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In a message dated 8/26/2004 3:49:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kbamenabar@... writes:

feel like I'm letting go of some lifeline or not being a good enough

mother by stopping therapies

just because you stop private therapy for awhile doesn't mean that you

can't continue to work at home on the techniques you have learned. Practice

never hurts anyone and you can make it into more of fun time together than a

sceduled therapy session. Try it for awhile and then if you feel you need to

start back then do so. The one thing you don't want to start doing is laying a

guilt trip at your feet. None of us are perfect and we all learn by trial

and error. We are parents, we are not fortune tellers, do what you think is

best in this time of your lives and then be willing to make changes if

necessary.

I think the Serenity Prayer especially the first stanza says it all:

God grant me the serenity

to accept the things I cannot change;

courage to change the things I can;

and wisdom to know the difference.

Carol

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

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Kim,

We dropped our extra ST because the therapist was going to have a baby

and quit for a while. We were upset (I sympathize with the lifeline

analogy!) because she had worked with our daughter, Ellen, for several

years. However, I don't think she was progressing as much there, and

definitely not at school, at the time. Ellen did start to progress

with her school teachers and therapists once they found the autism

piece of the puzzle AND found techniques that work for her. We're not

pursuing extra ST now because we're probably moving in a year or two,

and that's about how long it takes Ellen to develop a relationship - I

don't think it would do any good. Maybe I'm wrong, but Ellen is doing

well at school and I think she's getting enough there for the time being.

We also have Ellen in dance/motion therapy once a week for 45 min.

It's supposed to help her with body awareness and control (and be fun

- Ellen has a good time there). We have continued to see progress

there, to a degree, but are continuing that more because it is fun for

Ellen, and it's something I don't think she could get in any other

kids dance class or sport.

You shouldn't feel like a bad mother - if it's not working, and things

aren't working at school either, it may be time to focus efforts at

school to find techniques that DO work. Once that's done, then you'll

be well armed with ideas for extra therapy. I am alarmed that they

were both so ready to quit for a while - do you think maybe both are

suffering from a little (but completely understandable) burnout and

are trying to reduce their client base? Or did they give another

reason why?

Hope this helps! But please take it with a grain of salt - I know

that each of our kids is quite individual.

(Mom to Ellen, 7, DS/autism)

> I have a question about therapies (mostly speech and OT). My son is 7

> and we have been doing private speech and sensory integration based OT

> for a little over 2 years. He gets each of them weekly in addition to

> his school based OT, PT, and speech. We have been seeing little or no

> progress during the last 2 years and were thinking about cutting

back to

> every other week. When I told the OT she concurred. Then the speech

> therapist said she thought he could do without speech for awhile. I

> don't know why but it was so upsetting to besically hear that there is

> nothing these people can do for us anymore. I know I can go out and

> find other therapists but in reality, both of them are truly caring

> professionals who have painstakingly built a relationship with my son.

> The speech therapist is well recognized in the area and has been

> fantastic with us. She is incredibly respectful of and has

> travelled over 30 minutes to visit his school and consult with his

> teachers. She works with me on his IEP (all of this at no charge).

Iit

> wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that BOTH of them (they

> are not affiliated) are basically saying the same thing. So my

question

> is: have any of you had any success with therapies? How long did you

> continue? How often?

>

> I should be relieved that I don't have to do so much driving around but

> I feel like I'm letting go of some lifeline or not being a good enough

> mother by stopping therapies. Is it worth it?

>

> Kim Amenabar

> mom to (7-DS & ASD) and Klaudia (10)

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Hi Kim -

For what it's worth, we are in exactly the same place. We're just

starting private speech back up after a 6-month break, but I'm mostly

doing it because I feel like I should rather than because I saw any

progress or breakthroughs in our years of therapy.

On the other hand, this summer we hired 2 " tutors " instead of doing

private therapies. Both are preschool teachers during the school year.

One is Max's regular-year teacher and was paid for by the school

district under " bridge services " on Max's IEP. The other is a friend of

hers who I am paying out-of-pocket. They have been a life-saver this

summer--especially after I pulled Max out of summer school after a week

because it was academically worthless and downright unsafe. After Max

got used to the routine, he has been willing to work with the tutors on

Speech, OT, and PT activities--done at home and in a playful way. They

each came twice a week for 1 hour--so Max had someone visit 4 out of 5

days a week at a total cost much less than 1 hour of private therapy.

Good luck.

Sharon

(Mom to Max, 5 and Zoe, 2)

On Aug 26, 2004, at 3:46 PM, Kim & Bernardo Amenabar wrote:

> I have a question about therapies (mostly speech and OT). My son is 7

> and we have been doing private speech and sensory integration based OT

> for a little over 2 years. He gets each of them weekly in addition to

> his school based OT, PT, and speech. We have been seeing little or no

> progress during the last 2 years and were thinking about cutting back

> to

> every other week. When I told the OT she concurred. Then the speech

> therapist said she thought he could do without speech for awhile. I

> don't know why but it was so upsetting to besically hear that there is

> nothing these people can do for us anymore. I know I can go out and

> find other therapists but in reality, both of them are truly caring

> professionals who have painstakingly built a relationship with my son.

> The speech therapist is well recognized in the area and has been

> fantastic with us. She is incredibly respectful of and has

> travelled over 30 minutes to visit his school and consult with his

> teachers. She works with me on his IEP (all of this at no charge).

> Iit

> wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that BOTH of them (they

> are not affiliated) are basically saying the same thing. So my

> question

> is: have any of you had any success with therapies? How long did you

> continue? How often?

