Asthma

[Guest guest]

>>My daughter's ped thinks that she is suffering from asthma. The ped

prescribed her all sorts of inhalers and other stuff. She can't tolerate any of

them. We tried them seperate with no luck with either of them. We are back to

where we started from. Is there anything natural that can help. She can't

tolerate any antihistamines either.

At my house, asthma was caused by milk intolerance and yeast in the lungs.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

[Guest guest]

You could try to find an environmental doctor to treat you. That's what helped

me with this problem. Try checking www.aaemonline.org

They list eleven doctors in Florida.

>

> I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

>

[Guest guest]

You should be tested by a pulmonologist (lung doctor). They have tests they can

do in their office.

________________________________

From: jodirego <jodirego@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:34:28 PM

Subject: [] Asthma

I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

[Guest guest]

Hi

    I am in Florida.  You may have Reactive Airway Disease which is what I got

first which was also treated like asthma.  Mistake.  Steroids bad idea for me,  

    Most inhalers have steroids for me bad.  I believe also it is bad for mold

exposure. What area are you in??

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: jodirego <jodirego@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:34:28 PM

Subject: [] Asthma

 

I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

[Guest guest]

The short answer is " move " . Florida is probably the worst mold state in the

country, and it is certainly the ONLY state in the country that has high pollen

counts 12 months a year. The long answer also contains the word " move " , because,

if you are out of breath 24/7, then you are most certainly still being exposed

to mold. After your original mold exposure, it no longer requires a 24/7 mold

exposure to make you breathless. As your health improves, it will require

smaller and smaller amounts of mold exposure to make you as sick as you were

during your original massive mold exposure.

I have had asthma for 57 years, and toxic mold sensitivity for about 12 years.

My personal experience has been, that whatever the percentage of breathing

problems were NOT releived TOTALLY, within an hour of using my albuterol " rescue

inhaler " ,then that was the percentage of my breathing problems that were caused

by a " toxic " mold reaction, and NOT an allergic mold reaction.

Don't waste your time trying to explain this concept to your allergist or

pulmonologist, as most of them have had no formal training regarding " toxic " ,

non-allergic, mold sensitivity.

The definitive test for toxic mold sensitivity is simply to move to another

living environment (friend or relative) for 2 weeks. If your breathing improves

dramatically, then it was your living environment that was full of the mold that

was causing your breathing problems. For the " test " to be effective, you must

not take any clothing from your present environment, to your " 2 week test "

environment. Go to a clothing store. Buy enough new clothing for your 2 week

test, and leave your old clothes in a trash container, in the store. Even a 5

minute return to your current environment, will invalidate the effectiveness of

the test. Our body instantly goes into a " reactive " " non-breathing " mode, with

even a 5 minute re-exposure to mold, and it will do so, for the rest of your

life, and the rest of my life.

An allergic reaction to ANYTHING, is dependent of the quantity of the exposure,

and the time period of the exposure. A toxic mold reaction is NOT dependent on

either of these two factors. Your doctors don't know this, and they will

consider you to be quite insane, when you tell them that a " toxic " mold reation

is NOT " dose-dependent. My father did not beleive that one hour a day, in his

moldy car, could possibly harm him. He endure this exposure for two years. HE

DIED LAST OCTOBER!

Joe

............................................

>

> I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

>

[Guest guest]

Joe,

where did you move to?  What state? You can answer back mail if you would

like.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: josephsalowitz <josephsalowitz@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:49:20 PM

Subject: [] Re: Asthma

 

The short answer is " move " . Florida is probably the worst mold state in the

country, and it is certainly the ONLY state in the country that has high pollen

counts 12 months a year. The long answer also contains the word " move " , because,

if you are out of breath 24/7, then you are most certainly still being exposed

to mold. After your original mold exposure, it no longer requires a 24/7 mold

exposure to make you breathless. As your health improves, it will require

smaller and smaller amounts of mold exposure to make you as sick as you were

during your original massive mold exposure.

I have had asthma for 57 years, and toxic mold sensitivity for about 12 years.

My personal experience has been, that whatever the percentage of breathing

problems were NOT releived TOTALLY, within an hour of using my albuterol " rescue

inhaler " ,then that was the percentage of my breathing problems that were caused

by a " toxic " mold reaction, and NOT an allergic mold reaction.

