Guest guest Posted February 3, 2001 Report Share Posted February 3, 2001 Hi Pierre. thank you so much once again for the info. They did not keep me in the hospital overnight. the nephrologist said that since i'm young and with no other medical conditions only 6 hours in the hospital should be sufficient. the procedure was yesterday at 11:00 am, about 29 hours ago. i just urinated and again the blood is still there. however i'm not sure if any more than last time but def visible still. I think i'll contact the md in a few hours if still there. i'll keep drinking fluids to flush it out. thanks again. vik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2001 Report Share Posted February 3, 2001 Did they not keep you in the hospital overnight? Some patients have enough blood for red urine for a day or so, but anything longer and I would be phoning the nephrologist or hospital where they performed it. It should really be getting lighter by now, not heavier. Did they discharge you from the hospital with visible blood in your urine? If so, after more than 24 hours, I would be calling either the nephrologist or the hospital where it was performed, just to be on the safe side. Pierre kidney biopsy > Hi guys. I just did a kidney biopsy yesterday. > My urine yesterday was fine with no visible blood. However, > today the urine def has visible blood. I've urinated about 5 times > today and each one seems to get redder. Any one know how long I should > expect this? The nephrologist had said it would be normal but I forgot > to ask how long is normal. thank you any advise. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2001 Report Share Posted February 3, 2001 I had to have blood clotting medicine before I could leave the hospital. I was also on my back for 24 hours. This is serious business. Call you doctor. -- In iga-nephropathy@y..., " Pierre L " <pierre.lachaine@s...> wrote: > Did they not keep you in the hospital overnight? Some patients have enough > blood for red urine for a day or so, but anything longer and I would be > phoning the nephrologist or hospital where they performed it. It should > really be getting lighter by now, not heavier. Did they discharge you from > the hospital with visible blood in your urine? If so, after more than 24 > hours, I would be calling either the nephrologist or the hospital where it > was performed, just to be on the safe side. > Pierre > > kidney biopsy > > > > Hi guys. I just did a kidney biopsy yesterday. > > My urine yesterday was fine with no visible blood. However, > > today the urine def has visible blood. I've urinated about 5 times > > today and each one seems to get redder. Any one know how long I should > > expect this? The nephrologist had said it would be normal but I forgot > > to ask how long is normal. thank you any advise. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 I would definitely be contacting your MD as a matter of urgency, and insist that you are seen by the Nephrologist. I was hospitalised for 24 hours, with strict instructions not to get out of bed unless the nurse was with me. It may not seem like a big deal having a biopsy, but this is a major organ being tampered with here, and side effects thereafter simply cannot be ignored if it goes on for to long. Keep calm and see someone ok. Good luck Best wishes kidney biopsy Hi guys. I just did a kidney biopsy yesterday. My urine yesterday was fine with no visible blood. However, today the urine def has visible blood. I've urinated about 5 times today and each one seems to get redder. Any one know how long I should expect this? The nephrologist had said it would be normal but I forgot to ask how long is normal. thank you any advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 This is the first time I've ever heard of being sent home 6 hours after a kidney biopsy. Anybody else have it done that way? When I had my biopsy 8 years ago, I was admitted automatically to a hospital room, in bed for 24 hours. As far as I know, they have to monitor the patient's blood pressure and hematocrit to make sure there is no internal bleeding (which is a separate issue than any blood in the urine). I guess they must be getting pretty confidant with this procedure. I don't see how age would enter into it, because bleeding has nothing to do with age. Let us know how it goes Vik, and good luck. Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Thank you guys again. I did contact the nephrologist who said not to worry unless I see large clots in the urine and feel dizzy. it has been a nerve wracking couple of days but there is no longer visible blood in the my urine. thanks again. vik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 was in the hospital for 24 hours after his biopsy and couldn't get out of bed except to use the rest room. > >Reply-To: iga-nephropathy >To: <iga-nephropathy > >Subject: Re: kidney biopsy >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:10:01 -0500 > >This is the first time I've ever heard of being sent home 6 hours after a >kidney biopsy. Anybody else have it done that way? > >When I had my biopsy 8 years ago, I was admitted automatically to a >hospital >room, in bed for 24 hours. As far as I know, they have to monitor the >patient's blood pressure and hematocrit to make sure there is no internal >bleeding (which is a separate issue than any blood in the urine). I guess >they must be getting pretty confidant with this procedure. I don't see how >age would enter into it, because bleeding has nothing to do with age. > >Let us know how it goes Vik, and good luck. > >Pierre > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Dear Vik Glad to hear news. Keep an eye on yourself ok, and try not to overdue things for at least a month, that should see you in good stead. Glad you got hold of your Neph, I