>

> I should be relieved that I don't have to do so much driving around but

> I feel like I'm letting go of some lifeline or not being a good enough

> mother by stopping therapies. Is it worth it?

>

> Kim Amenabar

> mom to (7-DS & ASD) and Klaudia (10)

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kim,

The same thing happened to us about the speech. We only did it for

one summer with Rochelle. The speech person suggested that she did

not have the equipment and that Rochelle would benefit from a more

sensory approach with large motor and fine motor integrated with the

speech therapy. I agreed with her assessment. She suggested using

swings, trampolines, etc...Your experience is disappointing since

you mentioned you were already using a sensory approach. It still

hurt to hear but I appreciated the therapist not wasting our time.

Maybe it is time to try something different that you can see

progress on. I give you credit for your patience.

I know moms on this list have tried many things. The ABA/VB approach

has worked for some. I have personally changed Rochelle's diet and

that has improved her eye contact and sleep habits. Small steps. The

PECS training helps communication. The biggest thing though hard to

do is the (affect) used with speech. Exaggerating and being playful.

I find it difficult to interact with Rochelle because of her

indifference. I just do the best I can and still have a life that

doesn't center around my kids all the time.

You are a great mom Kim. I try not to compare myself against other

moms but we all do the best we can.

Diane :)

> I have a question about therapies (mostly speech and OT). My son

is 7

> and we have been doing private speech and sensory integration

based OT

> for a little over 2 years. He gets each of them weekly in

addition to

> his school based OT, PT, and speech. We have been seeing little

or no

> progress during the last 2 years and were thinking about cutting

back to

> every other week. When I told the OT she concurred. Then the

speech

> therapist said she thought he could do without speech for awhile.

I

> don't know why but it was so upsetting to besically hear that

there is

> nothing these people can do for us anymore. I know I can go out

and

> find other therapists but in reality, both of them are truly

caring

> professionals who have painstakingly built a relationship with my

son.

> The speech therapist is well recognized in the area and has been

> fantastic with us. She is incredibly respectful of and

has

> travelled over 30 minutes to visit his school and consult with his

> teachers. She works with me on his IEP (all of this at no

charge). Iit

> wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that BOTH of them

(they

> are not affiliated) are basically saying the same thing. So my

question

> is: have any of you had any success with therapies? How long did

you

> continue? How often?

>

> I should be relieved that I don't have to do so much driving

around but

> I feel like I'm letting go of some lifeline or not being a good

enough

> mother by stopping therapies. Is it worth it?

>

> Kim Amenabar

> mom to (7-DS & ASD) and Klaudia (10)

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what about that speech guy just for kids with autism and disabilities james

mcdonald, i do beleive he has his own website, and a group here on

yahoogroups, he gave us some very good ideas and his echo videos are great

and he also has some books i am told are very good, his techniques are fun

and often productive. shawna

Re: Therapies

> Hi Kim,

>

> The same thing happened to us about the speech. We only did it for

> one summer with Rochelle. The speech person suggested that she did

> not have the equipment and that Rochelle would benefit from a more

> sensory approach with large motor and fine motor integrated with the

> speech therapy. I agreed with her assessment. She suggested using

> swings, trampolines, etc...Your experience is disappointing since

> you mentioned you were already using a sensory approach. It still

> hurt to hear but I appreciated the therapist not wasting our time.

>

> Maybe it is time to try something different that you can see

> progress on. I give you credit for your patience.

>

> I know moms on this list have tried many things. The ABA/VB approach

> has worked for some. I have personally changed Rochelle's diet and

> that has improved her eye contact and sleep habits. Small steps. The

> PECS training helps communication. The biggest thing though hard to

> do is the (affect) used with speech. Exaggerating and being playful.

> I find it difficult to interact with Rochelle because of her

> indifference. I just do the best I can and still have a life that

> doesn't center around my kids all the time.

>

> You are a great mom Kim. I try not to compare myself against other

> moms but we all do the best we can.

> Diane :)

>

>

>

> > I have a question about therapies (mostly speech and OT). My son

> is 7

> > and we have been doing private speech and sensory integration

> based OT

> > for a little over 2 years. He gets each of them weekly in

> addition to

> > his school based OT, PT, and speech. We have been seeing little

> or no

> > progress during the last 2 years and were thinking about cutting

> back to

> > every other week. When I told the OT she concurred. Then the

> speech

> > therapist said she thought he could do without speech for awhile.

> I

> > don't know why but it was so upsetting to besically hear that

> there is

> > nothing these people can do for us anymore. I know I can go out

> and

> > find other therapists but in reality, both of them are truly

> caring

> > professionals who have painstakingly built a relationship with my

> son.

> > The speech therapist is well recognized in the area and has been

> > fantastic with us. She is incredibly respectful of and

> has

> > travelled over 30 minutes to visit his school and consult with his

> > teachers. She works with me on his IEP (all of this at no

> charge). Iit

> > wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that BOTH of them

> (they

> > are not affiliated) are basically saying the same thing. So my

> question

> > is: have any of you had any success with therapies? How long did

> you

> > continue? How often?

> >

> > I should be relieved that I don't have to do so much driving

> around but

> > I feel like I'm letting go of some lifeline or not being a good

> enough

> > mother by stopping therapies. Is it worth it?

> >

> > Kim Amenabar

> > mom to (7-DS & ASD) and Klaudia (10)

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------

> Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos

of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by

including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the

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> --------------------------------------------

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