you suppose that Palin is bitter with the fact that she has an child that is less than perfect?? Some people raise above when they face challenges, others react in an negative measures. I wonder (not wishing) what would happen if her daughter gives birth to an autistic child brought on by vaccine injury. Would she stand and fight for the cause or would she be bought for silence by the parms.

Would she misuse her power as VP to force all of us to have vaccines at our expense, both financial and health just so she can help stimulate the medical economy.

I just don't trust none of those politicians, the election needs to be continue so we can hear and learn more truth about the candidates Suppose what will happen if McCain and Palin was elected and one of them is found guilty of a crime. Are we stuck with them for 4yrs??? I need more time to consider which to vote on.... and the choices are the lessor of the two evils. Its for our children sake!!

To: EOHarm From: christine@...Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:00:42 -0400Subject: Re: was-Hannity interview last night-diane/maureen-Obama disability/autism plans

They just announced it- it’s all over the news:-- Gov. Palin abused her power in a state official's firing but did not violate the law, an Alaska legislative panel finds.On 10/10/08 8:58 PM, "s_degiusti" <blessingsx10aol> wrote:

Liz, I agree with you. This week,Palin has been using all her power to make a bigstink about Obama - his so called connections to a "T". I really think someone needs to pull her aside and pull the plug on such talk. Its apparently making her look bad to really tie a Presd. candidate to such. I guess we won't hear how the Troopergate hearings were decided, sinceit was due out this week. They must have something to hide or the media would be allowed to hear/report it. Most likley won't hear about her abuse of power in AK until a few days before the election.Really all of this has got to be giving many of us Political fatigue,I will be glad when it's over.So we can then focus on how they can help our children's future.In EOHarm <mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com> , "Liz " wrote:>> She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that child. He> will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She> clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one was a> violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is pregnant> at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you definitely have> your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak in> tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the natives> why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an> appropriate education.>

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[Guest guest]

I'm afraid she won't go on SNL now because of this.

I'm bummed. I was looking forward to seeing her on SNL.

BTW, I'm watching Fox News and they have barely mentioned it.

> >> >

> >> > She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that

> > child. He

> >> > will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-

trots. She

> >> > clearly has not been very present in the life of her two

eldest, one

> > was a

> >> > violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the

other is

> > pregnant

> >> > at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

> > definitely have

> >> > your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they

speak

> > in

> >> > tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there,

ask the

> > natives

> >> > why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state

for an

> >> > appropriate education.

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think it'll pass very quickly because people are really concentrating on the pres. candidates now that the election is getting so close, and not the V.P's.

M

Subject: Re: was-Hannity interview last night-diane/maureen-Obama disability/autism plansTo: EOHarm Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 8:49 AM

I'm afraid she won't go on SNL now because of this.I'm bummed. I was looking forward to seeing her on SNL.BTW, I'm watching Fox News and they have barely mentioned it.> >> >>

>> > She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that> > child. He> >> > will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She> >> > clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one> > was a> >> > violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is> > pregnant> >> > at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you> > definitely have> >> > your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak> > in> >> > tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the> > natives> >> > why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an> >> > appropriate education.> >> >> > > > >

>>

[Guest guest]

Show me one politician that hasn't done this. I'd vote for them

tomorrow.

Cg

>

> They just announced it- it¹s all over the news:

>

> -- Gov. Palin abused her power in a state official's firing but

did

> not violate the law, an Alaska legislative panel finds.

>

>

[Guest guest]

My mother was raised in the Assemblies of God church. I spent most of my summers with her mother, my beloved grandmother, because my dad trucked, spent most of his paycheck on himself frivolously before even returning home to us. My mother therefor had to work FT. Something very few mothers did during that generation. Anyway, because she couldn't afford a sitter, we spent the summers with my grandmother and her two youngest children. (my mother was the oldest of ten) We all attended my grandmother's church together. She was a devote Christian who loved her God and all of God's children more than anyone else I've ever known! She didn't judge, either, but loved all desite our obvious flaws and inadequecies. Yes, some spoke in tongues there. My grandmother never did but accepted others her were moved to do so. Yes, they believed in faith healing, too. Yes, the minister prayed over his members in time of need.

Witch doctors are an element and tool of the DEVIL. You can keep your inflamatory, offensive, mindless, biases to yourself, thank you very much! BTW, my grandmother would have allowed you to pass judgment on her and still loved you as one of God's children, never uttering a disrespectful or cruel word!

Your so-called-facts are virtually half truths.

Lin

>> She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that child. He> will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She> clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one was a> violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is pregnant> at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you definitely have> your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak in> tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the natives> why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an> appropriate education.>

[Guest guest]

Have any of you ever considered that the step-son this trooper admitted to tasering is the thirteen year old with autism???

> >> >> >> > She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that> > child. He> >> > will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She> >> > clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one> > was a> >> > violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is> > pregnant> >> > at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you> > definitely have> >> > your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak> > in> >> > tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the> > natives> >> > why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an> >> > appropriate education.> >> >> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Lin, I don't hold it against Palin for being pissed off about what

this trooper did. But she didn't turn her ire into policy on many

occasions.

Jim Gottstein, after lobbying Palin and her administration for a long

time on the issue without getting any response, is currently suing

Palin and the state of Alaska for the huge numbers of children-- who

we must imagine are often disabled and autistic-- who've been placed

or snatched into instititional care and are being drugged half to

death. Gottstein had nothing against Palin, even wrote in his press

release that Palin's administration may simply not have informed her,

but the fact remains that nothing had been done by her to help the

situation.

