Re: please clarify about CEUs for recertification

[Guest guest]

I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.

I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!

Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,

I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?

It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right

now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.

(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.You can contact ATCB at for any other questions.

I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotesgmail wrote:

I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!

Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,

I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?

It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right

now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.

(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

The question of CEUs is important. They demonstrate the importance of keeping up with the literature. That NYS does not require them makes me question the State Ed's supposed concern for the consumer. That along with the reality that the Regulatory Board has proposed an amendment to lower the academic requirements for the LCAT shows even less concern for the clients we serve.When we asked about the lack of CE requirements in the original LCAT legislation, Hamilton repeatedly stated that the State does not care what the national organizations require or approve. A look at the make-up of the three CAT representatives on the regulatory board suggests otherwise. Two are music therapists. One is an art therapist.Admittedly, I have not been involved in this process. I would not even know about the proposed amendments were it not for a well meaning music therapist who did her duty and posted the message from the National Association of Music Therapists (NAMT) on her FB page. NAMT is a large organization with a paid Executive Director. With people paid to look out for their own and a major imbalance on the regulatory board that favors music therapists, we need to look into the process that led to this denigrating proposal. It panders to the one national organization that certifies people at the BA level and comforts people involved in regulation who have never understood the depth of our work.If you care about our standards, the depth of the work we do, and the quality of services we offer the consumers of NYS, let's get busy, create letters together that we can send to our legislators, write to the media, use social networking, and everything else we can find, to address this insulting proposal — one that hurts providers and clients alike.NYCCAT Board members: The Rochester Chapter has managed to get a conference going for next week. Apparently, that was not true for folks downstate. Something went wrong. Also, you did not keep us informed about the amendment process. If you have been working on it, you did not share any of that with us. So let's turn the corner and work together. Let's organize and get down state CATs working as hard as those of us in western NY. We have shared concerns. with the protection of NYS residents being our highest priority.Sincerely,Dani Fraenkel __________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.You can contact ATCB at for any other questions. I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotesgmail wrote: I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)Thank you,

[Guest guest]

The information below is for Art Therapists in regards to Board Certification

requirements with the ATCB and not LCATs.

Take care,

Chriss

I'm on the go so this was sent from my Centro.

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Subj: Re: please clarify about CEUs for recertification

Date: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:41 pm

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As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and

obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up

with instructions to keep your license.

You can contact ATCB at for any other questions.

On Apr 18, 2010, at 12:00 PM, son CAT

wrote:

I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT

license, only for ATR-BC.

I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed

my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on

the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me

know if I'm mistaken!

Thanks.

--

Shoshana Averbach

MSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healer

healingnotes.com

Hello, Everyone,

I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT

re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?

It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now-

but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.

(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a

2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS( a total of 6hrs)