Don't waste your time trying to explain this concept to your allergist or

pulmonologist, as most of them have had no formal training regarding " toxic " ,

non-allergic, mold sensitivity.

The definitive test for toxic mold sensitivity is simply to move to another

living environment (friend or relative) for 2 weeks. If your breathing improves

dramatically, then it was your living environment that was full of the mold that

was causing your breathing problems. For the " test " to be effective, you must

not take any clothing from your present environment, to your " 2 week test "

environment. Go to a clothing store. Buy enough new clothing for your 2 week

test, and leave your old clothes in a trash container, in the store. Even a 5

minute return to your current environment, will invalidate the effectiveness of

the test. Our body instantly goes into a " reactive " " non-breathing " mode, with

even a 5 minute re-exposure to mold, and it will do so, for the rest of your

life, and the rest of my life.

An allergic reaction to ANYTHING, is dependent of the quantity of the exposure,

and the time period of the exposure. A toxic mold reaction is NOT dependent on

either of these two factors. Your doctors don't know this, and they will

consider you to be quite insane, when you tell them that a " toxic " mold reation

is NOT " dose-dependent. My father did not beleive that one hour a day, in his

moldy car, could possibly harm him. He endure this exposure for two years. HE

DIED LAST OCTOBER!

Joe

............. ......... ......... ......... ....

>

> I am short of breath 24/7. Sometimes I almost stop breathing and my doctor is

treating me like I have asthma. I know this false and some of the drugs he is

giving me are killing me. What tests should he run? What medications should I

not take. I was exposed to mold before I got sick. I am in Florida what should I

do?

>

[Guest guest]

You've explained it well, Joe. Very sorry about your Dad.

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

---

j> The short answer is " move " . Florida is probably the worst mold state in the

country, and it is certainly the ONLY state in the country that has high pollen

counts 12 months a year.

[Guest guest]

Mayleen,

May I ask how you were diagnosed with that and what kind of treatment have you

done that has helped? I've been trying not to use steroid inhalers myself, but

do have lung problems.

Thanks,

Sam

Hi    I am in Florida.  You may have Reactive Airway Disease which is what I got

first which was also treated like asthma.  Mistake.  Steroids bad idea for me,  

[Guest guest]

i live in central florida, i do not have the reactive airway disease

From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Asthma

Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 3:38 PM

Joe,

where did you move to?  What state? You can answer back mail if you would

like.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Sorry the message (question ) was for Joe. 

 I live in florida.  I have 2 lung diseases from mold.  If you look at pollem

allergy counts central florida is even worse around Orlando. mold map covers all

of eastern states.  I have severe problems breathing in florida.

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: terry king <jodirego@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:59:46 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Asthma

 

i live in central florida, i do not have the reactive airway disease

From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Asthma

Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 3:38 PM

Joe,

where did you move to?  What state? You can answer back mail if you would

like.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Hi Sam,

    I was diagnosed with RADS by EI Dr.  All I have is an inhaler and 02.  I

have unfortunately had a hard time here in this state and has delayed everything

for us.  I have had no treatment.  Have not been able to see my EI since 2006.

I tested positive for HP, then a few months later in 2 weeks I had lung

disease.  Five months later I had 2nd lung disease.  I first had RADS.

I want out of here.  I just saw a pulmo who took after 5 others turned me down.

However  he says I need major hospital. local hospital will not cut it.   This

just yesterday.

 He suggests Shands, Mayo, UM School of Medicine (already tried one

there, she turned me down in evil way)

God Bless !!

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Sam <yaddayadda53@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:55:04 PM

Subject: Re: [] Asthma

 

Mayleen,

May I ask how you were diagnosed with that and what kind of treatment have you

done that has helped? I've been trying not to use steroid inhalers myself, but

do have lung problems.

Thanks,

Sam

[Guest guest]

Actually altitude is a problem for people with lung disease.  You can find

yourself unable to breathe depending on altitude, even flying can be problem.