know how difficult it is to tie these guys down at times. You know where we are if you have concerns. Best wishes -----Original Message----- From: viknikinaz@... Sent: 04 February 2001 21:24 To: iga-nephropathy Subject: Re: kidney biopsy Thank you guys again. I did contact the nephrologist who said not to worry unless I see large clots in the urine and feel dizzy. it has been a nerve wracking couple of days but there is no longer visible blood in the my urine. thanks again. vik To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: iga-nephropathy-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 I too was only hospitalized for 6 hours. I had a laproscopic procedure done, not a needle biopsy. However, I did NOT have blood in my urine except for once about 3 days after the procedure. When I contacted my MD he said that was normal as long as it didn't last longer than about a day--which it didn't. Supposedly the procedure that I had done is still relatively new. It is not as invasive as an open biopsy but more definitive than a needle biopsy. A urologist performed my surgery. The best thing was that I didn't have to stay on my back except for the 6 hours. Re: kidney biopsy >This is the first time I've ever heard of being sent home 6 hours after a >kidney biopsy. Anybody else have it done that way? > >When I had my biopsy 8 years ago, I was admitted automatically to a hospital >room, in bed for 24 hours. As far as I know, they have to monitor the >patient's blood pressure and hematocrit to make sure there is no internal >bleeding (which is a separate issue than any blood in the urine). I guess >they must be getting pretty confidant with this procedure. I don't see how >age would enter into it, because bleeding has nothing to do with age. > >Let us know how it goes Vik, and good luck. > >Pierre > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 I also went home after 6 hours, but that was because the learner consultant didn't leave any instructions. As I had someone to look after me, and there was no blood in my urine the nurses let me go after the house doctor said it was ok (and I was glad to). Having said that I am by no means confident in this learners abilities. He thinks the internet is stupid! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Wish I'd known about you guys before I had my biopsy. I left the hospital with no care instructions and was back at work a day later. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Well so far that's three on the list who were out after 6 hours. I guess it must be part of the fast-in fast-out day surgery trend that is going on everywhere. A few years ago I had my gallbladder out laparoscopically. Was in at 9 and out by 4 pm, despite still bleeding from the incisions. When I had my kidney biopsy, I had no bleeding whatsoever, not even in urine, and they still kept me over 24 hours. But that was 8 years ago. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > I also went home after 6 hours, but that was because the learner consultant > didn't leave any instructions. As I had someone to look after me, and there > was no blood in my urine the nurses let me go after the house doctor said it > was ok (and I was glad to). Having said that I am by no means confident in > this learners abilities. He thinks the internet is stupid! > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 One thing you're not supposed to do after the biopsy is any jumping up and down, but I guess few people would feel like doing that anyway Pierre RE: kidney biopsy > Wish I'd known about you guys before I had my biopsy. I left the hospital > with no care instructions and was back at work a day later. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Well no, not jumping. I was quite surprised at how little I hurt after the procedure. Mind you I got wumped by someone's back pack and swore a fair bit over that! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 I also had virtually no pain at all afterwards. The unpleasant part was the long needle tube being pushed around in there, but it was kind of fun being able to actually see it on the monitor. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > Well no, not jumping. I was quite surprised at how little I hurt after the > procedure. Mind you I got wumped by someone's back pack and swore a fair > bit over that! > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My registrar had the monitor turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think I would have watched anyway. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Hey Pierre Am I the only one who was given a sedative!!! This knocked me out for the entire procedure, I didn't get to see a thing, I remember my Neph saying he was going to biopsy the left kidney, and I said why when the pain was in the right one....silly me didn't realise that IGAN is in both kidneys if you have it!!!! However he did the biopsy on the right one in the end, and on hindsight now I wish it had been the left, given the trouble I have had with the right!!!! Anyway when I came to it was all over.....would have been fascinated to see it performed on the scanner. Trust me huh!!! Best wishes Re: kidney biopsy I also had virtually no pain at all afterwards. The unpleasant part was the long needle tube being pushed around in there, but it was kind of fun being able to actually see it on the monitor. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > Well no, not jumping. I was quite surprised at how little I hurt after the > procedure. Mind you I got wumped by someone's back pack and swore a fair > bit over that! > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Yeah. It doesn't actually hurt as such, but it's just a " creepy " feeling. When you can see the monitor, you actually see the radiologist pushing that needle in through the muscle tissues and into an outline of the kidney -- and I hated it when the " gun " went off. In my case, I think it took five tries at least to get a good sample. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My registrar had the monitor > turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think I would have watched > anyway. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Pierre, the gun sounds revolting. I am glad I missed that bit but I did feel a kind of snipping thing. I could feel him poking about with the needles which was bad enough. I half liked the sliding about feeling of the kidneys settling again after though. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 All I can say then, is I am glad I was asleep !!!!!! I would have surely had a wobbly watching the needle. Best wishes Re: kidney biopsy Yeah. It doesn't actually hurt as such, but it's just a " creepy " feeling. When you can see the monitor, you actually see the radiologist pushing that needle in through the muscle tissues and into an outline of the kidney -- and I hated it when the " gun " went off. In my case, I think it took five tries at least to get a good sample. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My registrar had the monitor > turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think I would have watched > anyway. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Not me! Wide awake. No sedative of any kind. All they did was freeze the surface of the skin somehow (like when you have a tooth filled). I was laying down on my right side, with the radiologist behind me, and the monitor in front, where we could both see it. Just like watching TV. It's not a gory enough procedure to be on the Learning Channel's " Operation " show, though. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > > > > Well no, not jumping. I was quite surprised at how little I hurt after > the > > procedure. Mind you I got wumped by someone's back pack and swore a fair > > bit over that! > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Well , you certainly didn't get the full experience. You can't imagine how hard they have to push to get that long tube-like needle inserted all the way through to the kidney. And they sort of have to change course and forcibly redirect it so it ends up in the right place. It's hard to explain the feeling. Maybe you should have it done over again Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > > > > The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My registrar had the monitor > > turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think I would have watched > > anyway. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Did anyone have two samples taken? They told me that they did 2 biopsy procedures. Why would they need to do 2? I still can see where they did it. Robyn --- Pierre L wrote: > Well , you certainly didn't get the full > experience. You can't imagine > how hard they have to push to get that long > tube-like needle inserted all > the way through to the kidney. And they sort of have > to change course and > forcibly redirect it so it ends up in the right > place. It's hard to explain > the feeling. Maybe you should have it done over > again > Pierre > > Re: kidney biopsy > > > > > > > The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My > registrar had the > monitor > > > turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think > I would have watched > > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail > at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Ummmmmmmmmmmm I think I would like to pass on that one..........wouldn't it be a nightmare if the second one came back negative!!!!! Well stranger things have happened LOL. Definitely glad I was out of it!! Ta Ta Re: kidney biopsy Well , you certainly didn't get the full experience. You can't imagine how hard they have to push to get that long tube-like needle inserted all the way through to the kidney. And they sort of have to change course and forcibly redirect it so it ends up in the right place. It's hard to explain the feeling. Maybe you should have it done over again Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > > > > The needle part was pretty gross wasn't it? My registrar had the monitor > > turned away so I couldn't see, but I don't think I would have watched > > anyway. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 They often take more than one sample (but it's from the same needle insertion). As I said in another post, they took five when I had my bx. The way it happened with mine is that the radiologist (yes, it was done by a radiologist in my case) would take one sample with the pistol-grip device (which, I might add, he was using for the very first time on a live patient -- it was a new thing at the time), and then the sample would go across the hall to a small lab where I think a pathologist would look at it and see if it was an acceptable sample. It would come back negative, and the radiologist would get another one. They have to get a big enough sample, and it has to be from the right part of the kidney so they can see what's really going on in there. It doesn't always work the first time. Hopefully, the doctor who did mine is better at it by now, but I was living in an out-of-the-way little city back then. There was also no qualified pathologist to do the actual diagnosis, so it had to be sent away. It took six weeks to get the results. But as I said, that was 8 years ago. Pierre Re: kidney biopsy > Did anyone have two samples taken? They told me that > they did 2 biopsy procedures. Why would they need to > do 2? I still can see where they did it. > Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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