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

le,-The satellite chapter in Rochester exists because I, with the support of the Board "down state" initiated an outreach to certain locations in NY and was fortunate to connect with CATs in Rochester who were willing to start a Chapter. This is no time to start creating a competition between upstate and downstate which your comments encourage. -The decision to reschedule the NYCCAT conference in NYC was not because something went "wrong" but because something(s) went right for the Board and NYCCAT in general. With the organizational and LCAT information that is going to be presented at the NYC conference, it would not have made sense to hold both conferences on the same day and ask CATs to choose between the two. Since we are new at having a satellite chapter, this is something we learned along the way which is part of the process of expanding from a handful of Board members to as it stands, 12 currently, which in itself is a miracle.We are aware of the current amendment and have been aware of the make-up of the State Board however, without a lobbyist, our needs as a profession are going to require to effort of a small army of CATs to ensure the standardization of Creative Arts Therapy as a Master's level profession, potential development of continuing education standards, and the qualification of those who supervise CATs. I can assure you, this is the short list of things we must accomplish to move forward and be on par with other licensed professions in NY State. Our actual to-do list is very long so may I suggest that you either actively and directly get involved with helping NYCCAT or that you take the time to ask for clarification from the Board before publicly criticizing those who are the few working on behalf of the many CATs in NY State.Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCATNYCCAT President The question of CEUs is important. They demonstrate the importance of keeping up with the literature. That NYS does not require them makes me question the State Ed's supposed concern for the consumer. That along with the reality that the Regulatory Board has proposed an amendment to lower the academic requirements for the LCAT shows even less concern for the clients we serve.When we asked about the lack of CE requirements in the original LCAT legislation, Hamilton repeatedly stated that the State does not care what the national organizations require or approve. A look at the make-up of the three CAT representatives on the regulatory board suggests otherwise. Two are music therapists. One is an art therapist.Admittedly, I have not been involved in this process. I would not even know about the proposed amendments were it not for a well meaning music therapist who did her duty and posted the message from the National Association of Music Therapists (NAMT) on her FB page. NAMT is a large organization with a paid Executive Director. With people paid to look out for their own and a major imbalance on the regulatory board that favors music therapists, we need to look into the process that led to this denigrating proposal. It panders to the one national organization that certifies people at the BA level and comforts people involved in regulation who have never understood the depth of our work.If you care about our standards, the depth of the work we do, and the quality of services we offer the consumers of NYS, let's get busy, create letters together that we can send to our legislators, write to the media, use social networking, and everything else we can find, to address this insulting proposal — one that hurts providers and clients alike.NYCCAT Board members: The Rochester Chapter has managed to get a conference going for next week. Apparently, that was not true for folks downstate. Something went wrong. Also, you did not keep us informed about the amendment process. If you have been working on it, you did not share any of that with us. So let's turn the corner and work together. Let's organize and get down state CATs working as hard as those of us in western NY. We have shared concerns. with the protection of NYS residents being our highest priority.Sincerely,Dani Fraenkel__________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.You can contact ATCB at for any other questions. I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotesgmail wrote: I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)Thank you,

[Guest guest]