Found this :

 

 National Jewish Health Partners with  Healthier Environment Living ProgramTM to

Market and Service Healthier VerificationsTM Indoor Allergens & Mold Test Kit

http://www.nationaljewish.org/about/mediacenter/pressreleases/2009/healthier-env\

ironment-living.aspx

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

_______________________________

From: <brianc8452@...>

dragonflymcs@...;

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:11:36 AM

Subject: Fw: [] Asthma

 

You should check with National Jewish Medical Center in Denver, Colorado. They

are the #1 facility for lung diseases....

[Guest guest]

Sam & Mayleen,

 

I was lucky. My original massive mold exposure was at work, so after seeing the

mold in  the unoccupied parts of the building [the landlord had painted over the

mold in my office], I just quit my job. My exposure was for less than 6 weeks,

by which time I was on death's doorstep, as the mold had been growing in the

abandoned building, in a shipyard, FOR 50 YEARS, before an S.O.B landlord had

decided to rent it out as office space, and, to save money, to paint over the

mold, or put up new wallboard, in one office at a time, as each office was

rented out. And my employer had rented the first office. So, thank God, I wasn't

faced with the gut-wrenching decision to move out of my home, as most members of

this board were.

 

I live in Brooklyn, N.Y. , in a 16 floor co-op building, where many apartments

have mold. After 12 years of learning about the hiding places of mold, I manage

to stay one step ahead of mold, and keep my apartment mold-free. All of my

attempts to educate other tennants in my building, is met by anger from them, as

they think that I am saying that they don't keep a clean house. When I point to

the mold, they say things like: " It's just dirt-not mold " , or " My children, who

have asthma, visit me, and they don't get sick. " And, to be honest about it,

they do not appear to show typical mold-related symptoms. But, as they are

mostly elderly [i'm 66] who is to say if many of their age-related illnesses may

be caused by mold , or made worse by mold.

 

My life is being on constant vigilance for mold. But, the reality is, that like

all of us, I first have to start getting sick and sicker, before I start

backtracking by daily life, one day at a time, until I discover what recent

addition to my life has introduced me to a new source of mold or chemical

exposure. Then, I eliminate the recent additions, until my health gets better.

 

All of this takes place against the constant backdrop of my having had asthma

since the age of nine, for which I use my albuterol inhaler and my Asmanex

[cortisone derivative] inhaler, daily.

 

Like everyone on this board, I get a major mold or chemical " hit " , almost every

year, and numerous minor " hits " every year. The GOOD news is, that as I get to

know the " enemy " better, I can recognize him, and eliminate him from my life, in

a matter of days, instead of the months that it used to take me. My last " hit "

was 3 weeks ago, when I stupidly allowed something from a moldy house, to be

stored in my house for a week. I am still having trouble regaining my " normal "

state of asthma illness, and getting rid of my toxic mold reaction.

 

Since I had asthma for most of my life BEFORE getting my toxic mold reactions, I

am in the unique position of having a " frame of reference " on breathing

difficulties, that most formerly-healthy people do not have. So, when my

breathing gets worse, it only takes me a few days before I can assign the cause

to asthma or toxic mold/chemical reaction, and begin my " search-and-destroy "

mission against the cause of my suffering. 

 

If you are experiencing breathing difficulties, for the first time in your life,

you have no frame of reference, and you are at the mercy of a medical

profession, which, being " blind in one eye " , can only see " asthma " with their

one remaining eye.

 

Sam, you are lucky to be living on the eastern shore of land, as one of the

few doctor's who specializes in our medical condition, is Dr. Shoemaker, in

Pokamoke (?) land. He is not blind in one eye, from what I hear.

 

I want to thank both of you for your blessings, and let you know that you are

both in my prayers. I want to end this posting with the warning that I always

give to people who might still be living in a moldy home. Since mold exposure

can cause irreversible damage to many body organs, after an unknown length of

time, if you are still in a moldy home, please RUN-RUN-RUN-RUN-RUN-RUN, before

it's too late.

 

Joe

[Guest guest]

Dear Members: here we go again. Everyone is assuming that the health problems

results from molds. There several different biocontaminants inside of water

damaged structures. These are as follows:

1. Several Genera and species of molds and their by-products: mycotoxins,

glucans, galactomannans, allergens, antigenic proteins, VOCs to mention a few.

