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Hello,

I just joined the list today. I read the archives for about two

hours. It seems I have things in common with some of you.

Alena is ten, and has the double whammy of Down Syndrome and

autistic tendencies. She has never been formally diagnosed. Her

current school teachers feel that a diagnosis won't change anything

for them. They will treat her the same and do the same things.

They are resistant to using labels, which I appreciate. However, I

have struggled with relating to other parents who have " typical "

children who have Down Sydrome. I have also felt powerless as to

knowing how, and having strength, to help Alena.

Alena is non-verbal and constantly pats her face. All her baby

dolls have no toes since she has chewed them off. She doesn't play

with toys as much as pat with toys. Library books are easily

destroyed around here. She is not very responsive. She regularly

has giggle-fits that last hours in the middle of the night. She

has " lucid " moments when she seems to connect with us, but most of

the time she is in her own world. She is very routine-oriented.

She doesn't do well with loud noises and some crowd situations. She

has a texture aversion problem. She is not toilet trained (I found

some good info to read up on in this site). Do these behaviors

sound like autism? I don't feel I need to label her necessarily,

but I want to understand her, know ways to teach her, and help

others understand.

About five years ago I was on a DS e-mail list. I felt awful

because I couldn't brag as much as most people. I didn't relate to

our local support group for similar reasons. For a couple of years

I pretty much gave up trying to give extra help to Alena. I let

school deal with her progress and concentrated on just loving and

taking care of her as I do my other children. But lately, I've been

wanting to do better, to do extra. I know there are things I can

do. I am tired of being ignorant.

Then I found this list. I'm already going to check out the chewy

tubes I read about in the archives. I already feel less alone and

more understood.

Alena's school had a PECs training session for parents that I

attended a few years ago. She started PECs but wasn't very

responsive to it. So, the teachers stopped using it for a while.

Now they are trying it again. I appreciated the posted info on

PECs. I think I'll send my husband to the training. I'm embarassed

that I didn't do much with it.

I related to the posts on guilt. I have been a deadbeat mom. I'm

sure your posts will help me find motivation to try harder.

Thanks,

Deb K

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i'm sorry you feel like a deadbeat mom...bet we have all had those feelings

from time to time. we can all just do what we can do and sometimes it is

easy to be motivated and sometimes it's not quite as easy. hope you get some

support through this list.

ps your name caught my eye...are you the deb koehler I may have known from

fairport, new york?

cheri

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>Subject: Learning

>Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:22:40 -0000

>

>

>Hello,

>

>I just joined the list today. I read the archives for about two

>hours. It seems I have things in common with some of you.

>

>Alena is ten, and has the double whammy of Down Syndrome and

>autistic tendencies. She has never been formally diagnosed. Her

>current school teachers feel that a diagnosis won't change anything

>for them. They will treat her the same and do the same things.

>They are resistant to using labels, which I appreciate. However, I

>have struggled with relating to other parents who have " typical "

>children who have Down Sydrome. I have also felt powerless as to

>knowing how, and having strength, to help Alena.

>

>Alena is non-verbal and constantly pats her face. All her baby

>dolls have no toes since she has chewed them off. She doesn't play

>with toys as much as pat with toys. Library books are easily

>destroyed around here. She is not very responsive. She regularly

>has giggle-fits that last hours in the middle of the night. She

>has " lucid " moments when she seems to connect with us, but most of

>the time she is in her own world. She is very routine-oriented.

>She doesn't do well with loud noises and some crowd situations. She

>has a texture aversion problem. She is not toilet trained (I found

>some good info to read up on in this site). Do these behaviors

>sound like autism? I don't feel I need to label her necessarily,

>but I want to understand her, know ways to teach her, and help

>others understand.

>

>About five years ago I was on a DS e-mail list. I felt awful

>because I couldn't brag as much as most people. I didn't relate to

>our local support group for similar reasons. For a couple of years

>I pretty much gave up trying to give extra help to Alena. I let

>school deal with her progress and concentrated on just loving and

>taking care of her as I do my other children. But lately, I've been

>wanting to do better, to do extra. I know there are things I can

>do. I am tired of being ignorant.

>

>Then I found this list. I'm already going to check out the chewy

>tubes I read about in the archives. I already feel less alone and

>more understood.

>

>Alena's school had a PECs training session for parents that I

>attended a few years ago. She started PECs but wasn't very

>responsive to it. So, the teachers stopped using it for a while.

>Now they are trying it again. I appreciated the posted info on

>PECs. I think I'll send my husband to the training. I'm embarassed

>that I didn't do much with it.

>

>I related to the posts on guilt. I have been a deadbeat mom. I'm

>sure your posts will help me find motivation to try harder.

>

>Thanks,

>Deb K

>

>

>

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What a beautiful poem. Thanks for sharing.

Diane

> I usually don't share sappy crapt..... but many days this poem has

gotten me

> through...

>

> After awhile you learn the difference

> between holding hands and draining a soul

> And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning

> and company doesn't mean security.

> And you begin to understand that kisses aren't contracts and

presents aren't

> promises.

> And you begin to accept your defeats

> with your head held high and your eyes open

> with the grace of a woman not the grief of a child

> you learn to build your roads

> on today because tomorrow's ground

> is to uncertain for plans,

> and futures have a way a falling in mid-flight

> After awhile you learn even sunshine burns if you get to much

> So plant your own garden and decorate you own soul

> instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.

> And you learn that you really can endure

> That you really are strong

> and you really do have worth

> and you learn and learn and you learn

> with every goodbye you learn

> by: veronica a shoffstall.

>

>

>

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thanks for sharing

rebecca

Learning

> I usually don't share sappy crapt..... but many days this poem has gotten

me

> through...

>

> After awhile you learn the difference

> between holding hands and draining a soul

> And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning

> and company doesn't mean security.

> And you begin to understand that kisses aren't contracts and presents

aren't

> promises.

> And you begin to accept your defeats

> with your head held high and your eyes open

> with the grace of a woman not the grief of a child

> you learn to build your roads

> on today because tomorrow's ground

> is to uncertain for plans,

> and futures have a way a falling in mid-flight

> After awhile you learn even sunshine burns if you get to much

> So plant your own garden and decorate you own soul

> instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.

> And you learn that you really can endure

> That you really are strong

> and you really do have worth

> and you learn and learn and you learn

> with every goodbye you learn

> by: veronica a shoffstall.

>

>

>

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