Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 wow does this bring back memories, we had the same kind of problems before I became more active as Trisha's advocate. I = individualized E= Education P= Plan they are not to focus on all the other students, only your son in his IEP! What they are doing is sometimes referred to as a cookie-cutter IEP and that isn't good. If he isn't mastering the skills then they need to rethink the goals and maybe break the steps down even further or even change the goals if that is what is needed. As far as the drinking water with 80 percent acuaracy, tell them to..... oh never mind that isn't nice but I bet it would sure feel good telling them how you honestly think, lol. But back to the goal, take pictures or video etc of him drinking and then take it to the next meeting and say that he has mastered this skill now if they want to elaborate on it with maybe getting the drink himself (pouring into glass etc) otherwise you feel he has mastered that skill and it needs to come off. They tried that with Trisha on eating with a fork and spoon which she had been doing for years, they just didn't want to have to really work with her so her IEP's reflected their half-hearted attempts at creating a working IEP, one to which would be easy for them and accomplish nothing for her. Not any more... moma questions and if I don't get the right answers then we go back to the drawing board. 's law will give you some very good advice on cookie-cutter IEP's and what is supposed to go into an IEP. Carol She isn't Typical, She's Trisha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Well now I feel even more stupid than I already did. Its amazing how I thought I was his advocate all these years and I realize I havent been..what is all the work I think I have done?? This is NOT a defensive remark to your comment, I am indeed furious at myself. My son is 12..and if after all this time I havent managed to " get " the whole IEP thing..then what the hell have I done?? I remembered a time when I studied these things..or so I thought. But the positive thing is this. You have validated the fact that it IS supposed to be about him. At least I had assumed the right thing, even if I didnt do it. I am so embarrassed:( I will look into s law and see what it says. Now I am going to go hang my head in shame:( Thanks for your advice, maybe now I can get on the right track...after 12 years its been more than enough time. Marie Mom to 12 with DS poss OCD and bi-polar > wow does this bring back memories, we had the same kind of problems before I > became more active as Trisha's advocate. > > I = individualized E= Education P= Plan > > they are not to focus on all the other students, only your son in his IEP! > > What they are doing is sometimes referred to as a cookie-cutter IEP and that > isn't good. If he isn't mastering the skills then they need to rethink the > goals and maybe break the steps down even further or even change the goals if > that is what is needed. As far as the drinking water with 80 percent > acuaracy, tell them to..... oh never mind that isn't nice but I bet it would sure > feel good telling them how you honestly think, lol. But back to the goal, > take pictures or video etc of him drinking and then take it to the next meeting > and say that he has mastered this skill now if they want to elaborate on it > with maybe getting the drink himself (pouring into glass etc) otherwise you > feel he has mastered that skill and it needs to come off. They tried that with > Trisha on eating with a fork and spoon which she had been doing for years, > they just didn't want to have to really work with her so her IEP's reflected > their half-hearted attempts at creating a working IEP, one to which would be > easy for them and accomplish nothing for her. Not any more... moma questions > and if I don't get the right answers then we go back to the drawing board. > 's law will give you some very good advice on cookie-cutter IEP's and > what is supposed to go into an IEP. > > Carol > She isn't Typical, She's Trisha! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 In a message dated 6/7/2004 10:18:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, chiani72@... writes: But the positive thing is this. You have validated the fact that it IS supposed to be about him. At least I had assumed the right thing, even if I didnt do it. I am so embarrassed:( Don't be embarrassed, Marie. I work with Maddie's teacher and therapists weeks before the IEP, so that the goals are designed BY ME. They are actually very grateful for that. But we do work together; I call it brainstorming. Her last IEP (previous teacher) was horrible and I practically re-wrote the entire thing. The teacher knew it, too, and even apologized to me for *a badly written IEP*. Charlyne and Carol have offered you good, sound advice. Don't beat yourself up; just move forward. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Don't take it out on yourself. This whole process is difficult. There are still times that things can get overwhelming for even the " most experienced " special needs parent, especially when we have to do everything oursleves, married or single. Ask for help from other parents that have " been there, done that " and are willing to help you advocate for your child. In my experience, most parents are willing to help others. We are a special group of parents. When we have a special needs child we tend to not only want to advocate for our own, but others as well because we are not only advocating for our own children, but all special needs children. > Well now I feel even more stupid than I already did. Its amazing how > I thought I was his advocate all these years and I realize I havent > been..what is all the work I think I have done?? > > This is NOT a defensive remark to your comment, I am indeed furious > at myself. My son is 12..and if after all this time I havent managed > to " get " the whole IEP thing..then what the hell have I done?? > I remembered a time when I studied these things..or so I thought. > > But the positive thing is this. You have validated the fact that it > IS supposed to be about him. At least I had assumed the right thing, > even if I didnt do it. I am so embarrassed:( > > I will look into s law and see what it says. Now I am going to > go hang my head in shame:( > > Thanks for your advice, maybe now I can get on the right > track...after 12 years its been more than enough time. > > Marie > Mom to 12 with DS poss OCD and bi-polar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 the IEP isnt viable, leagal until you sign it. and the goals sound like they need to be broken down more for success or just changed entirely, i would really review it, and make changes wehre needed. No one should have the same goals for several years, espeically unmet ones. shawna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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