I was not thinking competitively. Sorry if you interpreted it that way. I was bothered that you had cancelled your program after our local conference coordinators worked so hard to get the local conference set up for April 24 so that it would mesh with your conference. (I was not part of that amazing work.) The time and energy the conference chairs put into organizing and publicizing the conference was remarkable. Considering all the Rochester conference committee had done to parallel the NYC conference, I was surprised by the recent announcement relaying the downstate cancellation. I recalled that a call for presentations for the NYC conference had appeared on the list only a few days before the cancellation. With the request for presentations being relayed so late in the game and the cancellation happening so soon after, I assumed that something had gone awry. Apologies, if I was wrong. I understand now that you cancelled the NYC conference because of a conflict, but I am not sure to what conflicting event you are referring. Do you mean the Rochester conference or is there a conflict with another organization in NYC? I appreciate your reference to the miracle of 12 and your years of dedication to the field. Having been on the Boards of a number of organizations, I know how hard it is to get people to do the work. It would help, though, if those of us who are out-of-the loop, whether we volunteer our services or not, could be better informed about NYCCAT's to do list. If that were the case, miscommunications like the one we just had would be less likely to occur. Also, more people might want to get involved. A monthly announcement would suffice. Sincerely,le __________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com le,-The satellite chapter in Rochester exists because I, with the support of the Board "down state" initiated an outreach to certain locations in NY and was fortunate to connect with CATs in Rochester who were willing to start a Chapter. This is no time to start creating a competition between upstate and downstate which your comments encourage. -The decision to reschedule the NYCCAT conference in NYC was not because something went "wrong" but because something(s) went right for the Board and NYCCAT in general. With the organizational and LCAT information that is going to be presented at the NYC conference, it would not have made sense to hold both conferences on the same day and ask CATs to choose between the two. Since we are new at having a satellite chapter, this is something we learned along the way which is part of the process of expanding from a handful of Board members to as it stands, 12 currently, which in itself is a miracle.We are aware of the current amendment and have been aware of the make-up of the State Board however, without a lobbyist, our needs as a profession are going to require to effort of a small army of CATs to ensure the standardization of Creative Arts Therapy as a Master's level profession, potential development of continuing education standards, and the qualification of those who supervise CATs. I can assure you, this is the short list of things we must accomplish to move forward and be on par with other licensed professions in NY State. Our actual to-do list is very long so may I suggest that you either actively and directly get involved with helping NYCCAT or that you take the time to ask for clarification from the Board before publicly criticizing those who are the few working on behalf of the many CATs in NY State.Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCATNYCCAT President The question of CEUs is important. They demonstrate the importance of keeping up with the literature. That NYS does not require them makes me question the State Ed's supposed concern for the consumer. That along with the reality that the Regulatory Board has proposed an amendment to lower the academic requirements for the LCAT shows even less concern for the clients we serve.When we asked about the lack of CE requirements in the original LCAT legislation, Hamilton repeatedly stated that the State does not care what the national organizations require or approve. A look at the make-up of the three CAT representatives on the regulatory board suggests otherwise. Two are music therapists. One is an art therapist.Admittedly, I have not been involved in this process. I would not even know about the proposed amendments were it not for a well meaning music therapist who did her duty and posted the message from the National Association of Music Therapists (NAMT) on her FB page. NAMT is a large organization with a paid Executive Director. With people paid to look out for their own and a major imbalance on the regulatory board that favors music therapists, we need to look into the process that led to this denigrating proposal. It panders to the one national organization that certifies people at the BA level and comforts people involved in regulation who have never understood the depth of our work.If you care about our standards, the depth of the work we do, and the quality of services we offer the consumers of NYS, let's get busy, create letters together that we can send to our legislators, write to the media, use social networking, and everything else we can find, to address this insulting proposal — one that hurts providers and clients alike.NYCCAT Board members: The Rochester Chapter has managed to get a conference going for next week. Apparently, that was not true for folks downstate. Something went wrong. Also, you did not keep us informed about the amendment process. If you have been working on it, you did not share any of that with us. So let's turn the corner and work together. Let's organize and get down state CATs working as hard as those of us in western NY. We have shared concerns. with the protection of NYS residents being our highest priority.Sincerely,Dani Fraenkel__________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.You can contact ATCB at for any other questions. I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotesgmail wrote: I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)Thank you,

[Guest guest]