2. Bacteria: gram negative and gram positive. The gram negative produce

endotoxins and are potential pathogens. The gram positive consists of bacilli,

cocci, and actinomycetes. These can and do produce toxins are are potential

pathogens. The also release VOCs.

3. Protozoa: amoeba, flagellates and ciliates

4. Particles: Large (greater that 2 micons) and small (less than 2 micorns.

The small fraction is up to 500 times greater in concentration that the large

particles.

What is causing your RADS? Most likely all or anyone of the components above,

parcticuarly Mycobacterium.

Steroids: use of corticosteroids for two weeks are more has been shown to be a

risk factor for Aspergillosis.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

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Trauma Specialist

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[Guest guest]

Although I don't suffer with asthma I can totally relate to both these

paragraphs that you wrote. My life since realizing what HIT me is constant

vigilance for mold or chemicals. If I end up in a new place that I react to

then I don't return EVER! I can now recognize the symptoms immediately and

get myself better. Usually take a few days back on CSM 4X a day for a week.I

mostly end up in bed with a h horrible headache that lasts for 2 to 3

days.

And to Sam, if you live in land then Dr. Shoemaker is the place to

start. Pocomoke is just south of Salisbury, MD. go to _www.biotoxin.info_

(http://www.biotoxin.info) for more info.

My life is being on constant vigilance for mold. But, the reality is,

that like all of us, I first have to start getting sick and sicker, before I

start backtracking by daily life, one day at a time, until I discover what

recent addition to my life has introduced me to a new source of mold or

chemical exposure. Then, I eliminate the recent additions, until my health gets

better.

Like everyone on this board, I get a major mold or chemical " hit " , almost

every year, and numerous minor " hits " every year. The GOOD news is, that as

I get to know the " enemy " better, I can recognize him, and eliminate him

from my life, in a matter of days, instead of the months that it used to take

me.

Sam, you are lucky to be living on the eastern shore of land, as one of

the few doctor's who specializes in our medical condition, is Dr.

Shoemaker, in Pokamoke (?) land. He is not blind in one eye, from what I

hear.

[Guest guest]

Dr. Thrasher,

Can you please direct us to what tests are done to uncover what the offending

biocontaminants might be? Does the list you provided go beyond say the list of

tests as recommended by Dr. Shoemaker's protocols?

With the lack of awareness for biocantaminants and illness among most doctors,

it would be helpful if we had a list of tests we might get done ourselves or at

least with a doctor that is willing to help.

Thanks,

Sam

 There several different biocontaminants inside of water damaged structures.

These are as follows:

1. Several Genera and species of molds and their by-products: mycotoxins,

glucans, galactomannans, allergens, antigenic proteins, VOCs to mention a few.

2. ...

[Guest guest]

With me, I have reconized at least w different effects to my lings, 1 is what I

consider reactive airway disease, caughing, than airways close up, cant breath,

lack of oxygen to brain, isially a chemical reaction with usually involves a

nose to brain effect too depending on what or how strong it is. than I also get

what fells like a infection in the lungs sometimes just by being outside a bit

and it hurts to breath, fell it in my back side,and sometimes its ends up going

up the back of my neck and causes severe migranes that are quite scary. I dont

fell this is from chemical exposures but maybe from breathing mold thats in the

air in missouri pretty bad when condictions are right. I fell that maybe this

happens quite easily because I may have aspergilliosis or just because of the

damage my lungs have had. ? maybe allergic lung disease on the second one.

but these are two tottolly different effects

with these. the first one I usually recover from shortly after getting away from

the chemical/toxin, the secon one can stay with me for days. but there are some

strong smells,fermented foods,fermented smells, that can make me quite ill very

quick and have this migrane and sometimes if its a food, I thow it up and fell

better.

it's all so confuseing, but I know my brain barriors are all broke down and

everything just goes to my head with different effects depending on the route.

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members: here we go again. Everyone is assuming that the health

problems results from molds. There several different biocontaminants inside of

water damaged structures. These are as follows:

>

[Guest guest]

according to this I have (ABPA)

http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec05/ch048/ch048b.html

but I had this testing as part of my MCS testing, now either aspergillus is the

factor in many chemicals that cause reactive airways or both chemical/toxins and

aspergilliosis cause the same

caughing and closeing of airways and I dont think thats correct.

