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bordering on irresponsible"BORDERING on!?This the sort of thing we associate with joke "doomsday cults" where people sell all their things and wait on a hillside with their leader for the world to end... but it's got a grip on a major segment of the population in this country! I have to agree with all expressions in this thread that the really scary thing about this is how much power it has in national politics. Our government has so much power in the world that they could very well bring about the sort of catastrophe this 'myth' teaches them to wish for. Yet the remaining opposition dares not even point out how looney it is for fear of being accused of disrespecting religion

Well put! n this is exactly wh my new book THE HEAVENS DECLARE: Astrological Ages and the Evolution of Consciousness, addresses! As I am 83, I have a vivid memory of how Hitler charmed even the sensible Germans into his Aryan myth w/devastating consequences. U are so right ab the political connection! Both leaders of the US n Iran seem dangerously inflated [ego identified w/Self] by Christian n Muslim convictions. I do not doubt the sincerity of their convictions! but they seem past psychol insight or objectivity. This cld result in calamity if reason doesn't prevail.

Saddam identfied w/Nebuchadnezzar n Babylonian splendor; his seems to have been personal inflation but we've moved up a notch.

In ancient times, n I stress that, the astrological fate of the country depended on the cht of its ruler. Heaven forfend! Our country seems beset w/wind, fires, n floods - 3 of the 4 elements! but my trust is in the people who, as Lincoln said, cannot ALL be fooled ALL of the time.

It's a terrible situat wh all 3 branches of the gov in one pol party - no checks/balances! Watch for enantiodromia.

late

love

ao

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Greg...please tell us more about this when you return and have a good trip.

Carol

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I hope to rejoin the discussion when I return. My Italian exchange student

living with us now, saw the DC twice today. He thought it was really

great....which is something. I found out only this week, during discussions

about DC, that he had been a practicing teen member of the Opus Dei cult in

Palermo for several years. His " padrino " (translated god father) is a

practicing member of some considerable local reputation. He has much to say

about both their social/political power and about the brain-washing

techniques. In his case, it has completely turned him off about religion,

especially Christianity. Too bad. But that story is for another day.

[Guest guest]

Carol wrote:

>Greg...please tell us more about this when you return and have a good trip.

Here are some pictures and comments from others who have taken the journey

before me. Here are several pages from the sponsoring group's website where you

can see some of the sights we will visit and read the comments of earlier

participants.

http://www.interfaithdialog.org/events/trip2004/trip2004-1.php

You may also be interested to read the goals, mission and vision of IID, the

group that is sponsoring the trip:

http://www.interfaithdialog.org/about.php

I look forward to visiting with you about the experience upon my return. This

seems to be a " once in a lifetime " gift, quite unexpected, and I am grateful to

have been offered the opportunity to visit this interesting and historic part of

our world. I'm hopeful that it will open my eyes to a re-viewing/re-visioning

of the " old " myths that seem to have been eroded over the centuries. What we

need now, it seems to me, is a unification myth with which many can resonate at

a deeply spiritual level. Who knows, PEACE may eventually break out. What a

thought!

Greg

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