le,In the afternoon of the NYC conference there will be a panel presentation regarding the shaping of NYCCAT as a 501.c4 organization and the LCAT. Based on what each conference site was able to coordinate for the day and how the timing of planning occurred, we as a collective Board decided that it would be better to separate the dates (now and in future years) so that CATs could attend both conference dates rather than having to pick one or the other. This does not diminish or undermine the work of Rochester's planning committee but instead supports it, making it possible for someone attending, presenting (such as yourself), or planning the Rochester date to also attend the NYC date, again, instead of having to pick one or the other. We made the best decision possible with what we had to work with and would appreciate your support rather than public criticism of a process you have acknowledged, did not participate in. We will be happy to provide updates on the NYCCAT e-group as soon as we have the information and ability to do so. I think it would be fair to say that over the years the NYCCAT Board has sent many updates to membership, has held open Board meetings, and the emails to NYCCAT keep rolling in to the NYCCAT email address and to individual Board members. In the next month or so things will become more clear in regards to the NYCCAT to-do list and ways in which people can participate. Take care,Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCATNYCCAT President I was not thinking competitively. Sorry if you interpreted it that way. I was bothered that you had cancelled your program after our local conference coordinators worked so hard to get the local conference set up for April 24 so that it would mesh with your conference. (I was not part of that amazing work.) The time and energy the conference chairs put into organizing and publicizing the conference was remarkable. Considering all the Rochester conference committee had done to parallel the NYC conference, I was surprised by the recent announcement relaying the downstate cancellation. I recalled that a call for presentations for the NYC conference had appeared on the list only a few days before the cancellation. With the request for presentations being relayed so late in the game and the cancellation happening so soon after, I assumed that something had gone awry. Apologies, if I was wrong. I understand now that you cancelled the NYC conference because of a conflict, but I am not sure to what conflicting event you are referring. Do you mean the Rochester conference or is there a conflict with another organization in NYC? I appreciate your reference to the miracle of 12 and your years of dedication to the field. Having been on the Boards of a number of organizations, I know how hard it is to get people to do the work. It would help, though, if those of us who are out-of-the loop, whether we volunteer our services or not, could be better informed about NYCCAT's to do list. If that were the case, miscommunications like the one we just had would be less likely to occur. Also, more people might want to get involved. A monthly announcement would suffice. Sincerely,le__________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com le,-The satellite chapter in Rochester exists because I, with the support of the Board "down state" initiated an outreach to certain locations in NY and was fortunate to connect with CATs in Rochester who were willing to start a Chapter. This is no time to start creating a competition between upstate and downstate which your comments encourage. -The decision to reschedule the NYCCAT conference in NYC was not because something went "wrong" but because something(s) went right for the Board and NYCCAT in general. With the organizational and LCAT information that is going to be presented at the NYC conference, it would not have made sense to hold both conferences on the same day and ask CATs to choose between the two. Since we are new at having a satellite chapter, this is something we learned along the way which is part of the process of expanding from a handful of Board members to as it stands, 12 currently, which in itself is a miracle.We are aware of the current amendment and have been aware of the make-up of the State Board however, without a lobbyist, our needs as a profession are going to require to effort of a small army of CATs to ensure the standardization of Creative Arts Therapy as a Master's level profession, potential development of continuing education standards, and the qualification of those who supervise CATs. I can assure you, this is the short list of things we must accomplish to move forward and be on par with other licensed professions in NY State. Our actual to-do list is very long so may I suggest that you either actively and directly get involved with helping NYCCAT or that you take the time to ask for clarification from the Board before publicly criticizing those who are the few working on behalf of the many CATs in NY State.Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCATNYCCAT President The question of CEUs is important. They demonstrate the importance of keeping up with the literature. That NYS does not require them makes me question the State Ed's supposed concern for the consumer. That along with the reality that the Regulatory Board has proposed an amendment to lower the academic requirements for the LCAT shows even less concern for the clients we serve.When we asked about the lack of CE requirements in the original LCAT legislation, Hamilton repeatedly stated that the State does not care what the national organizations require or approve. A look at the make-up of the three CAT representatives on the regulatory board suggests otherwise. Two are music therapists. One is an art therapist.Admittedly, I have not been involved in this process. I would not even know about the proposed amendments were it not for a well meaning music therapist who did her duty and posted the message from the National Association of Music Therapists (NAMT) on her FB page. NAMT is a large organization with a paid Executive Director. With people paid to look out for their own and a major imbalance on the regulatory board that favors music therapists, we need to look into the process that led to this denigrating proposal. It panders to the one national organization that certifies people at the BA level and comforts people involved in regulation who have never understood the depth of our work.If you care about our standards, the depth of the work we do, and the quality of services we offer the consumers of NYS, let's get busy, create letters together that we can send to our legislators, write to the media, use social networking, and everything else we can find, to address this insulting proposal — one that hurts providers and clients alike.NYCCAT Board members: The Rochester Chapter has managed to get a conference going for next week. Apparently, that was not true for folks downstate. Something went wrong. Also, you did not keep us informed about the amendment process. If you have been working on it, you did not share any of that with us. So let's turn the corner and work together. Let's organize and get down state CATs working as hard as those of us in western NY. We have shared concerns. with the protection of NYS residents being our highest priority.Sincerely,Dani Fraenkel__________________________________________________le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGPDirector,Kinectionsat Imagine Square718 University AvenueRochester, NY 14607USATel: FAX: www.kinections.com As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.You can contact ATCB at for any other questions. I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotesgmail wrote: I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of 6hrs)Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Hello Chriss, le, and all fellow CAT’s of NYCCAT! 