I have all the signs if aspergilliosis, was exposed to large amouts of

asoergillus, still sometimes caugh up those tiny white balls from my lungs that

look like aspergillus spores, clogging of tear ducts and cataracts as discribed

ar aspergillus uk.org and the cataracts in gray-green in color as seen in a eye

from ground rounds article of aspergillus grown from a gray-green cataracts

removed from a patient.

I was forty when my exposure accured and my cataracts started, within 2 years

the cataracts in my left eye was full the right eye is much slower at

progressing. I had more damage to the left side of my brain. including a very

damaged olfactory tract and left spinal cord at the base of my neck/brain. my

brain barriers are broke down, everything goes directly to my head, it sucks,

yes it does

now I am so burnt out on doctors not listening to me I'm haveing a hard time

even dealing with any without just wanting to scream at them to listen to me for

5 freaking minutes. yes, I'm slow too so dont rush me, I have a brain injury and

I cant just roll crap of my tounge like I used to, but I'm not freaking stupied

so dont treat me that way, my god I've had it with doctors who's brains are so

swelled they get pissed if you dare disagree or try to tell them anything.

WTF, they demand respect and I'd like some respect. ok done spouting off.

anyway, I understand the cataract thing, the simple sergery,ect. but what no one

hears is this. there are days the white fog in my eyes is worse than on other

days, clearer the next day, some days so thick I cant see right in front of my

face. now forget the left eye because the cataracts is full, I'm talking my

right eye and this has been going on a long time, floaters+ cataracts??

lets see, they give anti-bacyerial eye drops before cataract sergery to prevent

bacterial infections that cause a white fogginess in the fluid in front of the

lens, gee, from what I've read, fungal infections can do the same. now, is it

possable that I have

a cloudiness in the fluid in front of my lens from a fungal infection from

somewhere in my body or brain? is it possable that I have that plus cataracts,

is it freaking possable to get a doctor that might just consider that antifungal

eye drops before cataracts sergury kist might be something I should have? grrrr,

so my left eye is bad and

I either akso have clacoma (inflamariry eye disease)(optic neuritis)

and/or the problems going on in my sinuses are causeing pressure around my eyes

when they are inflamed. or both, cause when something goes to my brain and

causes those migraines, hot spots and rawness to the scalp, I also get much

pressure to my eyes, and sometimes I have a real bad pain in my keft side of my

head by itself around the base of the head and neck and it sends shooting pains

into the back of my left eyeball. sorry folks, this is just some things I'd like

to tell to a doctor that actually listens to his patients and has more than 4

minutes to do it because he understands that brain injured people might function

a little slower but that doesn't mean they are stupied. and because my email

sender is crapping out on me I might need to send this to some one. so just take

it for what it is, nothing against anyone in the sbs group, just a tired, possed

lady who wants her life back or at least someone to listen to her gripeing

sometimes. lov ya all

>

> With me, I have reconized at least w different effects to my lings, 1 is what

I consider reactive airway disease, caughing, than airways close up, cant

breath, lack of oxygen to brain, isially a chemical reaction with usually

involves a nose to brain effect too depending on what or how strong it is. than

I also get what fells like a infection in the lungs sometimes just by being

outside a bit and it hurts to breath, fell it in my back side,and sometimes its

ends up going up the back of my neck and causes severe migranes that are quite

scary. I dont fell this is from chemical exposures but maybe from breathing mold

thats in the air in missouri pretty bad when condictions are right. I fell that

maybe this happens quite easily because I may have aspergilliosis or just

because of the damage my lungs have had. ? maybe allergic lung disease on the

second one.

> but these are two tottolly different effects

> with these. the first one I usually recover from shortly after getting away

from the chemical/toxin, the secon one can stay with me for days. but there are

some strong smells,fermented foods,fermented smells, that can make me quite ill

very quick and have this migrane and sometimes if its a food, I thow it up and

fell better.

> it's all so confuseing, but I know my brain barriors are all broke down and

everything just goes to my head with different effects depending on the route.