Furthermore, when Palin was a mayor, Palin saw to it that rape

victims in her jurisdiction- many of them poor- had to pay for their

own $1,400 forensic rape kits in order to prove their testimony. This

went against state law and is nearly unprecedented that this would

not be paid for by police or the state, but Palin defended the

decision, stating that this kept taxes down.

Many people can show one set of ethics when it comes to them and

theirs and another for others. Maybe having a child with Downs (and

possibly autism-- I've never seen such an inanimate baby in my life)

might sensitize Palin but seeing her autistic nephew tasered didn't

sensitize her to the larger problem of abuse of disabled or

disadvantaged children at the hands of who were supposed to protect

and care for them, so I don't know what to expect from her.

> > >> >

> > >> > She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting

that

> > > child. He

> > >> > will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-

trots.

> She

> > >> > clearly has not been very present in the life of her two

eldest,

> one

> > > was a

> > >> > violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the

other

> is

> > > pregnant

> > >> > at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

> > > definitely have

> > >> > your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where

they

> speak

> > > in

> > >> > tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there,

ask

> the

> > > natives

> > >> > why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state

for

> an

> > >> > appropriate education.

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This

was a good question Lin.  Mike Wooten though, was married to Molly Palin McCann

and the sister with the child with Autism is Bruce.  Not to say that

his actions weren't deplorable.  -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Public_Safety_Commissioner_dismissal

Background

In 1999, Palin's sister Molly McCann

and Mike Wooten began dating.[19] In 2000, Palin wrote a character reference for Wooten.[20] In 2001, Wooten became an Alaska State Trooper.[21] Also in 2001, McCann and Wooten got married. In January

2005, they were separated.[19]

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Lin

Wessels

Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:07 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: was-Hannity interview last

night-diane/maureen-Obama disability/autism plans

Have any of you ever

considered that the step-son this trooper admitted to tasering is the thirteen

year old with autism???

> >> >

> >> > She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting

that

> > child. He

> >> > will probably be in the care of some nanny while she

globe-trots. She

> >> > clearly has not been very present in the life of her two

eldest, one

> > was a

> >> > violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the

other is

> > pregnant

> >> > at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

> > definitely have

> >> > your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where

they speak

> > in

> >> > tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there,

ask the

> > natives

> >> > why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state

for an

> >> > appropriate education.

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

RE: The "tone" of this conversation, all I have to say is ...... people do you SEE what the EVIL of autism does to a group of normally like-minded people???????Look at the divisiveness in a community who are anti-vaccine, anti-pharma, anti-environmental toxins, etc. This pisses me off. If Satan is not at work in every aspect of this political division, then I don't know how to convince anyone of this possibility. The ND group is going to be reveling in their hatred of us. And.... guess what? No WIN for us because "US" will no longer exist.Let's think about this some more.Roxp.s. I am going to be praying for every single one of you and I don't care if you believe in my God.

[Guest guest]

Sorry this brought me around on this. Can you give me more information

on this piece. I'd like to look into this more.

Thanks,

Carolyn

>

>

> Have any of you ever considered that the step-son this trooper

admitted

> to tasering is the thirteen year old with autism???

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, now stop the crap please! You are not only insulting Palin, but

every working mother, and father on this site. Let's face it how many

of us spend evey second of our lives with our special needs children.

Like for example, when we spend tons of time on the computer for

example. Would anyone say that, was a problem. Get past the cheap

shots and stick with the issues please. That's the one thing I hate

about this list, wasted time, and very talented energy, sometimes on

people speaking crap before they think first.

>

> She's not going to learn much of anything about parenting that

child. He

> will probably be in the care of some nanny while she globe-trots. She

> clearly has not been very present in the life of her two eldest, one

was a

> violent addict who has been kicked out of school, and the other is

pregnant

> at 17. If those are the family values you support, then you

definitely have

> your candidate. For fun, you can attend her church, where they speak

in

> tongues and get blessed by witch doctors.While you're there, ask the

natives

> why their special needs kids have to be shipped out of state for an

> appropriate education.

>

[Guest guest]

If I were her, I wouldn't go on SNL for the way they've treated her.

> >> > They just announced it- it¹s all over the news:> > > > -- Gov. Palin abused her power in a state official's firing > but did> > not violate the law, an Alaska legislative panel finds.-snip-

{PEOPLE--PLEASE TRIM YOUR RESPONSES.-- List Host}

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the reality check!!

Lin

> >> > They just announced it- it¹s all over the news:> > > > -- Gov. Palin abused her power in a state official's firing but > did> > not violate the law, an Alaska legislative panel finds.> > > >>

[Guest guest]

More half truths.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_sarah_palin_make_rape_victims_pay.html

Until we cut through the BS we are going to get no where.

I'm ashamed at how our community has turned their backs on someone who only wanted to help. I'm embarassed as well.

Lin

>> Lin, I don't hold it against Palin for being pissed off about what > this trooper did. But she didn't turn her ire into policy on many {PEOPLE--PLEASE TRIM YOUR RESPONSES.-- List Host}

[Guest guest]

Diane – I don’t know about you, but I only spend time on the

computer when my daughter is otherwise engaged in therapy, school, recreating

with sibs or friends, spending time with her daddy, or sleeping.

Bottom line is I call them like I see them. I’m sorry you do

not like it – you are entitled to your opinion. Mine was formed in a week I

spend near Wasilla.

For the record, I DID think first. To your point, we are all

smart people and as such should inquire beyond the headlines; this is why we

are members of this list. Often we agree with what others post, sometimes

not. I don’t believe it is a waste of time to know how a woman who could end

up our president operates. Maybe you have knowledge of some amazing thing she

has done with or for her own children or those of Wasilla or even those of

Alaska. Please post this, I’d like to know.

Thanks,

Liz P