We just wanted to comment regarding some of the posts we’ve been reading today. It is a scary and frustrating time for our profession, and when there is fear and confusion, we have to join together to clarify the issues and be open to respectful communication and feedback....especially now, it is of utmost importance that we maintain solid and respectful communication with one another, to avoid branching off into individual disciplines. We are thrilled to be a chapter of the NYCCAT organization and hope the Board’s joint efforts, NYC and Rochester, will prove successful.  

The NYC conference will prove to be very fruitful in terms of offering the community a forum, support and answers to questions about licensure and the interpretation of these laws. Something Chriss, and the NYCCAT Parent organization has been working diligently on. The Rochester Conference will be an effort to introduce our presence and connect our Western NY community so that we can support and work together in the future. Each conference has its own exciting agenda and purpose, yet we are %100 working together as an organization for a common goal.

We would just like to say thank you to everyone who is supporting what we are doing as an organization, and please contact us if you would like to be part of the process because we cannot do it alone!!! 

 Thanks again,

& -Rochester Chapter Co-chairs  

 

le,

In the afternoon of the NYC conference there will be a panel presentation regarding the shaping of NYCCAT as a 501.c4 organization and the LCAT.  Based on what each conference site was able to coordinate for the day and how the timing of planning occurred, we as a collective Board decided that it would be better to separate the dates (now and in future years) so that CATs could attend both conference dates rather than having to pick one or the other. This does not diminish or undermine the work of Rochester's planning committee but instead supports it, making it possible for someone attending, presenting (such as yourself), or planning the Rochester date to also attend the NYC date, again, instead of having to pick one or the other. We made the best decision possible with what we had to work with and would appreciate your support rather than public criticism of a process you have acknowledged, did not participate in. 

We will be happy to provide updates on the NYCCAT e-group as soon as we have the information and ability to do so. I think it would be fair to say that over the years the NYCCAT Board has sent many updates to membership, has held open Board meetings, and the emails to NYCCAT keep rolling in to the NYCCAT email address and to individual Board members.  In the next month or so things will become more clear in regards to the NYCCAT to-do list and ways in which people can participate. 

Take care,

Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCAT

NYCCAT President 

I was not thinking competitively. Sorry if you interpreted it that way. I was bothered that you had cancelled your program after our local conference coordinators worked so hard to get the local conference set up for April 24 so that it would mesh with your conference. (I was not part of that amazing work.) The time and energy the conference chairs put into organizing and publicizing the conference was remarkable. 

Considering all the Rochester conference committee had done to parallel the NYC conference, I was surprised by the recent announcement relaying the downstate cancellation. I recalled that a call for presentations for the NYC conference had appeared on the list only a few days before the cancellation. With the request for presentations being relayed so late in the game and the cancellation happening so soon after, I assumed that something had gone awry. Apologies, if I was wrong. I understand now that you cancelled the NYC conference because of  a conflict, but I am not sure to what conflicting event you are referring. Do you mean the Rochester conference or is there a conflict with another organization in NYC?   

I appreciate your reference to the miracle of 12 and your years of dedication to the field. Having been on the Boards of a number of organizations, I know how hard it is to get people to do the work. It would help, though, if those of us who are out-of-the loop, whether we volunteer our services or not, could be better informed about NYCCAT's to do list. If that were the case, miscommunications like the one we just had would be less likely to occur. Also, more people might want to get involved. A monthly announcement would suffice. 

  

Sincerely,

le

__________________________________________________

le Fraenkel, Ph.D., BC-DMT, NCC, LCAT, LMHC, CGP

Director,

Kinections

at Imagine Square

718 University Avenue

Rochester, NY 14607

USA

Tel:

FAX:

www.kinections.com 

le,

-The satellite chapter in Rochester exists because I, with the support of the Board " down state " initiated an outreach to certain locations in NY and was fortunate to connect with CATs in Rochester who were willing to start a Chapter. This is no time to start creating a competition between upstate and downstate which your comments encourage. 