>

> --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members: here we go again. Everyone is assuming that the health

problems results from molds. There several different biocontaminants inside of

water damaged structures. These are as follows:

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Asthma

Hi all. Let us through our 2 cents in on the asthma condition. Nina was

chronically asthmatic for 25 years. She’s had several near death attacks

that landed her in the emergency room. (we have over $30,000 in emergency

hospital stays.) She is NOW asthma free and hasn’t even used an inhaler

in over 10 years. (in no particular order)

Asthma is tricky, because the causes can by MANY. It can be one, or

several, factors combined. (parasites, bacteria, food allergies, airborne

allergies, etc… all which contribute to chronic inflammation)

Below are some of the notes we’ve gathered over the years, regarding

asthma.

Cleansing

Dr of course talks a lot about parasites (and the bacteria they can

carry). With asthma, she talks about round worm, toxocara, and ascaris

eggs in the lungs. We are firm believers that ANY healing protocol START

with the parasite cleanses. Do the 18 day cleanse, then STAY on the

maintenance for a few months at least. see what happens. (make sure you

cleanse

your pets and other family members!)

Zapping.

Zapping is the great immune system supporter. Regardless of the actual

cause, zapping helps the immune system stay stong(er).

Some of our people have had great success with a “Rife Machine†also.

(Interesting to note that many of the “asthma settings†on these devices

target the above mentioned parasites.)

http://www.frequencyrising.com/frequency-generator.html

Allergins

This may seem obvious, but many never have their homes tested for airborne

allergins. MOLD, in particular. (When we moved away from our first

home, Nina’s daily asthma symptoms improved dramatically.) Her doctor felt is

was from a chemical used in fabric softeners. ( I can’t remember the name)

Our laundry was in the basement, next to the heater vents… so all the dust

and chemicals from the basement was being pushed through the vents to the

rest of the house.)

Also consider ragweed, pollen, and any other local plant.

Identify and eliminate FOOD allergens like fish, shellfish, eggs, nuts,

wheat and chocolate.

Get a comprehensive allergy test!

Dietary Recommendations

Eliminate food additives, dyes and preservatives!

Eliminate mucus-forming foods like dairy, refined (white flour) and sugar.

Nutrient Recommendations

Magnesium relaxes smooth muscles, encourages airway dilation. Good

sources of magnesium are (starting with best) beet greens, spinach, parsley,

dandelion greens, blackberries, broccoli, cauliflower, beets, carrots and

celery.

Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) Helps with sensitivities to food additives called

sulfites. Best sources of B12 are soy, tofu, poultry, fish and betaines

HCL.

Vitamin C causes immediate decrease in airway constriction. Kale,

parsley, broccoli, brussel sprouts, watercress, cauliflower, cabbage,

strawberries, papaya, spinach, citrus fruits, turnips mangoes, asparagus and

cantelope.

Vitamin A helps protect the lining of the lungs while antioxidant

nutrients and essential fats are anti-inflammatory Other recommended

supplements

are multivitamins and minerals, evening primrose or borage oil.

Juicing vegetables is recommended (especially for weak immune systems)

because the body can more easily absorb the nutrients in juice. Whole foods

require more work to digest, metabolize and eliminate.

Bee pollen has also proven helpful for some asthmatics affected by

airborne allergens. Do not give Bee pollen to children under the age of two.

Onions, garlic and radishes help eliminate mucus in upper respiratory

tract.

Vitamin E can relax smooth muscles by inhibiting the effects of histamine

and by modifying formation of inflammation-controlling substances called

prostaglandins. Best sources of Vit. E are spinach, watercress, asparagus,

carrots and tomatoes.

Parsley is number one juice recommended for allergies. One half to one

cup a day is recommended. Too much parsley can be toxic and is not

recommended for pregnant women. A good habit for asthmatics is to combine in

a

shaker parsley, cayenne and garlic and shake it on appropriate foods. (this

recipe helped Nina IMMEDIATELY, when she started doing it. She sprinkled

it on everything)

Herbal recommendations

Mullein tea soothes the mucous membranes and is especially good for night

attacks. It can be combined with marshmallow and slippery elm tea for an

additional mucus-secreting effect.

Passionflower tea is good for asthma due to tension or nervous conditions.

Licorice root, Indian tobacco, thyme, capsaicin (from cayenne pepper),

skunk cabbage, gumweed, horse chestnut, wild cherry bark, coltsfoot, plantain,

jujube plum green tea, and lobelia are also valuable aids for those

suffering from asthma.

Oxygen Products

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide given intravenously or in liquid form orally

provides further oxygenation of the cells. Hydrogen peroxide baths are also

excellent for oxygenating the cells.

Ozonated water and olive oil also oxygenates as it heals. Ozone is the

great scavenger. Use it to “clean up†your entire body.

Oils

Four to six drops of the following essential oils can be added to a bath

or humidifier: elecampane, frankincense, lavender, mint and sage.

A word about Infection

Yet another possible cause was uncovered by research by_ Dr. Hahn_

(http://www.dean.org/index.php/info/asthma) in medical journals about the

bacteria _Chlamydia pneumoniae_ (http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp) (and

mycoplasma) and the interesting link it has to being a possible cause of

asthma.

These studies indicate this research may be of benefit to 50% or more of

adults and children diagnosed with asthma. See more here about that:

_http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp_ (http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp)

A word about inflammation and Gluatthione

Regardless of the actual cause, the end result is chronic inflammation.

The following is a old post from this forum by Duncan Crow (some of you

may remember him… it’s a shame he was kicked off the forum!)

Asthma is an inflammatory disorder that in most cases can be controlled by

diet. Read The Inflammation Nation by Chilton for the world's first

anti-inflammatory diet plans that are based on actual research (clinical

studies). http://www.abe.com has cheap copies.

Asthma is marked by depleted glutathione in the lung. Glutathione is an

antiinflammatory and immunomodulating antioxidant produced by every cell. The

precursors are most plentiful in cold-processed whey. References (note the

asthma link):

_http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html_

(http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html)

Only raw foods contain glutathione-producing components.

I've got rid of peoples' COPD, a close relative to asthma, with

cold-processed whey and the antioxidant vitamins A, C, E, and selenium, and a

b-50

complex with folate. It only took a few days, and the people did not

otherwise change their diets.

Hope this helps.

chad

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Thanks, Chad! I was struck by this line:

Parsley is number one juice recommended for allergies. One half to one

cup a day is recommended.

How much parsley does it take to produce a cup of parsley juice?

Blessings!

Arthur

Re: Asthma

Asthma

Hi all. Let us through our 2 cents in on the asthma condition. Nina was

chronically asthmatic for 25 years. She’s had several near death attacks

that landed her in the emergency room. (we have over $30,000 in emergency

hospital stays.) She is NOW asthma free and hasn’t even used an inhaler

in over 10 years. (in no particular order)

Asthma is tricky, because the causes can by MANY. It can be one, or

several, factors combined. (parasites, bacteria, food allergies, airborne

allergies, etc… all which contribute to chronic inflammation)

Below are some of the notes we’ve gathered over the years, regarding

asthma.

Cleansing

Dr of course talks a lot about parasites (and the bacteria they can

carry). With asthma, she talks about round worm, toxocara, and ascaris

eggs in the lungs. We are firm believers that ANY healing protocol START

with the parasite cleanses. Do the 18 day cleanse, then STAY on the

maintenance for a few months at least. see what happens. (make sure you

cleanse

your pets and other family members!)

Zapping.

Zapping is the great immune system supporter. Regardless of the actual

cause, zapping helps the immune system stay stong(er).

Some of our people have had great success with a “Rife Machine†also.

(Interesting to note that many of the “asthma settings†on these devices

target the above mentioned parasites.)

http://www.frequencyrising.com/frequency-generator.html

Allergins

This may seem obvious, but many never have their homes tested for airborne

allergins. MOLD, in particular. (When we moved away from our first

home, Nina’s daily asthma symptoms improved dramatically.) Her doctor felt

is

was from a chemical used in fabric softeners. ( I can’t remember the name)

Our laundry was in the basement, next to the heater vents… so all the dust

and chemicals from the basement was being pushed through the vents to the

rest of the house.)

Also consider ragweed, pollen, and any other local plant.

Identify and eliminate FOOD allergens like fish, shellfish, eggs, nuts,

wheat and chocolate.

Get a comprehensive allergy test!

Dietary Recommendations

Eliminate food additives, dyes and preservatives!

Eliminate mucus-forming foods like dairy, refined (white flour) and sugar.