-The decision to reschedule the NYCCAT conference in NYC was not because something went " wrong " but because something(s) went right for the Board and NYCCAT in general. With the organizational and LCAT information that is going to be presented at the NYC conference, it would not have made sense to hold both conferences on the same day and ask CATs to choose between the two. Since we are new at having a satellite chapter, this is something we learned along the way which is part of the process of expanding from a handful of Board members to as it stands, 12 currently, which in itself is a miracle.

We are aware of the current amendment and have been aware of the make-up of the State Board however, without a lobbyist, our needs as a profession are going to require to effort of a small army of CATs to ensure the standardization of Creative Arts Therapy as a Master's level profession, potential development of continuing education standards, and the qualification of those who supervise CATs. I can assure you, this is the short list of things we must accomplish to move forward and be on par with other licensed professions in NY State. Our actual to-do list is very long so may I suggest that you either actively and directly get involved with helping NYCCAT or that you take the time to ask for clarification from the Board before publicly criticizing those who are the few working on behalf of the many CATs in NY State.

Chriss Berk, MA, ATR-BC, LPC, LCAT

NYCCAT President 

The question of CEUs is important. They demonstrate the importance of keeping up with the literature. That NYS does not require them makes me question the  State Ed's supposed concern for the consumer. That along with the reality that the Regulatory Board has proposed an amendment to lower the academic requirements for the LCAT shows even less concern for the clients we serve.

When we asked about the lack of CE requirements in the original LCAT legislation, Hamilton repeatedly stated that the State does not care what the national organizations require or approve. A look at the make-up of the three CAT representatives on the regulatory board suggests otherwise. Two are music therapists. One is an art therapist.

Admittedly, I have not been involved in this process. I would not even know about the proposed amendments were it not for a well meaning music therapist who did her duty and posted the message from the National Association of Music Therapists (NAMT) on her FB page. 

NAMT is a large organization with a paid Executive Director. With people paid to look out for their own and a major imbalance on the regulatory board that favors music therapists, we need to look into the process that led to this denigrating proposal. It panders to the one national organization that certifies people at the BA level and comforts people involved in regulation who have never understood the depth of our work.

If you care about our standards, the depth of the work we do, and the quality of services we offer the consumers of NYS, let's get busy, create letters together that we can send to our legislators, write to the media, use social networking, and everything else we can find, to address this insulting proposal — one that hurts providers and clients alike.

NYCCAT Board members: The Rochester Chapter has managed to get a conference going for next week. Apparently, that was not true for folks downstate. Something went wrong. Also, you did not keep us informed about the amendment process. If you have been working on it, you did not share any of that with us. So let's turn the corner and work together. Let's organize and get down state CATs working as hard as those of us in western NY. We have shared concerns. with the protection of NYS residents being our highest priority.

Sincerely,

Dani Fraenkel

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As Licensed Creative Arts Therapists we need to recertify every 5 years and obtain 100 CEC/CEU's, you will recieve the paperwork once your 5 years is up with instructions to keep your license.

You can contact ATCB at for any other questions. 

I believe you are correct, there is no recertification for the LCAT license, only for ATR-BC.

On Apr 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, healgnotes@... wrote:

 

I wasn't aware of CEUs requirement for recertification. When I renewed my LCAT in 2009, I just filled out a form and sent a check. I just checked on the Office of the Professions web site and couldn't find anything. Please let me know if I'm mistaken!

Thanks.-- Shoshana AverbachMSW, LMSW, MA, MT-BC, LCAT, Accredited Healerhealingnotes.comHello, Everyone,I am wondering if anyone knows about where to get ethics CEU for LCAT re-certification either on-line or a class in NYC or a near by?

It is a bit difficult for me right now to take a course for ethics right now- but a 1 day or wknd workshops or on line would work for me.(ATCB offers an on-line ethics CEU- and it is a 1 credit. Westchester's is a 2.5 CEUS. and I need more CEUS ( a total of  6hrs)

Thank you,

-- K