Nutrient Recommendations

Magnesium relaxes smooth muscles, encourages airway dilation. Good

sources of magnesium are (starting with best) beet greens, spinach, parsley,

dandelion greens, blackberries, broccoli, cauliflower, beets, carrots and

celery.

Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) Helps with sensitivities to food additives called

sulfites. Best sources of B12 are soy, tofu, poultry, fish and betaines

HCL.

Vitamin C causes immediate decrease in airway constriction. Kale,

parsley, broccoli, brussel sprouts, watercress, cauliflower, cabbage,

strawberries, papaya, spinach, citrus fruits, turnips mangoes, asparagus and

cantelope.

Vitamin A helps protect the lining of the lungs while antioxidant

nutrients and essential fats are anti-inflammatory Other recommended

supplements

are multivitamins and minerals, evening primrose or borage oil.

Juicing vegetables is recommended (especially for weak immune systems)

because the body can more easily absorb the nutrients in juice. Whole foods

require more work to digest, metabolize and eliminate.

Bee pollen has also proven helpful for some asthmatics affected by

airborne allergens. Do not give Bee pollen to children under the age of two.

Onions, garlic and radishes help eliminate mucus in upper respiratory

tract.

Vitamin E can relax smooth muscles by inhibiting the effects of histamine

and by modifying formation of inflammation-controlling substances called

prostaglandins. Best sources of Vit. E are spinach, watercress, asparagus,

carrots and tomatoes.

Parsley is number one juice recommended for allergies. One half to one

cup a day is recommended. Too much parsley can be toxic and is not

recommended for pregnant women. A good habit for asthmatics is to combine in a

shaker parsley, cayenne and garlic and shake it on appropriate foods. (this

recipe helped Nina IMMEDIATELY, when she started doing it. She sprinkled

it on everything)

Herbal recommendations

Mullein tea soothes the mucous membranes and is especially good for night

attacks. It can be combined with marshmallow and slippery elm tea for an

additional mucus-secreting effect.

Passionflower tea is good for asthma due to tension or nervous conditions.

Licorice root, Indian tobacco, thyme, capsaicin (from cayenne pepper),

skunk cabbage, gumweed, horse chestnut, wild cherry bark, coltsfoot, plantain,

jujube plum green tea, and lobelia are also valuable aids for those

suffering from asthma.

Oxygen Products

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide given intravenously or in liquid form orally

provides further oxygenation of the cells. Hydrogen peroxide baths are also

excellent for oxygenating the cells.

Ozonated water and olive oil also oxygenates as it heals. Ozone is the

great scavenger. Use it to “clean up†your entire body.

Oils

Four to six drops of the following essential oils can be added to a bath

or humidifier: elecampane, frankincense, lavender, mint and sage.

A word about Infection

Yet another possible cause was uncovered by research by_ Dr. Hahn_

(http://www.dean.org/index.php/info/asthma) in medical journals about the

bacteria _Chlamydia pneumoniae_ (http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp) (and

mycoplasma) and the interesting link it has to being a possible cause of

asthma.

These studies indicate this research may be of benefit to 50% or more of

adults and children diagnosed with asthma. See more here about that:

_http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp_ (http://www.asthmastory.com/cp.asp)

A word about inflammation and Gluatthione

Regardless of the actual cause, the end result is chronic inflammation.

The following is a old post from this forum by Duncan Crow (some of you

may remember him… it’s a shame he was kicked off the forum!)

Asthma is an inflammatory disorder that in most cases can be controlled by

diet. Read The Inflammation Nation by Chilton for the world's first

anti-inflammatory diet plans that are based on actual research (clinical

studies). http://www.abe.com has cheap copies.

Asthma is marked by depleted glutathione in the lung. Glutathione is an

antiinflammatory and immunomodulating antioxidant produced by every cell. The

precursors are most plentiful in cold-processed whey. References (note the

asthma link):

_http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html_

(http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html)

Only raw foods contain glutathione-producing components.

I've got rid of peoples' COPD, a close relative to asthma, with

cold-processed whey and the antioxidant vitamins A, C, E, and selenium, and a

b-50

complex with folate. It only took a few days, and the people did not

otherwise change their diets.

Hope this helps.

chad